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mircea_popescu: the fundamental flaw in your earlier mental process, which is periodically discussed in the logs, is that you try to take trust as an objective. trust isn't an objective, the reason i trust you is because I TRUST YOU, not because deedbot says i do. and the ONLY use of the knowledge that i trust you is that you can ask me about you. nothing else.
asciilifeform: !~later tell Framedragger do you perchance remember where in the logs i posted phuctor's key parser ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: dun seem to be in the logs
asciilifeform: mod6 recently ran into exact same issue, but for some reason i can't turn it up in the log
phf: i believe that's already been propose in the log
mircea_popescu: consider the more obvious / discussed in the logs case of "nuclear war preparedness". if you model the us cca 1960 as the existence of two tribes, type a which didn't believe there's imminent risk of nuclear winter and type b which did believe there's imminent risk of nuclear winter, the fact that type b doctrine included "no need to separate from type a, we can just have some shit bolted on" allows random population member X
shinohai: Apparently you've been around lurking a while, I see your name in the logs a couple of times
asciilifeform: everything appears in the logz.
IamAGirlsoInever: Do spam posts get defenstrated or will they appear in the logs?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661612 << depends. a pig sty is no one's idea of a good time (well, with exceptions i think we have illustrated in the logs) ; but something like your own orchard is very strictly speaking land improvement, about same value as a pool (larger footprint though). they were used as such by the romans in their estate retreats, there's extant manuals, this is a well documented concept. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: chick has a skype, AND a tox thing (it's in the logs) AND a "ricochet" item which i never saw before but seems to make some tall claims.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 16:57 asciilifeform: btw i will also put down in the log, one very simple possible algorithm for a 'txidx-fs' :
mircea_popescu: hm, apparently i never did link it. not in the log at any rate. here : http://www.collarspace.com/personals/v/1927835/details.htm
mircea_popescu: ie, mentioned in the logs, google knows them.
hanbot: diana_coman i got myself up to date just to quote my last problem with the character in the logs, ha. thanks for asking, and i'll see to it this week for sure. meatland has been fairly crazy these past months, i'd love to have a software problem (she said naively).
mircea_popescu: nevermind that if mp does the accounting then the accounting is done and if he does not IT IS NOT DONE!!! no matter fucking what! what was the response to mp showing up in 2012 and showing the tardstalk crowd how to do the accountin g ? they didn't start doing accounting, they STOPPED it altogether. no more reports now, were all the rage back then but now it's no longer "something new to say", as discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: well it was sort-of in the logs, at least in general, but it's still a very cool idea very much needed. scriba-based provisioning or what ?
mircea_popescu: i keep putting these small charge footmines in the logs you dutifully scoop them up.
shinohai: haha I was searching for that tidbit in the logs asciilifeform, thought you had said this previously.
mircea_popescu: eh, i dun specifically care. just leaving it in the log for the next time usg goes "oh usg.twitter has 4398573498759834795 users"
asciilifeform: thread is in the logs.
asciilifeform: the 'pgp oddities' is in the logz, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-10-28#900083 ☝︎
asciilifeform: this was in the logs
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: well is it in the logs or not?
Framedragger: ^ re above, last noob note, so [citing HN so grain of salt, etc.] this one gene (Cas9) has two functions: locating a dna sequence matching given chunk of rna, and cutting dna at that location. this substr() and insert_at_location().. together with some other genes it probably makes the whole thing turing complete. (~known, but particular demonstrations are interesting.) (also probably in the logs heh.)
asciilifeform: pretty sure it was in the logs.
mircea_popescu: https://www.thelocal.at/20170128/hotel-ransomed-by-hackers-as-guests-locked-in-rooms << was this in the logs btw ?
mircea_popescu: was that wonder in the logs ?
mircea_popescu: ah in the logs, mkay nm.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you have a macturd in the logz link in latest qntra
CompanionCube: ben_vulpes: greetings. I saw you mention me in the logs.
mp_en_viaje: it shouldn't be dribbled in the log.
asciilifeform: for instance, it is a good habit to search for a topic in the logs, prior to asking after it.
