trinque: wicked space savings, bro.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 23:21 asciilifeform: in other lulzies,
https://archive.is/BQ2cK >> 'University Police conducted a search of the building, which yielded no additional posters ... The situation is being investigated as a hate bias incident, she added, encouraging anyone with more information to contact University Police.'
mircea_popescu: "along with images of European sculptures of white men." << welcome to the empire of ignoramuses.
mircea_popescu: i suppose one shouldn't ask what color scipio had anywhere near a marble bust of same amirite.
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a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 23:35 ben_vulpes: ixodes pacificus may someday be a carrier for babiosis
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 01:28 asciilifeform: in other lulz, for everyone who 'enjoyed' shitoshi's 'varints' -- the retardation apparently is endemic, and even has named!!111 'standards' complete with shitlang demo suites:
http://msgpack.org shinohai wonders if mircea_popescu broke the CompanionCube with that Trilema article .....
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 20:27 CompanionCube reads
mircea_popescu: im not even discussing the substance of his claim. so far we're at the pre-hearing arguments where he learns how to make a cogent statement in the first place.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, my mom told me i was born with the god-given ability to make cogent arguments" "that;s probably why she fucks drunks, too."
shinohai: ./vdiff trilemalogs blinklight.io
mircea_popescu: lmao 310 + 310 digit factors. this'd be a 2kb key i gather ?
mircea_popescu: kinda nice when it just gives away the whole key like that.
mircea_popescu vaguely recalls some "pirate party" associated dorks producing lame "oh, can't factor a key anyway" verbiage cca 2015
☟︎ mircea_popescu: to think that, much like "tor", those passed for the "forefront of internets" at some point, a decade prior.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so they can make .io websites under dorky pseudonyms and expect medium tards to pick them up ?
mircea_popescu: the big secret re rape is that it's a happy occasion. the fundamental state is two bored people watching tv, too lazy for even the copacetic nonsense they call proper. let alone any kind of rape.
mircea_popescu: the only adequate epitaph on the tombstones of well over 90% of "civilised world" females the past few centuries is "here lies jane, whom nobody could suymmon the interest to ever rape."
mircea_popescu: and the trump news totally dried out ;/ nothing but rehashed butthurt and libertard wishful thinking.
mircea_popescu: last i heard, idiot argentine "dreamer" was detained and deported.
mircea_popescu: which is kinda the point here. yes, if you read the libertard fake news they're like all victorious and shit, hillary is practically president.
trinque: hell obama might go down as nixon 2.0 at this point.
mircea_popescu: in general, the pretense that anything in the us can limit the presidential administration was all but abandoned with bush
mircea_popescu: dude got the government into torture. outside of that... really, what else, what more ? once that's on the table everything else's peanuts.
trinque: rotating dictatorship can be perilous for previous dictators
phf: there's a handful of american "restaurants" i've never been to, applebees is one of them. but the list is getting smaller with time, recently i got to experience "cracker barrel"
phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food.
☟︎ trinque: prolly same phood distributor behind all
trinque: iirc "US Foods" is pretty common.
trinque: like it could be called anything else.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'sysco' -- major supplier in east usa << Sysco, Carlisle, etc
lobbes: !!rate trinque 2 deedbot
lobbes: !!v B4A2A76A8AE99F34AC6E063962EE30F5C717435D9A2411B45BEEDA971ACA875A
deedbot: lobbes updated rating of trinque from 1 to 2 << deedbot
lobbes: danielpbarron, I'm thinkin' that even monthly billing for the thing is too frequent due to the small sums involved. Gonna just do it on a quarterly cycle
lobbes: hell, I'll probably just pay my Republican taxes with the first bitcent-bundles I collect
danielpbarron: neato, I opt for the copper payment method. i'm usually in town these days
lobbes: nice. I'll try and find ya tomorrow. I really got to set up my old craptop to just be connected to Eulora 24/7. Currently gotta boot into my winbloze side to get the game working -_-
lobbes: time for me to learn to gentoo already
lobbes: for some reason couldn't get it working with Debian, but probably something I fucked somewhere. meh
danielpbarron: learning how to gentoo is like learning how to linux 10 years ago, which fortunately I did then. Not much has changed except that all the other distros went for more automation which seems to have rendered them pointless for what linux was supposed to be about in the first place
diana_coman: lobbes, I'll gladly pay for the auction services in Eulora; Foxy's currently in a days-long craft so will have to wait for that to finish first though
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 03:13 phf: as far i understand they are all essentially the same, in that they don't actually serve food.
