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mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: omfg i had forgotten that one. fresh round of lolz.
mircea_popescu: $rate alikim 1 Euloran
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/5254b1a7-a379-465a-bc65-f12b2bf3c972/
mircea_popescu: $v E487E049EC795726B2F69B2D7A300FB0D7CD3C8ECCD5862FECD89D672A7A2207
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated alikim 1 << Euloran
shinohai: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431060.0 <<< more RNG lolz
phf: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/02/meet-the-bughunters-the-hackers-in-india-protecting-your-facebook-profile is here to produce an angry twitch in alf
asciilifeform: waiwut
mod6: took a chance on that bare metal img. nb!
mod6: asciilifeform: are you lookin for a wfh job then or what's the deal there?
adlai: shinohai: the lolz are that people generate keys using computers out of their physical control... or even, using computers at all
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 420.17, vol: 1895.73758737 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 417.0, vol: 3405.82866 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 421.11, vol: 4364.84374939 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.99, vol: 0.1178381 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 422.182488, vol: 17785.12640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 420.93, vol: 1757.34604586 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 425.271796, vol: 5.68299697 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 421.212750332
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449920 << aha☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 02:27 mod6: asciilifeform: are you lookin for a wfh job then or what's the deal there?
phf: asciilifeform: it was funny in my head. something about who needs reversing skills, when you can do brute force fuzzing by indian and become a millionaire (in rupis)
adlai is listening to: Metallica - The Memory Remains (4:43)
adlai: (highly relevant lyrics)
deedbot-: [Qntra] 3D Printed Objects Are A New Frontier For Enterprising Pirates Thanks To Reverse Engineering From Audio - http://qntra.net/2016/04/3d-printed-objects-are-a-new-frontier-for-enterprising-pirates-thanks-to-reverse-engineering-from-audio/
adlai dies laughing
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 406726 | Current Difficulty: 1.668515132827772E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 407231 | Next Difficulty In: 505 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
adlai: at least satoshi is keeping the price appropriate
phf: now need to record the printing of http://www.amandaghassaei.com/projects/3D_printed_record/
BingoBoingo: phf: I'm pretty sure if someone attempts that an avatar of physics becomes incarnate, personally finds the person doing that and delivers a swift kick in the crotch.
adlai: BingoBoingo: how about that btc diff adjustment beat, is it still open?
adlai likes wfh yobs
phf: BingoBoingo: there's a su science finction novel, "a billion years before the end of the world", where an astrophysicist on a verge of discovery is plagued with random events that disrupt his work. so after some trials and tribulations he and his friends realize that universe exists in a sort of entropic equilibrium that creates an active counter balance to rational intervention
phf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitely_Maybe_(novel)
adlai queues that for the qntra sparknotes column
mod6: asciilifeform: ya, cool. i need one too - I miss wfh everyday. hard commuting every damn day.
adlai: mod6: protip: next time you're interviewing, mention that commutes are a dealbreaker.
mod6: i've got it figured out dude.
mod6: in oct the place i was at which was wfh pretty much 90% of the time went under. found a life-raft at the current place.
mod6: but, only 5% wfh basically.
mod6: anyway, yeah, need to find new wfh gig
asciilifeform: adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449944 <<>> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-09#1449417☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-09 16:14 asciilifeform ON A MOTHERFUKING SATURDAY yet ANOTHER phone interview with folks who ~lied~ in advertisement re telecommute
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 03:41 adlai: mod6: protip: next time you're interviewing, mention that commutes are a dealbreaker.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/04/3d-printed-objects-are-a-new-frontier-for-enterprising-pirates-thanks-to-reverse-engineering-from-audio/#comment-51827
punkman: a lot of it is from the fucking recruiters spamming everywhere with imagined job descriptions
punkman: /me looks for telecommuting jobs once in a while
asciilifeform: at this point i would do pretty much anything so long as it pays the bills and is 100% tele
asciilifeform: but this is so far not entirely different from 'need unicorn that is precisely 11 ft tall'
punkman: dunno, lower bills definitely make it easier
BingoBoingo: <adlai> BingoBoingo: how about that btc diff adjustment beat, is it still open? << yes, if you can submit them in a timely manner
gernika: asciilifeform: I have telecommuted since 2013 - mostly for friends doing work that tends to trigger teeth kicking behavior, however.
