trinque: why is the thumbnail for the video comet pizza?
trinque: ah found where it's mentioned
trinque: speaking of cheese pizza, there's a video floating around that looks like somebody torturing a kid in a shower
trinque: maybe a dog in there chewing on him or something
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes why not ?
trinque: anybody wants to actually http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-16#1614425 leaking the full video without obstructions would be a great start☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 04:19 asciilifeform: trinque: the correct response would be top 500 of cia org chart found hanging on meat hooks. and afaik no report of this.
asciilifeform: trinque: leaking which video
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i can't even figure that out for myself. 90% of the time i think "mmm, chocolate. tasty i guess but i kinda want some more challah or whatever else i baked most recently covered in bread"
trinque: lemme see if I can find a link
mircea_popescu: hm.
hanbot: ben_vulpes you'd prolly like cozonac
mircea_popescu: a that's an idea.
ben_vulpes: looks tasty
BingoBoingo: just make a chocolate aerogel FOGBANK style
mircea_popescu: lol chocolate aerogel, not bad
trinque: asciilifeform: http://archive.is/5nfBP
mircea_popescu: in other make daytime tv great again, fox now so far ahead #1 tv station it pussygrabs.
asciilifeform: trinque: what's the context for this find ?
asciilifeform: could be generic crapolade for all anyone knows.
hanbot: asciilifeform good point re patchlist. apparently also helps with reading, yes it's got malleus. http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cBUoE/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: aha!
trinque: asciilifeform: somebody dumped it to 4chan; who knows authenticity
trinque: could just as well be clips from rando fbi file
asciilifeform: hanbot: fwiw all of my nodes operate with malleus. since the day i wrote it.
mircea_popescu: i confess i don't follow the idea trinque
asciilifeform: hanbot: i see ~0 reason to waste bandwidth on talking to prb.
mircea_popescu: the network is degrading, alfie.
trinque: we were having a thread the other day about what would get the central US to start shooting people
mircea_popescu: so you figure shower shenanigans ?
trinque: the fatherhood video clearly shows a two-pane glass shower
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: network degrading is 100% a 'if not you, then who' affair. run nodez.
trinque: somebody short locked inside, maybe a dog to the right
trinque: lots of hard-to-fake pain screaming
trinque: and "CALL ME FATHER" being yelled by a boston accent
mircea_popescu: this is complicated.
trinque: alas blurry so means nothing
trinque: also the value of faking something like this is obvoius
trinque: *obvious
mircea_popescu: consider volunteering @ battered women shelter.
thestringpuller: hanbot: I think i'm having same issue. but i just started my node, and it's responding to rpc, but its not receiving blocks
trinque: mircea_popescu: why's that?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: How is gardening down south? Start any vegetables yet?
mircea_popescu: trinque to see a bunch of "central america" not giving the slightest shit about "call me father" stepfather violence towards the (literal) bastards, among other such items.
mircea_popescu: nobody's shooting anybody because a guy killed the worms some other guy left behind.
mircea_popescu: three cases out of five, mother won't even leave him over it.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: I'm working on beds. Although I have a mini-nursery with mainly spinach and other greens.
trinque: mircea_popescu: yeah, not so much that
trinque: more a "and you are ruled by them" angle
trinque: but I can see your point
trinque: incidentally the US is iirc one state legislature majority from being able to call a republican constitutional convention
mircea_popescu: just about
mircea_popescu: though it';s not exactly clear what they'd do with it.
BingoBoingo: Well, depending on how 2018 goes, could be STFU CIA
mircea_popescu: you don't need a constitutional amendment for that.
mircea_popescu: but honeslty, if you look at the basics such as budgets, it seems cia's history will end this trump term.
