a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 23:23 danielpbarron:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586263 << i'm trying to get eulora working on some new machines, they came with video cards, official nvidia driver doesn't work on latest linux kernel, (works fine on older kernel) but somehow this is nvidia's fault for not releasing a free fix every time someone comes up with another way to make a driver stop working
mircea_popescu: random fun fact : no matter how you turn the ~50bn worth of us resources & materiel shipped to the allies in ww2 into "present day shitollars", it still doesn't come ANYWHERE NEAR what the defeat in the middle east cost.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the notion that russia was at some point popular in the ukraine is utterly insane. when was this exactly, i don't get it, before or after the muscovy went to space ?
mircea_popescu: you know, the original russians, before the mongols came, flattened them and some random upstarts in some ravine further up north found themselves about in the position of argentina in 1950.
mircea_popescu: well he says ukraine, i don't imagine he means sevastopol.
mircea_popescu: (obviously what he's trying to do is speculate the cluelessness of english speakers, but whatever, we already know the guy's an utter shithead.)
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i mean that if some guy who is actively developing for some iron is shying away from buying a piece because he only has part of the money i'd consider cutting a deal.
mircea_popescu: especially if a) the piece is actually useful as opposed to curio and b) it's being sold for scrap by the imperial idiots.
mircea_popescu: no, i mean the kind of cheap you're talking about, "oh, soy is cheap and gold is expensive". volumes scale, soy is sold in the ton and gold in the ounce. there's no "cheap" ; if it's 20 a pop you bundle 1k together.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes iirc the discussion at the time ended with me pointing out it should be made arbitrary to user's choice. << there was a whole public discussion on this at the time. and at that point, i backed away from it.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and so we are back to the original bitcoinfs. << aha
mod6: <+asciilifeform> the one caveat that i can think of is that it may very well turn out to be unusably slow (as in, >10min block verify), on anything but reiser. (if there even.) << would be great to start experimenting with this in '17
mircea_popescu: tbh, if the "hdd" is correctly constructed (out of ssds, blockchain is the killer problem for ssds) then it should be so fucking fast...
mircea_popescu: and no, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with "buy 64 ssd drives and raid them".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but a raid controller that is made-for-our-purpose, and part of the whole stack all the way to db...
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 got al ink ? << i'll dig it up once im caught up here...
mod6: ok here's one part:
a111: Logged on 2015-06-24 18:31 mod6: ascii_field: re: checkpoints: the patch worked fine to remove checkpoints, but it was tabled for the time being. the main discussion around this was that it could be helpful to hvae checkpoints in there to prevent spamming of blocks from timestamps before a checkpoint.
mod6: and it kinda continues from there, so worth a bit of a read
mod6: also, iirc around the same time there was much ado about the wedge @ 168`001 or whatever it was... but that turned out to be the database locking issue.
mircea_popescu: mod6 that "separate config file" references what i recall as a previous discussion.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 that "separate config file" references what i recall as a previous discussion. << aha, now i recall. I think the suggestion was that one could, from a config file, turn checkpoints on or off, or add new ones if they wished.
mod6: lemme see if I can dig that part up too.
mircea_popescu: well, it was more like "should be exposed to user, WHAT checkpoint to use". ie same as here.
mod6: yeah. ok, it merits a ticket in the project.
mircea_popescu: prolly mature enough by now i guess. anyway shouldn't be a huge thing.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586446 << i think you mentioned before, but you had some sikrit hardware raid that you were reasonably happy with? i've been doing some cleanup on my data, throwing out old usb drives and such, i've been meaning to replace software raid (which is ... spotty) with something that i don't have to think about
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 02:03 asciilifeform uses ssd raid
mod6: !%a trb F "Configure Checkpoints by Configuration File" "Allow for a user to set a given checkpoint within a configuration file. See discussion: btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586436"
tb0t: Project: trb, ID: 34, Type: F, Subject: Configure Checkpoints by Configuration File, Antecedents: , Notes: Allow for a user to set a given checkpoint within a configuration file. See discussion: btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586436
mod6: alright, good enough for the moment.
mod6 is still working on a public/private project-a-tron, making decent progress.
mircea_popescu: dude check them out they deliver 19k mah out of a 100g package.
deedbot: ser voiced for 30 minutes.
