mircea_popescu: kinda not so many options ; not like anyone'd pay to see 'em strip or anything.
asciilifeform: starvation would be a decent option.
mircea_popescu: sadly us opted out of starvation.
shinohai: Further lulz develop in the BU camp as nodes are crashing yet again: https://github.com/BitcoinUnlimited/BitcoinUnlimited/issues/386
asciilifeform: if dr.mengele were an american, he would probably have ended up... teaching medicine
mircea_popescu: not even street urchins starve these days.
asciilifeform: (if preet can teach law..!)
mircea_popescu: shinohai i'm sure they'll "professionally" "handle" etc.
asciilifeform: lol 'pruning or full?'
asciilifeform: 'No idea if I'm right but it looks like that just attacks pruned nodes.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yep, i expect that's exactly correct.
shinohai: "If you upgrade to trb, this has been fixed for ages" <<< /me wants to comment
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: so go right ahead.
ben_vulpes: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-teen-girl-missing-from-lawndale-20170321-story.html
shinohai: I'm blocked from commenting on Bitcoin Unlimited code :/
mircea_popescu: must be you weren't professional enough.
mircea_popescu: our democracy!1
ben_vulpes: i must be a bad person to even be thinking about the ethnicities involved
ben_vulpes: "The teen has disappeared once before but her mother says she was found later that day in a neighborhood park." heh
mircea_popescu: "with cum on her upper lip and 120 in loose bills."
mircea_popescu: i suppose i needn't point out the correct verbal tense'd have been "the teen HAD disappeared". no tense left behind!
ben_vulpes: life is complicated.
mircea_popescu: plus it keeps disappearing only to be found in a neighbourhood park.
shinohai: I suppose BU feels that tmsr members must secretly support the blockstream agenda as well.
asciilifeform: shinohai: fill me in re 'the blockstream agenda'
ben_vulpes: yeah what dat
asciilifeform: wtf is a blockstream
mircea_popescu: random usg "company" that's supposed to matter in the sense that idiots will pretend so.
shinohai: Blockstream is the company developing the "Lightning Network"
asciilifeform: this year's mtgox ?
mircea_popescu: typical campbell soup can strategy. "please agree usg matters through the avenue of agreeing it's either usg.corp1 or else usg.corp2 ! engage the controversy!"
ben_vulpes: is this another iceberg of dumb to ignore?
mircea_popescu: nah, not even.
ben_vulpes: icecube?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes entirely. at least back in the day they were coming up with "coinbase" they put some effort into it.
shinohai: https://blockstream.com/ <<< Leading developers of "Blokechain technologeeeees"
mircea_popescu: by now, entirely abstract paper tank divisions.
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should say derisions.
mircea_popescu: to quote phf, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629431☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 15:46 phf: jeez, i like how they are not even trying. a bootstrap template one pager and a link to "bitcointalk thread"
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, remember the time when the fake "bitcoin foundation" was a thing ? noticed how it... sorta got dropped ? and nobody felt any strong compulsion to explain or inquire as to... why the fuck ? nor did this lack of intererst seemingly inform any self-examination along the lines of "if this thing could be dropped so easily, what consistency did it really have ???"
shinohai: Bruce Fenton still believes he can bring it back.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, next year it'll be tru.th or whatever $name-looking-for-something-to-be-the-name-of.
asciilifeform: https://bitcoinfoundation.org << their www still loads
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah that's the lulziest part of these.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so does sex.com
asciilifeform: 'Board members include Brock Pierce, of Blockchain Capital (Board Chair), Bobby Lee, of BTCC (Board Vice Chair), Elizabeth McCauley of Coinsecure, Vinny Lingham of Civic, Michael Perklin of C4 and Francis Pouliot of Satoshi Portal.'
ben_vulpes: BROOOOOOCK
asciilifeform: lel, mr.pedo is still there
mircea_popescu: you're looking at a ~2015 item.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from 'Bitcoin Foundation Appoints Llew Claasen as Executive Director Monday, June 20, 2016'
shinohai: I got into a 2-3 page lulzfest with Fenton abt Brock being a pedo, he defended him to the end
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai: (on bitcointalk)
ben_vulpes: "fenton"?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wanna-be lawyer dork.
ben_vulpes: not even actually a lawyer?
asciilifeform: 'BlockOn Conference 2017 will feature 2 days of inspiring talks, new demos and interactive networking to more than 300 attendees from the Blockchain community.' << for a dead horse, it neighs pretty well
mircea_popescu: eh. half of argentina's a lawyer.
ben_vulpes: uno minimo respeto por los abogados or how did it go
mircea_popescu: over icecream i read in some fashion mag about this female imbecile that "closed a chapter in her life bla bla" and dedicated herself full time to her... interior decoration blog.
mircea_popescu: lawyer.
ben_vulpes: the place is like 2 decades behind even the states
ben_vulpes: eyeballs probably still pay!
mircea_popescu: eh get out.
mircea_popescu: if i went out with a wrench and threatened people to break their head unless they pay me 100 pesos i'd break all the heads
mircea_popescu: because nobody has a six dollar bill on them.
ben_vulpes: place is still lousy with advertising
mircea_popescu: they buy socks on layaway, you understand me ? 50yo dorks trying to look like uni professors, 500 colones worth of merchandise.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: americans also buy socks on layaway, it is simply structured differently.
mircea_popescu: you can't live off your "interior decoration blog" in the states.
mircea_popescu: and certainly all the "lawyers" that tried made a fine example of themselves.
asciilifeform: but in orcistan -- can?!
asciilifeform: how?
mircea_popescu: tucker max comes to mind, and there was the recent copycat we discussed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that's my point, OUT OF THE FUYCKING QUESTION she can, or that any one who was actually a lawyer would even consider trying.
mircea_popescu: the fact she says this proves she never was a lawyer, never could have been a lawyer.
