doppler: very nice. yes, i was curious about both.
phf: you're from moscow? you know my friend Vadim?
phf: in practice last two times i was asked that, i knew the vadim etc. in question. it's still a funny question tho
☟︎ TomServo: Ahoy, sorry for the delayed response and any confusion caused by pasting 'tail -f .bitcoin/debug.log | grep height' output rather than full debugs.
TomServo: mod6: No more blocks. Stuck at 458052 for a few days now. Restarted once so far. Still have 3 peers.
trinque: TomServo: no problems upping now?
TomServo: trinque: Aside from my syntax flailing? No. Thank you.
trinque: It’s not going to be armies, in pretty uniforms, fighting pitched, conventional battles. It’s going to be a matter of assassination, sabotage, hit-and-run raids, targeting ideological leadership figures, enemy families, etc. << I doubt this. Where are these leadership figures?
trinque: the most crippling of the day's mental disorders is narcissism. they, no matter which they, aren't going to follow *anyone*.
trinque: and obviously I'm not calling leadership a matter of humility. the narcissism is all through the ranks.
trinque: these fuckers are going out tweeting their molotovs as a matter of social signaling
trinque: thing's gonna smolder, not explode.
mod6: asciilifeform: I wonder iTomServo might try cutting off the latest blk#####.dat file? thoughts?
mod6: using blkcut? that might be worthwhile
mod6: ah, yeah thats better. we don't need 69,000 blocks. just the last, probabaly 20.
mod6: or ya, 12 or whatever.
mod6: ah, ok. thought you meant the header.
mod6: getting the sha512 of the entire bytes of a block seems useful
mod6: yeah, 'tis a good idea.
TomServo: Just so I understand, survey says? Node is fucked, may have forensic value?
mod6: we need a way to rebuild the index.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 20:47 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632355 << orlol discussed this, and it was 100% true, 'homo americanus' has some very serious damage that is very expensive to build prosthesis for -- he has no family , no friends, no one will lend him money other than at extortionate rates, has no one alive whom he could live with in small hut, 5 to 10 sq. metres, without killing one another
mod6: TomServo: Do you have any backups of your chain at all?
trinque: which is why he's got nothing but "no one will come to my pistol classes :(" at the end
TomServo: mod6: Yes, but not a terribly recent one unfortunately.
mod6: You could roll back to your latest backup I suppose, but using your chain for forensics is really a good idea so we can try to extrapolate some causation.
trinque: kinda hard to square "turn the other cheek" and "render unto caesar" with ~doing anything~
☟︎ trinque: utterly feminizing religion (at least the widely practiced version in the states).
TomServo: mod6: Gotcha. I'll try and perserve this as is and follow up later. Thanks.
mod6: If you wanna work on something here quick, get familiar with dumpblock and dump the last 12 blocks for us perhaps.
trinque: that may be the one actual advantage with the black hoodie kids. if nothing else, they haven't got sky-dad keeping them up at night.
mod6: TomServo: as a side note, I've been watching MST for the first time. show is hilarious. i had no idea bout your nick. :]
mod6: meanwhile, I'll see what i can do in the next few days about putting together alf's suggested patch
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> trinque: the mexicans, with their nominal christianity, iirc, seem to demolish the blacks wherever the turf wars include both. so maybe not so simple. << Aha, Catholic v. Protestant
mod6: asciilifeform: ah, fair enough. but yeah, could be handy.
trinque: the protestant thing was in the first place a rejection of teh catholic "corruption"
☟︎ trinque: catholic seems much more likely to sin now, pray later
pete_dushenski: he's a phd computing science student of some description. decent blogger too.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> catholic seems much more likely to sin now, pray later << AKA, infrustructre to handle need for believers to do "necessary" "evils"
☟︎ mod6: well, i agree it never should happen.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 16:10 asciilifeform: 'Hello asciilifeform I see on coin.dance/nodes , The Real Bitcoin is listed with the 'Emergent Consensus' feature tag. Could you tell me if that's accurate - will you follow a HF to > 1MB , and could you tell me anything about how it's implemented in TRB ? Thx!'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 17:34 asciilifeform: incidentally : asciilifeform's muscle memory never recovered, still has to look up the commands ~every~ ~single~ ~fucking~ time.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 18:06 asciilifeform: ' Rich Felker Retweeted Adora Cheung @nolimits Mar 23 Last month another investor asked a female founder/CEO to search for a white male to replace her as CEO. Also uninvited.'
