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ben_vulpes: so xorg-
drivers 1.18-r1 pulls in xorg-server-1.19.3, which pulls in xorg-
drivers-1.19.3 which conflicts with the requested version
ben_vulpes: most recent caltrop was that something in the xorg-
drivers tower of chairs wants a 5-series gcc
BingoBoingo: So far answer to that question is hand signals to other
drivers herbijudlestoids: I had a lot of fun reading the log today of asciilifeform talking about NIC
drivers ben_vulpes: trinque: this card may be old enough that i need a funky version of nvidia-
drivers mircea_popescu: you know, unlike you people, tru
drivers of your imaginary tractors / flying veyrons.
danielpbarron: most noobs do the windows thing and don't need the linux
drivers gabriel_laddel_p: The most programmable possible. Idc if this means somebody reverse engineered the
drivers, or it is documented, or it is simple enough that someone could revese engineer it, or or or
trinque: and then you go build all the
drivers elsewhere and come back
trinque: k, there is a check at the beginning of every module which involves "is this hardware present" for
drivers trinque: then you go build only the
drivers you need somewhere else and come back
mircea_popescu: pestilentially common, kernel with 5k modules and 100k
drivers trinque: or builds
drivers he doesn't use, even
mircea_popescu: so how are you participating in the anthill ? gimme something. you... go on the subway and talk to people ? use cabs, talk to the
drivers ? work in an office ? take the sluts to the campus and have them make out with random girls ? what, exactly, is the light illuminating this anthill ?
ben_vulpes: i discern that people are really bad
drivers mircea_popescu: rather than port extant
drivers to a twice defunct pile of code made by mit i'd rather paint tits on a boar.
phf: well, these "without master" conversation always remind me of the conversations i have with uber
drivers. "i'm my own boss, ese, can work whenever i want -- yeah, man, that's great, now turn left here"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 20:16 mircea_popescu: writing
drivers is two things : a) write the fw ; or b) call nvidia faggots on a mailing list.
mircea_popescu: writing
drivers is two things : a) write the fw ; or b) call nvidia faggots on a mailing list.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the expectation ot make an os and not have to write
drivers is the sweet sort of innocence usually reserved for coed sluts.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i've generally had very positive experiences with it. 95% excellent
drivers. 75% decent cars. proper taxi flips those two figures but also costs 20% more and wait times are unreliable.
mircea_popescu: you know those bumpers on speedway for sleepy truck
drivers ? that. except for mouthbreathing bipedals.
mircea_popescu: walter the scheme here proposed is that a project (linuxbios) which was useful on account of actually having
drivers for extant hardware was killed by hardware maker conspiracy. on its now useless ruins, as it's dead, an idiot with a "sexual identity" political agenda tried to build a grassroot activism thing called libreboot ; and some unrelated packrats with a penchant for software try to build a cluttered warehouse called
jurov: you will backport
drivers to ancient X server?
jurov: there are still too many moving parts, what do you do when you find catastrophic bug in X, or it has only hardware
drivers for devices that can't be bought anymore?
ben_vulpes: also on an ancient thread, horses are allowed on many oregon roads and highways, because this place was barely a place before the sixties. there are a pile of questions in the
drivers exam here regarding how to behave around horses, even.
mircea_popescu: travolta goes there to decompress, when he gets fucking sick of smartass cab
drivers, ironic waitresses and whatnot other "i'm only doing this until" idiots.
BingoBoingo: at all. I guess companies don't care how much damage is done by inexperienced forklift
drivers."
BingoBoingo: And the cherry: "I've been driving forklifts for over 35 years. Sit down propane,electric,single forks,double forks,bale clamps and stand up narrow isle reach and anywhere I worked bosses were impressed with my work. No accidents and can drive circles around some of the forklift
drivers I worked with. I was making $21.50 an hour until my place closed down. Now they pay $8-$13 an hour,$13 being high and don't need much experience if none
Framedragger: "More worrisome part of the feature is that it injects software that updates
drivers, firmware, and other pre-installed apps onto Windows machine – even if you wiped the system clean." LOL
mircea_popescu: anyway - a tightly coupled video-ram bridge would even do away with the dumbass "
drivers" and etc.
jurov: mepian: because
drivers/interfaces for recent enough FPGAs are yet higher level of closedturdedness
davout: which kinda looks like a badly forged
drivers license a 20-yo ustard would use to go have drinks
phf: i've had on linux nic
drivers before and in 2005 or so not all of them were 20k+ lines that's for sure
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the tasks are here in my vierws overstated. linux had the tasks as hard as described, and it did break through, on shittier internet with fewer people milling about. lisp already has c code it can read for many of the
drivers etc. this is major advantage. easier job to come 2nd.
phf: the thing that ascii mentions he'd pay for "cmucl on hardware" explicitly involves ripping out C code and then doing necessary work to support some minimum set of x86
drivers like keyboards etc.
pete_dushenski: obviously a 'cap' of 1.5x surge pricing is retarded and doesn't prevent
drivers from being yahoos and scamming riders, as happened to yours truly last month in mtl when driver intentionally disobeyed my command and that of his gps toy and intentionally took wrong turn 'by accident' that led to a detour almost doubling the mileage of the trip
mircea_popescu: in the absence of economic
drivers, there will either be a political driver or no movement. which leaves us with the simple explanation. i don't gotta prove that every single individual woman thought of dick up her ass every time she spent too much money on cosmetics.