BingoBoingo: Well, not to get rid of the now CIA, but yes to prevent a future CIA
mircea_popescu: no, actually, the thing itself. closed, headquarters turned into museum.
mircea_popescu: alf can go visit, touch the original resonant us seal the russians made.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that thing is at nsa museum
asciilifeform: iirc
mircea_popescu: ah ok then
asciilifeform: and iirc some meathead dropped and broke the original, the display piece is copy.
mircea_popescu: a really ? had nfi
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asciilifeform: ^ http://www.lajuvenilpastas.com.ar << lel
asciilifeform: ' NOSOTROS HACEMOS LAS MEJORES PASTAS Vos las hacés únicas '
asciilifeform: didjaknow.
mircea_popescu: sounds about right.
mircea_popescu: ftr, pasta here is strictly inedible.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: try mauro.it in belgrano
mircea_popescu: whassat ?
mthreat: pasta place that supposedly has good pasta. i haven't tried it myself
mthreat: but recommended by some friends
mircea_popescu: that's ok, i import.
mthreat: who have eaten pasta outside argentina
mircea_popescu: anyway, the idea is more, every few blocks has this "fresh homemade pasta!" "pasta factory!" "el palacio de la pasta!" bullshits and they're so shockingly bad i can't begin to imagine wtf they're thinking.
mthreat: ya they seem to think their pizza is good too
mircea_popescu: ikr?
mircea_popescu: then again, usians also.
mthreat: true.. i do like papa john's :) but I like gustapizza in Florence more
mircea_popescu: fortunately, i don't have alf's problem. baking sane food is something that one woman can learn.
mircea_popescu: bakind hardware, somewhat iffier.
asciilifeform 100% sanefood powered
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/juno/ << Trilema - Juno
mircea_popescu: now if only could make cpu there too.
mthreat: one michael cera movie I actually liked was Youth in Revolt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6_IVx6HjxY
mircea_popescu: that kid has the archetypical "face that demands a punch"
BingoBoingo: RIP Viewscreen
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/us-president-trump-hosts-press-conference-and-reviews-action-packed-first-month/ << Qntra - US President Trump Hosts Press Conference And Reviews Action Packed First Month
phf: h
phf: [1] phf (+i) on #trilema (+cmnt) *
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-16#1614694 << i watched a lot of "classics" in pirate quality, and i prefer it that way. notorious example is Alien, where between the original print and the pirate shit copy you could barely see anything, which made the experience more terrifying.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 17:57 mircea_popescu: yes i'll get archival copy of stuff i like. amusingly, 99% of which doesn't exist in better resolution anyway. wtf am i going to do with an archival copy of cat on the hot tin roof, watch the original artefacts in preference of the modern ones ?
phf: hmm, running ircII inside emacs's term is probably not the best idea. i don't know how those two artifacts came about..
BingoBoingo: Maybe you let yourself become powerless over computer and you loglines have threatened unmanageability?
BingoBoingo: *your
BingoBoingo: At least this is not "seek restoration to sanity" level problem
phf: i think the solution is to give up. switch to windows 10, connect through web irc client, put gpg key into keybase, the works
BingoBoingo: Nah, just apprentice as watchmaker and build calculating machine to IRC from
asciilifeform: phf: iirc kakobrekla actually did this.
asciilifeform: full throttle.
asciilifeform: sorta like those folx in prison who decide to stop washing. and after that why bother to brush teeth, wipe arse, dress, etc.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: windows and all? this is in the heathen logs somewhere?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: maybe i dreamed it
phf: re "apprentice as watchmaker" i picked up first edition of The Marine Chronometer by Gould. i would call it "delightful"
phf: thoroughly researched, but at the same time written from first person with no pretense to authority.
asciilifeform: phf: one of the things that always bothered me re chronometer is : why the fuck nobody tried chemical reaction for timekeeping
asciilifeform: (in sealed ampoule, naturally)
asciilifeform: the british tried all sorts of crackpottery, but afaik nothing of this sort.