ser: Sorry o missed it :)
ser: Ether's a real definition of crap
ser: But he made a fortune
mircea_popescu: i'd be surprised if he made much more than living expenses.
ser: I'm sure he's some ether
ser: Life style category :) :)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> twas on qntra earlier << Nah, shinohai dropped link and loled but no submission was found yet
deedbot: ser voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: "we just can't handle the notion of a space where some people's suckitude is actually a barrier to their self-identification as 'a part of a thing'"
ben_vulpes: not that STEM even is salvageable from the imperial ruins, riddled with nsa stoolies like koch, overfitters like mann and the entirety of 'social sciences'
ben_vulpes: crime 2: isn't this actually evidence that poor hispanics drug their kids more than anything else?
ben_vulpes: (potential) crime 3: 'study' appears to entirely omit 'control group'
ben_vulpes: which puts anyone involved with Nature specifically and US 'STEM' in general in line for the noose
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 22:55 asciilifeform: post log?
trinque: incidentally pete_dushenski, my brother was having the same sort of reaction. in his case, it was tetracycline for acne (you know, instead of being unamerican and laying off the fast food) having nuked his gut flora.
mircea_popescu: btw mod6 ben_vulpes trinque re the whole db/fs etc discussion, anyone recall the symlinks method / proposed tests ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes seems trivial to separate stem from social "sciences", women's "studies" etc. plenty of avenues available, too, like "deny all female access" or "no science without scientific method" or so forth.
davout: if someone is interdasted in buying the balance of 13UUaGK8ZDLxjY7RYu2bKEabqjww2KDyxD by wiring EUR to Bram Molenaar's ICCF lemme know
mircea_popescu: "You like vim? Donate to Bram Molenaar in BTC and help kids in Uganda" da fuck is this then
jurov: davout: i can help. you can't wire eur easily anymore?
davout: mircea_popescu: what about it?
davout: jurov: the less i use my euro stuff the better :D
jurov: davout: on popescuplanet, children are beaten and raped, not being sent money, this is new for you?
mircea_popescu: jurov dude may i just not know everything to the level of l0 cache here for a minute!
davout: mircea_popescu: takes ages to load, i'm 33 and what is this
mircea_popescu: some tardstalk thread where you were trying to support the google / ex-vim's guy charity.
davout: yeah that's me! i recognize that avatar's smug smile
mircea_popescu: i thought it was some gypsy who lost a finger through the unlikely avenue of filling a caravan full of papier-mache flowers and then using gasoline for lube when fucking his 16yo wife.
davout: the goal was "let's have the dude put a BTC address on vim's splash screen directly", which obviously went nowhere
davout: mircea_popescu: could match me too
davout: except for the fingers i guess
mircea_popescu: myeah. if you absolutely want comment i'd point out that wtf "charity", the guy on the ground in uganda isn't even in the wot ; and wtf arrogant google developers shouldn't be entertained, but really there's no problem with trying and whatever.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the actually useful stuff, such as "put the fucking bitcoin address on google's homepage already, you dork!" somehow "accidentally" never fucking happens.
davout: precisely why i wouldn't do it again
mircea_popescu: i'm rather independently VERY soured on "donation" to the idiot parade.
mircea_popescu: other than the openbsd turpitude you may recall the blender idiocy etc.
davout: i remember the openbsd thing but not the blender one
mircea_popescu: i suppose it isn't to be a surprise that in a world where the doctor expects you to pay him for him to do what ~he~ feels ; and the lawyer is strictly shocked that his position as counsel is STRICTLY to do all the legwork you don't feel like doing and absolutely not to do any of the cool management stuff, cuz you're paying and you're gonna be eating that - the charity dudes similarly expect nsa oodlebunches of moneyz
a111: Logged on 2015-06-24 21:05 mircea_popescu: punkman because a) when i first asked, their idea was "buy a mug" ; b) the link i finally fished out did not include any reference either i or fluffypony found (see it in logs) - they have A DIFFERENT unlinked page for this purpose
mircea_popescu: tl;dr : me uses blender for eulora, originally wanted to work with the blender people, and as a "first gesture" sorta thing tried to make a donation. blender people turned out even more batshit insane than anyone could have imagined, which resulted in smg deciding to fork blender and not support their idiotic foundation
mircea_popescu: this a few months before they decided to only support python 3, showing the soundness of that strategic decision.