mircea_popescu: (top keks : sysco tried to buy us foods (2nd in the field) a few years ago, it came out the merger'd have controlled 75% of the us food supply)
mircea_popescu: lobbes you ever got in game yet ? till trinque 's payment thing is live that's the only way
deedbot: saifedean voiced for 30 minutes.
saifedean: more like a late sunday morning, with a baby!
saifedean: I'm writing a book explaining the concept of sound money to normies and how bitcoin will restore it
saifedean: no, but I wouldn't want that before it's done.Have a few connections to publishers and will ship it off to them when done
mircea_popescu: not to piss on your parade, but how did you go from "unsolicited manuscript" to "good tidings" ?
saifedean: And even without it, I'm happy to self-publish
saifedean: well, not to blow my book's horn, but this isn't some waiter's novel written out between shifts. I've put a ton of good work into it
saifedean: I'm sure you agree it's about time someone wrote something about bitcoin beyond the 'muh cheap latte processing fees'
saifedean: (also, I've got a good few names happy to blurb it and hawk it to publishers)
saifedean: If any of you good folk would like to get a sneak peak at the first draft, I'd appreciate the feedback
diana_coman: saifedean WHAT makes you an expert on the topic?
saifedean: I guess you'll have to read it and judge for yourself. In any case the topic isn't bitcoin per se, it's mostly about sound money, and how bitcoin is the digital solution to this perplexing age old problem that has fucked humanity eternally
diana_coman: that's a very poor answer; people's time is a scarce resource
saifedean: it's a good answer when you consider that I have the bullshit mainstream credentials most cattle imagine would qualify one to opine on this topic, and that I did not mention that to answer your question because I know cattle credentials don't mean shit.
diana_coman: in other unrelated or possibly related happenings, my 4 year old got a book about the iss (int'l space station); he got quite obsessed with it for a week so now he knows it inside out; this morning he came with a construction made out of lego pieces and informs me: THIS is IIISSSIII!
diana_coman: saifedean do you have the work and results that mean something? if yes - link; if no, no
saifedean: and I'm happy to send you the work in progress first draft, but don't want to publish online yet
diana_coman: might mention that I was a post-doc at some point in life
☟︎ saifedean: and congratulations for getting out!
diana_coman: no need to: it thoroughly disabused me of the naive belief that academia is actually worthwhile aka truly doing research (in some 1% cases it might still be doing it, but mostly dieing out)
saifedean: agreed entirely, and the only thing that will kill this worthless zombie is sound money cutting off the bezzle spigots
deedbot: saifedean voiced for 30 minutes.
saifedean: sounds nice in principle except that you can't actually do anything with "blockchain technology" other than bitcoin
saifedean: other than bitcoin-envy, there's absolutely no reason for anyone to use "blockchain technology" for anything
diana_coman: I didn't mean to get involved and do something useful with "blockchain technology"; I meant at the very least running a node, exploring the network
diana_coman: the links you sent are essentially bla-bla; not even theory since there isn't even some clear methodology one could evaluate, nor clear supporting arguments to the claims; I won't waste any more time on it
saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
☟︎☟︎ saifedean: this is bezzle-funded ritualism, meant to create an aura of prestige around bezzle-funded bullshit "science"
saifedean: academic disciplines as we know them have degenerated into rituals for exclusivity, not communicating ideas. these papers have been quite helpful to disabuse a lot of people of the retarded notions that altcoins and "blockchain technology" are going to revolutionize all teh thingz
saifedean: in any case, these only inform the last couple of chapters of the book. the rest is mostly economic history and austrian economics on sound money and its perks & fiat money and its disasters
diana_coman: lolz @ ritualism; I ask for practical, hands-on experience that would give him something to say on the topic and he points me to bla-bla; I point out it is bla-bla unsupported and without any concern to even allow people to verify it should they be inclined to do so and he claims it's rituals I'm asking for
diana_coman: !!rate saifedean -1 bla-bla peddler full of air and nothing much besides it.
