mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems looping over 1g is rather nonsensical.
mircea_popescu: which is why i said should prolly talk to guy see what he says
mod6: I'm using the USB-TTL cable that I bought, separate from the one shipped with the fg. There's a picture of the connection up close in the blog post. It is plugged directly into the computer.
mod6: lemme see if I can dig him up
mod6: copyright at this www.phy.duke.edu/~rgb/General/dieharder.php page is denoted as 2017, so he must still be ~somewhat~ active.
mod6: version listed at the site is 3.31.1, which is the same version I'm using.
mod6: (see posted output files on my site)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-17 21:04 phf: i used to promote a bar in the same block (tom tom's, closed now), so i used to spend a lot of time in this area
mod6: <+asciilifeform>
http://archive.li/SnwEH << recall these ? << illustration of the rewind thing. << ah, interesting. who ran that, anyone recall?
mod6: i wonder if that was the one from osx.
mod6: wonder if the intent is to provide greater coverage of the pool
mod6: even if, misguided.
ben_vulpes: the last one strikes me as terrible experimental design
mod6: i'd like to have the discussion with rgb himself and see what the intent was there.
mod6: I think I just reached the end of my eatblock test...
mod6: aight, lemme work on getting a post put up here.
mod6: 9181:40 = ~6.375 days
mod6: 2x Xeon 5650 (24 core) / 64Gb RAM / Kingston 1Tb SSD
mod6: yah. this thing is like single thread.
mod6: save your lulz for the charts
deedbot: joerose72 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: pretty much been trying to ride the news since day 0. sorta like the divorcee in rhodes island pretending she can't sleep because she's heard all the new york chicks got insomnia.
trinque been out all day, replacing shitty broken laptop
trinque: x1 carbon's got bad ram, actually freezes its own firmware memory test.
trinque: gives one fail on "address test" before it's gone for good.
trinque: I put one of those new AMD chip boxes together today; no moar thinputers.
trinque: mircea_popescu: wot.deedbot.org is my wotviz thinger, needs an SVG capable browser and not much else
trinque on 80char black and white display atm. obsd doesn't know what to do with this gpu
mircea_popescu: no idea why i didn't before, but anyway. doesn't seem to have gone down from it either, so all good.
trinque: asciilifeform: but of course
trinque: got suckered in by the display resolution, 2560 by something.
trinque: but no, that was the last purchase of that kind of item.
mircea_popescu: getting rid of the whole "laptop" paradigm is great for both wrists and productivity anyways.
mircea_popescu: what % of your time last year did you spend in an airplane and what exactly would have happened had you taken a nap / chatted up random chicks / thought about your nails for the interval.
mircea_popescu: i spent what, 0.3% or so of this year in airplane. had thinkpad with multiple batteries loaded up with films etc by diligent travel assistant / cocksucker. in the overhead tray it stayed.
BingoBoingo: In other derp: "The researchers dubbed the reorganization an act of "rapid river piracy," saying that such events had often occurred in the Earth's geologic past, but never before, to their knowledge, as a sudden present-day event. They also called it "geologically instantaneous."" << Ignoring... The Mississippi River's frequent rerouting since the days the French found it. 'Member when the Illinois state capital was in Kaskaski, 2010 ce
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 0 word re where it was for ~2wks << "BitBet Mod 17-04-17 at 14:49 Dear BitBet users, Our apologies for the extended downtime. We underwent a ddos attack, motivated by a rather base extortion attempt (the 4th or 5th this year, but this one was unusually large). We have taken steps with our ISP to buy additional ddos protection capacity and are back to normal operations. All funds under our
☟︎ pete_dushenski: custody remain - as usual - safe, and as our standard policy dictates, not a single satoshi was paid our to the attackers." (from comment on bitbet page)
pete_dushenski: new bbet policy #1 : communicate with terrorists but don't negotiate with them
pete_dushenski: new bbet policy #2 : don't communicate with users but do negotiate with them
mod6: did never started on fire... so that was good.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o look at that slim checkblock << thought it might be cool to do some perl, parse out the stats, do some calcs & provide.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 05:39 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o look at that slim checkblock << thought it might be cool to do some perl, parse out the stats, do some calcs & provide.
mod6: lemme take a quick look
mod6: I don't see a "stall time".
mod6: (btw, the full log is available via the blog), but here's a snippit of one block eaten
mod6: my checkblock stats are mean/median of all of those values
mod6: accept block, process block, and db write wait.
mod6: that was in the odometer?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> anyway looks like you don't have this << ahh, sadly, no.
mod6: ok, i'll see what I can do about getting those two curves put together today.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> not a big deal, read+write ~= total ProcessBlock time << makes sense. stangely, i overlooked that last patch
mod6: asciilifeform: np all tall, my pleasure
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BingoBoingo: lulzies, maybe qntra if more relatit shoes drop
ben_vulpes: i had a similar experience recently, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: and if you thought the ideological brainrot was bad, the writing is /even worse/.