asciilifeform: (for stable temperature, naturally the ampoule is stowed up boatswain's arse)
phf: sealed ampoule and stable temperature are the tricky parts, so have to be factored into the chemical reaction, but then your timeframes don't match. john harrison died in 1780, mendeleev was born in 1830
asciilifeform: well consider, what reactions were known pre-harrison.
asciilifeform: ordinary combustion, for instance. picture something like oil lamp inside clear vessel (closed air supply), very small flame.
ben_vulpes: still suffers the hourglass reset problem, no?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not if large enough
phf: lamp wick will burn, which in turn will affect burn rate. also pressure changes, from external temperature, from burn termperature, from oil burning up
ben_vulpes: what'd one use for a wick that wouldn't need adjusting as it burned?
ben_vulpes: phf: "these are just engineering problems, silly mortal"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: capillary.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: capillary wicks were a thing in the late seventeens?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: bernoulli understood capillary effect...
asciilifeform: but phf is probably right
ben_vulpes: i only know what i've found in the wild, which is why i'm stuck on porous bronze
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: pretty sure nobody made porous bronze till 1930s
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, capillary's going to get hit hard as the oil level drops
asciilifeform: !#s oilite
a111: 2 results for "oilite", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=oilite
ben_vulpes: myeah, that's pretty much exactly what i'm talking about. hence 'stuck', as not available at the time.
phf: we should hit royal astronomy archives in greenwich, which is going to have exhaustive record of all the chronometer competition submissions
ben_vulpes: btw, this ipv6 character who appeared to get k-lined earlier and just showed up and dropped again ('deepbook5broo') has been appearing in other freenode channels i habituate as well
phf: given the number of whacky proposals, i suspect it could have a handful of chemical once, that failed the engineering part
asciilifeform: wonder if growing fungus was tried.
ben_vulpes: "royal society did it!"
phf: i wonder how many submissions there are "aww, if only you knew this thing that got discovered 15 years after you died, your approach would've worked"
phf: if only you knew that thing greeks knew, but your civilization won't rediscover for another 100 years
asciilifeform: 'whaddayamean you don't know how to work the strong force yet'
phf: in unrelated lulz india has this strong propaganda going on for switching everyone to digital payments. i bought this party line magazine, that's supposed to explain how safe, fast, secure, easy world is going to become after there's no longer any cash
phf: "the advantages of digital money over fiat money"
asciilifeform: догоним и перегоним америку
phf: there's a chapter on how switzerland is 99% cashless, and how that should be a goal in india
phf: next page lists about a dozen of different incompatible solutions ranging from an indian equivalent of viza network to a dozen or so bank specifics "apps" that are all competing for #1 payment solution slot
phf: atms have 10000rs (150$) limit for foreign withdrawals
phf: meanwhile, elsewhere, you can get better forex rate for $100 bills, rather than $20 bills, which basically puts status quo on par with russia in '93
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/16/unwinding-overzealous-invocations-of-tikkun-olam-with-613-mitzvot/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Unwinding overzealous invocations of tikkun olam with 613 mitzvot.
ben_vulpes: phf: and argentina ca 2015
phf: in fact ~best~ rate i could find anywhere in the 40km radius came with a plea of "i'll give you even better rate, bra, if you can bring me some more of them $100 bills"
phf: ben_vulpes: right, i'm grokking where mp was coming from with "to real man, bring cash to ag, start a forex"
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the washing thing is a serious problem. turns out that if no women around, people stop seeing the point.
mthreat: people who don't shower in jail/prison are called 'vikings', or another name in Spanish which I forget. There is peer pressure to not stink in there.
mircea_popescu: somewhat, yeah.
mircea_popescu: depends a lot on how common it is, though.
asciilifeform: woah first su blood
mircea_popescu: phf i have no confidence in "chemical cronometer" crackpot alfism. notice that there has never existed such a thing as a chemical clock, not even today. it is, i daresay, the earliest application of "quantum computer", this.
mircea_popescu: no clockworks this way.