mod6: I'll tell ya, I've never had much prior experience but... the american health care "system" is about as useless as rubber lips on a woodpecker.
mod6: Someday, I'll probably elaborate more. But wow, what a failure.
mircea_popescu: mod6 take a hint, go to mexico and pay cash.
mircea_popescu: or w/e, romania.
mod6: For sure. Anywhere has to be better than this hell hole.
mircea_popescu: by now the capital goods advantage isn't that marked for the us, and the injuns make barely ok doctors. you're better off with "3rd world".
mircea_popescu: i paid cash for, eg, computed tomography here. "immense sum" aka $450.
mircea_popescu: same day in the sense of, within an hour of walking in.
shinohai: Here, that'd be more to the tune of $45`000
mod6: shit, just about anything serious here will bankrupt the aveage johnny mcfucksticks.
mircea_popescu: irk ? and next day if you';re lucky.
shinohai: Plus extra for the specialist to interpret
mod6: ya
mircea_popescu: mod6 and they got a printout so fucking crisp and clear ~i~ could read it
mircea_popescu: and weep.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic: I have published a new version of V (99994 K), submitted here: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-March/000260.html
mod6: You will find that The Bitcoin Foundation website has duly been updated as well as the TRB How-To Steps (nothing more has changed than the version number of the tarball to grab for V).
mircea_popescu: nice.
asciilifeform: neato mod6
mod6: Thanks. :]
asciilifeform: holy mother of fuck, asciilifeform sweated for 2 wks over nothing, turned out it was a bug in... gnat
asciilifeform: in gnatelim, of all things.
mircea_popescu: what was ?
asciilifeform: entirely inexplicable failure of any stream subclass whatsoever, from any example code whatsoever, to work.
asciilifeform: i can already picture naggum, might have said, 'hey whatsthematter gnatelim is not part of ada standard, nobody promised you that it'll work and not cut out beating heart from an in-use package'
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE72A8A92BAD54483D369030249CB608FDE6742BFFE5683D09385073F04B97DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1578...9597 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown PE LMA)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE72A8A92BAD54483D369030249CB608FDE6742BFFE5683D09385073F04B97DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1424...5529 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown PE LMA)
shinohai: ty mod6 o7
mod6: thanks for all your hardwork shinohai!
shinohai: np mod6 .... I see you got to the release before I got to msg you and let ya know the other tests went fine, but I didn't expect hiccups after this morning's first.
mod6: Werd. :]
mod6: Thanks for the update.
mod6: Thanks for following through on the remainders.
mircea_popescu: "hello ? we have kidnapped your daughter!" "o yeah ? what are your demands ?" "no demands. we just like kidnapping daughters."
mod6: heheh
mircea_popescu: :D
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if i went out with a wrench and threatened people to break their head unless they pay me 100 pesos i'd break all the heads << That's so primitive. Gotta break out the Chain Tongs like a pro!
asciilifeform: in other veryolds, 'you'll feel no dismay, watching your house burn, after you get to see how the bedbug dies!' (korean proverb)
trinque: http://www.outsports.com/2017/3/20/14983388/transgender-weightlifting-laurel-hubbard-wins << In doing so she set new national records “in the snatch and clean and jerk,” according to 1 News Now.
shinohai: -https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7ZnZ2SUwAARAeH.jpg ^________________^
shinohai: "A peer to peer electronic bug crash system"
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-hustler/ << Trilema - The Hustler
mircea_popescu: shinohai progress! revolutionary new economy!
mircea_popescu: an' trinque's thing's just too adorbs. clean snatch jerk eh.
BingoBoingo: OMG London Terrorism!
shinohai: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson: " I didn't want this job .... but mah wife has me pussywhipped so I did it."
shinohai: Now that mircea_popescu pointed out fangs in "The anti-woman" I see them everywhere http://archive.is/3Hujw
mircea_popescu: shinohai lol.
mircea_popescu: idiots.
mircea_popescu: “Seventeen years old is obviously older, but at the same time it doesn’t make anything right,”
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is wrong with these people ?
shinohai: To be fair, all her teeth are relatively straight, so a bit or two would be most welcome in certain circumstances.
shinohai: The creme de la creme though is ..... "Fowlkes taught anatomy, physiology ...."
shinohai: Anatomy indeed!
mircea_popescu: the notion that she's in a position of power over some male student is perhaps the lulziest bit in there.
mircea_popescu: wtf is she going to do, gossip ?
diana_coman: eh, give him a bad grade, "dent his self-esteem", "ruin his future" etc
mircea_popescu: yeah right. she can't do that.
diana_coman: yes, but at the same time she "can"
mircea_popescu: sounds like a bum deal to me.
shinohai: On paper anyway
diana_coman: tbh I have no idea why/how would someone go into teaching at this moment; my only hypothesis is that really, really, they have NO other option at all
mircea_popescu: "we pretend young women going out with young men is a big deal in order to thereby prop the nonsensical fiction that taking the absolute worst job there is somehow gives bordeline sleeves "power"."
diana_coman: but like at all
shinohai: Worked for Preeet eh
mircea_popescu: this prosecution is expected to produce a further 3k shoulda-been-a-stripper enrollments into teaching countrywide, and at least 50k more useless undergrads signing up for overpriced college tuition.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman no see, she wants to have power. because she doesn't. and if you go into teaching you have power, because that's why they keep prosecuting them.
mircea_popescu: it's ~same reason dumb pubescent girls went into "witching". siunce people burn witches, it's clearly JUST the thing for a lowly wench with no resources.
mircea_popescu: why do 30yos go around on the software adequate for the needs of a 14yo in 1817 is anyone's guess, but i suppose its proper name is progress.
diana_coman: ugh, I thought it was already more than obvious that no power at all,what with all the assorted "rights" and "child protection" and what nots
mircea_popescu: as always, the empire is consistent, in its batshit insane sort of logic.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman nothing's obvious to the powerless. this is a pleonasm.
