mircea_popescu: lol! dat "he got everything wrong but the subject is interesting".
phf: well, i suspect he's got his facts right, but the commentary is dodgy
mircea_popescu: like "fish, delicious and healthy!" label on a caserole in the discount yesterday's icebox.
pete_dushenski: or sign on car rotting on mechanic's lot : "needs work to get running but a smooth driver!"
phf: look, the margins are thin and the fish gotta go, you buying or what
phf: is buenos aires like istanbul, street cat culture?
mircea_popescu: not quite, lots of dogs being tortured on small terraces, apartments, 3sq feet of concrete behind bars (srsly, pair of dogs, COULDNT EVEN STRETCH OUT!).
phf: somehow makes total sense from all the other argentina points
mircea_popescu: and this nation, that to my knowledge has furthest perfected the art of pointlessly but with extreme callous cruelty torturing man's oldest and best friend, nevertheless considers itself full of dog lovers.
mircea_popescu: they actually say this, "i'm a dog lover". then you meet the dog, and the general effect is "i love kids" guy with a fridge full of kid parts.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm enjoying reading this kalzumeus piece on japanese culture. it's like japan consists of the 1950s mob.
ben_vulpes: oh, it's mckenzie's turn huh? how'd he escape the eye of sauron for so long?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 00:55 mircea_popescu does exactly this on occasion, feeds cats.
mircea_popescu: " about: THOMAS H. PTACEK hopes, by strict attention to business, combined with moderate charges, to merit a fair share of patronage and support."
mircea_popescu: "One’s actual salary as a salaryman is generally rather low — about $100 per year of age per month, as an engineer in Nagoya (set by a particular monopsonistic engineering employer near Nagoya). In Tokyo, my sense of the market is that, as an intermediate engineer in his early thirties, I’d probably command somewhere between $30k and $60k. (In Silicon Valley, the going rate would be somewhere between $120k and $160k and
mircea_popescu: this is like saying that your "sense of the market" indicates that as an intermediate starlet in her 30s you'd probably command between 1 and 3 mn pa because hey, that's what bravo/seveteen/cosmo/whatever said christina applegate was making at some point in 2006 when she was 32 and was doing three different things.
mircea_popescu: except she is "intermediate" among the people actually making money ; not among the people aspiring to be used, which is still not the same as making money. you could just as well say tom cook is an intermediate manager (in the sense that bezos is clearly better and whoever they have at microsoft, that indian fellow, clearly worse), so you figure ten years after getting your degree from ohio state business school you'll be pu
mircea_popescu: "When I met her mother for the first time, I brought my resume and tax returns. Her mother was not 100% keen on the match when we started dating, as a combination of “foreigner” and “not gainfully employed” suggested that I was not exactly marriage material, but I eventually won her over."
mircea_popescu: how does this dude expect to be taken seriously, by anyone, like ever ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck, empowering old women, wtf is this. whatever happened to bitch, if you talk out of line i'll burn you alive.
mod6: yeah, srsly. "here's my tax returns." wat?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 and these are the dorks who go "oh, midwest, flyover zone". really ? flyover zone for what, your ballsac in a sling ?
pete_dushenski: respect for elders in jp folx is like fried chicken for blacks - goes hand-in-hand
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski respect for the elders is predicated upon the stable basis of them elders having earned enough life experience to know better than getting in my way.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: only for values of 'my way' that resolve to mircea_popescu and similar, which'd be rare enough to mostly ignore in jp. or else, sure, in a world where ol' ladies be gettin' torched leftrightandcentre, gramma opens the door for you, not the other way around.
phf: that's what i'm saying though, these are like nifty anthropological studies by very inept anthropologists. you learn more about the author, than...
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski all the warning signs are there. to wit : "(The hypothesis was advanced, more than once, that as a foreigner who routinely travels abroad, speaks Spanish, and has money without any evidence of gainful employment, I was probably a drug dealer. I wish I were joking.)"
mircea_popescu: now, it is true that you don't have to deal drugs to accumulate power ; nor because you accumulated it. but it is supremely unwise to imagine one's not going to crack a few skulls if it comes to it.
pete_dushenski: phf: the authors aren't highly cultured and esteemed envoys from foreign lands, they're just... regular blokes.
mircea_popescu: would you think an elder who ineptly harasses a drug dealer is particularly respectable ?
pete_dushenski: ofc not, so 'drug dealer' is obv a snide remark, not actually positied theory
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ?