mircea_popescu: this exactly mirrors me using planeshift code for eulora, did token gesture towards planeshift people, they be EXACTLY as idiotic as blender people in exactly the same way, so as a result /me is having the code refactored and will not work with them
mircea_popescu: and in general this exactly mirrors everything - we tried to work with gpg turns out gpg doesn't want to work, not WITH anyone, it actually does not want to work, at all. ditto for the ssh. ditto for everyone and everything.
mircea_popescu: so technically jurov is right : i'll burn down this uganda and make a new one, fuck 'em. this pretense of independent existence everyone keeps trying to put up is sickening to me.
mircea_popescu: oh yes - chased the freenode idiots for year + back in 2012/2013 trying to give them servers. they - EXACTLY LIKE THESE OTHER IDIOTS - to the fucking t, never got the servers. then a few months later were "suspiociously hacked" and "will publish report" then neverp ublished any report and then went full nsa, which is where we're now.
mircea_popescu: in short, it's not that the stupid whore gets fucked by this bad smelly bully all the time. it's that they're married, and she regularly chooses him. and they'll have to burn together, there's no rescuing to be done in this film.
mircea_popescu: that said, /me wishes teh very best to the actual ugandan children. oppressed as they find themselves under hermetically sealing, thick and numerous layers of dedicatedly-imbecile adults, it'd be a wonder if anything comes of them. but - all the better for all those who do make it in such conditions.
mircea_popescu: and in perhaps unrelated lulz : last year, the romanian supreme court struck down the "because the company filed a criminal complaing against the employee" cause for terminating employment. yeah, you read that right. the reason given was that due to social importance blabla, employment ~must be protected from arbitrary decisions~.
mircea_popescu: which is the whole fucking thing : these people do not want to exist.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> btw mod6 ben_vulpes trinque re the whole db/fs etc discussion, anyone recall the symlinks method / proposed tests ? << yah, im trying to dig this up now actually.
mod6: i think i found it.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 02:04 mircea_popescu: happy bday mod6
mircea_popescu: apparently this is obvious even to the pope of usgistan
mircea_popescu: incidentally - nothing is said about how marc andreesseen had to be rescue-married into old wealth to maintain the pretense of relevancy cca 2006 ; nor how zuckerberg's ~only noteworthy initiative (free basics, trying to turn the third world web into a sort of apple store) utterly failed, rejected EVEN BY INDIA
mircea_popescu: or in general, by the piles and piles and piles of failures of this utterly failed generation.
mircea_popescu: it ~never had a corpse to eat, it sucked its own dick for as long as that lasted.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the latest bit is easily your best piece yet. people generaly hated because yes, throughout the lenghty process you sounded ~like every other jew boy reading the torah for bar mitzvah, ie, ridiculous. but insistence pays off, and now i dun have to groan when reading your stuff, which is a welcome change indeed.
BingoBoingo: Aha, pete_dushenski you now write like a genitle!
mircea_popescu also stumbled on recent comment section reading it, apparently there's a whole debate etc.
pete_dushenski: if you mean the latest mpex debate as referenced in 'what lasts forever', ya the leclerc (pankkake?) feller and i had a little back-n-forth
mircea_popescu: eh get out of there, it's prolly marc andreesseen being all typically-fatso.
pete_dushenski: heh sure why not. but i love when old blog posts still stir the pot. it's even more satisfying than when the hot-off-the-presses sheets light some pubes on fire.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski top 3 on trilema this month consists of something from 2012 and something from 2010 + the internet census. so... yeah.
mircea_popescu: “unpracticed in liberty, unschooled in self control, never sobered by the discipline of self support, never established in any habit of prudence… insolent and aggressive, sick of work, [and] covetous of pleasure.” << heh.
pete_dushenski: trinque: that houston truck looks like it was headed either to or from a gulf refinery. pretty sweet assplosion. and ya, gotta ditch the ff!
pete_dushenski: accordingly, exactly like shakespeare, there are 'movements' to remove wilson from names of ivy league buildings.
pete_dushenski: iirc a mural of him was covered up but name of building stayed.
pete_dushenski: like clarkson's tampons (a reference only ben_vulpes make catch)
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: internet census is right up there eh ? the irony of that one little study making such a dent in a world awash in 'data' and 'research' where n=43 is otherwise sufficient grounds for public policy decisions... never fails to amus.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone said the same thing "holy shit this is detailed".
mircea_popescu: it's not even detailed ; but at least it's not idiocy on the level of nature mag science mag etc.
pete_dushenski: compare and contrast the time inputs too : 4 years x 4 researchers = 12 page report (vs) .0003 years x 2 researchers = 12 page report.
