ben_vulpes 's asciilifeform-ulator confirmed operational
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mircea_popescu: 9931...5093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to all of mexico!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 9931...5093 divides RSA Moduli belonging to all of mexico! << But is the RSA moduli warm letting you know it just emerged from the worm's ass?
BingoBoingo: Or did Mexico try the cocaine and toggle switch RNG idea and it turns out cocaine is deterministic
trinque: hey man, one windows license, one host key. that's comunidad
mircea_popescu: multiple servers!!!* (* terms and conditions apply. one wife for each soldier means everyone's fucking the same old rubber chicken)
☟︎ BingoBoingo: In other news, of the tomatoes installed this year, the vine which has put on the most size so far is the aptly named "Beefmaster" cultivar
BingoBoingo: "Police say more than $100,000 in trucks and lawn equipment was stolen Wednesday night or Thursday morning from a business in Caseyville. St. Clair County Sheriff’s Capt. Bruce Fleshren said a large section of fencing was cut, and gates were rammed by trucks at the business, Munie Green Care."
BingoBoingo: And still more regional weird: "Bronke explained that few people in the area have access to one or more of the substances found in Ellerbusch’s body. He implied that investigators from multiple counties are looking into where the teen may have received the substance or substances."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just a little bit of "consensus building" on the left.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 02:45 mircea_popescu: multiple servers!!!* (* terms and conditions apply. one wife for each soldier means everyone's fucking the same old rubber chicken)
mircea_popescu: one lulzy bit being that the gmx account is known-compromised since cca 2013.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cute little portal to the netherworld you got there
ben_vulpes: gotta brick those up before the flying ones start coming through
mircea_popescu: eh, i dun specifically care. just leaving it in the log for the next time usg goes "oh usg.twitter has 4398573498759834795 users"
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 21:50 pete_dushenski: and who the fuck wants old cessna ? guaranteed death trap.
davout: engines are regularly changed when their potential is up
davout: the only really significant categories, from a safety point of view, are single vs. multi engines
davout: i don't think it makes any difference from a safety pov
davout: also props can mean a piston engine, as well as a turbo-prop
pete_dushenski: davout: does one pilot v. two pilots matter as much as i suspect it does (ie. quite a lot) ?
davout: i don't think it does matter that much, there's usually two pilots because there's more buttons
davout: not really because of the need for a "backup pilot"
davout: yeah, i can't think of any multi-crew single piston engines
☟︎ davout: i think single engine turbo prop could be multi-crew
pete_dushenski: i guess i like my pilots like i like my kidneys. not 'rational' or 'efficient' but what can i say. then again, it's not like i'll be flying anything other than commerical for the forseeable future
davout: i was told that the risk of flying non-commercial single engines was roughly equivalent to motor-biking
pete_dushenski: o hey oilers come from behind. 4-3 in ot to lead series 3-2
davout: one casualty per ~25k flight hours
davout: usually the pilot being a derp
davout: flying into clouds, forgetting to switch the fuel tank selector to the full one, that kind of stuff
pete_dushenski: so flying as a passenger in a single engine, single pilot is like riding bitch on a bike. lol nothx!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 05:50 davout: yeah, i can't think of any multi-crew single piston engines
davout: multi crew means "must be operated by two pilots"
davout: it seems we have a different definition of "pilot"
davout: multi-pilot is a term of art
davout: asciilifeform: pretty much every commercial jet, and every turbo-prop must be operated by two pilots
davout: of course it doesn't drop
davout: one pilot can land it just fine, but he'll need ATC assistance to lighten the workload
davout: like priority over other aircraft for example
davout: the workload can get very important at times
davout: also having two pilots enable them to cross-check each other, which is pretty fucking important to not forget anything
davout: but with some help from ATC, a private pilot could land an A320
davout: push the correct knobs and the airplanr will just land itself in 0 visibility
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 12:27 asciilifeform: does 'multi-crew' means something else to davout ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 13:10 asciilifeform: so, pilot suddenly dies, machine is somewhere over atlantic. it drops immediately..?