mircea_popescu: takes a jack warner to build a company and a carly fiorina to burn it down.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 18:29 phf: oh, that's different group though. it's the "girl hacker" community
mircea_popescu: girl hacker or no girl hacker it'll still be save the flying pandas, guns kill people, abortion doesn't kill people, can't say nigger and our democracy etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 18:29 shinohai: Good God is OSS full of women with penises nau ?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-27#1632872 << that's pretty much the required blue pill. it's either this or else no possiblity of "our democracy". kinda what the whole "toxic ideas" is all about : here's the set of notions that make an indefensible, unfundamented belief in our religious tenets untenable.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 18:36 ben_vulpes: apparently children shouldn't worry about making judgements about the world. or maybe just some subset of the world. it's unclear, but i think it would be grand if we all skipped along thinking that everything is hunky-dory because who am i to judge?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 18:41 danielpbarron: a friend of mine is dealing with social workers trying to take his kids away, in part -- i think, because his oldest has been repeating some of the things i taught him to his teachers in school
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-27#1632890 << there's a reason mp opts not to live in the us, however. that shit works if there's a happy meeting of one's network with the general prevalence of sane people. if your network is 1k deep and sane people are 10k ppm, it works fine. if your network is 10 deep and sane people are 10 ppm, you're about five degrees of magnitude short meaning roughly speaking it'll work once every 10k t
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-27 19:28 ben_vulpes: can also attempt a mircea_popescu, and go after the cps officer in question personally for making shit up
mircea_popescu: at some point cca 2012 i was trying to get him to get the lab into building miners. it never took off though.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1632906 << lightning just struck again. truth is, the world of actual competence / unsuck is truly tiny. there's a marked difference between type A "i saw a chick, do you know her ?" "no" and type A' "i saw this chick driving a red porsche, and she was without a doubt the most aggressive driver i ever saw. and incredibly fucking hot too!" "ah, that's jane,"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 02:00 phf: in practice last two times i was asked that, i knew the vadim etc. in question. it's still a funny question tho
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1632918 << this happens to be entirely false. the contrary view is based on the same shaky basis "global warming" is based : taking the past 20 years and "extrapolating" it into "history". in point of fact most wars in history (in the sense of 90%+) were won by the right. the incidental social turbulence caused by the tailwinds of industrialization make this look different. but even pre 1950,
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 03:48 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'The Left has won far more dirty civil wars and insurgent conflicts than the Right has won. There are a host of reasons for this, but most notable is the aversion, on the Right, to give up the security of law-and-order. ' << tru!
mircea_popescu: the left got crushed systematically and everywhere. franco passed, the brown shirts used the commies for pissing practice etc.
mircea_popescu: it's a sweet dream this, that leftard boy has a chance in the world. nothing more than a dream, though. in reality, leftard boy is dogmeat.
mircea_popescu: being left is generally the macula of stupidity ; but in matters of conflict is just the convenient excuse of losers looking for an excuse to lose (for full discussion of how this works, review the hustler, magical jew there explains the process).
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:12 mod6: we need a way to rebuild the index.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:20 asciilifeform: trinque: the mexicans, with their nominal christianity, iirc, seem to demolish the blacks wherever the turf wars include both. so maybe not so simple.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:24 trinque: the protestant thing was in the first place a rejection of teh catholic "corruption"
pete_dushenski: catholic corruption certainly made for some beautifully crafted churches, most of which are still enjoyed today even by non-catholics (maybe especially)
mircea_popescu: "For two days, according to insiders, Holmes, who is now 32, had refused to address these concerns. Instead, she remained largely holed up in a conference room, surrounded by her inner circle. Half-empty food containers and cups of stale coffee and green juice were strewn on the table as she strategized with a phalanx of trusted advisers, including Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani, then Theranos’s president and C.O.O.; Heather Ki
mircea_popescu: ng, the company’s general counsel; lawyers from Boies, Schiller & Flexner, the intrepid law firm; and crisis-management consultants. Most of the people in the war room had been there for two days and nights straight, according to an insider, leaving mainly to shower or make a feeble attempt at a couple of hours of shut-eye. There was also an uncomfortable chill in the room. At Theranos, Holmes preferred that the temperature
mircea_popescu: be maintained in the mid-60s, which facilitated her preferred daily uniform of a black turtleneck with a puffy black vest—a homogeneity that she had borrowed from her idol, the late Steve Jobs."