diana_coman: that's precisely my point: I get it that some 20 years ago they went into teaching for this reason; meanwhile it's so constricted and day by day more so that ...
diana_coman: I guess so
mircea_popescu: obvious is ice to power's water.
diana_coman: makes sense, that
ben_vulpes: !!up aseriousgogetta are you going to keep joining and parting all morning?
deedbot: aseriousgogetta voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: tard's been doing it for weeks
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: oh i know
ben_vulpes: seriously, go and get her
asciilifeform: * crackerJack (~infopirat@rrcs-50-84-154-226.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #trilema << oh hey, because apparently we need TWO ninjashotguns from same pigsty
phf: we're moving on up, but still no confiscated electronics on the border
phf is mildly disappointed
mircea_popescu: that'd be like the 1983 soviets confiscating communist international propaganda material
mircea_popescu: wtf do they want with anyone's ipad.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the proverbial 'six words from the pen of the honest man', presumably.
asciilifeform: gunpowderplot.txt
mircea_popescu: on the ipad ? typed one letter at a time ?
mircea_popescu: does it even HAVE a vi or anything ?
phf: perversely is probably does
asciilifeform: or sitting in mail etc
phf: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vim/id492668168?mt=8
asciilifeform: or in fauxpgp
mircea_popescu: that'd be fine employment for what's his name wanna-be da indian. fill tax returns on ipad kbd for the rest of his days.
asciilifeform: ( speaking of which, https://archive.is/p1EJN >> Run Moar Keybase )
mircea_popescu: lel
shinohai is a little sad to see vim as an app
mircea_popescu: "As reported by Motherboard, a September 2016 filing by a Canadian court revealed that the Dutch police were able to decrypt the PGP-encrypted messages because the Dutch investigators may have found the decryption keys on the seized server itself."
mircea_popescu: imbeciles./
mircea_popescu: wtf is "end to end encryption" in the opinion of that journalist ?
asciilifeform: i still wonder, the lurk remoras, they have no www browser on their box ?
asciilifeform: reading logs goes against their religion. or wat.
mircea_popescu: you care too much.
asciilifeform: strictly entomological interest.
mircea_popescu: yeah but it's a little like wondering why the pollen suspended in water took a left.
mircea_popescu: brownian motion's a thing. there's no why.
mircea_popescu: they're subhuman for a reason, and the reason they're subhuman is exactly this : BRAINDAMAGE.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMSc97UksM
asciilifeform: tru.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630768 << lol: peru☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 01:36 deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE72A8A92BAD54483D369030249CB608FDE6742BFFE5683D09385073F04B97DD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1424...5529 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown PE LMA)
asciilifeform: and here i was, wondered if they even had the net there.
asciilifeform: !$ ssh
scriba: ssh banner of as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
asciilifeform: and not only the net, but they have magic-debian.
mircea_popescu: why would the orcs have anything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from not updating since '06, say.
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: next they';re going to have internet in 1994 and the ps2 in 1995.
mircea_popescu: heck, the whole africa used phone market isn't there because THESE FUCKS EAT THE LEFTOVERS AS A DEFINITIONAL CHARACTERISTIC. but purely as a matter of choice.
asciilifeform: choice?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the lulz about the expired windows on argentina's patriotic pride big screen next to the "national theatre" ?
asciilifeform: we have these here
asciilifeform: on ATMs, even
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
asciilifeform: winblowz xp bsod on atm, does not even surprise anyone, any moar, afaik.
mircea_popescu: point being, by the time argentina heard of computers in 2010, windows 95 was just coming out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't bsod. was "this windows is anciend please sir."
asciilifeform: i did find myself wondering, what exactly microshit did to make sure that it in fact ended up happening in 'we heard of computer in 2010' planet.
asciilifeform: the argentines et al had a golden chance to not-have-microshit
asciilifeform: and fucked it.
mircea_popescu: there;s a reason rms spent his days shuttling from brazil to liberia or wherever the fuck "open source" was "really taking off" once open source was well and truly dead.
mircea_popescu: why did they think it's cool a half year after it was no longer worth the mention ?
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do they think dollars are an investment in 1995 ? it was a fucking investment in 1913, but back THEN they were buying austro-hungarian paper.
asciilifeform: it is entirely possible to be 'behind the times' in a non-retarded way, e.g. 'what ipad, i still have a working pdp11'
mircea_popescu: ipad is not the times.
asciilifeform: why they instead have win2k -- i cannot say
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the point, and i suspect the definitional characteristic of orcdom : the inability to distinguish science mag from cosmo. the failure to comprehend ipad is not nor can not be, no matter what happens, the times.
mircea_popescu: "but everyone uses it!" dun matter "but it's really cool!" dun matter "but i really like it!" you're an orc, do the opposite of your natural impulse because your natural impulse is made of shit. etc etc.
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that americans, in the general case, can distinguish cosmo from whatever.
mircea_popescu: and they're orcs these days.
mircea_popescu: shockley period americans didn't have much trouble distinguishing car from rickshaw.
mircea_popescu: "but everyone rickshaws!" not for long, bitches.
asciilifeform: funnily enough (at least to me) even the humble rickshaw was introduced by the white man
asciilifeform: ( prior -- oxcart, or legs, pick. )
mircea_popescu: aha. different period tho.
asciilifeform: yea
asciilifeform: incidentally.. there are pedal-powered rickshaws in washington. for ~decade nao.
asciilifeform: ~100% of the pedallers : white d00dz in their 20s, 'college victims'
mircea_popescu: i expect they're just trying to meet girls.
mircea_popescu: (there's a reason bar wenches were female, and the reason is, that originally it was a very reasonable way to get yourself mated.)
asciilifeform: from the position of a draft horse?!