mircea_popescu: gotta study this stuff alfie, it's one of the first, and to date one of the best, examples of process engineering.
mircea_popescu: (that's not actually correct - also reviewed in flight. fail the check and your itinerary changes from "to destination" to "to closest viable airport". conditions apply.)
davout: asciilifeform: yeah, you divert if such a thing happens
mircea_popescu: anyway. small planes (ie, single pilot) make emergency landings (ie, landing otherwise than in flight plan) for all sorts of reasons. chief among them bad weather -- the small shits have icing problems and are really dependent on atmosphere playing nice with the nutshell, and in the more responsible also the pilot deciding he's tireder than he thought.,
davout: one task of the pilots is to constantly be able to instantly answer "shit happens, where go?"
mircea_popescu: failure to do the later resulted in some pretty fucking spectacular fits of cfit back in the 60s.
mircea_popescu: and i thought they were trying to arrest the dude since day 0, what.
mircea_popescu: lol. this has nothing to do with him, it's simply a relfection of the fact that "worst baddest MR GOLDSTEIN" went from "Rapist" to "Russian Spy" since Trump cunt-punched rapist off the board.
mircea_popescu: this is very braindamaged, even for the usually stupid bureaucrat. if the guy did nothing then why is he sought ?
mod6: Update: eatblock now @ 353K+ blocks, into blk0017.
mod6: I'm also running ent/dh against 1.2Gb of collected fg entropy, but this time I did it with: `dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 of=fg1.fg4.bin`
mod6: will report out results here when it's complete :]
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 02:35 asciilifeform: 'From my conversations with Ubiquiti, I have found that they claimed that it's alright to refuse to provide source code to GPL-licensed software if "This decision was taken with the security of the users in mind". Furthermore, my conversations were endlessly delayed by the supposed necessity to forward my query to another, unnamed, team.' << now we can probably say what.
scriba: ssh banner of 38.96.45.231 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
Framedragger: meh, gcc wouldn't have caught it to begin with
shinohai: `clang` (noun) The sound your Apple phone might make as it is being pwnd.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: oh shit. i looked at snipped of code, thought, gcc wouldn't catch this, that's all. sorry.
a111: Logged on 2016-01-15 01:38 asciilifeform: 'OpenSSH 6.6 is the only version that is not affected, because it calls explicit_bzero() instead of memset() or bzero(). ..... older GCC versions do not remove the memset() or bzero() call made by buffer_free() or sshbuf_free(). GCC 5 and Clang/LLVM do, however, remove it.'
Framedragger: 'Dead Store Elimination' << new fancyterm learned from ^. heh
Framedragger: 'but why!!' such very optimise one function call omg.
Framedragger: yes, by now, goddammit this is just criminal and that's it.
mircea_popescu reviews with unmitigated sadness that the republican isp issue IS STILL NOT RESOLVED.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so fucking hard, this, picking up a business that can feed a herd of twelve when given. bejaysus.
mircea_popescu: it'd seem the usg terrorist organization has succeeded in african-americanizing the hosting business much like it did to the inner city ghettos : yes there exist youngsters who live outside of the reich. none of them survive into adulthood.
mircea_popescu: by the time any one shows signs of competence and possible maturation into systemic threat, they... disappear. to leave the room for yet another inept sixteen year old and his "crew" with "three years experience".
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-21#1646829 << i should review logs, but -- assuming we're talking about the same internet / ip aspce -- i've been sceptical of this. there's always an upstream that can cut you off, neh? if no upstream, you gotta somehow be tier 1 - how.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 16:59 mircea_popescu reviews with unmitigated sadness that the republican isp issue IS STILL NOT RESOLVED.