asciilifeform: http://ihep.su << inst. of high energy physics, moscow
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: candle clock, ancient
mircea_popescu: candles are not ancient.
asciilifeform: point
asciilifeform: 'Созданный в 1963 году Государственным комитетом по использованию атомной энергии СССР для проведения исследований фундаментальных свойств материи и законов микромира, ИФВЭ прочно занимает лидирующие позиции в отечественной и мировой нау
mircea_popescu: anyway. rate of melting, hardly chemical.
mircea_popescu: phf hopefully indian "state" fails within the next few years.
mircea_popescu: it was a ridiculous piece of british nonsense about on par with their middle eastern constructions. has no place in sanity.
phf: it's the original "helping africa"
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: and unlike the us, which they "helped" into their present predicament, india has no fat to burn.
mircea_popescu: it'll be truly sad when all the indian hipsters discover the hard facts through harder knocks.
mircea_popescu: mostly because there's, in spite of all the noise and burbling, just a smattering of ustards. there's about 100x more of them in uttar pradesh alone.
mircea_popescu: a pile of ten corpses is not the same thing as a pile of eight hundred.
phf: well, it'll be easier for them to hard knock, because hipsters will just go back to farming/fishing because ~father and mother~ did
mircea_popescu: that's what you think.
phf: i'm in the south, they have many choice words here for uttar pradesh here, when you get them drunk
mircea_popescu: tell you what, ben_vulpes 's girl, or for that matter lucy (in disgrace) has no problem doing barefoot-in-mud thing because once+ removed from the grandmothers.
mircea_popescu: the daughter of the woman who gave birth in a ditch isn't gonna. with her life. it skips a generation.
ben_vulpes: so in light of the triviality with which the TRB node to which mimisbrunnr talks is taken out by even moderately determined actors, i'm considering taking the whole thing down until i have a more robust data collector system in place.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone read that splendid piece, late austrian, i think might've been kafka actually, in which a woman fucked in the bushes complains, to no one in particular, that there she is, still taking it with the dust ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja try the scheme where your node only talks to trb nodes ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes gotta distribute. there's just no other way. i kinda hinted at it back when, but didn't want to be telling you how to do your shit. anyway : make a half dozen nodes, not one.
phf: i see that skip generation here, boys want to transcend fathers, move to Dubai for riches, and if they manage to return (because the contract negotiator was a nice person), switch to plan B. get some nodic lady to take them to the promissed land.
mircea_popescu: phf that's btw muslim influence. this is currently the ~only alternative to "blow shit up", the white cow.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: now that you mention it
mircea_popescu: i lived for months among a group of monkeys who considered me ~divine, because well, chet was there with me.
phf: yeap
mircea_popescu: they just couldn't comprehend relationship matching their filter but not matching their expectation. how could it!!11
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pretty sure i'm running with malleus
ben_vulpes: leastaways that node
mircea_popescu: (the divine part came from, not that she was subservient but that we had no substantial disagreements, which to them was precisely the same thing ; and didn't match their observations among the "truly successful" dudes of the locality (there's a bunch of people who got a fat old bitty from londonderry to move over, funnel some bezzle and build a house-foreigners-and-boat thingee). )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that isn't equivalent!
mircea_popescu: ^
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: malleus has 0 relation to the item suggested.
asciilifeform: what you want is a box that ~only~ talks to a handful of trb nodes. that you operate.
asciilifeform: ~these~ talk to outside world.
mircea_popescu: nd boxes here is not vps.,
asciilifeform: honest boxes.
phf: there's one boy on the beach, he affected caribbean accent (!!) and just fully committed to the whole kingston bad boy shtick. "ja man", king tubby reggae, the works. they had a going away party for him, because he scored the jack pot. married a homely english girl, who's bringing him back to u.k.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: i give it even odds he's going to twink for pay before the five year plan is out.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah, my mistake.
