ben_vulpes: aah, i get it. ycombinator is buying their way out of the sins of refusing to disavow thiel by "funding" the aclu.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: nono, i said it therefore it is
BingoBoingo: Well in their words, YCuminasser is teaching ACLU how to spend money
BingoBoingo: Nah, very R-elephant. ACLUOMGWTFBBQ and all along with their donors have been spending, spending, spending these past 11 days. Their march to povertree is lulzy
shinohai: O hey that guy finally dropped by mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: ah yeah, came same day. turns out he just runs the blog though
ben_vulpes: nevertheless, a man in my wot republished it and so i did not have to go looking for it myself when the time came.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: any idea who came up with the re-alloying trick?
ben_vulpes: > while etymologists concur, there is no b in plover
mod6: oh, whoops. looks like i forgot what year it is.
mircea_popescu: likely story. your flimsy cover-up of the time travel technology is not convincing anyone mod6
mod6: a few months back, i actually said it was "October" when it was in fact, November. No one said anything though. Every now and again, one sneaks by me.
mod6: maybe going forward, i'll add the most recent block height in there.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 968.43, vol: 10702.30820958 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 948.223, vol: 8336.63461 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 967.84, vol: 23097.46684426 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 983.635362, vol: 8906.83050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 968.508, vol: 3560.07076641 | Volume-weighted last average: 967.580662979
BingoBoingo: "SEA delivered a counter-offer on December 12. It was a 15-year contract, which Wright admits was a stretch. He has since been lampooned for this ask in Crain’s Business."
BingoBoingo: “They started with three [years], we came back with 15, and we expected to negotiate somewhere around seven to ten years.”
phf: trying to interact with technology from middle of nowhere makes me question why i even do it to begin with. "Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 90"
ben_vulpes: > Fog gem may have cleaned out older backups.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no that's ~exactly~ what they both earned and deserve. i wasn't kidding re memory holing the other day, the plan literally is for EVERYTHING empire made to get permanently lost. from wikipedia on.
mircea_popescu: yeah and there totally wasn't like, an article describing the policy years ago either.
mircea_popescu kinda loves the mutation of the advertising copy into a fake problems narrative, also. "oh there are problems but the valiant soviets!"
mircea_popescu: and, amusingly enough, wikipedia thinks alla kushnir is a mediocre russian-jewish chess player from before the war.
shinohai: I'm trying to talk indiancandy into doing bellydancing, for diversity.
mircea_popescu: talk therapy has its limits. from experience girl was either into bellydancing when she was 9, or else she either bellydances or gets the hose again.
shinohai: It's hard to find interesting ideas for camgirl that refuses to use a dildo or other penetrative props
shinohai: Well kinda, but usually it's simple "Wanna write numbers on tits for Trilema?" or something similar and I get mah 10% and move on lol
mircea_popescu: as teh linked "song" sez, "the father of many cunts worth money doesn't sleep"
mircea_popescu: shl 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 1 overflows but 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 4 does not ?
mircea_popescu: compiler must make all shift instructions shift by 1 then./
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology.
☟︎ deedbot: aseriousgogetta voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: aseriousgogetta: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
aseriousgogetta: he is a loving alcoholic & he works sun-up to sun-down doing all he can. i love my dad.
shinohai: Here in #trilema we have help for alkys
jhvh1: 1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
trinque: aseriousgogetta: how did you find your way in?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 15:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i didn't before understand that i fully agree with you, x86 / x64 is a doomed technology.
aseriousgogetta: Application Specific, so let's flash these ROM's to mine moar!
trinque: per the rules of disorganized angry mob, trump guy lost
trinque: sign-waving right is lamest right
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: fromdeedbot: hi, who are you?
fromdeedbot: trinque: i was actually looking around online to see what you were up to these days. its been a while
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
trinque: fromdeedbot: well, if you want to let me know who, I might rate you. otherwise enjoy the logs.
fromdeedbot: trinque: word, does the name plauche ring any bells?