☟︎☟︎☟︎ pete_dushenski: apparently the 'big city' of tokyo or wherever isn't part of the jp where triads ARE the law, financiers, drug dealers, etc etc.
phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
☟︎ mircea_popescu notes for the record that in 1916, man considering the mitzvah of accepting a cunt in his household was given money, and no insignificant portion thereof, by the ever-delighted parents.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck these "men" have managed to turn that into the above quote in one short century is anyone's guess.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: this hasn't changed in 100 years, but still depends ~where~ we're discussing.
pete_dushenski: father-in-laws can be, and in my fortunate experience are, still grateful sobs
mircea_popescu: one time, the dad of this chick (/me is very old school, always insisted in meeting the parents of all molls) asked me if i have serious intentions. so i asked him if she's a virgin.
pete_dushenski guesses that quantity of honey depends on the degree of f-i-l's personal means, how many girls he's burdened with, and how much of a stud the s-i-l is.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol. good comeback. and yes, gotta meet parents, ideally even before formal courtship begins or else within first two weeks of commencement.
mircea_popescu: here, too, on coupla of occasion took girl over sunday noon that i had met saturday night at bdsm club no less. resulting in some appropriately spooked parents.
pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i thought you lived in something that passes for urban center in the frozen wastes ?
pete_dushenski: this is where i sheepishly admit that there could be one across the street but that i've not yet encountered anyone who's admitted to knowledge of its whereabouts. though given that 'edmonton ab' showed up on a few of the fetlife meatlist, you sorta have to figure there must be ~something~ of the sort in a town >1mn pop.
mircea_popescu: a munch is generally just dicking around a food court, child safe sort of events.
mircea_popescu: course seems the last for the year was o wait, you have one on 14th.
mircea_popescu: this tiny may bug like creature is having the time of its life over on the db in jp monitor. i've never seen one so happy.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: am i nuts or something ? wtf "I think Fizz-Buzz is "hard" for some programmers because (#1) it doesn't fit into any of the patterns that were given to them in school assignments, and (#2) it isn't possible to directly and simply represent the necessary tests, without duplication, in just about any commonly-used modern programming language." (as per
http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest )
mircea_popescu: one of these is going to turn out to be whatever supersecret bullshit someone put online because idiots and everyone's going to lose their shit.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 02:30 mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.
mircea_popescu: but what i specifically take issue with is the claim that "There is no clear way in any languages". what the heck ?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform should probably poop more often
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:47 phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
mircea_popescu: holy shit! the page itself claims there is a simple structure... BUt ONLY FOR LISP
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit, "use separate variable, test the number test variable if empty" can be written in fucking bash.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:55 pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:58 asciilifeform: (at a recent hellhole where asciilifeform worked, they marched in folx with perfect marks, many magister degrees in 'sciences', etc., who COULD NOT PROGRAM)
mircea_popescu: srsly now. can they stock their pantry, these people ?
ben_vulpes: us degrees are worse than worthless, they're an actual burden. holders generally have such an inflated opinion of themselves and blown up cashflow needs due to student loans they're nigh unemployable.
ben_vulpes: and the old folks who bear them, occasionally as well.
ben_vulpes: the lifetime of coddling doesn't make managing them any easier either.
mircea_popescu: old folks as in bio age i usually have an easy enough time with ; young folks who aspire to be employed however are aged beyond their age, like touched by the fucking vorlons.
mircea_popescu: i actually told a 29 yo "i know a guy who's 92 and a lot more flexible than you".
mircea_popescu: well no, i've never had the pleasure of hiring for the army.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (i suspect we may be talking at cross purposes)
mircea_popescu: ah. the inflexible 29 yo had this very obnoxious penchant for trying to restate any problem in specific terms as per his textbook.
mircea_popescu: needless to say this produced "correct" responses through the insufferable avenue of missing out on the problem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: from what i heard from all other shops, they do. it's like asking why has superluminous tachyon decided to bless your apparatus.
mircea_popescu: "For example, when I first came to Japan, I had no computer. I also had no money, because the plane ticket and setting up my household ate all of my savings. In America, this isn’t a barrier to getting a computer, because Dell will do a quick FICO score on you and then happily extend you $2,000 of trade credit."
mircea_popescu: for the love of all that's holy. who does this ? WHO ?
mircea_popescu: the approximate equivalent of "umm... hi fortified city, here is my siege. i... uhhh... i ate all the horses on the way over. and burned the trebuchets. surrender now ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was living under the impression that i am reading the faits d'armes of adule male. for some reason.