☟︎ deedbot: saifedean is not registered in WoT.
diana_coman: it seems that academia meanwhile went even faster downhill than I thought possible; at this rate it will soon produce colouring books and "educate" people on how pencils are not even good for much besides making marks on paper (for which one can use their hands anyway! there's one chapter on that plus 10 on history of mark-making and its perks)
☟︎ shinohai: Such entertaining logz this morning, courtesy of diana_coman ! >.>
shinohai: tfw peer review requires you to get out the crayons ....
trinque savors the irony re: "rituals for exclusivity"
trinque: !!gettrust deedbot trinque
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a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 08:20 saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
shinohai: He replied to me on twitter: "the groupthink, navel-gazing & ritualism can be a little overdone!" ( Asking one to cite sources = ritualism ? )
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 09:30 diana_coman: !!rate saifedean -1 bla-bla peddler full of air and nothing much besides it.
shinohai: I sometimes read his stuff, but he is very arrogant for someone that simply parrots existing works.
mircea_popescu: arrogance is a defense mechanism in sexually frustrated males.
shinohai: Not like my timeline isn't full of all sorts of things that could help with that. :)
Framedragger: (well he did retire in his 20s by doing trading and also correctly shorting for the 2008 meltdown)
Framedragger: maybe this is an instance of turning $1b into $1m, tho
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 08:20 saifedean: i see the postdoc years have taken their toll. Academics are incapable of actually thinking of anything other than rituals of methodology
jhvh1: shinohai: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 09:36 diana_coman: it seems that academia meanwhile went even faster downhill than I thought possible; at this rate it will soon produce colouring books and "educate" people on how pencils are not even good for much besides making marks on paper (for which one can use their hands anyway! there's one chapter on that plus 10 on history of mark-making and its perks)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 17:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he "will spend significant time" to find... "Research" tasks adequate to that fuckdolls "level" yet he can't be bothered to figure out how deedbot works ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635906 << lebanese iirc expat ; did some research work in the us. not actually stupid but altogether lazy and possessed of a very inflated sense of self-worth and self-importance (it seems to rub off on foreigners faster than on locals, this typical ustardism. i guess it would be because the immigrants self-select for sensitivity to the infection).
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 14:48 asciilifeform: the basic q for him, per diana_coman earlier, 'who the hell ~are~ you, to ~speak~'
mircea_popescu: as far as the forum is concerned, his latest foray was some very overreactive bs triggered by my refusal to take rice out of my sushi or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's hard out there for a pimp, yo, when he trynna make da mony fo da rent.
mircea_popescu: (in other words : males tend to put up all sorts of inept acts because, literally, manhood is a practical impossibility.)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635912 << i don't personally find taleb objectionable. this position my be significantly bolstered by my disinclination to actually read him. anyway -- i suspect it might be a case of anaphylaxis. you can't stand specific antigens which he expresses mostly to protect himself from the idiot soup he bathes in, the twitter world etc.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 14:54 asciilifeform: also fwiw i can't stand taleb for exactly same reason
mircea_popescu: very similar reaction in a certain sort of mousy librarian brain (like for eg the population of something awful) wrt yours truly.
mircea_popescu: if it's indeed the case that taleb is your orlov, i'll comment that i'm missing out on less than you are.
mircea_popescu: because taleb is no mark cuban (the poster child of "pro wrestlert accidentally sold pair of used undies for 5bn, now thinks self businessman in spite of mountain of evidence to the contrary accumulated over the decades)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 15:18 Framedragger: maybe this is an instance of turning $1b into $1m, tho
mircea_popescu: if for nothing else, because if followed along it ends up favouring bos over panthera
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's two kinds of animals, at the basics. those who "make something with own chloroplasts" ie, algae, plants etc ; and then those who eat them.
mircea_popescu: the problem is the rope frays at the other end : bama dillert's father, who plows, does not appear in any james hones novels ; bama dillert himself, who figures if a man's gonna gamble anyway, might as well do it without plowing, does.
mircea_popescu: because the latter have to move, and consequently must be graceful and etcetera.
jhvh1: Hello thorntron. Who is your daddy and what does he do?
mircea_popescu: well worship is a complex topic. for one thing, why'd you worship anything that dun fuck you.
mircea_popescu: until they are replicated, all successes can't be replicated.
mircea_popescu: and bitcoin replication isn't the best of topics for this theory anyway.
mircea_popescu: sadly there isn't such a thing as "brilliant trader" in nature anymore than there is "masked crime figther wearing a cape".
mircea_popescu: my positive view comes from specific things, such as take the recent article of his that was discussed here : his references are good.