TomServo: Didn't see mention in the logs.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm thinking of the document ben_vulpes dropped in the logs, which iirc runs on the greenarrays chip.
gabriel_laddel_p: There was a software defined fourth NIC dropped in the logs that is pretty well documented.
asciilifeform: most of it is described, in painful detail, in the logs.
doppler: I have enjoyed the content that I have read in the logs over some months and watched scroll by as I idled here the past few days
asciilifeform: thing is entirely summarized in the log.
asciilifeform: i am actually rather fond of my vps hoster, nfs co (discussed in the logs at least twice, one of which was the time mircea_popescu wrote to them 'why not bitcoin?' and they answered 'bitcoin is a snore', he then barfed)
mircea_popescu: well ... it's been in the logs, so it works nao.
asciilifeform: is in the logs somewhere..
davout: as mentioned a few lines earlier in the log
mircea_popescu: this is periodically discussed in the logs, but i suppose pretty out there to grok.
mircea_popescu: plenty of examples scattered in the logs, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: tis been in the logs a few tiems.
asciilifeform: trinque: was this in the logs ?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: 'isolation' in the sense you picture it, would be a useful thing if it actually worked. items like, e.g., vmware, come close, but still no cigar (you can leak bits via cache skulduggery, as discussed every six months or so in the log for past 3+ yrs, and various other ways)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 16:57 asciilifeform: btw i will also put down in the log, one very simple possible algorithm for a 'txidx-fs' :
phf: i would very much like to start a clandestine operation called "the whisperers", but since it's not in the logs, someone else will have to do it
a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:24 Framedragger: while at it, and i'm guessing it's in the logs.., i wonder when was the last time some tried to come up with an approximation what the costs to get to >50% network hashing power would be
Framedragger: while at it, and i'm guessing it's in the logs.., i wonder when was the last time some tried to come up with an approximation what the costs to get to >50% network hashing power would be ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw i will also put down in the log, one very simple possible algorithm for a 'txidx-fs' : ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: let's put down in the log, what exactly ye olde bdb does, that eats 99+% of trb's wall clock:
mod6: <+trinque> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-05#1008972 << mod6, is that why this patch did not make it in? << i don't think it was because of any such wedge. i think we held off because it was proposed that there might have been a better way to handle that through configuration files. it's all in the logs if you look in around the time that email was sent; december of '14. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it's such a big deal, i included all sorts of strange in the logs, what of it ?
mircea_popescu: it'd be tremendously helpful for instance if the trb node had found it within its good graces TO FUCKING PUT TIMESTAMPS IN THE LOG.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. the further you go prng-away from the "quote the nth line in the log", the closer you getr to "my solution to mining is mining+mining"
mircea_popescu: in the logs you hide behind the statues.
gabriel_laddel_p: what I think: if someone has js turned on in their browser, it's because they want js. If turned off, they don't want it. I, at least, want an-accurate-as-possible archive of whatever shows up in the logs, including arbitrary files, videos etc.
gabriel_laddel_p: are there any links in the logs that need special treatment for archival? Current list: download youtube videos & pdfs.
mircea_popescu: the "real" spinner, which consists of turning the soil into dust to produce chinese real estate ; this is "farming" and "real estate development" and "mining" and etcetera. such as the soy production in argentina, now and again lulzed at in the logs. dudes totally gutted this place.
thestringpuller: i can't find the IP in the logs
asciilifeform: (what's the attack mode of a fleanode box, at any rate, while we're on the subj..? selectively vanishes messages ? inserts crapola ? as i see it, this will show up in the logtrons. and even if not, we have ways of reaching one another and pointing out the fact)
shinohai smiles seeing oglafbot in the logs again .....