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-08#1579712 << there is yet no futures market principally because agreement among the major players keeps the prices stable. the reasonings through which that agreement is distilled however are getting ever more complex ; this yet holds because everyone involved has a brain the size of staten island and can mostly follow the intricacies + a patience the size of a larger planet's ice caps, so they
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 13:02 Framedragger: diana_coman: ah, good idea, thanks :)
mircea_popescu: do follow. neither of these are likely to hold long term and moreover complexity ever increases, so i expect they'll emerge next year or so.
mircea_popescu: ickiness in economics not just price stickiness, and esp in chaotic situations it's actually a stronger effect.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 16:59 asciilifeform: well yes, you blame the d00d who actually worked you to the bone
mircea_popescu: this inadherence to modernism is why russia was modernised via socialism/soviets, not via capitalism/industrialism.
mircea_popescu: so no, the peasant didn't blame the boyar because the boyar did something. the peasant doesn't care about that (nor was the doing actually verifiable as such, nor did it likely happen rather than the opposite). the peasant blame the boyar because the boyar was the wrong thing, a do-er rather than an is-er.
mircea_popescu: and which is why the "golden toilet" device is so important in trying to sell modernism to traditionalist societies - the point is to show optionality in the desired public enemy.
mircea_popescu: it directly mirrors the biblical understanding (god was ; and lucifer did) and very much explains why "patriotic war" and "peace keeping" and "Defending" and etcetera. the narrative always is "we - were ; enemy - did ; we - shall be again".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this very much because contrary to pretense commonly shared and widely held, modernism was never more than a superficial paint coat over things.
mircea_popescu: there's no practical way in which anything can reduce to "doing". even in software.
mircea_popescu: (also why so many of the moribund modernist world take refuge in "coding" as they understand it rather than much more obviously productive, satisfiying and accessible venues)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 15:19 mircea_popescu: cat iplist.txt | while read ip; do curl -A "blabla" "
http://$ip/" > results.txt; done
Framedragger: (~545 boxes out of 1319 phuctored respond to
http - only the ones that do are in there.)
Framedragger will try to find time to tie up some loose ends (log, ssh banners in nice format, etc)
deedbot: goldfinger voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: you know you're no longer legally allowed to use pgp in that jurisdiction yea ?
Framedragger: +/- that, plus hacking into shit will become commonplace police practice (eh who am i kidding and being naive about, they're simply 'streamlining' all that in the judicial sense..)
goldfinger: How come I am voiced for only 30 minutes?
mircea_popescu: shinohai something something police powers something something we think we exist something something
mircea_popescu: goldfinger the better question is why should you be voiced at all. who're you ?
shinohai: "But officer, I use `GPG` and pgp!"
Framedragger: shinohai: investigatory powers act if you want keywords
Framedragger: goldfinger: constraints stimulate creativity, it's like haiku
goldfinger: and i noticed i connected with some nodes that reported (protocol)verison 99999
goldfinger: yeah, so i thought, who the hell are these people that start counting their version number downwards
shinohai: Mine actually is set to v99995
mircea_popescu: yeah pretty sure that's how that came to be, someone mentioned knuth's freezing and it flew.
Framedragger: it's a small terrorist republic, but i'll leave it to mr. MP
mircea_popescu: the most serene republic is a terrorist organisation dedicated to the violent destruction of all fiat constructions, from states on.
mircea_popescu: also the enslavement of the general population, murder, rape, arson and jaywalking.
☟︎☟︎ goldfinger: i started writing a bitcoin client in C#
shinohai: I am the most preeminent jaywalker in the Republic
goldfinger: Btw, PGP is really illegal in england?
goldfinger: they banned all end to end encryption?
mircea_popescu: ironically, this shows pki for instance ISNT encryption. but we digress.
Framedragger: well, its status is prolly still unclear. but basically current govt doesn't really take to end to end encryption, in a more serious manner than previous govts; or at least this one managed to push things forward a bit
mircea_popescu: we should get our key registered with the deedbot and read up the topic / do something useful with ourselves.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 16:00 Framedragger: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING A REPUBLIC
shinohai: That was my favorite Framedragger bashism of all time.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Isaiah 45:7 :: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 12:14 mircea_popescu: it directly mirrors the biblical understanding (god was ; and lucifer did) and very much explains why "patriotic war" and "peace keeping" and "Defending" and etcetera. the narrative always is "we - were ; enemy - did ; we - shall be again".