mircea_popescu: psssh. "women ceo" of the libertard variety, "celebrity" bla bla, "billionaire by x". what the fuck does anyoine expect out of the soap opera circuit ?
mircea_popescu: of course there's a soap opera coming out the other end. what the fuck else ? people who can't think "starting" "companies" hurr.
mircea_popescu: “a chemistry is performed so that a chemical reaction occurs and generates a signal from the chemical interaction with the sample, which is translated into a result, which is then reviewed by certified laboratory personnel.”
diana_coman: mod6, list of deps for trb from what I gathered on a fresh, minimal centos box: bc, gcc, g++, gpg, wget, perl, patch, rsync, sha512sum, unzip
mircea_popescu: on a 100mbit link should take no more than half an hour!
diana_coman: ha, wb mircea_popescu ; I left it on its own after I saw it was going ok, haven't quite timed it
diana_coman: anyway, gotta say that mod6's script and docs were great and very, very helpful
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: and Buenas dias Sr. mircea_popescu , wb o/
shinohai: It's like digging through the landfill hoping to find that HDD you threw away with 20 BTC on it back in 2010 at this point.
mircea_popescu: after all, the hos buy lipstick and it sure as fuck don't promise that to them does it.
shinohai: Out of every ~1000 contacts a week, < 10 seem to even give a shit about Bitcoin. Yet endless complaints about chargebacks and scams on other platforms.
shinohai: I now know how you and hanbot musta felt when you tried to *give* camgirls btc a few years back.
mircea_popescu: im still in disbelief about that not wholly digested experience.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i recall the correct way to get dumb 16yo chicks to shave their snatch was to convince the other girls that it's declase. then they convince each other.
mircea_popescu: perhaps appealing to their vanity will work where appealing to their absent intelligence failed ; after all everyone's got a vanity.
mircea_popescu: leaviong aside the lulz of windows titles for a moment.
shinohai: "Thus I think Mircea Popescu either hasn't thought this out entirely or he is counting on someone like myself (i.e. the sovereign republic) to fix it."
shinohai also doesn't have an avi of himself wearing his fucking hat backwards
mircea_popescu: not a matter of photoshop. besides i have a whole [unpublished] fucking set with them. and for that matter while she may be smarter than him, she's certainly braver seeing how she DID talk to mp eh.
shinohai: "But I couldn't even stay in the USA, because I am such a rebel. " <<< Like asciilifeform, my dosimeter is nearing max
mircea_popescu: (anyway, ftr i do not dispute the "So this exemplifies that MP makes mistakes, is reckless, duplicitous, and may be borderline lunatic/sociopath who could lose his mind at some point and totally REKT Bitcoin. We do not have decentralization with Satoshi's PoW." concept. examples are not needed ; mp is indeed all the above and more.)
shinohai: Or, mp may outsmart all you top minds on tardstalk/reddit - but perhaps I am biased.
mircea_popescu: i was born of a woman in the usual way ; perhaps fit for friendship but certainly not fit for public worship. it may work in private with my own sluts, but that is an insanely narrow and controlled environment.
mircea_popescu: didn't the guy end up with a few week's enforced relaxation because he attempted to reorganize some hotel/resort he didn't own or somesuch feats of confusion ?
mircea_popescu: it was a pretty lulzy thread, something with a sauna. 2014ish or such.
shinohai: Oh so THATS who this guy is .... anonymint
mircea_popescu: dude how the fuck are 100ms roundtrips possible to mp's interface in the middle of fucking goatland i have nfi. there's a half mile 20% average climb to get to his crow's nest.
mircea_popescu: also any kind of anything would stick out as a fucking sore thumb out here. unless of course evil imperial agents learn how to drive donkey uphill just like the locals.
mircea_popescu: and i can't tell you how fucking great it is to not find oneself in a country as despicably idiotic, either. people shouldn't live with people they hate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not mega seekrit, but momentarily seekrit owing to the procedings in the last trilema article
mircea_popescu: perhaps in time that becomes a social game. "where-in-the-world-is-mircea_popescu ?" now from tabletop, inc.