Reuel: i see it ties into bitcoin in the log but
Reuel: Not sure whether I missed some more talk earlier, disconnected a few times, but I'll read up in the logs. Going to mull over the no free money thing a bit.
mircea_popescu: because why. not like it's not in the logs that they dun werk.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-23 22:11 danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244
danielpbarron: bb and I discussed this in the log already http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-20#1378244 ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: linked in the logs.
mircea_popescu: phf if you feel like it, you can do a weekly lisp class by appointment, look in the log when there's usually holes and intersect with your schedule and there you go.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: am I allowed to respond to people who reference me in the logs?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-10 00:44 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well gotta keep the record of excellence in the log so we can point gabriel to a minimum viable residence
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well gotta keep the record of excellence in the log so we can point gabriel to a minimum viable residence ☟︎
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it was in the logs
a111: Logged on 2017-01-08 13:54 mircea_popescu: and the other thing : that entire "it is unclear whether people aiming to make an artificial friend have seriously considered the much cheaper, ordinary kind" which i can't fucking find in the log for some reason goes A LOT deeper than generally realised. it's not "oh, i'm not discussing ai so it's not about me". yes, IT IS about you. if the software you're contemplating aims to take fifty hours of engineer work to replace fi
mircea_popescu: and the other thing : that entire "it is unclear whether people aiming to make an artificial friend have seriously considered the much cheaper, ordinary kind" which i can't fucking find in the log for some reason goes A LOT deeper than generally realised. it's not "oh, i'm not discussing ai so it's not about me". yes, IT IS about you. if the software you're contemplating aims to take fifty hours of engineer work to replace fi ☟︎
mircea_popescu: a) alf wrote a first version of phuctor, which wasn't very good. this is excusable in that it was a first version, and altogether irrelevant ; b) alf's version being not very good was accidentally exposed through ordinary course of business ; c) alf got very butthurt at this circumstance, and kept whining about it in the logs ; d) having had enough of the whine at some later point, i presented him with the choice of either fi
gabriel_laddel_p: adlai: ^ another thing you can do. The patch to fix CL-FTP is in the logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's in the logs.
asciilifeform: iirc this is in the logz somewhere, and uninspiring
mircea_popescu: as exemplified in the logs i have at least one example of guy learning to program on eulora ; and 0 examples in unity.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger nah, it's in the logs, have an auto dld of links
phf: asciilifeform: oddly enough that's not in the log. perhaps if you upload your logs i can slice them in..
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-02-02#-142550 , http://btcbase.org/log/2013-02-02#-142536 << lel, there must be a missing piece, did i really appear in the log before saying anything ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: when we discuss in the logs, it can be many things, but not formal definition.
asciilifeform: formal definitions don't live in the logs
trinque: were they not in the logs?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586383 << http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/XDTr8/?raw=true ; note that i use the wrong command `getmempool' (line 8587), and that my rpc command of `getmemorypool' doesn't show up at all in the log, but some thirty seconds after the bogus `getmempool' the blackhole symptoms kick in ☝︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: this is in the logs
a111: Logged on 2016-12-13 15:53 mircea_popescu: ^ that part gotta be in the logs.
mircea_popescu: ^ that part gotta be in the logs. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and wait till you get in the log to the OTHER inbandism idiocy of the day
mircea_popescu: see http://trilema.com/2016/memoranda-and-shit-like-1800s-high-diplomacy/ re the first point, but yes plenty other examples scattered in the logs ; see http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-11-29.log.html#t13:20:08 re the later - the reason the contract is not lucrative is because cft is expected to cost 180% in the future because "consensus"-ed. though in fairness the supplies are ever dubious in practice etc - but there's system st
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's in the log.
mircea_popescu: (but there is also the case of the dutch raid when they literally burned down london - except in a strange case of premonitory japanese misbehaviour, failed to bomb the right thing. this is in the logs.)
mircea_popescu: or alternatively read the various discussions in the log and mailing list re trb reform.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 19:52 danielpbarron: i thought this was already done in the log : suppose i give +5 one day and -10 the next? without the latter it would appear i trust the guy -- WITH SIGNATURE!!!
trinque: if ratings are ephemeral, seems logs must also be. relevant here that we tend to rate in the logs.