trinque: heh, howdy, long time indeed.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: yes. just like pilot killed during cuban missile crisis died in "training accident" :P
shinohai: goddamn asciilifeform ... just one day after that heli crash @ Ft. Campbell
scriba: ssh banner of 70.104.21.130 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
Framedragger: guess that at this point it'd be great if it gave *more* info, huh. (server hello from :80 / :443, etc.) if anyone wants to work on latter while i'm busy with unrelated things, could provide current code / info on setup
jhvh1: shinohai: {'city': 'Denton', 'region_name': 'TX', 'area_code': 940, 'longitude': -97.1264, 'country_code3': 'USA', 'latitude': 33.183400000000006, 'postal_code': '76205', 'dma_code': 623, 'country_code': 'US', 'country_name': 'United States'}
jhvh1: *thumbsup* shinohai
Framedragger: my initial optimistic idea was to s/yearly/monthly/ or even weekly :) (certainly possible, and automatable.) will have to wait. but at least yearly -- certainly (not too much effort for latter, i think)
jhvh1: !$ssh 79.98.25.182
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
Framedragger: ^ oh, that's a bug, should only be one of those.
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
mircea_popescu gets to "as i got in my lyft back home", entirely loses interest.
mircea_popescu: whatever the fuck "kieryn fartwater" has to say doesn't really belong written
ben_vulpes: that poll booth operators have the money for cabs astonishes me
mircea_popescu: lyft is a cab in the sense urban slum dwellings are homes.
ben_vulpes: hey i saw a mercedes with an uber and lyft sticker yesterday
ben_vulpes: heinous abuse of capital equipment, but it beats a prius
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes and i saw a rich "sv culture" dork and a talented madonna.
mircea_popescu: idem heinous abuse of capital equipment ; but it's how socialism attempts to sell its hamburgers
ben_vulpes: hard to even get excited about even a brand new mercedes
ben_vulpes: "oh cool honda civics now come with turbos standard"
ben_vulpes: "i guess that's cool if you can stomach 'new cars'"
ben_vulpes: you take that back a turbocharger is not a rev bump
Framedragger: (re. "contains", since it's a.. nuanced bot, it was actually meant to work correctly, i.e. did not confuse "contains" with "starts with", so.. need to look at it to understand wtf.)
trinque: aha, I saw a bentley the other day that had only two seats
trinque: apparently it is only for your driver
ben_vulpes: nuanced == "spilling out of head through ears"?
mircea_popescu: "this is a nuanced patient" "yes but why nuances of dark purple".
scriba: ssh banner of 85.125.140.228 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 79.98.25.182 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-2ubuntu2.7
mircea_popescu: are you doing basic science on your software Framedragger ?
Framedragger: yes, *some*. but not enough automation, apparently; and not enough falsification in this case, as is very much apparent :/ should have been an obvious catch by either automated test or at least manual test. was (very shamefully) a wee bit too lazy with this last command.
deedbot: fromsiphnos voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: oh, are you the austrian dude who emailed fd@mkj.lt once? (given that you connected from vienna just now) :)
fromsiphnos: well , i was curious as to what kind of infos are there on the above site you mentionated
Framedragger: i suppose it's not documented anywhere properly as of yet, hm! fromsiphnos, are you by chance familiar with the `ssh-keyscan` tool (bundled in by default in the openssh package). it's basically output from that tool, plus a list of all IP addresses which can be connected to on port 22.
fromsiphnos: i am familiar yes ! but i was curious to find out, how did you managed to scan around 15 mil + ip's to find their banners and their keys
Framedragger: the former (ssh-keyscan output) is basically, ssh-rsa public keys, plus ssh server banners (ssh hello's).
Framedragger: good question, and yet another shameful instance of my backlog (in an ideal world, you would find an article in regards to that on the most esteemed news source,
http://qntra.net/ )
fromsiphnos: are you saying you actually can access those ip's ?
Framedragger: (the siphnos datadrop (
http://siphnos.mkj.lt/datadrop/) gives the banners ("banners" folder) and keys (in various formats), including raw ssh-keyscan output (*_scan.tar.bz2), as e,N,IP CSVs (e-N-IP*), a.k.a. tmsr format, and converted openpgp (rfc4880) format.)
fromsiphnos: i think i agree with mircea_popescu here !
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: true that, no shit :( (funny thing, i ended up with two $jobs and $uni to finish. as i said before, looking forward to summer, which will be *much* easier, with $things finished.)