Framedragger: god damn it. i wanted to check how limnoria does irc reconnect, and it starts out with a nice SupyReconnectingFactory(ReconnectingClientFactory,
drivers.ServersMixin). which doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, but is in sharp contrast to trinque's short code. lol.
mircea_popescu: this thing works. and it works in a very messy environment - gfx
drivers, a raft of dependencies, etc.
phf: i'd say peak free software happened around same time when
drivers were still a massive problem. when i moved to this country somebody gave me a g3 ibook, which i used for years to run linux (until i finally caved and switched to os x). i remember spending as much time on my fvwm as i did patching orinoco
drivers. in fact my first massive foray into kernel hacking was getting those orinoco
drivers to work for specific combination of
ben_vulpes: nor are these "daily
drivers", being nearly antiques already
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: my understanding of the present situation is that the linux kernel is here to stay, as it is a result of the way that the cee machine works, and contains
drivers for a bunch of useful hardware
mircea_popescu: you know, someone had a similar problem due to ancient gfx card / old
drivers or somesuch. iirc there's a solution to tone down world items.
pete_dushenski: "I typically pay $5 to $10 to charge up. Every single station has been, for years, mediocre to terrible. The stations are often broken due to software or hardware problems, and remain out of service for weeks. Competition among electric car
drivers for these public charging stations is fierce and intensifying. It’s practically impossible for me to find an open charging station during the day."
mircea_popescu: there's no point in the sense of "this is what we're trying to accomplish". there's a few
drivers ; and logically some likely outcomes. should i enumerate ?
Framedragger: phf: the latter is true i suppose, but on stable hardware configurations the"
drivers" etc prolly does not apply. but sure, size etc
phf: Framedragger: linux is worst is better in this case. it sucks in the same way freebsd sucks, but it has more support, more software, more
drivers, etc.
pete_dushenski: o hey no one died in an open-cockpit racer this morning in baku. who would've predicted that raising a generation of
drivers who've known neither injury nor death, no matter the speeds and stupidity of their crashes, would lead to a buncha fuckin pussies the likes of which are suitable only for perfume advertisements
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is rather notable though that the largest threat perceived by muppets and their
drivers alike is "mp doing things". far, FAR above you know, their shitpile collapsing in a loud mess, the ONE thing that's worth expending the unhappeningium is, mp!
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, the argentines are THE WORST
drivers. horribad. you know how latinos in the civilised world have a bad reputation ? well... im sure argentina is the reason for it. they signal ~1/3 of the time, you gotta guess they intend to turn or not - AND they have no conception of blinker fluid or any other way means or conceptual approach for the problem. it's just not fucking there. idjits.)
mircea_popescu: and as to the other thing : numbers per se are meaningless. if there's a million truck
drivers in the world, and 999`990 use a truck that does 10 mpg and i have 10 people using a truck that does 12 mpg, guess who'll be selling and who'll be buying trucking companies in the not so distant future.
phf: so they have a linux kernel manage the processes, and then they write keyboard/"console"/mouse
drivers for it
pete_dushenski: "
Drivers may notice a decrease in fuel efficiency of between 5 and 32 percent, depending on climate, engine model year, and driving habits. Some
drivers may also notice a decrease in power under certain conditions, such as full-throttle driving or highway operation. In some tests, the power rating of the VW TDI engine was affected by as much as 26 percent during full-throttle operation in cold climates. Finally, the increas
phf: uber
drivers "mang you pay 1500 for yo plaaaas, should move to upper spring heights mang [20 minutes driving from metro, 10 minutes driving from any semblance of food] pay seven hundraaaayd. is cheap!"
mod6: so i/o
drivers need to be written by hand alf?
mod6: dads who drive minivans are the most aggressive
drivers on the imho
adlai: at least parlimentary democracies float up lulz like "Party for Men's Rights, and Those of Taxi
Drivers" (rough translation)
BingoBoingo: If alarm was raised in time those
drivers would have normally stayed home, but because they were not explicitly told road is slick all suffer
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yes. Very little snow, but enough to cull weakest
drivers.
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : a) they're less resilient than you imagine them to be ; b) they're more rewritable than you imagine them to be ; c) keepi9ng them around requires keeping a whole pile of kludge that never worked right (cd
drivers etc).
BingoBoingo: So, I'm thinking about returning to linux... maybe. Any idea if RadeonSI
drivers would work on a musl kernel?