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care re "arrogance" or whatever other emotional manipulation in the text. i can read the barely literate productions of poorly washed 5th century jews figuring themselves "god". what's taleb gonna do to max my dosimeter.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as far as the forum is concerned, his latest foray was some very overreactive bs triggered by my refusal to take rice out of my sushi or somesuch. << AHA
mircea_popescu: chronos, the god time, who devoured all his sons, was wounded by a diamond sickle borne by his own creation. it happens.
BingoBoingo: saifedean of Lebanon, expert who would not deedbot was cast out for the rice in his pork
mircea_popescu: the parts where he applies himself to other principles are quite good nevertheless.
Framedragger: "and have my esteemed pedigree tree"? isn't part of his (by now, tired, yes) point to the effect of the exact opposite? ("trust your biology, folklore, etc., they're better than experts telling you things"; "i won't give advice on $currency because i don't hold positions in $currency hence not exposed to the risk", so on)
Framedragger: or you mean that yet somehow his general spiel still mirrors some general faulty 'american' structure (difficult to prove/disprove this)
☟︎ Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^ (but i don't have a point to prove, just that i didn't see much to blame there, however i could just be my usual naive)
shinohai: lol @ homeless crackhead being given $200`000 bail for setting the freeway fire.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i read that as "the system has decided the value to it of this $random is 200k."
shinohai: Doubt even the shittiest back-alley clinic in Guatemala would pay 10% of that for dudes kidney.
shinohai: ( Just give him some laced coke and take for phree )
shinohai: Lulzy morning when some smacktard on twitter sends one of my girls a .uue file. When that didn't work, sent files as a .zip in email.
mircea_popescu: i imagine 50% of rats exist so random wankers can watch the girl in 8a work as a camho without having to pay for the "credits"
mircea_popescu: she wouldn't mind doing it in person, but the dude sure as fuck ain't gonna ask her.
shinohai refuses to let skiddies cut in on his commission .....
jurov: BingoBoingo: i have a comment on qntra monthly report, it awaits moderation
jurov: I will wait with the shares till that is resolved.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 16:31 Framedragger: or you mean that yet somehow his general spiel still mirrors some general faulty 'american' structure (difficult to prove/disprove this)
Framedragger: i think i see what you mean. i'm not convinced he's actually trying to teach just that, but fair enough.
mircea_popescu: the chief problem with the barriers is that they're after the fact.
mircea_popescu: "first of all there appeared the idiots, then next transport landed some thieves. as all women were already ladies a platoon of whores was parachuted from the sky. the danger being real the idiots spontaneously invented the first courthouse."
mircea_popescu: the only objection is that a happy life is not actually impossible.
mircea_popescu wonders if asciilifeform has 10,000,001 on a hotkey, and if so, which it is
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, yest went with hanbot an' coupla locals to this "sports bar" where they run girl's footsketball (i have nfi, small indoor court, nice asses, ball kicking) and karaoke.
mircea_popescu: she did "don't take your guns to town", which was teh only english thing done, and apparently was a challenge to download etc, but the dj was very proud to manage eventually.
mircea_popescu: everyone was very... living up to the occasion of the sacred language blessing their venue. then i explained what the lyrics said, and i think they were a little aghast
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean he shoots the kid ?! but we're doing spanish romantic bs all day, love you eternally etc!"
danielpbarron: ooo you do karaoke!? i do that several times a week
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron not personally ; i'm just promiscuous, will go anywhere alcohol is served.
danielpbarron: i also offend locals. my favorite things to sing are the most violent rap like Eminem
danielpbarron: but i really confuse them because i also sing things like simon and garfunkel really well
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron they weren't offended in the slightest. i think the only proper way to describe tico mindset is "eagerly open minded".
mircea_popescu: "this shit makes no sense it's what they do other places mmkay."
mircea_popescu: anyway, my driver's crazy about karaoke. he admits he wanted to be a singer!
mircea_popescu: he also told me he's metrosexual, but upon inquiry it was established he merely misunderstood what that meant.
danielpbarron: people tell me i should do it professionally, but to me it's just a fun thing to do. i think it would not be fun if i tried to make money with it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron how would you do it professionally, they have contests or what ?