phf: right, my yoga teacher friend, who's been "friendly" with all the local boys had enough experience in the matter to "hell fucking no am i ever" as far as marrying an indian. they ~expect~ their women to be meak, but they don't have any way of enforcing it, so the dynamic goes straight into bitchy couple mode as soon as there's any hint of "couple"
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-13#1602140 << design i baked (lordship circular) for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LAjrq/?raw=true☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-13 02:53 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-12#1602003 << we do not, afaik, presently have a knob in trb that would enable the 'at you' part of this.
ben_vulpes: no rush, i'm going to walk out to 'breakcore mashups' night here in a few minutes anyways.
mircea_popescu: enforce schmenforce, for that matter. i do plenty of enforcing in the sense of training, either because girl "doesn't see" why she should x or didn't put enough blood and tears into it. but i've yet to you know, enforce her being meek. that comes fucking naturally, for one thing, and for the other, really, what sane people have to yell at each other ? i've never seen this.
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of this, anyone saw city island ? delightful little mistaken identity item very much in the proper commedia dell'arte tradition. with andy garcia though, so myeah.
phf: well, i had drink with a group of protestan priests, that, once sloshed, were ranting about the "unfairness": priests study for 8 years, doctors study for 8 years, why don't both have same salaries? "what we need is a bloody revolution" (what like with guns? -- "... no. you mean, like bloody revolution"). what sort of "training" or "sanity"
mircea_popescu: didn't you tell them seeing eye dogs also train for years ?
ben_vulpes bbl
phf: lol
mircea_popescu: well ? and it's DOG YEARS
phf: oh, man, "stairwell wit" as the frenchmen say
asciilifeform: farm elephant, for moar yearz even
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only thing that was always abundant throughout the years was years.
asciilifeform: in other recent lulz, http://www.weeklystandard.com/decius-unmasked/article/2006623 <<< >>> http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election
mircea_popescu: da fuck is "the american idea". i'd very much like to hear this, even as a draft form.
mircea_popescu: and this weeklystandard crap is unreadable.
mircea_popescu: they really gotta stop passing highschooler essays on a generalized regexp criterion. that's not how writing works.
phf: it is good to be outside DC for these exciting times
phf salutes asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: phf you gotta start a blog, you know.
mircea_popescu: take all the hotties out, get them drunk and smiling at the camera and there's your first article.
phf: only so much ranting i can do in logs..
mircea_popescu: it's good to have. formative.
mircea_popescu: in the logs you hide behind the statues.
phf: i can see that, i was enjoying the status quo though. blog is the necessary next step
mircea_popescu: kinda.
mircea_popescu: !!up larryth
deedbot: larryth voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: Reuel: please to stop with the join/part spam
BingoBoingo: lol, that fakenews weekly standard correction, from "made sentence" to "was employed in sentence making factory"
BingoBoingo: How the newspaper of Bush II whitehouse has fallen.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/oETeE/?raw=true <<< take 2
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: Happy belated b-day mr. BingoBoingo
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-16#1614373 << I can't get my node to "stay current". dunno if it's refusing to receive blocks, or just doesn't know to ask for them☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 02:49 hanbot: what's the proper name to ascribe to this super fun phenomenon wherein trb node happily catches up on blocks until 99.x% and then drops connections and stops seeing new blocks after <10mins?
shinohai: weird thing is I see mimi ahead of blockchain.info lots of times
thestringpuller: i've tried using -connect and -addnode
thestringpuller: after it gets current it stops listening for blocks
thestringpuller: i just get bunch of tx's into the mempool
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-bible-markup-project/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Bible Markup Project
asciilifeform: meanwhile, the dept. of newyorkdeathrayplots continues to delight, https://archive.is/3thme
asciilifeform: 'A Florida man has been charged in connection with a plot to bomb Target stores along the East Coast, with hopes that such an attack would force the retailer's stock to plunge and allow him to cheaply buy its stock, federal investigators announced Thursday. ... Barnett offered an unnamed individual -- referred to as a "confidential source" (CS) in the documents -- $10,000 to plant bombs in stores in several states, according to the a
asciilifeform: ffidavit ...'