mircea_popescu: yes well, the understanding of the bible and the text of the bible are separable concerns.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Proverbs 3:5 :: Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 12:51 mircea_popescu: also the enslavement of the general population, murder, rape, arson and jaywalking.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry - i must've meant also the enslavement of the general population, murder, rape, arson and misrepresentation.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: like, everything on a single page (or some iframe or js thing)?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:43 pete_dushenski: ofc not, so 'drug dealer' is obv a snide remark, not actually positied theory
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:06 asciilifeform: 'Plagiarize !! Let no one else's work evade your eyes ! Remember why the good Lord made your eyes ! So don't shade your eyes !' (tm) (r) (tom lehrer)
mircea_popescu: reviewing yest log for articlization i realise we'll probably not see pete_dushenski anymore ; he may or may not return in two week's time as a dessicated airfoil to say his goodbyes to his former club, pre burial in an cremation urn.
mod6: <+goldfinger> and i noticed i connected with some nodes that reported (protocol)verison 99999 << someone saw us on the tubes. hai!
mircea_popescu: argument could probably be leveled C# more respectable than C++
scriba: Number of URLs seen since bot startup: 350; number of URLs newly archived: 342.
scriba: Hello, world! My uptime is 2 days, 19:01:39.
Framedragger: ^ when it reconnects, the counters start from 0 again
Framedragger: well it _could_ have permanent storage, *in principle*.. and one could even reconstruct the past counters from logs which are saved
trinque: who are these people who *want* to be warehoused in plastic bins packed like a damned beehive
trinque: please, I cannot feel at home unless I hear other losers fuck / take a shit / etc
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 442673 | Current Difficulty: 2.867657668205504E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 443519 | Next Difficulty In: 846 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
trinque: these "intentional community" things exist though
a111: Logged on 2016-10-25 21:55 mircea_popescu: she's a poor chick in colombia, what do you want her to think ?
mircea_popescu: trinque at least if they did it publicly, you know, "this is the kitchen, the women and girly men cook here ; and this is the fuck room, where we make the children".
trinque: a world with different places, how alien
trinque also wonders what she was listening to
trinque: speaking of speaking only mudlang (and a small amount of spanishmudlang), if anyone else is slogging through latin, the app memrise has decent flash cards under the "GCSE" set
trinque: mircea_popescu: was insulting english and saying there's an appthing to walk around with practicing latin, with which I'm starting before taking on any other romance lang
mircea_popescu: for some reason mud- welded in my head to conlangs/muds and wouldn't let go.
Framedragger: "hey dude, nice work on semantics, btw your box is fucked"
mircea_popescu: trinque the method i recommend, if you care, is to work selections of classical texts with the dictionary ; then proceed to answer any systematic questions you have when you're sick of the slog.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there were some decent programs catering to this approach at us unis too, perseus at tufts for eg.
scriba: Number of URLs seen since bot startup: 363; number of URLs newly archived: 355.
trinque: Framedragger: is there a list somewhere ?
trinque: ah thanks very much; I'll use that to practice
mircea_popescu: it's like the perl ofall languages, actively breaks the head. EVERYTHING they do is wrong.
mircea_popescu: solve the wrong problems by vocabulary, you name it they got it.
trinque: todd really is the worst name, isn't it
mircea_popescu: Framedragger go by their office for a b2b proposal, show them chatlog ?
trinque: asciilifeform: I guess that was a cooler todd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. why i didn't say anything re your curl earlier. will have to be run periodically lol
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: huh not the worst idea! i'll see if i can arrange when i'm back for christmas week after next :P
mircea_popescu: lmao i just noticed i said "martial is a good starting point, his english is".
Framedragger: prolly need to build a pipeline for postprocessing all phuctor finds....
trinque: could be router out front with ssh, www port forwarded?
Framedragger: or windows admin running ssh server so he can actually get work done :p
mircea_popescu: (about two thirds of the devs think they are updating, about one third of boxes do get updated)
Framedragger: ssh host key not automatically regenned upon upgarde, is it
mircea_popescu: it was said at the time that the breach is unfixable, because it requires regeneration of keys.
mircea_popescu: it is marginalyl funny just how happy to break everyone's processes these schmucks are to introduce, eg, mandatory-unicode-via-python-3 but how suddenly waxy-poetic and careful they are when it comes to user security.
mircea_popescu: forcing key regeneration on update was the right move there.
mircea_popescu: just as allowing python-3 out of experimental was the wrong move.
mircea_popescu: sure but what's that to do with anything ? "on my car which has an engine, adjusting the intake valves does things" "he's got a bycicle!"
mircea_popescu: nobody, and certainly not me, prevented python people from moving to sane data structures or anything.