ben_vulpes: which tbqh i did not think was possible
ben_vulpes: yeah and corporate is capitalized but vulture oddly not
ben_vulpes: zero rhyme, and let us not speak of the reason.
ben_vulpes: no i prohibited spending money on it when i saw the cover for the first time months ago
ben_vulpes: bad bad agitprop masquerading as a children's book
ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: "baby why do you hate it?" "because it's sooo baaaad"
lobbes: So, I'm midway through my first gentoo adventure. Currently on the compile kernel step (genkernel), but running into funkiness with uClibc errors. My question is: if I abandon uClibc for, say, glibc, will I have issues building trb? (I remember reading in logz that trb doesn't use glibc)
lobbes: Aha, well this makes my decisions easier already
ben_vulpes: trb builds with buildroot though, does that with which the kernel is compiled affect that pipeline?
lobbes: Well, I'm just trying to stand up a gentoo that'll run trb. Seems like my kernel choice may not be as important as I thought as long as gcc is musltronic?
lobbes: Aha (Sorry, most of this is over my head still)
lobbes: Wow, that makes sense all of a sudden
trinque: mostly, it's 1) start from a musltronic stage3 (they're present on the mirrors in iirc "experimental") and 2) install layman, add musl overlay
trinque: if you wanted to start from stage1, there'd be additional steps involving selecting the right portage profile
trinque: but yeah, not required to have musltronic trb
lobbes: Nifty! thanks trinque/asciilifeform
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 17:16 ben_vulpes: "Kings are fine for storytime./ Knights are fun to play./ But when we make decisions/ we will choose the people's way!"
Framedragger: mats: why this particular paper? unless no good comparisons till now, but kinda hard to believe? just curious.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-22 17:11 asciilifeform: (think: axelrod's classic 'prisoner' tournament - 'on steroids')
mats: Framedragger: came up in a discussion re: dprk engagement, regarding how one might 'error correct' to prevent conflict spiraling
mats: i've little exposure to game theory beyond iterated tit-for-tat so i found this interesting
mod6: im having trouble making a graph with nearly a million datapoints in it.
☟︎ mod6: drawing of the graph is crashing LibreOffice Calc.
mats: everything crashes libreoffice calc in my experience
mod6: any other graph tool suggestions?
mats: matplotlib, but iirc you're a perl-er
mod6: infact, this thing crashed my entire computer. pff
mod6: had to hardpower off the fucking cocksucker
mircea_popescu: in other hardpower lulz, chick's icemaker in the fridge stopped working, just this very sad sound and no ice forthcoming. she called the very helpful super (young guy, i suppose he likes her). quoth he : "sometimes when the power goes out you have to reset these. you know, like computers ? power it down overnight and see in the morning."
mircea_popescu: quoth her : "fuck me, i bet i know what happened. power went out for like 10 minutes yest, musta been the water duct froze in the interval then power being back on it maintains the ice cork and it can't make more ice."
mircea_popescu: quoth me : "so power it down, open freezer door, put glass of hot water close to conduit in question."
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 18:23 mod6: im having trouble making a graph with nearly a million datapoints in it.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, that's what "we use in eulora"
mircea_popescu is sitting pretty on a large ball of synergy, pulling on the threads.
mod6: this can't be right...
mod6: well, maybe it is? i see some spikes in the 30000ms range... didn't think it was ever that high.
mod6: looking through the raw data now...
mod6: $ cat graph.txt | awk '{print $2}' | perl -e '@a=<STDIN>; foreach(@a) { chomp($_); if($_ > 25000) { print "$_\n"; }}' | wc -l
mod6: oh yah! guess there are. :]
mircea_popescu: spotting this sort of thing is why graphs exist in the first place.
mod6: gnuplot is actually really cool. can't believe i never used it before.
mod6: thanks a LOT to diana_coman who helped me :]
mircea_popescu: can't believe you didn't start using it once you saw all of us use it in eulora lol\
mod6: i actually had no idea how you guys were doing the charting.
mod6: ya, turned out cool 'eh? thanks for your help. looks sweet.
mod6: ahhh right, i remember seeing this.
mod6: haha, yeah, it did grind it down for like 10 seconds, but then it was fine
mod6: yeah, stuff falls out of my head sometimes.
mod6: i'll update my blog
shinohai: Heh I remember reading diana_coman 's article and spent whole weekend plotting shit and writing scripts
diana_coman can't quite believe that's from 2015 already, ha
shinohai: I didn't discover it until late last year lol
mircea_popescu: thanks god you took the hour to write it out so two years later i can link it.
mod6: and it looks like 69x easier than me gimp'ing over some eulora screenshots.