gernika: that said, I no longer have to put up with the absurdity of doing that same work in an open office.
gernika: or commuting to do it in such a hellspace
asciilifeform: what's an 'open office'
punkman: my longest 9-5 was 2 months. and it was actually 9-3. :P
gernika: no cubes even - just tables in medium sized rooms, sometimes staring cooworkers in the face the entire day.
asciilifeform: srsly this exists ?
punkman: yeah
asciilifeform: sounds like 19th c. sweatshop
mats: lol
asciilifeform never set foot in such a thing
gernika: this is to work in san francisco
asciilifeform: i've also never set foot in san francisco
asciilifeform: and not sure i want to
gernika: I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
asciilifeform: i turned down a bunch of work from that city
phf: what? san francisco is awesome, it's just it was ruined by the tech scene
asciilifeform: for a while my phone rang and rang with it
asciilifeform: but i dun need a flat in a motherfucking tower with no dishwasher for 5k/mo, for anything.
gernika: aha phf I meant I wouldn't recommend working in san francisco
phf: ah word
asciilifeform: see also orwell's proverbial 'During the boom years, when dollars were plentiful and the exchange-value of the franc was low, Paris was invaded by such a swarm of artists, writers, students, dilettanti, sight-seers, debauchees, and plain idlers as the world has probably never seen. In some quarters of the town the so-called artists must actually have outnumbered the working population — indeed, it has been reckoned that in the late
asciilifeform: twenties there were as many as 30,000 painters in Paris, most of them impostors. The populace had grown so hardened to artists that gruff-voiced lesbians in corduroy breeches and young men in Grecian or medieval costume could walk the streets without attracting a glance, and along the Seine banks Notre Dame it was almost impossible to pick one's way between the sketching-stools. It was the age of dark horses and neglected genii; the
asciilifeform: phrase on everybody's lips was 'Quand je serai lancé'. As it turned out, nobody was 'lancé', the slump descended like another Ice Age, the cosmopolitan mob of artists vanished, and the huge Montparnasse cafés which only ten years ago were filled till the small hours by hordes of shrieking poseurs have turned into darkened tombs in which there are not even any ghosts.'
asciilifeform: ^ re san fran.
gernika: I regularly meet people who *just* moved here and are working on a kickstarter.
asciilifeform: gernika: aha, precisely orwell's shrieking poseurs.
adlai: asciilifeform: as i just said (to my dad!), "every time i open my mouth, i add-a-lie to the world"
asciilifeform: l0l
adlai is a two-syllable name, and caused himself great suffering to utter that joke out loud
adlai: BingoBoingo: awesome. timeliness is not the problem, but rather... https://youtu.be/LqQlCOmXuHM?t=55s
adlai: gernika: that's just how autodesk was, but it was a pretty cool office. i'd probably kill a family member (no-nuke-o) to work there again.
adlai: too bad i'm such a liar!
adlai: $down adlai
adlai: fiiiinally damn robot does something right.
adlai: $down adlai
ben_vulpes: no kicks this time tho
ben_vulpes: but hey, enough like home that the memory should fade one day
adlai tries calculating how much tighter to wind the five remaining strings to compensate for the snapped e
adlai: or am i doing it rong
phf: there's nothing that makes an open office like that an inherently bad idea. i'm sure before it turned into a nasty cost saving fad, a group of people could assemble for a period of time and in such a space so as to successfully deliver. it just that the model now stands for shit jobs, because that's the only jobs easily accessible in failing economies. a shit job is not going to be made better by a wfh
ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
adlai: sounds like a microchip,of the square millipede persuasion
ben_vulpes: benefits: a) privacy. only the desk next to a given desk can really see what's on the screen. b) gotta be intentional about conversations, look around the monitors at each other.
ben_vulpes: can't afford individual cubes for everyone, 'tis the best design we came up with.
phf: there's a difference between "when we rich we get individual offices" and "we all scream together in a giant room, because we're happening right now"
adlai suddenly satoris republican humor as well! thx phf
adlai: bbl
ben_vulpes: no screaming in the office, generally save that for the hill
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: will no doubt show up later and "young fool that sounds like the most miserable thing", and yes. we are young fools.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449953 << word. nfi when bois figured "the way to carrie" is to "be a recruiter" instead of w/e the fuck those schmucks in friends/cheers/whatevers are. "designers" or "writers" or whatnot.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:00 punkman: a lot of it is from the fucking recruiters spamming everywhere with imagined job descriptions
mircea_popescu: very typical of the ambitious twerp to imagine moontrip by own breech pulling is JUST THIS ONE TWEAK AWAY
mircea_popescu: if only you pulled on your foreskin LIKE THIS particular way, the peach pit girlfriend would TOTALLY materialize.