mircea_popescu: why not ? submissive sex, gotta display, neh ?
asciilifeform: no i was speaking of the pedal folx
mircea_popescu: chick knows what she's buying and how much it costs, mebbe-mebbe.
mircea_popescu: yes.
phf: i know a guy who rickshaws (in new york, now in austin), and loved it for that very reason. i think he stopped because young girls don't typically get pedicab, mostly drunken old women who "grab his ass" etc.
mircea_popescu: so he turns around and "ass grabbing carries a twenny dollar fine m'am"
phf: he's not that smooth, though that would be a sop reaction in india
mircea_popescu: contrary to the common fantasy, most betas would actually be a lot fucking happier if they could live in out and out sexual slavery rather than the bs they're stuck with currently.
mircea_popescu: most "bad relationships" are exactly that. bitter moon (the film) if anyone saw that crap is best summarized as "two subbies arguing who should top that evening".
mircea_popescu: it gets pretty messy.
mircea_popescu: phf and i bet the happenstance that friend-describes-him-as-not-smooth and the incidental that no-hot-chicks-take-to-his-bower are entirely and wholly unrelated in his own estimation, if somehow it were to be obtained yes ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which common fantasy
mircea_popescu: head of household or w/e. independent agent at the least.
phf: guy connects to trilema from his android, gets banned, still doesn't reach out to anybody. "oh, i'm sorry, my bad, i will learn to wash ass", something
mircea_popescu: most of the tubes lead nowhere / most of the nerves aren't connected / most of the cables lay buried in a pile of mud.
mircea_popescu: postapocalyptica, yes ? "i wonder what this rope is connected to" "nothing."
mircea_popescu: 50-50 the "intelligent" app just connects him for good measure and behind the screen.
mircea_popescu: it's the I[di]OT way. browsers "prefetch" pages, on it goes.
phf: "i have an irc client???"
ben_vulpes: in other government science: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39351833
mircea_popescu: ten years later i finally figured out what fucking possessed nival to ruin heroes of might and magic 5.
mircea_popescu: they were trying to do final fantasy tactics! holy shit, a decade later
ben_vulpes: https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/03/30-years-ago-a-look-back-at-1987/520290/ << featuring agent orange, liza minella, old compaqs, the clintons, and a few ships on fire
ben_vulpes: minelli*
asciilifeform: 'Pennsylvania State Treasurer R. Budd Dwyer holds a pistol as he prepared to shoot himself in front of cameras during a news conference in his State Capitol office in Harrisburg.' << pretty great
asciilifeform: where did these go.
mircea_popescu: the ones that did it, to the graveyard. the replacements -- don't do it.
asciilifeform: noshit
mircea_popescu: hey, you asked! :D
asciilifeform: 'where am i?' 'you are in a car'
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: 'Since Dwyer died in office, his widow Joanne was able to collect full survivor benefits, totaling over $1.28 million.' --pediwik
asciilifeform: lulzy.
mircea_popescu: yeah, dead lizard srs bad news for the empire.
mircea_popescu: kinda the point of killing them, really.
asciilifeform: pretty minor league lizard, afaik.
mircea_popescu: and it still is a whole million of 1980 dollars.
asciilifeform: iirc - a postman's widow could collect a mil. depending on when he dies.
ben_vulpes: heh "current" ppc gentoo build is dated 2014?
asciilifeform: heh, that's what, 4? 5? yrs after the last ppc box was sold other than secondhand?
asciilifeform: gentoo afaik never had a theo de raadt, with cellar full of vax, pdp
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you really oughta cross-compile the whole shebang
asciilifeform: as asciilifeform did for, e.g., pogo.
ben_vulpes: surely that's not going to be as simple as adding the right CROSS_COMPILE flag to portage conf files, right?
asciilifeform: probably not.
mircea_popescu: eh why the hell not. you're gonna be the lucky one,
ben_vulpes: what would "the right way" to "cross-compile the whole shebang" be?
mircea_popescu: software'll just work for you.
mircea_popescu: why the hell not.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thanks mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see the pogo build articles.
ben_vulpes: aye aye
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000033.html << arm cross-flags example (from ye olde trb)
asciilifeform: actually strike that,
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000074.html << recipe
asciilifeform: ^ includes the buildroot process
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, https://archive.is/F7Vjc << from the world of opsecfail lulz.
asciilifeform: ^ complete with 'oh it wasn't the tor, believe'
mircea_popescu: fentanyl ? druglords ?
mircea_popescu: whats next, titus anime steel ?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/0qmNU << from same rag. 'The US Third Circuit Court of Appeals today upheld a lower court ruling of contempt against a chap who claimed he couldn't remember the password to decrypt his computer's hard drives.'
mircea_popescu: aww
asciilifeform: any day nao, peine forte et dure comes back!111
asciilifeform: it's the logical end.
asciilifeform: (then -- 'coke machine.')
ben_vulpes: why, if prosecution relies on "known hashes" are these verboten integers not twiddled ever so slightly for each customer?
mircea_popescu: known hashes ?
ben_vulpes: "thousands of files with the same hash values as known child pornography files"
mircea_popescu: ah. you are asking the wrong question.
ben_vulpes: would be funny to re-release all of those files fuzzed ever so slightly
mircea_popescu: the right question is, why doesn't twitter alter all its images on the fly to hit those hashes
mircea_popescu: and the answer is, because twitter is part of usg, not part of the internet.
ben_vulpes: bloat the "known hashes" db rightly.
ben_vulpes: oooh and make a bunch of work for 'ai' image recognition programmers
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: afaik they use humans
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: at what point in the toolchain?
mircea_popescu: how exactly were some people capable of geting "hashes" of files they need some dork's password to decrypt ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: when deciding what to plant on the 'criminal' comp, naturally
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "decrypted mac pro but not external hdds"
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm slow, but i can't connect that to the q ?
ben_vulpes: didja read the article?
mircea_popescu: ah i did not.
asciilifeform: readerz write in : https://www.ctrlc.hu/~stef/blog/posts/pitchfork.html << new tardano.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, ACHTUNG s.nsa customers! moar FUCKGOATS shipped today. see your invoice www pg to learn if yours was in this batch.
asciilifeform: https://camp.hsbp.org/2016/pp7e0/fahrplan/system/attachments/22/original/camp__.pdf << sooo i look at his pcb -- antenna track?! then read, 'key exchange over 2.4GHz', 'post-quantum crypto (newhope and symmetric)'
asciilifeform: that was pretty quick snoar-inducer.