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: (0.0003*2)/(4*4)*100 = 0.00375
pete_dushenski: 0.004% of the time input for the same ~quantity~ of output, nevermind the clearly superior quality, usefulness, applicability to the real world.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 13:32 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is that paste on your binary star ?
mircea_popescu: at which juncture it should probably be reminded to the general public that the pmarca schmuck is ... known, let's say, for one of the first ~web browsers~. ie, the shit soup to end all shit soups, exactly like "spreadsheets" and whatnot except to the power of nine thousand.
mircea_popescu: there isn't any space, or any need, or anything else for these fucktards today anymore than there was in 1996 or in 1976. they know it today like they knew it then, and they're lying about it (to themselves, mostly) then as now because they know that's exactly all they can do. who's gonna hire pmarca ? to do what ? who has a job for zuck ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so listen, the important thing here is, have you managed to reproduce the "blackhole" in an isolated system ?
ben_vulpes: is there intuition about whether blackholes are attacks or retarded clients?
mircea_popescu: but in general there is no such thing as an unwanted pregnancy. for the attack to exist, the client has to be "retarded".
ben_vulpes: but i mean blackholing as artifact of some other poorly written client, instead of script opening sockets to trb nodes
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've been rereading period warnings about myself, it's been rather pleasant.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 19:04 mircea_popescu: we have no definitive answer on this.
mircea_popescu: yes but this doesn't answer if the idiocy is naturally ocurring so much
mircea_popescu: anyway. like you said, seems pretty credible parallelizing will fix this./
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, bitcoin 2.0 has no room for this serial nonsense.
mircea_popescu: to think the dork actually claimed he is "slightly more productive on linux than windows". satoshi never fucking as much as saw a posix compliant box.
ben_vulpes: might be interesting to patch trb to dump relevant connection's self-identification string
mod6: what is meant by 'blackhole mode' ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i mean when the node is running through 'accepted connection' 'socket no message in first 60 seconds'
a111: Logged on 2015-11-19 20:29 asciilifeform: socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0
mod6: im not sure that is helpful... are you discussing how the client just seems to have no peers after some period of time?
ben_vulpes: i don't expect to be able to make an rpc call while the node is looping through its list of peers and get 'the right' peer shat out
ben_vulpes: mod6: no, the thing where either a shitty network client or some joker opens sockets and lets them expire, eating 60 seconds of the loop through each peer to service
ben_vulpes: during which the node is ~entirely unresponsive
mod6: ben_vulpes: aha, gotcha.
mod6: oh that's not it then asciilifeform? this is helpful, please continue to describe.
mircea_popescu: just keeping track of the binary star is already a huge thing.
mircea_popescu: imo this is a total waste of time ; we won't have the culprit even if we drink the gigabyte swamp. which we needn't be drinking in any case.
mircea_popescu: myeah. i have no problem with the baruch spinoza approach, esp when eg, dealing with viri etc. but it's not a universal wrench.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the suspicion is you'll be seeing too much variance to be able to say much definitively
mircea_popescu: this butressed on the observation that satoshi code is large and stupidly wrought.
mircea_popescu: practically speaking, the exact equivalent of "putin did wtc"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: archive.is is paywalled
mircea_popescu: whole story is, "fatso is angry at not being as relevant as he thinks he should be"
mircea_popescu: the miners are pushing block complexity to the maximum possible because hey, more fees ; the cost this imposes on the nodes is not to be discussed because hey, fatso thinks he should matter and stuff.
mircea_popescu: at the very least block digestion and peering must be cleaved in trb
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the process that talks to peers has ~no business~ knowing anything about the blocks ; the process which maintains the blockchain, verifies blocks etc has ~no business~ talking to peers.
mircea_popescu: mixing these into a single frail monolith is very much satoshism, but we're not supposed to stick to stupid.
mircea_popescu: nope. blockchain part will get to it when it gets to it, and tell you. until then, peer part builds queues.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the fact that you need the blockchain part to tell you what tx are to be relayed does not reduce to, you must make it to listen to all comers.