mod6: mornin'
asciilifeform: hey mod6
mod6: how goes?
asciilifeform: was reading ben_vulpes's thing
mod6: ah, right on
mircea_popescu: cheap bombing campaign huh
asciilifeform: the 'bombs' apparently consisted of toy fireworks.
asciilifeform: and, bonus, 'According to ABC affiliate WFTV in Orlando, Barrett was already on probation and wearing a court-ordered GPS monitor for a number of felony offenses, including kidnapping, multiple counts of sexual battery with a weapon or force and grand theft.'
mircea_popescu: ...
asciilifeform: d00d was probably one of those mentally feeble folx who will confess to a list of anythings.
mircea_popescu: pretty good list.
mircea_popescu: no rape though. seems equally probable dood's one of those gynonormative folk the gynostate can't stomach. probably told some fat waitress to move her ass while brandishing a fork, aka sexual battery with a weapon or force.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it should be gynenormative and gynestate huh. obnoxious greek vowels.
trinque: danielpbarron: curious where you're getting the corrections to your transcription of the bible
danielpbarron: it's nkjv with footnotes where kjv differs; also sometimes the nkjv has footnotes of its own about where certain texts differ
trinque: ah ok
trinque: iirc there's this "esword" program which might be balls of html inside
danielpbarron: where possible i'll use Darwin Fish's translation; i think he did the first few books of moses
trinque: it has been a very long time since I looked into such a thing
trinque: might help
Framedragger: such dedication to the cause danielpbarron, i'm curious if you ever considered learning greek (new testament) and possibly hebrew/aramaic (old testament), to read scriptures etc.
danielpbarron: that would be nice, and that's part of the reason i like darwin; he did learn to read those things for exactly that reason
mircea_popescu: such learning is a lifetime activity.
ben_vulpes: i can't tell if hebrew/aramaic felt easy because i was young when i learned it or if it actually is a fairly sensible character set
mircea_popescu: character set ?
ben_vulpes: the written form, i mean
ben_vulpes: i am not a linguist, do not have the tongue to speak of tongues
trinque: danielpbarron: ah you know what, no, they were sqlite databases inside
trinque: so might be able to take one of those and script the generation of html
mircea_popescu: "so the biblical scholars mis-translated the hebrew word for young woman into the greek word for virgin. an easy mistake to make, since there's only a subtle difference in spelling. but it was the virgin that caught people's attention. it's not every day that a virgin conceives and bears a son. so you keep that for a couple hundred years, and the next thing you know, you have the holy catholic church."
ben_vulpes: not tlp: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4uUJanXUAcIUzt.jpg
mircea_popescu: kinda cool, i guess.
mircea_popescu: can i get it on a tea cozy ?
ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/1dspI << missing: any quotations from the letters to shareholders
ben_vulpes: so does not even the wsj do anything but contract for think pieces without any research by people who know nothing about the topic but that which they can find on google finance?
ben_vulpes: oh it's from blogs.*.com
mircea_popescu: whorington post. they're a mfa, like myspace.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: saving up to buy a share of buffettronium ?
ben_vulpes: wall street urinal
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now why would i do that?
asciilifeform: dunno, why would you read about doing it
ben_vulpes: for the joy of seeing the wsj write about something without citing any relevant papers!
ben_vulpes: why watch snuff, isis execution videos, read camwho blogs? for entertainment
trinque: "see even buffet does it for the tweets. now retweet this shitty blog article."
asciilifeform: isis headsoff clips are different. in that they depict honest reality.
asciilifeform: whereas buffetronic price is a work of fiction, of the cheapest sort
trinque: I dunno; those people love the retweets too.
ben_vulpes: i didn't read it for the price, but to see how wide of the mark the wsj has drifted. it's an honest depiction of reality in that /it was published/, and depicts the process and its results.
asciilifeform: northkr press also 'honest depiction of what was published', but lolk.
mircea_popescu: "Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?"
mircea_popescu: turns out, earth doth not swallow. women - do.