Framedragger: hm, even among new hipster crypto people newhope was still supposed to be 'experimental' / new (2015)
Framedragger: it's one thing tor jumping ahead with newhope because omg POSTQUANTUM, but a pgp board.. lol
asciilifeform: aaaaanything-but-rsa!!!1111
Framedragger: the radio interface is hipsta but talk about increased attack surface omg.
shinohai: Bored with all those other apps? Examine thy semen! http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/3/22/15009960/male-fertility-device-smartphone-app-semen-test
Framedragger: luckily there haven't been any leakage of key material over radio
asciilifeform: Framedragger: for some reason 9 out of 10 tardanos have onboard radios.
Framedragger: congratz on fuckgoats shipments asciilifeform btw
asciilifeform: Framedragger: got yours yet ?
Framedragger: and congratz mod6 on V release
ben_vulpes: !!up eo
deedbot: eo voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: not yet, airstrip1 royalmail.legit.biz must still be scanning it :)
ben_vulpes: does nobody up strangers anymore?
Framedragger: (mail from US takes a while here sometimes)
asciilifeform: i do idly wonder what the parcels will look like on the other end of their trip.
asciilifeform: that one time i sent a sample of boards to mircea_popescu , in 2014, was a real lulzfest
ben_vulpes: heh, link? pics?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc he posted a photo at some point, is in the l0gz
ben_vulpes: i assume, yes, and ask as i have nfi what even to search for
phf: ben_vulpes: i was thinking of wiring in an auto-upper for never seen accounts, but given the quality of ups.. i do wonder, if were to up them "faster" maybe they'll talk better
ben_vulpes: i'd almost rather see an auto-kicker
Framedragger: #trilema-lounge
ben_vulpes: "has nick joined and parted within the past week without saying anything after receiving voice?"
Framedragger: bots autoup folks there, use channel as funnel of good material into #trilema; or, bots calculate entropy of nicks outputting there, creating automatic pipeline.. horrible idea i know
phf: i'm not sure the idea is relevant, since you can just have an open channel for funneling already
phf: but it's not advertised anywhere. bulk of random strangers is going t come here
Framedragger: yeah sure
phf: also the whole "funnel of good material" was the original idea behind mp's "start your own channels"
ben_vulpes: i'll be surprised if new people are even welcome without immediately joining the wot and introducing themselves much after q3
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: q3? like, 3rd quarter of year?
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: what else
Framedragger: just sounded oddly specific
ben_vulpes: "much after q3" is specific to you?
ben_vulpes: nm, chores
ben_vulpes bbl
Framedragger: i simply haven't internalised the republic's world_takeover_timeline.txt
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630987 << for a second this looked like a response to the previous line :D☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:46 Framedragger: luckily there haven't been any leakage of key material over radio
Framedragger: heh works well with both :)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631002 << the remoras, historically, have shown 0 interest in talking, or - when talking - in making any sense☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:52 phf: ben_vulpes: i was thinking of wiring in an auto-upper for never seen accounts, but given the quality of ups.. i do wonder, if were to up them "faster" maybe they'll talk better
asciilifeform: the folx who actually want to speak -- and have something to say -- follow the instructions, they ask somebody for an 'up'.
ben_vulpes: mhm
asciilifeform: !!up fd_travel
deedbot: fd_travel voiced for 30 minutes.
fd_travel: good news, scriba et al.'s hosting provider is doing maintenance again, only this time it's scheduled (http://gedimai.iv.lt/?id=610)
fd_travel will change provider.
asciilifeform: kernel?!
asciilifeform: it's on a vps?!
ben_vulpes: such interrobang
fd_travel: yesyes. fwiw the ssh banner db is on dedicated server. i just have an old vps which has been doing just fine actually
fd_travel: for websites n' stuff. but need to move to normal box
fd_travel: hey to my knowledge quite a bit of tmsr infra is on vps :)
ben_vulpes: do you have a citation for that claim?
fd_travel: i recall checking deedbot's and a111's IPs (digitalocean etc), but hey, if it worx.
fd_travel: that said, not the best of arguments.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's www is on a vps, has been for decade+ , but it is not 'infrastructure'. )
fd_travel: (so, to be clear -- will move)
ben_vulpes: do has full boxes for rent
fd_travel: mk. (anyway, that was inane of me, need to move forward, not sideways)
fd_travel: ah hi scriba
ben_vulpes: don't they?
fd_travel: i wouldn't trust their virtualised 'dedicated box' offer to actually be dedicated but who knows
ben_vulpes: suppose not, color me wrong.
fd_travel has used DO before, does its job
asciilifeform: i am actually rather fond of my vps hoster, nfs co (discussed in the logs at least twice, one of which was the time mircea_popescu wrote to them 'why not bitcoin?' and they answered 'bitcoin is a snore', he then barfed)
asciilifeform: i pay couplea bux per mo for what is in effect five-nines uptime, and the closest thing i've ever seen to infinite ddos resistance
asciilifeform: and with 0 'cloudflare' or whatever other hipsterism.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nfs does 'vps'?