mircea_popescu: business has a secretary and an actual worker ; fast food has a front office and a back office. there's reasons for things wtf.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has a single office, like a fucking bidonville residence.
mod6: !%a trb I "Investigate blackhole" "Investigate what might be occuring with the so-called black-hole, described here: btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586635"
tb0t: Project: trb, ID: 35, Type: I, Subject: Investigate blackhole, Antecedents: , Notes: Investigate what might be occuring with the so-called black-hole, described here: btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586635
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it answers immediately. let's formalize this.
mircea_popescu: b.peer receives items from peers and puts them in received-txn and received-blocks ; both of which are queues.
mircea_popescu: b.blockchain picks up items from received-blocks and verifies them, adding to blockchain if necessary ; picks up items from received-txn, and verifies them, adding to mempool-txn if necessary.
mircea_popescu: if queried, b.peer loads mempool-txn as it is and uses that ; so what if it's stale, fuck you.
mircea_popescu: this way b.peer can always answer something ' and b.blockchain can sanely optimize its queue processing.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the divorce is required and continuing in the current monolith sheer nonsense.
mircea_popescu: and you know, sanity suddenly flowers everywhere - do you send too much in bytes/s ? b.peer can can your. do you send too much crap ? b.blockchain can tell b.peer it dun wanna hear from you no mo.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it can be done by surgery without the two parts ~even knowing~ they're not satoshi-full-bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: i may also need to adjust my log rotator, 1 gig of bitcoind logs is...not actually that much history.
ben_vulpes: all of a sudden i want to collect data on how long trb takes to return from a simple getinfo call, per your above protocol
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've ruminated on this as well before
ben_vulpes: kinda think that a bitcoin client is journeyman republican project
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you recall and could you cite a line where you talk about folx using ersatz clients, forking and 'fools'?
ben_vulpes: and i don't recall it well enough to find. alas.
ben_vulpes: is anyone aware of a 'muxing' 'dashboard' for staying abreast of several different clients' opinions of network state?
ben_vulpes: oh hey whaddayaknow, getmemorypool eventually returned
trinque: you mayn't remove the fig leaf!1!1!!
trinque: seems deeply political. what you've got there is a consent bit.
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: is that one of those mandatory gaming authority certifications? or a "you can trust our gaming servers, we got an EVALUATION, got checksums and everything"
phf: yeah, that's what it looks like. i wonder if in your explorations of state of rng you came across any offical GCB evaluation of casino rngs, i don't know if those would even be public or have technical detail...
phf: i'd imagine in sane world they would have something like FUCKGOATS or an expensive variation of (like john walker's hotbits) so can publish schematics all you want. in reality it is probably a prng with a seed under two keys
☟︎ phf: that's fair, i think we had a thread, when you first started working on this, with various schemes. "use the optics on your iphone" etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 20:10 asciilifeform: at a certain point, if you attempt the operation, you start to ask 'why is there satoshi crapolade in my bitcoin2.0' rather than 'ooh neato, a repaired trb!'
mircea_popescu: no, it wasn't, as i don't actually propose any changes to processblock. it can go wholesale in b.blockchain
mircea_popescu: patient is indeed not operable in the sense you mean ; but medicine is chiefly a pile of paleatives, not "radical bioreengineering technology"
mircea_popescu: guess what - if you take your allergies to the doctor he will also not cut into every cell and fix your bad dna
mircea_popescu: (yes, all allergies mean one thing - that you're a degenerate fenotype not fit for life. what can you do ? certainly can't go back in time and whack ytour mother to fuck better drunks.)
mircea_popescu: anyway - IF there's ever going to be that "radical bioengineering technology" medicine, it starts exactly in these places. gotta first do the 13yo torah reading work. then can be man.
mircea_popescu: last i fell alseep on alain delon. holy shit is that period weird.
mircea_popescu: back then, the french were still pretending to be a thing. much in the manner of today's us.
phf: ален делон не пьет одеколон. ален делон пьет двойной бурбон. ален делон говорит по-французски
mircea_popescu: he did enjoy a period of chuck norris ism in ru did he
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (take, for instance, urushiol. not per se allergenic! but denatures certain protein in skin such that you are your own allergen.) << But where else could Varnish come from!
phf: well french cinema not being entirely corrupted by imperialism was popular in su, so alen delon got the same treatment as other "anekdot" characters.