mircea_popescu: it's the other schmucks not pulling on their own foreskin in the exactly right way that barred them from peach pit lovin', you see. nothing wrong with the principle of things.
mircea_popescu: nothing can ever be wrong with the principle of things. just... gotta do it the RIGHT WAY.
mircea_popescu: that right there is cargo cultism at its peach pit core.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449967 << because it is.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:18 asciilifeform: sounds like 19th c. sweatshop
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449984 << that's what http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ is for.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:26 gernika: I regularly meet people who *just* moved here and are working on a kickstarter.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449999 << there's something that does : the people involved aren't sexually intimate. yes, slavegirls enjoy working in "open kitchen", often hands in same pot. nevertheless, if you had tried to mix them with their mothers / insufferable siblings etc, watch the fireworks.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:47 phf: there's nothing that makes an open office like that an inherently bad idea. i'm sure before it turned into a nasty cost saving fad, a group of people could assemble for a period of time and in such a space so as to successfully deliver. it just that the model now stands for shit jobs, because that's the only jobs easily accessible in failing economies. a shit job is not going to be made better by a wfh
mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450000 << install a coupla poles, hire strippers to work in the middle and serve one free drink/hour ; you're made.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:48 ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
mircea_popescu: this is totally how i'd run a softwareho sweatshop if i were running one.
phf: aye, symbolics style https://www.facebook.com/509092289172342/photos/pb.509092289172342.-2207520000.1460355053./771729566241945/?type=3&theater
mircea_popescu: that may be the worst stripper act i ever saw and wtf is with the lesbo hair.
phf: 80s?
phf: i mean they just discovered bowie
mircea_popescu: that's not 80s hair. THIS is 80s hair https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQFQsFmmG_r0lj9dI4dq57VYfgAi-ZpSOVBt594F1URC1E7DteI
phf: that's a cool people hair, eastern europe, new york, batcave even
phf: i think soccer moms (and not too young strippers apparently) were going for that annie lennox look
ben_vulpes: https://www.facebook.com/Symbolics-Inc-509092289172342/ << treasure trove
mircea_popescu: not too young, not too tall, not too in shape, not too tits, not too experienced, wtf fucking strippers are these already. being old should at least mean you no longer behave like the coy imbecile.
mircea_popescu: ref : http://trilema.com/2015/fun-with-pairs-of-girls/
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ << spot the bug
mircea_popescu: o wow, woulda look at that. science utterly prevailed then, has it.
phf: it's hard for me to defend that picture, sort of like watching your parent's debauchery pictures, except hypothetical "parents" because my parents were actually cool. perhaps parent's friend's cousin from small town.
mircea_popescu: phf what's the moscow equivalent of bakersfield ?
phf: but on the bright side, the man would've been fired were it a circa 2016 picture
ben_vulpes: he looks a bit displeased
phf: podolsk? yaroslavl? just generally outside of MKAD
mircea_popescu: bakersfield is this specific thing, satellite city of the great city where the zombies live.
phf: yeah, i'm wondering if there even exists a ru equivalent concept
mircea_popescu: see, romania has caracal, "the town where the cart of idiots toppled over".
mircea_popescu: ie, "un' s-o imburdat caru' cu prosti"
mircea_popescu: (also locally famous for the locally-celebrated "7 wonders of Caracal", to wit : that it has a prison, on Freedom street ; one bread factory, on Famine street ; the only school is called "School #2" ; the fire department burned down ; the door of police preceinct was stolen ; they built around a high crane in such a way the crane couldn't be extracted anymore so was left on the grounds, a sort of monument to caracalean engine
mircea_popescu: ering ; the train station had a monstrous clock whose face had the time in both roman numerals (I to XII, except for IV which is for some reason marked as IIII) as well as arabic (13 to 24). etc.
ben_vulpes: omg
mircea_popescu: http://altfeldestiri.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ceas-caracal-282x300.jpg?42cd43 << clockface in question.