asciilifeform: the minus is that it is (yes) in usa, and has very limited support for anything that isn't text www
fd_travel: i wonder how they handle ddos. i mean, maybe your blog is just not baitsy enough :p
ben_vulpes: in other top lols, you can now have a "custom gender" in the google play store
ben_vulpes: my gender is now "Marquis"
asciilifeform: fd_travel: they have a strange and ancient setup, you use their nameserver, the boxes actually serving up your thing, vary, the ip is not static, quite eldritch
fd_travel: huh custom load balancing magic
asciilifeform: aha, and long before 'it was hip'
asciilifeform: they also claim that they have never dropped a paying account other than by court order , but i have no way of knowing if true.
asciilifeform: at any rate, for the price it is quite impossible to beat, i have nfi how they are able to supply this kind of service, at that price.
fd_travel: yeah i liked quite a few things about them when i spotted them long ago, micro-precision accounting, etc.
asciilifeform: aha, pay per byte.
asciilifeform: (they also have a thing, iirc, where you can buy 'buckets' of bandwidth, for use in case of elaborate ddos, but i have not tried it)
asciilifeform: the unfortunate thing is that nfs co. is quite useless for most of the purposes of most folx here.
asciilifeform: no persistent unix processes permitted.
Framedragger: (scriba failing to self-up - checking)
Framedragger: (*ah*, that separate "UP" in deedbot's msg)
asciilifeform: also ben_vulpes may be right, i do not know if the proper name for what nfs co does is 'vps'.
asciilifeform: it is more barbaric, even, than vps.
ben_vulpes: shared hosting, traditionally, no? but what else is a vps but shared hosting
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it is closer to vps, actually, you get an ssh login and a thing that superficially resembles an actual linux box from inside said ssh
asciilifeform: (rather than a proprietary crapolade uploader, or ftp, as typical in ye olde 'shared host')
asciilifeform: but of course it is emulated, and is expected to not hog the cpu.
ben_vulpes: wacky
ben_vulpes: i don't want to think about that
asciilifeform: afaik unique.
ben_vulpes: possibly lxc-alike per ssh conn?
asciilifeform: i do not in fact know the exact mechanism.
asciilifeform: whatever it is, had to have been around in '07.
asciilifeform: and earlier.
asciilifeform: for all i know, they wrote from scratch.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you get a postgres process tho. by ticking a box in the www acct panel; it then magically appears in your pseudolinux.
Framedragger: (k fixd)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: pretty nifty!
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it suffers -- besides the obvious minuses described earlier -- from the martian problem. i.e. if it ever dies, there is no ready replacement
asciilifeform: wholly custom, made by perhaps long-dead gnomes.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: whoa a whole process? not a connection?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we are speaking of simulacra. i have nfi if it is physically a 'whole' process.
asciilifeform: certainly nobody ought to suffer any delusion of crypto-isolation, when buying vpsolade.
ben_vulpes: spooky
asciilifeform: the thing is hyper-optimized for hosting well-ddosed blogs. and specifically ones running on 1990s-style software, where the cpu is idle except when somebody is actually loading a page. but other than that imposes no restrictions on proggies you run, last i saw you even had gcc in there, could build own, run.
asciilifeform: i set up a lisp in there once, even (i forget which, may have been clisp) but it was a pain, whole process had to be born when page is loaded, and promptly die
mircea_popescu: in other news, mp takes girl to picnic at neighbourhood park, she goes naked, within 15 minutes there's half a dozen local cops around the blanket being all concerned.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is that even a ticketable offense in mircea_popesculandia ?
asciilifeform: ( in usa it is just short of armed robbery , afaik, though ianal )
mircea_popescu: i didn't get a ticket for it.
mircea_popescu: but apparently TEH WOMEN complained.
asciilifeform: who ELSE could've possibly complained lel
mircea_popescu: anyway, to my eye the amusing thing is that if you get a nude hottie out in the open, what'll happen is the half dozen boys that'll dare approach will a) be symbolically protected by their magical uniform garb and b) ask for the perturbation in the force be removed OH PLEASE GOD MAKE IT GO AWAY.
mircea_popescu: somewhat at odds with the public imagination of you know, gangrape-till-daybreak (if imaginer is female) or else "they'll start zombieing around with beers, eventually some dude will try to make money renting folding chairs, that sorta thing".
mircea_popescu: anyway, it was lulzy, "let's see your papers" "well i don't carry them" "why not ?" "the embassy told me not to because i'll get robbed." "oh".
mircea_popescu: apparently they're very enamoured with the idea that you get robbed here. nfi why. i guess it keeps them in jobs.
asciilifeform: here in northern monkeystan 'no papers' is a guaranteed trip to the station.
mircea_popescu: i suspect everyone in the field just HAD to come over to see this wonder. i'm guessing they literally never heard of such before.
mircea_popescu: anyway. sarge explained to me that it's not done here. and also wanted to know if i "consume"
mircea_popescu: which i deduce is their slang for smoking pot.
mircea_popescu: because, he points out, also not to be done in public.
ben_vulpes: what, he wasn't going to offer you one for the privilege of staring at your babe?
mircea_popescu: i think he was married. there was a very hot and bothared youth. he made it first.
mircea_popescu: i imagine he ran. also i don't imagine he got any this year.
mircea_popescu: "omg she was completely naked!!1"
mircea_popescu: was trying to get phones from the people around "for evidence".