danielpbarron: you found a good venue of the dj is willing to download songs on the spot. my favorite place is a portugese bar where the guy will play from youtube if he doesn't have the song. that's the only way I can properly sing Lil Wayne -- find the instrumental version and read lyrics from my phone
mircea_popescu always imagined stuff like america got talent is the tail end of karaoke bars.
danielpbarron: idk, get hired by bars to sing all night or something
danielpbarron: yes that too. a few days ago someone was saying "oh you should be on america's got talent!" and i'm like "haha no way"
mircea_popescu: it being fundamentally an azn thing, i expect it works just like star wars etc. can be pro, but it means a certain thing.
danielpbarron: plus all karaoke djs tend to be a little weird in a way particular to that profession; i don't care to become like that
mod6: (my apologies for the late submission to the chamber.)
danielpbarron: i think it might be comparable to camwhores and ptsd. having their attention constantly split here and there trying to appease everyone
mod6: mircea_popescu: haha
mircea_popescu had camwhoring on "list of things girl must do" extremely briefly. went right the fuck out, it's a scandalous abuse of the human body to compare with, eg, the "sulphur mine children".
danielpbarron: might have been a trilema article, i don't recall exactly
shinohai: ^ /me read that article and almost decided against all this poppycock
mircea_popescu: but i meant re the sulphur mine boys of eg southern italy 19th century.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 07:26 diana_coman: lobbes, I'll gladly pay for the auction services in Eulora; Foxy's currently in a days-long craft so will have to wait for that to finish first though
BingoBoingo: My bad, total shares figure was correct, allocation was not.
jurov: Shares pushed. davout: you know how to get your s.qntr?
mircea_popescu: anyway, only interesting under the angle of "idiot empire raided open source forum, pretends to have "discovered" things and to "give credits" to itself etc."
phf: i suspect saifedean is pitching various audiences to create a buzz for his upcoming book, because the way he opened seemed like a cold call. "normies" "bezzle this bezzle that" every phrase felt like it was lifted from a "wake up sheeple" video with that matrix soundtrack
☟︎ phf: this is not the right audience for that sort of club footed approach, but i'm sure he'll get a good response on bitcointalk or whatever
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt it. the time for unsolicited manuscripts was sometime in between the summer of 90something and the autumn of the same 90something. nobody can tell you precisely when, but in any case "i made a book" is precisely the same as "i made a used condom"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "you mean, with a girl ?" "no, by myself. but it'll get all the girls interested! after all my used condom maker works!!11"
mircea_popescu: anyway. such is the high cost of harboring delusions of self-determination.
phf: right, i'm trying to discern some kind of strategy that he's employing, but there might just be none
mircea_popescu: well, if by strategy you mean, attempt to adequate to the environment, i'd say none. if you mean "i am saifadean hear me roar" then sure, he's trying to matter as he is rather than as he'd matter.
mircea_popescu: "i want a guy who will love me for me" but in the male color scheme, as it were.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-11 08:48 saifedean: really, before you dismiss paleo, just try eliminating grains from your body for 2 weeks and see what it does to you. every single person i know who's done it has changed their life entirely.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole "i write books" aspirational occupation is a macula of dumb just all of itself. i keep mentioning tucker max because he tried (and claimed to succeed) and utterly failed at the thing.
phf: i somehow doubt he spent that time reading the logs.
mircea_popescu: it's a joke, new york times best seller = not enough to pay for a night in a hotel.
mircea_popescu: phf evidently not. he wasted a coupla years of his life, now in 2017 is in same position as he was in 2014. but it's ok, he's unwilling to review this, so he'll die as he lived.
mircea_popescu: "selling" 1k copies of a book is a) a fine way to spend a thousand hours of your time to earn about a hundred dollars and b) sufficient of an achievement to make you a "best selling author" and allow you to "lord it over" the utter fucktards populating that particular hobbist space.
mircea_popescu: because that's what it is. writing books is exactly like playing with rv boats. "oh, you won the milwaukee regional finals in 2016 ? WOW!!11 where do i throw my panties!"
phf: the incentives seem inside out. it's not "i have something to say that's not otherwise been said" it's "i'm going to say something!"
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
phf: sitting down to "write the great american novel" as a the pure case of that
shinohai bets he would likely make more writing for Qntra instead ...
danielpbarron: in tucker max's defense, his are the only books i have ever purchased in "e"lectronic form. and I did get a kick out of them. But that was before I discovered trilema so who knows how they'd read to me if i tried again