Framedragger: is true, but also a lotta labour hours put into failed project
mircea_popescu: republican isp = competent sysadmin who handles relationship with multiple dcs in terms of getting hardware installed and refuses any requests made under color of law by the terrorist organisation known as "the united states government". and publishes them.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if ANYONE, including EACH AND EVERY non-technical dude following around had half a brain, it'd be a business model for him also.
mircea_popescu: most people live their entire life out of less contribution than this.
mircea_popescu: and it would be out of the question doing business with nato-reich located dcs anyway, for basic moral reasons.
mircea_popescu: i'm not about to hire any convicted child rapists to run my kindergarten, shock and awe.
mircea_popescu: wouldja shut the fuck up with the wholly idiotic antiproductive noise ?
Framedragger: there are those isps in .ru which show the finger to usg, but (1) as was said here multiple times before, there is no 'bulletproof hosting'; and (2) i'd like to see what happens when someone starts serving content against .ru interests.
Framedragger: i agree that it'd be a good contribution, 'while it lasts'. maybe i'm too pessimistic, but i can't see how the 'refuses usg requests' lasts for any time after 'first request received'.
mircea_popescu: i want something like a dual or quad e-2650 say, with a coupla fuckgoats physically installed. i can't say "do this" in #trilema, in 2017.
mircea_popescu: this is not an acceptable state of affairs, and whatever stories about magics and assorted fairy tales has nothing to do with it.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i hear, and even have coupla bookmarks from recommendations should the opportunity require, heh. anyway good to know
mircea_popescu: Framedragger dude wouldja stop with the insane approach. you've watched me build things for years, hopefully. learned nothing from the process ?
mircea_popescu: just make a fucking isp, that's not run by a moron and consequently ahead of 90% of the pack.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: get the implicit friendly contracts from tmsr. game over.
mircea_popescu: i am well satisfied there is not going to be naturally occuring sanity, has to be generated in #trilema or not be had.
Framedragger: sealand (if as in a physical platform at sea) == fewer options for uplink == even more bad, in my mind
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i've heard you before and i hear you now. i just don't have much hope for extant internet. unreliable-low-bandwidth shortwave relay net almost seems like a longer term strategy here, no?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no grenade. it is a business, like giving away a ny restaurant. it will make a million or two over one's active life.
mircea_popescu: "wash the dishes" "hang on im designing an alien dish washer" "in the time you've been jacking off with the lolpics, other people ate out of washing dishes as professionals, you fucking tard you."
Framedragger: so what, the idea is to jump around DCs (i assumed low bar for calling self isp is at least getting an AS number, btw) while they're kicking you, and only do rental contracts short enough so that not too much cash gets burned.
mircea_popescu: today. right now. as we speak. people are doing the useful task of putting cpus in boxes. is this incomprehensible to the engineering mind ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ten thousand different idiots are offering me this service as we speak.
mircea_popescu: i do not wish to pay random idiots, i wish to pay people in the republic.
mircea_popescu: people in the republic ARE MENTAL DEFFECTIVES meanwhile, REFUSE!!111 to be paid to do simple task.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you said yourself that there is no bulletproof hosting. how long do public torrent sites survive? and do you think they have not tried the 'bulletproof' route (not all of them, granted)?
mircea_popescu: fully specified, clearly profitable job, won't do it. seesh.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger nevermind that! i want to get a new eulora server, for instance.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck should i buy it from anyone outside of wot ?
Framedragger: we are, in a way, oblivious, to the *present issues at hand*, hm.
mircea_popescu: i am currently spending TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. each year. on this service.
mircea_popescu: how fucking hard is it to grasp. there's money on the table fucking pick it up already jesus god almighty it's like trying to get cs grad students to talk to girls.
mircea_popescu: for the past two years, since i last brought this up, guess what ? i've been paying non-wot people. because i gotta keep servers up yes.
mircea_popescu: EVERYONE here. trinque has servers, yes ? Framedragger rents servers yes ? EVERYONE spends more on servers than on rent. there's a huge amount of money that should NOT be paid out to fucking hilary clinton's friends.
Framedragger: i'm not sure if it's accurate to call self 'isp' if you're just reselling rented servers.