Framedragger: well so far all i've got is that camera temperature was allegedly 29 degrees (C) which makes me to conclude after careful consideration that it must be "some place real warm at night". :)
mircea_popescu: but frozen it was not, owing to all the vegetation, so there is that.
Framedragger: no snow! it's actually spring here (or well, was yesterday lol, good enough for a nice picnic), and ~here~ is scotland, down south could be even better
Framedragger: and in general were snow to appear, they would go bonkers. like for instance use rakes in edinburgh to try to make it disappear from streets (duly observed)
mircea_popescu: do they also have no nudity at public park laws or didn't check ?
mircea_popescu: fucking stupid. wtf is a park for if not naked dogs and naked women.
mircea_popescu: incidentally... they fucking dress dogs now, don't they. nuts.
Framedragger: oh yeah! nuts indeed :( sad view. and in general parks are a bore in the uk
mircea_popescu: and to think it is all backed with the nonsensical belief that THINGS WOULD HAPPEN!!1
Framedragger: i'm sure that down south they'd also patronisingly stare at you if you dared smoke a cigarette in a park. the scottish at least tend to give less of a fuck, but still a nanny state 100%
mircea_popescu: what the everloving fuck will happen. nothing happens. dudes who don't have the balls to talk to women dressed sure as fuck won't talk to them naked.
mircea_popescu: though it's true the dogs seem to love the idea. "finally! a sane human! ima go right there and lick hi to her!"
Framedragger: reminds me of your story about observing a dog which attempted to systematically find a new owner. sanest mammal in town sorta deal
mircea_popescu: there's this runaway effect of unbounded self-referential complexity whereby everyone long forgot why the fuck they were doing the thing 184 steps back that "it all" supposedly rests on.
mircea_popescu: the brighest dogs have iqs in the 30-40 range, and yet they can beat the average human in ~average human~ contexts. what could be more humiliating of a "culture" i can not imagine.
Framedragger: balancing the democracy stack takes up lotsa memory...
Framedragger: somehow reminds me of a theory in social neuroscience (not original of course) whereby genesis of 'self-awareness' is attributed to buildup of neural machinery to predict what the other social animals in a group are doing/thinking. you end up having to predict what the other animal is predicting *you* to be doing, hence have to have a model of your own attention/awareness.
Framedragger: but it's *expensive* and there are lots of ways to short-circuit the mechanism (cheating the award mechanism to think you've accomplished something, etc.) not rigorous at all but yeah
mircea_popescu: i recall this thing was one of the (many) post-bicameral-world-excitement byproducts. it failed to go very far.
mircea_popescu: the notion, in the abstract, of POE seems splendidly meaningful to excplain cognitive evolutionarily ; but any attempt to pin it down in practice went ~nowhere afaik.
Framedragger: guess so. (guess you can trace quite a bit of jaynes in it yeah.) not enough evidence for sure, and not concrete enough (to generate falsifiable predictions, etc.)
mircea_popescu: there may be fundamental problems with the very concept. (for instance : give an example of self-organizing heat exchange defect. "oh, life itself" what else ? "the tornado that happens in the drain". mmkay. the problem with not being able to give examples of a theory besides the item that prompted the theory is generally known as begging the question.
Framedragger: definitely some kind of circular presupposition yeah (+ "i love recursion!!!" "i've read hofstadter" vibe)
Framedragger: idea is stimulating to me but maybe that's about it.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with a little bit of aesthetics. but you certainly noticed the very strongly monotonous abstractization function of actual knowledge. what starts life as banal observatrion of natural numbers ends up linked to ever more complex manifestations in who knows what algebra / space / etc.
mircea_popescu: here, however, no such evolution. makes one fear the idea is actually sterile.
mircea_popescu: ie, "this sounds great and explains nothing" ; much like the void thinking (void) ai program.