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: how would that work
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. he never heard of tumblr i guess ?
diana_coman: that sounds close enough/toward the "make money renting folding chairs" though, doesn't it?
diana_coman: the"evidence"
asciilifeform: presumption being that they took photos, of the 'crime scene'..?
mircea_popescu: yep, quite exactly diana_coman
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well... considering what's on youtube, i wouldn't be surprised if they had.
diana_coman: so perhaps not that much at odds after all; re the female imagined part, I suspect that has more to do with fact that ... "what'll happen" depends on who gets her out
mircea_popescu: eh. no way in fuck anyone walks up to a naked woman and talks to her.
mircea_popescu: they can't do it even when dressed.
diana_coman: what, no "gipsy" anywhere?
mircea_popescu: hm ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1630979 << omaigerd stop dribbling them out!!1☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:38 asciilifeform: meanwhile, ACHTUNG s.nsa customers! moar FUCKGOATS shipped today. see your invoice www pg to learn if yours was in this batch.
diana_coman: back in Ro, in my experience gipsies had fewer if any such troubles re speaking to women, naked or not; they were quite cowards (i.e. if someone took them to task/seemed powerful around they would retreat) but otherwise not suffering from much anxiety re the interaction itself
mircea_popescu: and fuck me i'm not reading that ctrlc.hu marmalade. "after years of marmalade im done"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman no gypsies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you missed nothing.
asciilifeform: thing is entirely summarized in the log.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631037 << must be recalling with arse neurons.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 21:44 fd_travel: i recall checking deedbot's and a111's IPs (digitalocean etc), but hey, if it worx.
trinque: !#s from:trinque datacenter
a111: 3 results for "from:trinque datacenter", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Atrinque%20datacenter
trinque: starting to tire of this kid's sideways manner of talking.
trinque: ftr, all trb downloads come from a dedicated deeds box I've been happy to run as core infrastructure pro bono.
trinque: those downloads of deeds are coming from my pipe, not "our VPS"
ben_vulpes: this leaves i believe phf's wintermute, with its once-decade of uptime
trinque: strike that, all trb deps mod6 deeded; he is hosting the V stuff.
trinque: and understand, outside of the L1, your opinion on how infrastructure is run is worth nothing, and your "everyone does X, so I can" construction makes you sound like a bed-wetter.
mod6: <+trinque> strike that, all trb deps mod6 deeded; he is hosting the V stuff. << fwiw it's also posted to the ML which is on some other environment.
ben_vulpes: in entirely others topics, gentoo quest ppc edition has stumbled on step boot-from-usb
ben_vulpes: so i have procured OPTICAL MEDIA
trinque: mod6: I'm quite happy to host anything that supports trb work
trinque: ben_vulpes: there's some txbi thing in openfirmware
trinque: buncha weird slashes and nonsense spells
mod6: also, I think the idea of deedifying my version of V is also worthwhile... I think I've simply been waiting for it to satisfy the constraints before creating a genesis. Once that's created, then I'd say it'd be worthy of freezing.
trinque: ben_vulpes: https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/macppc/INSTALL.macppc << I want to say the device comes up as "ud" for USB... sometimes
ben_vulpes: yeah i got into open firmware, attempted booting from all usb options
trinque: not that you're doing obsd, but the docs there are helpful
ben_vulpes: sans incantations because i had no idea which would take
ben_vulpes: optical media is a go, though.
trinque: sweet
ben_vulpes: thing showed up with a fresh 10.4 install
ben_vulpes sighs a sigh for the days gone by
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is this one of those boxes that had liquid cooler standard ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: negative
asciilifeform: ( iirc the quad core one, had )
ben_vulpes: i've yet to lay hands on a qc
asciilifeform: was the last 'serious' crapple
asciilifeform: (i.e. not a repainted wintel box, but actual exotica)
asciilifeform: http://s3.postimg.org/qonfcus43/G5_Dual_LCU.jpg << subj.
ben_vulpes: huh
ben_vulpes: i don't think i want watercooled irreplaceable computronium
Framedragger: trinque: sorry for the noise, man. you're right, of course.
ben_vulpes: "iirc" is fine...provided one r's c
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it wasn't the quad ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't have any quads yet
asciilifeform: aah
ben_vulpes: and if they're water cooled i'll probably pass
trinque: seems like quads are a bit harder to find
ben_vulpes: trinque: probably still in use at graphics hausen
trinque: aha
asciilifeform: if you ever do find -- fill it with fluorinert.
ben_vulpes: this is like a water cooled small plane engine
ben_vulpes: as if the plane weren't stupidly complex enough already, let's bolt another pile of heinous complexity to it as well
asciilifeform had a water-cooled box, with around six litres, for some years. (it ~did~ eventually leak.)
ben_vulpes: it is unavoidable!
ben_vulpes: helicopters are also unconscionably complex devices
asciilifeform: i could picture a water-cooled thing with a very short loop, and good seals (i.e. no expectation of ever being able to disassemble it: welded copper pipes, like your fridge) not leaking.
asciilifeform: at least for few decades.
ben_vulpes: may as well immerse in mineral oil at that point.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc we had this thread
ben_vulpes: right
asciilifeform: konsoomer electronics doesn't much like oil
asciilifeform: (electrolytic caps, in particular)
asciilifeform: you'd have to varnish them, i suspect.
ben_vulpes: the one additional point possibly worth making is that don't run your engines hot if you want them to last.
ben_vulpes: you want to hoon around the parking lot making smoke? buy a drift slut, don't do that to the wrx
ben_vulpes: not only is that terrible for your alignment but if you ever even come close to hitting the rev limiter in a car you want to preserve the value of....
ben_vulpes: heaven help you
asciilifeform: http://www.parallax-tech.com/fluorine.htm << fluorinert peddler in small qrt. asciilifeform has not tried. but entertaining read.
asciilifeform: *qnt.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> in entirely others topics, gentoo quest ppc edition has stumbled on step boot-from-usb << entirely typical of my experience of this wonder.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hvac units leak after about 3 years.
asciilifeform: where, in aerial combat over vietnam ?
mircea_popescu: in commercial deployments.
asciilifeform: even in humble auto, ~0 typically, mine was last filled decade ago.
asciilifeform: and worx.
mircea_popescu: hey. musta not been made in china.
asciilifeform: yea it's a pre-plastic auto.
asciilifeform: among the last.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631002 << terrible idea.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:52 phf: ben_vulpes: i was thinking of wiring in an auto-upper for never seen accounts, but given the quality of ups.. i do wonder, if were to up them "faster" maybe they'll talk better
mircea_popescu: let them fix their problems themselves.
shinohai remembers the Dogecoin chan had this, worked exactly as one would expect .....