mircea_popescu: if you are stewarding an apple tree, you'll fucking deliver apples till the day you die ; you do not come up with a way to make the apple tree make shitty plums.
mircea_popescu: this "modernisation and progress is the destruction of items by people who didn't like them in the first place" nonsense is pretty far out there.
mircea_popescu: if they didn't want to play in the character=byte garden they're more thanwelcome to go learn lisp.
mircea_popescu: just like the fucktards who don't like bitcoin aren't permitted to "upgrade it" ; they have to go do ethereum or whatever the fuck doge ripple solidcoin bullshitcoin they do.
ben_vulpes: you teed it up nicely, didn't take much more.
ben_vulpes: only grabs the ip list at the beginning of run, doesn't have any provisions for restart.
ben_vulpes: i think the major time wastage in it are the curl calls without timeout
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 15:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the things to scan, that very often are found: 80 (
http), 443 (ssl), and if either found, the page; if ssl -- the cert id strings (see l0gz for how) , and lastly, ftp (yes, believe or now) and telnet greetings.
ben_vulpes: i'll take a look at where it is in the list of phucked ips later and make a call as to whether its worthwhile to kill it and start over
ben_vulpes: no i get it, your turbine sees a lot of flow, and has an efficiency of less than one percent
ben_vulpes: in other lols child apparently has muscle and coordination for rubber band play
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-09#1580179 << goes back to tmsr compiling things. instead of the obvious conclusion "most applicants don't know how to program and most interviewers don't know how to interview" you get insanity "this problem is a special problem!!1"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 02:37 mircea_popescu: but what i specifically take issue with is the claim that "There is no clear way in any languages". what the heck ?
mircea_popescu: phf ikr ? but for my peace of mind, it's about as special as apricot's a special fruit, right ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 17:28 mircea_popescu: there are a number of reasons for this. 1. robots eat electricity ; humans eat a sort of oil derivate ; see
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577962 ; 2. robots are an industrial product, this costs ~nothing while "well brainwashed humans" are the equivalent of a "well behaved wife". tell you what, here's a half billion girlies in your "civilised world", you have a week to find a wife. let me know what you spent.
mircea_popescu: "find a wife, you have a week, let me know what you spent".
mircea_popescu: as in eg, king has seven sons, who shall inherit the throne.
mircea_popescu: "here's a dull knife and a ballsac sling, bring a bear."
mircea_popescu: well the idiocy of wall lite needs no further expounding.
phf: i've been asking people to implement StringIO/StringBuilder/string-output-stream pattern. my original thinking was that while totally self contained problem it's a nice segue into gc, memory/runtime tradeoffs, threading, etc. just a baseline "are we on the same page" phone screening. i've went through about 35 "send us your resume" people and none of them could do it :o
phf: literally nobody can tell me what the potential downsides of `for i in xrange(1000000): a += "foo"` are
phf: one guy ("10 years of unix experience") canceled the screening because i told him he'll have to ssh into a shared screen and i'll ask him some questions
trinque: python went around claiming easy foar noob; you expect random python guy to think about what's happening at any level below "muh python code" ?
trinque: it's like smooshing moar string on what
phf: a shared online webpad bullshit they get, "ssh into my box so you can have a sane editor" they start freaking out
phf: asciilifeform: yeap same excuse!
trinque: "whore, your whole purpose here will be to do tricks"
trinque: hiring only works through wot, formal or meat-implemented, and the "I will create an arena and find humans" really only works well if the whole society is the arena.
ben_vulpes: someone once wanted me to code in a google doc
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: nice. re. curl timeouts, yeah you need them, otherwise it'll hand for a long time on some of those IPs (i saw this) :)
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: d'you know what the default curl timeout is offhand?