Framedragger: i guess so - it doesn't seem capable of leading one anywhere, so to speak. (this connects with (again) "generates nothing to be falsified"). iirc they tried to connect with "mirror neurons" etcetc "look we make it more concrete", but it was too eclectic / a cheat (don't recall, for anyone curious the article in question was iirc
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3223025/ )
mircea_popescu: consider eg a * b > a + b. this is basically cauchy pared down. that there's no direct path from one to the other is the only last nail of hope (but mp, just because we've not found yet why it's fundamental doesn't prove it isn't. sure.)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yep that's exactly the sadness, that all attempts ended up smoke or mirrors.
mod6: hai mircea_popescu, wb!
mod6: I knew it couldn't have far off given recent bs in the former locale.
mircea_popescu: the difference is palpable, too. me in computer store, sits down in char. "can i buy this ?" "uh... it's the display..." "you have no others ?" "brb i'll check"
mircea_popescu: guy comes back later, to tell me they have no others ; and i can buy that one. takes it over to dispatch, "Hey, can you take this chair apart and pack it ?" "i'd love to."
mod6: So i bought one of those rigol MSO1104Z-S deals, and a bunch of stuff. couple raspberry pi's, three arduinos and a fairly large kit of sorts.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i'm like... finally! people! doing commerce irl!~ << aha, nice.
mircea_popescu: we prolly should put one up just to mess with people. it's not THAT expensive by now.
shinohai buys a fuckton of weather balloons from Amazon .....
mod6: i did wanna get a few xilinx boards to play with... but first ill see what I can learn with the other stuff I got. i also bought a soldering iron.
☟︎ mod6: so we'll see what kind of mess i can make. haha
mod6: thought it might be worthwhile to learn a thing or two anyway.
mod6: and it's a fairly inexpensive foray into some of that. for educational purposes.
mircea_popescu: great career path anyway. i never heard of an unemployed hardware negineer.
mod6: I think I started thinking about it a lot more recently when pondering the auditing process of FGs.
mod6: Now, alf has a bunch of steps on NSA's website. But the gears were turning before hand.
mod6: I won't let it side track me from my main work. Just something to futz with here and there.
mircea_popescu: the more a man knows, the better a man he is. i wouldn't worry about it.
mircea_popescu: certainly as far as my own experience goes, just about all i know i learned while neglecting homework.
shinohai: It's a fun diversion. I have a plastic tub full of resistors, ic's, etc. I got for pennies when local radioschack shat
shinohai: Occasionally a project presents itself.
mod6: mircea_popescu: hah, sounds kinda familiar.
mod6: I also bought this huge whiteboard ; 6'x4'
mod6: i realized when trying to diagram out, for instance, the notated split of trb.node with trb.wallet (posted in logs a little while back) that I didn't have enough paper on 8.5"x11"
shinohai would like to thank Forrest Mims for printing decent book I could understand at 8 and building lifelong obsession
mod6: The thinking was, now I can diagram the things, post an image, have the other republicans look it over, and agree/disagree. Then it can become part of the ticket that gets entered, or at least linked in the notes section.
mod6: I hope it'll spur some collaboration anyway.
mircea_popescu: ie, slides AS YOU DESCRIBE THEM (here's a shot of a whiteboard from another room, comment) work ; but the idiocy normally deployed by the empire tards does not.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform irl we had blackboards ; and every teacher had asthma.
mircea_popescu: (somebody came up with bright idea of making cone out of paper, filling with ground up chalk, then pumping it out of the narrow end. DESASTER!!! followed.
shinohai: I thought I recalled an article somewhere where these parents successfully sued a school for forcing their son to clap erasers as punishment because he developed breathing issues ....
mircea_popescu: that was one of the very few administrative rules that got actually obeyed. ~nobody wanted to see a rehash of the white horror.
mircea_popescu: shinohai is that pizza slice a reference to the 4chan child pron thing ?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> i like everything about whiteboards save for the smell (and how they get porous and uneraseable over fairly short time) << on the latter part here, i agree. i kinda made a mistake. the one i bought is ~ok~, but when it starts to get bad, I'm gonna buy a new one that is glass.
mod6: those ones never go bad.
mircea_popescu: mod6 buy the nice bohemian glass. (shards sold to idiots as "swarowski crystals" hurr). those also never scratch.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, thanks for the tip!
mod6: asciilifeform: noted.
ben_vulpes: old windows with the backs painted are a pleasing aesthetic alt
ben_vulpes: alternative to sterile white patches on the wall
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what, they mount fake painted windows to cube walls to convince drones the building has more ports than it actually does but painted over for security?