Framedragger: unless you own them and have physical access to, which exposes one to opsec + requirement to live in non-nato country, or w/e.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and add yet another girl nobody knows to the wot and you weirdos get to worry and wonder about her too, and then another and then another and by 2020 wot consists of mp and his friends and these weird dudes ? really, this is the plan ?
mircea_popescu: it's not a fucking telco. it rents lines and resells them to consumers.
trinque: comcast isn't an ISP; it's a tv company
mircea_popescu: trinque what was your server bill aggregated over 2016 ? degree of magnitude ?
Framedragger: so just to clarify the technicalities in my mind, in your head this doesn't even imply registering for an isp as 'normally' understood (getting an autonomous system number assigned). which means you may not even be able to control reverse ip records. not a lotta.. power.. if shit goes down. which it will.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you yourself pay at least a few hundred a month on it. do you pay that much in rent ? on it fucking goes, this.
trinque: mircea_popescu: in the 15-20k range across all projects
mircea_popescu: Framedragger how am i keeping you from registering for as ?
Framedragger: you're not, you're not. also re several hundred, it's less, it's two small dedicated boxes on malware-infested provider + a vps
mircea_popescu: alright. point remains -- we do use THIS resource in excess of any other.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of anyone with a guaranteed market this size being "oh... but the bugaboo and the tsetse fly".
mircea_popescu: people open fucking restaurants with MAJOR investment on the basis of ~the hope~ that maybe they get the foot traffic.
Framedragger: that's true, and i see why you're bewildered. it's just that under the description above, i only see a wot-member being an interface point with a normal-isp. i suppose you would say that 'yes and this is fine' (it's about having someone who is in wot be responsible)?
Framedragger: i'll go ahead and say (amid your laughs): OVH. it's an isp alright:
☟︎ Framedragger: a thing which at the very least has a NOC 24/7 incident response centre.
Framedragger: yes, it rents servers and bandwidth to customers.
mircea_popescu: it just has a contractual relation with them. they're operated in a diff "pc"
Framedragger: i'd need to check but i do believe they do. but sure, it may as well lease them.
mircea_popescu: which is precisely and exactly what you'd do too. and so no, absolutely no differeence in kind between you and ovh,
mircea_popescu: which nobody forces you to import because a) you're not a bunch of french speaking tards with barely the brainpower needed to power a chickenh and b) you're not stuck chashing the "shared and wordpress" hosting "market" composed of similarly mentally stunted individuals and their $5 yearly budget.
mircea_popescu: adding manpower to a project makes it later. this is eminently visible here, it is an unspeakable advantage to be able to work alone, because the "team" at ovh makes everyone dumber not smarter.
mircea_popescu: currently a server costs 3k to buy and 15k to rent for a month.
mircea_popescu: out of the money i wasted since 2015 they could have burned 10 and i wouldn't have actually noticed the difference.
Framedragger: (i of course see the point (by way of tmsr history as well) of being able to choose particular customers carefully, that is true of course)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform take cherryservers, by far one of the cheapest : 4x e5 4620 v3 is 1300 euros for a year
mircea_popescu: and in general don't get into fucking arguments with me about my numbers being off when i buy these weekly and you do yearly if at all.
mircea_popescu: and especially not when the last time we had an argument you ate your intel or what was it.
Framedragger: ah fuck that was annual, he duped us!! (i'm sorry.)
mircea_popescu: i was speaking of yearly costs throughout what the fuck.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:31 Framedragger: i'll go ahead and say (amid your laughs): OVH. it's an isp alright:
mircea_popescu: well what the fucxk am i going to do with it for a month, takes longer to install it. that's like giving yo ua one month employment, i recall you're on the record explainin the downside.
Framedragger: '15k to rent for a month' is an insane way of wording. nevertheless, i learned my lesson
mircea_popescu: myeah. the idea was "to rent it by the month". foxtail i guess.
shinohai clones sdf.org and sets up isp/hosting
mircea_popescu: so, to reiterate the constructive part, also found in 2015 discussion re same : a) identify some decent dcs that do good service. this may be prior knowledghe, may be proximity so you can visit poersonally od some work etc. 2) colo some gear bespoke to your larger customers, and some well priced gear you can find to vps out of 3) profit. and for the rest of your life.