trinque: did it barf any headers before doing that?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 15:41 asciilifeform: sshello=`timeout -k 0m 3s nc $ip 22`;
phf: ben_vulpes: that's sop now. i sort of go for interviewes every month or so to see what's out there, etc. and the past two years i had a lot of
http://collabedit.com screenings
Framedragger: trinque: by default it shows how long it sits, but that's about it, by default no headers etc
ben_vulpes: phf: i'd rather see someone use the editor they already have set up to attack problems in the domain for which they're under consideration for hiring
phf: one place (outsourced quants) brought out three laptops and asked me which environment i prefered, i thought that was pretty classy. (they had a really wide range, because every time someone said something obscure, they'd put it on the machine. like the linux box had emacs, with a lot of package preloaded and reasonably configured, mac box had intellij and such)
trinque: Framedragger: would've been interesting to see if it was some kind of misconfigured long-polling HTTP situation or what
phf: but their screening was half hour collabedit and the entirety of it was "here's a problem, now hack, ok half hour's up"
trinque: dunno if "what can you do with our configured work env" is very interesting
trinque: whether I can code without access to *my* emacs tells someone very little about what I can do with it
☟︎ phf: it was helloworld, but randomized out of a hat. i think it was a number theoretical problem, like here's a property of a number, write a check for that property
Framedragger: trinque: yeah, hm. i've seen more than one instance on that. i see what you mean. it was basically a case of, from what i gathered, "data sent; waiting for response; not a single byte sent back by server". either because server wasn't
http, or some "hang forever, fucker" anti-DoS measure..
phf: this is for generic programming but with "maths" involved (i has some background in instrument pricing)
trinque: right, packet drop vs rst or w/e
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 03:06 mircea_popescu: needless to say this produced "correct" responses through the insufferable avenue of missing out on the problem.
trinque had an interview at 19 with an ex-msft guy who was later his CEO
trinque: guy screamed at me the whole time asking logic riddles
trinque: wouldn't it be more interesting to give them a problem that implies they know asm ? i.e. there is a robotic arm in a factory, RISC processor, here are the motions it should perform at these intervals
trinque: write controlling code, come back in a week or w/e
trinque: point is projects as evaluations rather than that kind of baseline shit
phf: asciilifeform: right, my point is that there are two separate steps. "filter out" and then "test skillz"
trinque: so I know how to shift a register, what
trinque had a job which involved sniffing / mangling packets; task to get hired was to write a parser for yahoo IM
trinque: the code I produced ended up in the actual product
phf: trinque: did they pay you for it? ;)
Framedragger: ( yeah, SV is web scale but SV interviews are not :D )
trinque: I said I was 19; that's light abuse !
trinque: asciilifeform: the job was also in my wot
phf: asciilifeform: i feel like that point is long past. i mean, in early 2000s you could get away with that. now if person can produce code ~that you can actually use~ you hire them on the spot, make them the cto :D
trinque: I guess this guy was oldfag 90s, figured I was the candidate, and that was more of an initiation rite than filter
trinque: pretty sad that today that guy would be sued over that interview.
phf: those playing cards always give me glimpses of some deep forgotten childhood
phf: card works as good as chinese caliper. cut to GOST 7114-54 within +-0.7mm of allowed error margin.
phf: i know mitutoyo, but the joke doesn't quite work with a jp company. "honorable datskovskiy san received boxes 1 through 5 with replica card prints cut to 0.1mm, 0.2mm, 0.3mm, 0.5mm and 0.7mm allowed error margins, that mitutoyo san found presumptuous to include with own humble compliments"
trinque: I've seen mine on that same site before, but no longer.
trinque: wait, strike that, reverse it
phf: did wotpaste change urls?
trinque: both work, but he's moving to that one
phf: ben_vulpes: fyi wotpaste help in "How?" still uses old url
ben_vulpes: "fixed peering" as in "connect to these and only these IPs"?
a111: Logged on 2016-01-20 02:05 asciilifeform: so i will review, for the benefit of non-panzers, the current state
phf: ben_vulpes: connect to these and only these is a trivial change, since the logic all sits within 30 lines of code, but ^
phf: i have a patch that i'm working on that might help towards that goal
phf: right, trivial as specified, unrelated to shooting self at foot
phf: su strategy of "assume this self-appendectomy guide is written for leonid rogozov, ignore 80% mortality rate from application"
phf: sshh it'll start that thread that you had with mp again
ben_vulpes: anyone have a node at hand, care to share what height you're at?
jhvh1: shinohai: {"blockcount":442711}
ben_vulpes: fuckin weird, 'cause their webpage does not report that
trinque waiting for deedbutt to fart an answer
trinque: no, just some guy thought the API should block when it's doing *anything*
ben_vulpes: note the barf that got mimi kicked off for flooding
shinohai: blockchain.info website only shows 442709 to me xD
trinque avoided adding any kind of rate limiting to the bot code because I have yet to find a straight answer on appropriate rate
trinque: "uh like a second per but not always basically when the receive buffer for you is full but also reasons"
trinque: if the thing ack'd messages even, you could just send then!
ben_vulpes: eh fuggit, drop shit on the floor wcgw
trinque: points to the moral imperative of making war
trinque: server is retarded and people fart around adding hair to their client hairshirts