ben_vulpes: i'm not saying /paint your windows/ i'm saying salvage some vintage hardwood window frames that don't seal, lack double-panes etc, and do something pretty with them.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1064.02, vol: 8391.74520177 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1062.0, vol: 9709.32942 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1058.5, vol: 23558.13526354 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1006.491647, vol: 5672.15140000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1060.051, vol: 3714.36133046 | Volume-weighted last average: 1054.40694027
ben_vulpes: last set girl made me had this subtle hand-done white-on-off-white chevron pattern
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 15:03 mod6: i did wanna get a few xilinx boards to play with... but first ill see what I can learn with the other stuff I got. i also bought a soldering iron.
mircea_popescu: i think much like the gps of yore, "civillian" maps not militarily accurate
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform then how explain you the matchlessness of aerial photograph ?
mircea_popescu: (no joke, there's people whose whole career consists / ed of looking at grainy aerial barf to spot missile silos or whatnot)
mircea_popescu: about half of what droive the whole "image recognition ai" wank
mircea_popescu: though that more for bombing and such time-sensitive ops
mircea_popescu: prolly every other wifi hotspot broadcasts 3 decimal accurate longitude/latitude anyway
mthreat: mircea_popescu: en viaje - donde?
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: Sorry BingoBoingo .... can we strike the "an" from before "Ethereum-like bugs" ?
mod6: Today is like christmas.
mod6: FGs have arrived. :]
mod6: Cheers asciilifeform! Many thanks.
mod6: Very nice packaging I might add.
jurov: there's more versions
danielpbarron: btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1632959 << mp's advice of "flee the country" is in accordance with scripture.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:16 trinque: kinda hard to square "turn the other cheek" and "render unto caesar" with ~doing anything~
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 04:25 BingoBoingo: <trinque> catholic seems much more likely to sin now, pray later << AKA, infrustructre to handle need for believers to do "necessary" "evils"
mod6: Alright! FG unboxing pics:
shinohai: mircea_popescu: ever visited Valparaiso ?
mircea_popescu: brazil has some incredibly hot black women, but it's too hot altogether.
mircea_popescu: cheaper tro move the hotties than to alter the climate.
shinohai: In adition, Brazil has some some of the most callipygous ladies in SA
shinohai: oh sorry, sa for `South America`
shinohai looks at trilema article finally, sees "Linda Vista", thinks of Paraguay .....
shinohai: Perhaps he needs Indian slaves to work on the sugar plantation.
mthreat: how broad can we guess the location? can I start with continent?
mthreat wants to do this search in log(n) time
mircea_popescu: mthreat do what amuses you shall be the whole of the law!1
shinohai: He surely would not have went to Colombia without getting a copy of my slut list first.
mircea_popescu: mthreat in teh interest of human suffering and spurious torture ima limit the guesses to one per day per person. so tomorrow!
shinohai: kudos for stripping the exif data so we can't geolocate.
mircea_popescu: in other sad fucking news : i'm now buying fucking homeopathy products.
mircea_popescu: why ? because the imbeciles that there's no other "mainstream" idiots won't make toothpaste withouyt fluoride.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: austin's good, but i'm somewhere else at the moment. hint: i recently flew over butch cassidy's ranch house.
mircea_popescu: the insane dilutionist tribe - do. so what can i do ? i buy from the weirdos.
mircea_popescu: he bought it cvasi new and spent the first year dicking around with paperworks, i imaghine it still got years of juice.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "purchases credited to their accounts"?
mthreat: asciilifeform: it works, but i'm not flying it yet
mthreat: ya you need 1000 hours logged to get the type rating
ben_vulpes: where are my copy editing qntra shares
mthreat: actually i just had the houston vs. austin discussion this morning on another channel with some friends!
trinque: mircea_popescu: long as they keep the californians they imported, I'm fine with it.
ben_vulpes: anywhoodle, provisionally successful with gentoo quest ppc edition
☟︎ doppler: they're fun, *when they actually work* :)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what else would 'recipe' entail?
doppler: i've had to deal with lots of broken ones
ben_vulpes: doppler: in what ways do they typically go south?
doppler: power supply failure, liquid coolant leak, and just general motherboard stability
doppler: i suppose in the latter respect, they're no worse than the later G4s
phf: it idiotically relies on good old struct mapping
phf: you could probably get away with just patching serialize.h though since most of the rest of code relies on it (i.e. both networking and fs code)
BingoBoingo: If I recall a certain sede vacantist patched PRB in some way for big endian.