☟︎ trinque: asciilifeform knows this, but his only solution for diddlement is to be able to fire the thing onto a clean box quickly, and I understand the challenges there re: state.
mircea_popescu: take only btc, pay your 0.1% to the republic and live happily ever after as a well respected, much sought and very productive member of the community.
mircea_popescu: (yes, mp has been trying to do this for a long, long time now.)
mircea_popescu: something something cocaine something something bright kid with retarded blinders on something.
trinque: this cock.li guy or someone else?
Framedragger: cock.li served its mission for doing initial ipv4 space scans, tho
trinque: well, where the fuck did that guy go?
jhvh1: Framedragger: I have not seen vc.
mircea_popescu: trinque no but this is the problem, a full slate of lanky, ill kept 20 somethings that would be technically brilliant and have all the business sense of a dead hooker.
mircea_popescu: and i can keep cycling through them till kingdom come, it's like trying to buy heroin in chicago.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ~may lead there~. which from what i gather some people want for themselves, or something.
mircea_popescu: get the gf involved, if more hands are needed send her to the lesbian club to come back with another.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: disk goes down. shit gets stolen. ddos. your isp is ~broker to the upstream, so you have to escalate.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:42 mircea_popescu: so, to reiterate the constructive part, also found in 2015 discussion re same : a) identify some decent dcs that do good service. this may be prior knowledghe, may be proximity so you can visit poersonally od some work etc. 2) colo some gear bespoke to your larger customers, and some well priced gear you can find to vps out of 3) profit. and for the rest of your life.
mircea_popescu: incident is either that there's a flood/meteor/volcano, in which case you're not needed, because dc will handle it itserlf ; or else that customer fucked up his machine, in which case he should have frucking known better and fuck him.
mircea_popescu: your job does not include "24/7 customer support", because it doesn't have why to include it.
mircea_popescu: and besides, you were here every day anyway even when it didn't pay you anything.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i fell like we should all get drunk by this point, but: in this scenario, you're saying that dc would handle all hardware faults?
mircea_popescu: customer had a raid, will be fixed when dc gets around to hotswap anyway.
mircea_popescu: makes for a great article on your suddenly eminently followable blog.
mircea_popescu: afaik nobody has to date wrote that blog post, "hey, check out the one time some rebel threw molotov into a dc!"
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: customer doesn't have a raid == 'well what did they expect' i guess - granted, that actually makes sense. just need to be extra clear in T&Cs...
mircea_popescu: if one needs to read a pile of boilerplate to not be stupid, the pile of boilerplate ain't gonna help anyway.
Framedragger: i do not mean 'restrictions on content' or any other inane shit. i mean response time and so on.
mircea_popescu: huge timesavers, though, eliminating all the gunk empire idiots need to interface with each other's idiocy.
Framedragger: (this will sound cheesy but i do feel like i'm coming to this with a fiat'ish mind, by which i mean, underestimating the power of the wot. 'you trust this wot person to make good, no fine print, the end.')
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform come to think of nobody, afaik there exists ONE SINGLE WEBSITE on the whole internet for the whole internet's existence that documents the "hey, check out that time usg got told to go dangle" also.
mircea_popescu: for years google was fulla "oh, mp IN DANGER OF BEING EXTRADITED!!11". experts in things and matters, quora style.
Framedragger: btw just to note, (at least initially) large part of bitcoin revenue would have to be converted into fiat because upstream may require fiat. (sure, it'd be nice to just be able to ignore these upstreams.)
mircea_popescu: can convert large piles of btc into tits if you feel like, what.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the important point here is that the elimination of attack surfaces is sure to produce vacuum packed spherical chickens. it is a necessary quality of physical existence to have attack surfaces. that's how you get laid, also.
trinque: and there are guaranteed to be petabytes of cp on aws and every other host
mircea_popescu: trinque i seriously wouldn't expect this sort of problem. who the fuck is going to be doing that, i wish to know.