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo https://archive.is/ETmwV << one for you
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: notably, this one 'He then walked into the backyard, fired shots toward a fence and then the helicopter.'
asciilifeform: 0 smoking wreck, 0 craters tho.
asciilifeform: just as in new orleans. apparently not so easy to bring down chopper with small arms as mircea_popescu suggested.
mircea_popescu: i am not responsible for random dork.
asciilifeform: i was skeptical of 'red army d00d brought down messerschmitt with mosin' when reading as a boy, also.
asciilifeform: the 'vital organs' of the target are small.
asciilifeform: (hence why real life aa gunnery works on principle of shrapnel + concussion)
trinque: in my experience that rifle's pretty damned accurate
trinque: and the rounds are big
asciilifeform: trinque: thing topped out at ~1km of useful
trinque: sure, but things fly lower than that
asciilifeform: iirc early in ww2 instructions included 'shoot at dive bomber' but then changed to 'take cover'
asciilifeform: to revisit upstack, i suspect that police choppers will remain a going concern right up until the first heatseaking quadcopter-cum-pyrotechnic.
asciilifeform: after that, desire to hover in $multimil unarmoured toy will evaporate.
asciilifeform: *heatseeking
asciilifeform: 'but they are slow' -- not a problem , you do not need a rocket to catch up to a ~motionless victim
trinque: good job; you just justified another 10bil to lockheed martin for "helicopter iron dome"
asciilifeform: trinque: 10tril why not
trinque: incidentally this is not a bad DDOS mechanism for the DoD
ben_vulpes: i've always wondered what monofilament (possibly coated in crushed glass) would do to the swash plate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a helicopter and a messerschmitt have nothing in common. random dude alleged to have done something vague by font-of-lies has nothing to do. wouldja stop shitting on topics already.
mircea_popescu: whether it's safe or it's not safe to try and fly helicopter within range of enemy rifles is not going to be decided by stakhanovist stories of any flavour, be they pravda i, pravda ii, or whatever.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-17#1615097 << http://atruechurch.info/twovirginbirths.html >> ???????? (betulah) is found in Genesis 24:16; Exodus 22:16-17; Leviticus 21:3, 14; Deuteronomy 22:19, 23, 28; 32:25; Judges 19:24; 21:12; 2 Samuel 13:2, 18; 1 Kings 1:2; 2 Kings 19:21; 2 Chronicles 36:17; Esther 2:2-3, 17, 19; Job 31:1 ("young woman" NKJV);☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 19:50 mircea_popescu: "so the biblical scholars mis-translated the hebrew word for young woman into the greek word for virgin. an easy mistake to make, since there's only a subtle difference in spelling. but it was the virgin that caught people's attention. it's not every day that a virgin conceives and bears a son. so you keep that for a couple hundred years, and the next thing you know, you have the holy catholic church."
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's from snatch.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever review that one?
mircea_popescu: apparently noit.
mircea_popescu: but i liked it.
ben_vulpes: favorite of mine for sure
mircea_popescu: pity that dork went on to spawn a whole series of reality tv shits.
ben_vulpes: ritchie?
mircea_popescu: nah, the dude that played turkish.
mircea_popescu: graham or statham or what's his name
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: anyone ever trick you into watching "crank"?
mircea_popescu: mno
ben_vulpes: so bad
mircea_popescu: but srsly, aging plumber with an attitude worked specifically because ritchie knew what he was doing.
ben_vulpes: comes clean out the other side into hysterically
mircea_popescu: to see the subversion played straight insistently is pretty meh.