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CompanionCube: ben_vulpes: greetings. I saw you mention me in the logs.
ben_vulpes: aya, 'tis odd to see a feller rated in the #trilema wot but not...in #trilema
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CompanionCube: it was one of the things that tipped me over the fence from 'just reading' to 'might as well join now'
CompanionCube apologizes for the stupidity of the home secretary and UK government
ben_vulpes: you just don't get to run a payment processor in fiatlandia without being on a /really/ short leash.
Framedragger: CompanionCube: in my view they're just continuing on a well-set path... opportunistically used london terror attack to repeat 'e2e encryption is going away' to acclimatise folks when they're more 'receptive'... etc.
CompanionCube: Framedragger: it's to be expected - this isn't their first time around this merry-go-round obviously. At least Dorsey made sense unlike the homesec
CompanionCube: David Cameron was doing this same thing more or less the same time last year.
CompanionCube: Encryption backdoors would tail nicely with the Investigatory Powers Act and it's technical capability notices.
ben_vulpes: good luck sticking new backdoors in the old gpg source
shinohai: "We'll just make you new gcc compile backdoors into itself"
CompanionCube: shinohai: that would be at least interesting to look at and analyze
phf: no, because gb is roughly as relevant as albania
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a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 21:09 ben_vulpes: anywhoodle, provisionally successful with gentoo quest ppc edition
ben_vulpes: openbsd settles quite nicely onto old macs
ben_vulpes: what do you need with the firewire cable?
pete_dushenski: also cracked open mathematica 9 last night. lots on the plate!
pete_dushenski: you warn folks about looking out window, asciilifeform. watch out for black van stealing your turkey recipes!
ben_vulpes: what does asciilifeform use instead? maxima?
ben_vulpes: space in the "for your leftism" link too, if that's not the turd in q
doppler: phf: -- Motif graphics initialized --
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: please to beleet "%20" from last link there
CompanionCube: doppler: except for the nextsteppy clock in the top right
doppler: oh haha, i was referring to mathematica's init message
phf: oh, you meant "nope" in a sense that you're not going to run it. duly noted.
doppler: why is knuth's username "uno"?
phf: there's probably some obscure reason which warrants a detail footnote in one of this books. or you need to mail him a letter and he'll dedicate a detailed response to it
phf: but apparently he has a chinese name "gao dena" given to him by frances yao
phf: i think that was huai-dong cao, or maybe it was the xiping zhu. i don't remember now which one of those two was the main guy
phf: oh oh, shing-tung yau
phf: pretty sure can go to china now, ghost write for their mathematical aristocracy. it's now a well established russian tradition
ben_vulpes: welp emacs ~works on the ppc, insofar as emacs can be said to work
ben_vulpes: org-babel shat itself when a directory in the tempfiles path didn't exist up front
ben_vulpes: or perhaps the temporary file machinery itself shat itself
ben_vulpes: either way, i crufted some state onto the station and it works now.
phf: if you're going to try crosscompiling things from one openbsd machine to your older ppc boxes make sure you have the right os versions set. the abi changes, and that bit me a few times
phf: in fact, i static linked a copy of trb on a recent machine (5.6 say), and then moved it to a libretto (that was running 5.3 or whatever) and the binary booted and worked, but then silently failed on some system calls.
phf: it's not the static linking that gets you, it's the lack of stable abi. binary loads, but fails to do the right thing on system call
phf: "we shat in your soup. we then threw out all the soup utensils, who eats soup with shit anyway, fuck is wrong wit you!1"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 22:32 asciilifeform: 'The situation is somewhat akin to a retarded girlfriend trying to flood your apartment, that not only opens all the faucets and stops all the drains, but also takes the "extremely clever" measure of puncturing the water pipes, so she can then preciously inform you that "turning off the faucets won't help" and you must work with her to somehow create a raft out of your widescreen TV so as to navigate the marshy terrain that used to b