trinque: point being whatever is being done, the host isn't doing it
mircea_popescu: prolly cleannest item on a per-size basis known to the tubes.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. pretty much the only way independent, tech minded kid can feed himself today is to do a good job of running an isp.
trinque: myriad neonazi sites run all day
trinque: "no but those are all honeypots; every single one!!!11!"
mircea_popescu: about half of all the ones i personally know (ie, middle class tech kids) ended up there this way.
trinque: then one moves, but what's that one? daily stormer or something?
mircea_popescu: notrly, actually. /me recently ran into one i recall from 2007. continous decade in bizniss!
trinque: notion seems to be that somebody's gonna end up in room 101 for hosting tmsr items
trinque: mk, maybe when they bother to go get the "nambla" site
mircea_popescu: notion seems to be that human psyche's principal job in average human is protection from change.
trinque: business annoyances are already way over "harmless"
trinque eyeballs his roughly 100k legal bill from last year
☟︎ trinque: that's what it is, endless annoyances
trinque: mircea_popescu: suing, guy may have allegedly (blah blah) stolen some things
mircea_popescu: it's just not fucking worth it trying to "t&c" so to speak.
davout: is your point that some work would indeed be required?
mircea_popescu: davout what are you doing fgor a living these days anyway ?
mircea_popescu: other than watching horses spin around on a plate-sized island.
davout: you pretty much have it
davout: well, i'm following the conversation
Framedragger: and how would mircea_popescu react if suddenly isp had policy of blocking spamzorz?
Framedragger: i'm not sure where the 'isp should not care about content' line should be in the context of tmsr.
davout: i'll ask around if people in my local meatwot have some experience with local DCs, don't think they'd bite
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i have nfi, but i know for a fact there's nothing in tmsr or in nature that says "person must provide impossible object in regular course of business".
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 17:10 mircea_popescu: no, actually, it concerned an isp which, like any other isp, can't afford to actually pay a lawyer to read all the legalse spam being thrown their way. the guilty party here is the state of california, as per
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524561 mircea_popescu: besides, you're supposed to maintain relations with multiple dcs anyway.
trinque: Framedragger: guy who runs ISP can choose how he runs his own house, eh?
trinque: "no fucking purple backgrounds on sites" whatever, it's your house
Framedragger: true. for some stupid reason i had it in my mind that mircea_popescu would vehemently oppose any such arbitrary restrictions. but this was based on some inane interpretation of some misread trilema text, probably
trinque: the thing where law comes from the sky instead of from men takes time to unwind
trinque: Framedragger: he might want something, and then what? y'all either deal or don't.
mircea_popescu: "no openssh no shit compiled with gcc > 4 no stuff from 3.x python no..."
mircea_popescu: gotta keep it short lest it ends up longer than traditional slas.
shinohai: I would imagine those needing tmsr services could set up own cdn, no?
mircea_popescu: shinohai the idea is to resolve the problem not to self-lick the icecone.
Framedragger: ack re. flow/direction of law. but re. 'no ajax', i imagine the primary service offering being an unmanaged dedicated box, in which case i'd find it reasonable to require of the isp not to peek at insides (unless external behaviour is ~spam, etc.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. a solved instance of this problem would be me going "hey x, i want a new server for eulora, what do you got that's good and where do i send the fuckgoats" which returns within a day or two with options and quotes which i pay which results in the server being live sometime next week.
mircea_popescu: because this is exactly what i wanted to do three hours ago and couldn't.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, re-re-read the line i said read insistently. you do get some boxes for vps ing out of. either because cheap or because obsolete etc.
mircea_popescu: the only substitute i would consider from the fiat world would be a bulletproof variant, because i will literally not deal with peons who do not at least declaratively claim to not follow usg law.