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: what do you mean by access? connect to, and get a login challenge from server? yes. access as in "hack da system" login access? no - this is *server* ssh key, not client
Framedragger: but good news, as asciilifeform et al. have pointed out before, a lot of client keys get generated on ssh servers. if random number generation or other things are broken on the latter, you can *derive* the (set of) the former, in some cases :)
Framedragger: i need to learn to use log-search quickly like you guyz
a111: Logged on 2016-11-17 16:02 Framedragger: in fact.. due to
https://hdm.io/tools/debian-openssl/ correctly pointing out that "This flaw is ugly because even systems that do not use the Debian software need to be audited in case any key is being used that was created on a Debian system.", someone should attempt botnet-brute-login to all 13M+ (i forget lol) ssh hosts with rng-fucked client keys.
fromsiphnos: botnet-brute-login like random user/pass ? worst brute force ever ..
fromsiphnos: yet, it seems it's the "only one out there"
Framedragger: so basically that's the kind of info available. more later, hopefully. there have been some scans of other ports on the ssh-broken (phucted, as in
http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/ ) boxes, etc.; but no central place for those scans.
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no, not user/pass, though one could try a bit of that, too, but as in, generate small set of "debianized" ssh client keys, and try all of'em. much smaller set. see logs above
fromsiphnos: i am not familiar with .. "try all of 'em" !
Framedragger: (i must point out that these sorts of scans are nothing unique at all.
https://scans.io/ offers data, for example, but i can't be arsed to make an account and check. mebbe sometime.)
Framedragger: (what is nice is not bullshitting around and just providing raw data (at least as one of the options)).
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: you'll need to learn things, this is not a (completely) trivial hacker-kiddo thing, in the sense of finding a list of "hackable" IPs on a forum and then trying user/pass pairs. :) you'd need to be understand how public key based authentication works, and what the distinction between a server ssh key and a client ssh key is.
mircea_popescu: and yet again passing silently over noob's failure to respond to "who are you" turns out to have been a stupid move.
shinohai pokes BingoBoingo awake to ask these questions.
fromsiphnos: are you guys the good guys ? or bad guys ?
Framedragger: fromsiphnos: no. if you don't answer that question, we are left to infer things on our own when you ask non-trivial questions, and people are busy.
Framedragger: (things such as level of knowledge, or who is your daddy.)
fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask !
☟︎ trinque: "hello fellow h@X0rZ, got any leet warez today?"
shinohai: !!rate Framedragger 1 #trilema, phuctor, scriba
shinohai: !!v 24A7507FADD549CDA356597F188F20AF23946E31BD72C4EB927EF0AC40880E55
deedbot: shinohai rated Framedragger 1 << #trilema, phuctor, scriba
shinohai: Sorry Framedragger shoulda done that sooner
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-01#1610795 << prety lulzy how the delusion of "independence" and "in control of self and own destiny" works in retards, too. this schmuck actually imagines himself in a position to... recognize, by himself, for himself, when he didn't understand something.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-02-01 21:50 fromsiphnos: if, there is something which i don't understand , ( i did understand all you were saying til now ) , I .. will ask !
mircea_popescu: the fact that he failed to understand something (and failed SILENTLY!11) a mere five minutes prior gives him no pause, much like any other socialist retard, "trust me, i'm a good guy" with blood and guts all over.
mircea_popescu: "i wouldn't steal, honest!" "why are you wearing 48 wrist watches on your arms ?" "oh... that's the soviet fashion. they're... um... gifts!"
shinohai: In Soviet Russia, watches wear YOU
mircea_popescu: if you win that bet i'll seriously start consulting you for financial advice.
ben_vulpes: "come on down to ben_vulpes' discount lolzporium!"
shinohai: One single bet could make your lolzporium more profitable than OpenBazaar ben_vulpes
shinohai: This model may require further research.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: it's simple, you just have to correctly price the paper that everyone else has mispriced.
mircea_popescu: didn;'t they ban pretty much everything non conde nast last year anyway ?
shinohai: Was surprised they didn't do it pre election
mircea_popescu: foregone conclusion anyway, i see zero possibility of outfits like iab / conde nast / the atlantic / new york times / guardian / etcetera borrowing in the future. they won't be able to finance ops, and so it's myspace time for them all.
ben_vulpes: shinohai: they didn't even know it existed pre election
mircea_popescu: time to find out exactly how much fat the "incubator that produced a hundred billion in new companies" actually has on the bones.
mircea_popescu: but something tells me there's going to be left very little of andressen's "nice going team" after a coupla years' worth of headwind.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what was the official front page of the internet, voat something ?
shinohai: Yup, until Ryan X Charles destroys it all with `Yours`
shinohai: or whatever the fuck he calls it.