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631005 << this is not a bad idea, for eventually.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 20:54 ben_vulpes: "has nick joined and parted within the past week without saying anything after receiving voice?"
ben_vulpes off
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-22#1631052 << part of the problem is eg trilema has i dun recall how many gb of acumulated pix. though i've seen very hardcore text blogs and didn't look so bad.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-22 21:49 asciilifeform: the minus is that it is (yes) in usa, and has very limited support for anything that isn't text www
asciilifeform: i also have a gb or so of pix.
asciilifeform: (not , naturally, as many as trilema.)
mircea_popescu: ah. then non-text www works fine too
asciilifeform: what i meant was, text vs 'apps' or whatever other strange 'modern' crapola
asciilifeform: ( and you couldn't put, e.g., trb in there. )
mircea_popescu: yea
mircea_popescu: course the "apps" are mostly js neh
mircea_popescu: tbh i have nfi how you could run trb in a vps. i don't think it's possible, not really. would be certainly quite the medal of merit on any software that can handle such.
asciilifeform: you couldn't
asciilifeform: nor have i any notion of why to try
asciilifeform: ( it'll be interesting , however, if i ever actually turn 'nqb' into something like a btctron, to see what it'll run on, with the programmable memory footprint and hard-realtime mechanics.. )
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i've spent the last couple evenings since ppc thread re-emerged trying to run openbsd 6 on macppc. can't get the bloody machine to recognise cdrom OR usb. open firmware, boot screen, etc nada zilch zip.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what kind of box was this
pete_dushenski: 2.0ghz dual core with 9600 card. vintage '05 iirc
pete_dushenski: 10.4 installed, 2.5gb ram.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, pete_dushenski , trinque , et al : here's a top from asciilifeform's house of horrors : don't bother selective-booting the things. just yank the drive and put what you want on it ~directly~, then put back.
asciilifeform: i don't recall ever installing gentoo, for instance, any other way
asciilifeform: *a tip from
pete_dushenski: myea, that's next step for sure. was trying to configure dual boot for no other reason than that i like the idea of 10.4 in the house. but that's probably a lost cause. there's only so much time to dump into the sinkhole.
asciilifeform: if the box eats reasonably ordinary (e.g. sata) disks, rather than, say, differential scsi (sgi, sun) or archaic ???s (symbolics 36xx, others) -- even easier.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: lolwhy
asciilifeform: 10.4 iirc was a bitch
pete_dushenski: nostalgia has no whys
asciilifeform: nostalgia --> os9
asciilifeform: btw maybe pete_dushenski can tell me the seekrit of how to get 'lombard' to eat an ssd.
asciilifeform: i tried five different ones, incl. compactflash adapters, no dice.
asciilifeform: thing gathers dust nao.
phf: pretty sure it won't, i even read a reason for it, but don't recall what it is anymore
pete_dushenski: powerbook g3 ? thought those were nifty as a kid but i was still on desktops at the time. brief foray into laptopery didn't come until college in 04
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: yea, them
asciilifeform: phf: interesting, if you ever remember what it was, lemme know plz
asciilifeform: i tried same disk i used (successfully) in 'libretto 100ct', still 0 result.
asciilifeform: standard, you'd think, pata. but nope.
asciilifeform: box won't see it.
phf: "standard"
mircea_popescu: standard pata :D
mircea_popescu: "this is a standard ibm pc at clone"
asciilifeform: hey there was actually a standard.
mircea_popescu: "standard in which way ?" "that's unspecified."
asciilifeform: with timings & all.
asciilifeform: (ssd pata disks work fine in dos boxes, etc)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: have you tried https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro with the lombard ? 'ide/ata design'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: not that particular one, no.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i don't even see any mention of g3 lappy on the vendor's www
PeterL: asciilifeform: is your gentoo recipe published somewhere? I tried searching the logs, but all I found was an expired dpaste?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc/powerbook << not listed.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: aha nvm. that owc drive works with pismo
pete_dushenski: not other g3 powerbooks tho
asciilifeform: PeterL: https://archive.is/VA3ov
asciilifeform: PeterL: ^ that's all there ever was to it
PeterL: ok, thanks!
asciilifeform: PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-11#1601534 << example kernel config☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 18:45 asciilifeform: phf: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/4_1_15_stas.txt
asciilifeform: from same.
phf: i ended up running openbsd on that box
asciilifeform: phf: how did that go ?
asciilifeform still has a 'libretto' with openbsd
phf: everything just works
phf: i think the only thing i haven't tried yet is the stylus, which doesn't work if you just startx. i vaguely suspect there's a second mouse device i need to wire into the right place..
asciilifeform: incl. x11 emacs sans dbus ?
asciilifeform: ( was where i ran out of stamina )
asciilifeform: phf: the wacom ? it's a 2nd mouse, aha
phf: please refer to yesterday's thread re emacs :D
mircea_popescu: lmao
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-20#1436604 << was even tested!111☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-03-20 13:54 mircea_popescu: phf> ok, not sure if anybody tried yet, but asciilifeform's gentoo chicken works as prescribed << it does, yes, and it IS a very good and useful thing. almost makes me feel bad when mocking linuxen.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 16gb 1.8" sandisk seems to work https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/15077-possibly-the-quickest-drive-for-the-powerbook-g3/ perhaps larger capacities too.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: on examination it turns out the box is a 'wallstreet'
asciilifeform: not a 'lombard'.
pete_dushenski: lolk
asciilifeform: and i have literally that disk here, in the tray, 0 result.
pete_dushenski: i give up