phf: fwiw his purple noon is great, i think it even got the trilema treatment?
mircea_popescu: (as a public service : /alɛ̃dəlɔ̃ nʲˈe pʲjˈɵt ɐdʲɪkɐlˈon/ /alɛ̃dəlɔ̃ pʲjˈɵt dvɐjnˈoj bɜrbon/ /alɛ̃dəlɔ̃ ɡəvɐrʲˈit pəfrɐnt͡sˈuskʲɪ/ )
mircea_popescu: phf possibly not. but yes, not ~entirely~ bad, and as an actor certainly better than whatever dorks available today, so he'd still win a "what do we watch" competition. the period though... ah, ah.
mircea_popescu: fwiw de funes shows the same tragic character, except he's more of an engineer at heart, a great administrator, a sort of fouquet rather than you know, piaf's legionnaire.
mircea_popescu: aaand i just looted ~half a btc worth of dagsden flags in eulora. mwahaha.
phf: i always thought of him as a pretty boy who can hold a certain pose. that's why i think purple noon is great, where he fits perfectly because he looks young, fresh, aloof and arrogant. but his other stuff is forgettable. i think he had some tv show where he played a middle aged detective, where he was great again, by virtue of being the right age
mircea_popescu: yeah, he's not a very good actor, but a fine icon. in the vein of brooms that shoot once, a picture of a car can count for a car from the right angle once ; and a stopped clock still shows accurate time on occasion.
deedbot: chatter voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 21:43 asciilifeform: author ~wants~ to be boiled in oil..?
mircea_popescu: but yes, imperial idiots actually do "rng verification" of software ~running on unspecified machines~.
mircea_popescu: the insanity of this boggles the mind, if the mind can be bothered to stop and think for a minute.
phf: mircea_popescu: while you're in that french mode you should watch (or rewatch?) fantômas. there's the three 1960s ones, with de funes. i have no idea if they are any good, because i haven't seen them for a very long time, but i suspect that they are sort of comedic 60s take on james bond.
mircea_popescu: phf i tried recently and couldn't stand it. the cheapo roadshow really irks me. it's almost like watching that dude "commenting", what's his face
mircea_popescu: i just don't go for the whole carny show with the facepaint and the star wars papier mache models.
phf: well, sucks. i have fond memories of it, so i'm not even going to try. like i watched a tv show that was popular in ru in mid90s, "quantum leap". i could barely sit through a handful of eposides and only because i was trying to see if it'll get any good..
mircea_popescu: (this, i come to realise, is a major block for my watching ~any video sf. back when the people involved weren't idiots, the machines weren't yet capable.)
mircea_popescu: phf but if you're up for some utter wtf, can always try "this must be the place". i have no idea what i saw.
phf: hehe, this looks horrible
trinque: almost plays as a "lets sneak a peak at slavery, but safely"
trinque: there's a "merits of suffering" notion somewhere in there, too
ben_vulpes waits for "omfg whats wrong with you americans, none of those tits were even on girls"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 22:04 asciilifeform: the ones with the little padlock.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 22:11 phf: i'd imagine in sane world they would have something like FUCKGOATS or an expensive variation of (like john walker's hotbits) so can publish schematics all you want. in reality it is probably a prng with a seed under two keys
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 21:49 trinque: seems deeply political. what you've got there is a consent bit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or better shielding, or making it go into a reactor core, or etc.
pete_dushenski: "The value of Canada’s natural resource assets stood at $287 billion in 2015, down 73% from 2014, largely due to lower energy prices. […] Timber resources accounted for 55% of the value of all natural resource assets in 2015, followed by minerals (26%) and energy resources (19%)." << in other news, trump's looming war on softwood lumber is going to fucking hurt. and no, it won't be balanced out by
pete_dushenski: keystone, at least not at the national level. but then again, whotf cares about the national level ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 71.71 * 800 / 287 / 10**9 = 1.9988850174216028E-7
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 9.85 * 10**6 * 1.9988850174216028E-7 = 1.9689017421602788
mircea_popescu: do they have science in your country ? how about tedx ?
pete_dushenski: so eulora is basically the same as the entire canadian prairies.
mircea_popescu: hey, gotta leave some room for future growth lest the webcommenters win the webattle.
pete_dushenski: would be good wotbet / bitbet : when will eulora be larger economically than, say, idaho ?