Framedragger: (i mentioned 2x4 (russian hosting provider) above because they are known for not giving a fuck about dmca or other usg laws, and responding with "your mother" (sic) to requests to take down a hosted site which is running a botnet C&C)
mircea_popescu: but you're people not trees, people travel for their job all the god damned fucking time.
mircea_popescu: afaik it was indepoendent. not been keeping much track.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, gotta be independent, they got a dispute with the uk over chagos.
shinohai: asciilifeform: no I am entrenched in the Southern part of Reich unfortunately, would have to relocate to more friendly (and preferably Spanish-speaking) climes.
mircea_popescu: recall, the whole "us wants base" debacle ? diego garcia ?
Framedragger currently checking ripe db etc to see how 2x4 hosts things. their dns servers are legally in seychelles.. etc.
mircea_popescu: in no conceivable presentation is this a low hanging fruit. the odds of it actually being molested are lower than baseline
mircea_popescu: (baseline is, young couple with nary a clue "start business", get reamed by bureaucracy.)
mircea_popescu: was a film re this, pretty bad but relevant in context, what was it...
mircea_popescu: dumb broad and her lazy, ignorant teenaged sister go into business cleanning up crime scenes, start a fire.
mircea_popescu: also, emily blunt is a fucking gorgon, what are all these people smoking. i'd rather watch barbara streisand gargle.
davout: i'll be traveling for the two next weeks, but i'll ask around when coming back.
trinque: I see that I'm not the only one who reads CL personals for teh lulz
shinohai: Oh they are a gold mine, this one happened to be provided courtesy of a girl I did stream setup for xD
Framedragger: in which SF startups realise that hosting all infrastructure on multiple fault lines is not the greatest idea ever
mircea_popescu: "who could have predicted failure to pay bills results in power outage" "california"
mircea_popescu: davout i don't get it, what'd you ask around for ? people in the wot who you know but we somehow don't ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trinque shinohai meanwhiule deleted. thanks to scriba's archiving service i could read it.
shinohai: Poor guy, wonder if he found a mark for his lard ass lel
mircea_popescu: looks more like some 30yo douche found pics going through "his" "gf's" phone, set up craiglist spam robot.
mod6: Update: Moving on to FG #2. Will collect just over 1.0 Gb and then do ent/dh tests.
mod6: Eatblock test upto 363K+ blocks and into blk0019.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 18:21 mircea_popescu: actually a "no
https and no ajax" rule would kick all ass.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1325.4, Best ask: 1326.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 1325.5, 24 hour volume: 8181.49424142, 24 hour low: 1293.2, 24 hour high: 1333.1, 24 hour vwap: None
shinohai: nope it performs pretty much exact same functions, though it shouldn't be too difficult to change it from buttfunex
jhvh1: shinohai: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid currency (1 more message)
jhvh1: shinohai: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1054.589052, Best ask: 1058.59512, Bid-ask spread: 4.00607, Last trade: 1054.589052, 24 hour volume: 9670.36210000, 24 hour low: 1047.035748, 24 hour high: 1071.1404, 24 hour vwap: 1058.37683489
mircea_popescu: of course the question of "Change it to what" rears its ugly head. there's still no price signal in btc, no more than there was back in 2015.
mircea_popescu: it's either "website printing random numbers" or else "usg mouth piece" or else "chinese exchange that does no exchanging"
mircea_popescu: could run us elections out of this material, same exact substance.
shinohai: Yeah truth be told there is no good solution rly.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> well, where the fuck did that guy go? << Apparently customs raped
deedbot: Joshua-I voiced for 30 minutes.
Joshua-I: I read you want hosting. Seems like a straightforward thing. What do you need?
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
Joshua-I: I'm interested in simulating this problem
Joshua-I: Like looking for the potential solutions
BingoBoingo: I have not. Prefer generic cage trap. Build a salad in there until you tempt critter.
BingoBoingo: Well, murder springs have to have some muscle
jhvh1: shinohai: [KJV] Genesis 1:28 :: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 23:24 asciilifeform: phun phakt: the folx i hired originally to do the pest control, not only insist on 'humane' trap, but lock them for weekend! i asked 'why?' answer 'it's the law'
trinque: varies widely by state, has nothing to do with "usg" really