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah, because it autoprocessed the bot log anyway. you dun gotta do nuttin.
mircea_popescu: the one concerning point is that the growth has not yet plateau'd.
ben_vulpes: eh we could just give up on verification
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes has been trying to troll all day, and he sucks at it!
ben_vulpes: one trawls for lolz, trolls for trout.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly time to re-do this whole eatblock instrumentation with a per-line timing profiler.
mircea_popescu: no, i know. but look at the graph. so what ~exactly~ is this 'db write wait time' that is ~= the total ?
mircea_popescu: can i has corresponding code snippet that was executing ?
mircea_popescu: nevermind the bunch of these, i want the whole eatblock'd blockchain.
mircea_popescu: would be useful to have the whole saga, and you're all set up for it, so should be easier than reconstructing the setup later.
mod6: i'm up for a full re-eatblock. just want to make sure I'm not missing anything this time :]
mod6: let me get that setup.
mod6: im certain to screw that up
mod6: before I recompile everything. i'll check with you again.
mod6: i gotta recut all the blocks anyway.
mod6: i just deleted them this am
mod6: for whom? it's like 100G
mod6: ok, maybe might have to just another drive and drop 'em on there.
mircea_popescu: as a general policy, when doing things of this nature (publishing intertesting stuff in forum) keep the whole echafaudage for day+ while people comment.
mod6: i'll try that next time i run a test.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you thought core utils is fine.
mircea_popescu: except for any time you try to use them, i find they are fine too! like one of those comedic toolboxes with a hammer that's seemingly attached except if you pick it up the metal falls off etc.
Framedragger: it's like the modern website. "i expect good bandwidth. you have low bandwidth? fuck yourself"
mod6: ok blowing away all of my .dat files in ~/.bitcoin
mod6: will recut all .dat files ...
Framedragger: "Note if the input may return short reads as could be the case when reading from a pipe for example, ‘iflag=fullblock’ will ensure that ‘count=’ corresponds to complete input blocks rather than the traditional POSIX specified behavior of counting input read operations." OK
Framedragger: flabbergasted. may as well embrace tmsr's default malice interpretation here. because seriously.
☟︎ Framedragger thought `dd` was one of those few 'no hidden bullshit, what you see is what you get' utilities from better times
trinque: cat thread is by now a yearly tradition
Framedragger: yes well, granted it doesn't support additional command line args, so has to handle fewer things. but then, maybe that, too, is *also* correct...
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: complexity is a the self-justifying disease of the programmer's mind
Framedragger: i certainly see that, especially looking at gnu cat (omfg)
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 20:09 Framedragger: flabbergasted. may as well embrace tmsr's default malice interpretation here. because seriously.
ben_vulpes: but you don't see that from your career of programmering to date?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i betcha it's been in the old dog eared yellowed looseleaf notes the posix copied.
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: of course i do. i meant, i see it here, too, and agree. but, yeah, 'tis a big problem
doppler: weird.. what's going on there?
shinohai: See the du -h retardation from previous thread
doppler: I agree that -h should be the default in userland utilities
trinque: folks that want a charitable interpretation of these might ponder a while re: who has the most time / resources to shitgnominate
doppler: asciilifeform: haha, yeah. like I have “alias l='ls -hlp'” for example
doppler: asciilifeform: POSIX sure seems to result in a lot of braindamage
jurov: short reads prolly started as unix worse-is-better philosophy "api has these huge warts but as it can be easily fixed by retrying in userspace, it's okay"..posix only snowballed on
mircea_popescu: was a time when data was a lot more valuable, basically on account of the world not yet consisting of the www pressed shitboard. in that world of little valuable data, having any chunk "lost in the pipes" would have appeared typically soviet wasteful bureaucratism.
mircea_popescu: if i have 3.5 blocks it allows me to read 4 blocks last of which is half 0s
jurov: on the yes test, i got warning:
jurov: dd: warning: partial read (73728 bytes); suggest iflag=fullblock
☟︎ jurov: still, no mention at all data is mutilated
doppler: I didn't get any warnings. you're using coreutils dd, correct?
jurov: yes, sys-apps/coreutils-8.25 (/bin/dd) (acl nls xattr -caps -gmp -hostname -kill -multicall -selinux -static -vanilla USERLAND="-BSD")
doppler: oops, I actually do get that warning. totally didn't see it the first time. coreutils-8.27 here
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: can haz one moar plot -- just 300,000 and up, plox ? << i can do this easy enough, still want this?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> yes | dd of=out bs=1024k count=10 << ya, tried this, 122880 bytes out
mod6: then tried `yes | dd iflag=fullblock of=out bs=1024k count=10` and says 10485760 bytes out
mod6: so yah that's fucky
a111: Logged on 2017-04-18 21:20 jurov: dd: warning: partial read (73728 bytes); suggest iflag=fullblock
ben_vulpes: dd on bsd (os x, claims 1994 vintage) does not appear to pad
ben_vulpes: manpage indicates padding must be asked for
Framedragger: this is only done by gnu coreutils dd, it seems. same warning on ubuntu (coreutils), etc.
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