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu ever write a 'likbez of partizan warfare' or similar ? i'd quite like to read it.
asciilifeform: 'with what to deal with chopper, and how' is a question some of the folx tuned in might, whether they want to or not, have to answer one day.
mircea_popescu: not really. but anywya, the proper model for helicopter is ~car ; except with the added benefits of jesus nut, and a serious incentive to keep everything light.
mircea_popescu: what you're doing however is on the level of, "oh, i saw A team shooting in hollywood blockbuster, therefore safest place in world is in front of firing squad. also small arms don't work. tee hee."
mircea_popescu: a hunting rifle is a good start. it helps tremendously if you a) can actually shoot where you aim and b) do actually aim at it.
asciilifeform: fwiw in fact i never once saw up close the shooting of a chopper. and subj was not covered in my kindergarten.
asciilifeform: so i'll believe mircea_popescu's description.
asciilifeform: in which part would you have to aim ?
mircea_popescu: i nearly fell to my death in one ; nobody was even shooting.
asciilifeform: aha i recall that piece, it was water in the fuel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think car. shoot driver ; shoot fuel tank ; these work with a fucking 38mm. if you're actually firing 20 gauge you can prolly fissure a cylinder / ablate the transmission / cut a hole throgh one blade large enough to make it no longer capable of flight
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was, for the needs of this conversation, we flying with one dead filter in the redundant arrangement. because cost savings, see, ie "no money". another item everyone will get acquainted with in this maga life.
mircea_popescu: half the time military gear is about to give up the ghost on its own merits, not like it's all tip top shiny new and well oiled.
trinque: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk072_Apache/Bryan%20Ribbans/apat7.jpeg << configured with secondary gas tank right next to missiles
trinque: you know; for convenience
mircea_popescu: well, for the naive conviction that "nobody'd fucking dare"
asciilifeform: lol just like tiger tank
asciilifeform: trinque: is that thing at least droppable?
mircea_popescu: anyway. asciilifeform is actually aware quadcopter rotors can't handle as much as a blade of grass, imagines 2 ton heli rotor can handle buckshot ?
trinque: asciilifeform: no idea
asciilifeform: mojaheds in afghan for some reason preferred to use things other than buckshot. but is interesting to contemplate theoretically - given dispersion, how many shotgun rounds would you have to fire, from, say, 500 metres, to hit rotor.
mircea_popescu: what dispersion ? it's a hunting round
asciilifeform: so slug, not shot ?
mircea_popescu: how many do you have to fire to hit duck ? "depends. can you shoot ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that qualified hunter should be able to hit a duck at a half mile EVERY TIME.
asciilifeform: wonder what mod6 would say to this.
mircea_popescu: sometimes i wonder what you think hunting is.
asciilifeform: i am not a champion marksman, nor mega-hunter. but i do picture that duck hunt would be somewhat more difficult if you had to shoot a ~specific~ duck, rather than one from a flock; and if ducks knew how to shoot back, and call for backup..
mircea_popescu: this is what i mean. wtf are you talking "a specific duck". of coruse you shoot at a specific duck holy hell.
trinque: lolwat
trinque imagines asciilifeform spraying ak47 rounds into flock, "FOR PIGLET!!!!!"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "into flock" being charitable. into bridge, into clouds, into the other rounds...
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's a profession, being a hunter. not like being c programmer, but like being c programmer aspires to be.
asciilifeform: entirely respectable trade.
asciilifeform: (hunting, that is.)
mircea_popescu: yeah. telltale sign : it's not for everyone.
asciilifeform: afaik only the grave is 'for everyone'
mircea_popescu is always very suspicion of the female professions, from religion to "our democracy" to aluminum siding salesmanship that "are open to everyone"
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/OwS20 << lulzy admixture of sense and nonsense. 'oh noez bit flips' but 0 mention of ecc. nor of the fact that almost all 'single event upset' are of ~earthly~ origin, ordinary beta decay
trinque: pff ecc. not nearly as cool as minority report triad of processors