phf: ahah
mircea_popescu: http://www.oneblog.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/normal_caracal.jpg << other items of local flavour
ben_vulpes: wow
phf: yeah, in moscow we call it rest of country
mircea_popescu: lol
phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, i think i'ma go for jimki.
phf: jimki?
mircea_popescu: sounds like the great name of a russian bakersfield. could even be a character, Jim from Jimki
phf: oh oh like zhimki
mircea_popescu: phf Химки
mircea_popescu: where they invented the super-duper tough HOMO police force.
phf: yeah that's a good choice. that one is particularly painful one, because it has no qualities beyond "people sleep there and then commute for 4 hours everyday to work in moscow"
mircea_popescu: so has birdy whispered in my ear.
phf: yeah, uryupinsk made me all nostalgic, "mother russia" and all that. химки just looks depressing.
phf: http://www.khimki.info/upload/medialibrary/4c3/02_vidi.JPG vs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Intercession_Church_Uryupinsk.jpg
mircea_popescu: incidentally phf is there a log bundle for download somewhere ?
deedbot-: [Trilema] Files from the War on the Web. Today, Literotica. - http://trilema.com/2016/files-from-the-war-on-the-web-today-literotica/
BingoBoingo: Oh, davout is resolving BitBets nao?
davout: BingoBoingo: I is indeed.
mircea_popescu: o there he is. they take weekends off where you're from ?!
davout: :)
mircea_popescu: and in other news... http://49.media.tumblr.com/54cadd320beb6a3efa1b85b4e3bd721a/tumblr_nisw8hzBzU1stthtfo1_400.gif
shinohai: I see your balcony blowjob and raise you blindfold bj: https://i.imgur.com/fgU1xh1.webm
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450022 << much simpler than this. thought i suppose mircea_popescu is enjoying being deliberately thick.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:04 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
asciilifeform: what's better, eating 1 pound of shit, or 10 ?
asciilifeform: telecommute is simply LESS of the loathesome torture than the alternative.
asciilifeform: for instance, i do 3+ hrs of UNPAID idiocy every day, just sitting in the motherfucking car.
jurov: pray tell, what alternative you're thinking of here?
asciilifeform: jurov: original thread was 'telecommute is nice' -- mp: 'nah you all suck and what does it matter what you little white mice do or don't do'
jurov: oh so.
asciilifeform: aha.
jurov: btw, what about hiring some schmuck to drive you around for bitcoins?
asciilifeform: jurov: this exists, it is called the train
shinohai: Some paki uber fag
jurov: you can pay for train directly with coinz?
asciilifeform: i don't like being driven any more than driving
jurov: ...
asciilifeform: and how do coinz enter into this, in so far as i'm concerned those are a nonrenewable resource that i carefully hoard, i don't get paid in'em
jurov: so you don;t want to get rid of them anymore?
jurov: or i misunderstood?
asciilifeform: nah they could come in handy for something.
jurov: seems you have hoard/spend bit, too
asciilifeform: occasionally
asciilifeform: at any rate, i can't do anything useful while in a moving vehicle, tried many times over whole life
gernika: the telecommute *can* give one more time, as asciilifeform says - 60 hours a month. Health too - commutes are not good for you.
jurov: but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance?
gernika: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450022 << what makes a job *less* shitty?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:04 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, alienation makes untenable socialisation more bearable, which is why alienation is a DEFENSE MECHANISM! so yes, the shittier the job is, the more people want to "work from home". it never occurs to them that the problem isn't going to be solved by "finding the right tweak of the right knob", so they do what they do. as per above discussion of foreskin pullers.
gernika: jurov - absolutely. employment is a scam.
asciilifeform: 11:02 <+jurov> but then, why even have a job at all and not freelance? << because there is ~0 demand for what i do among folks who employ freelancers ?
asciilifeform: (or, alternatively, i'm not 1333333337 enough by a long shot to know where to find it)
jurov: asciilifeform: i was some time on freelancer.com picking nuggets that indians won't do (like adding mysql plugin in C, or fixing old perl ERP) and I wasn't earning much for few months, and then one of the people approached me with much bigger and $better$ project.
asciilifeform: jurov: what makes you think i can afford to 'not earn much for few months' ?
jurov: you aren't atm earning anything anyway, are you?
asciilifeform: jurov: why do you think this ?
jurov: you are unemployed?
asciilifeform: nope.
asciilifeform: how did you get this idea ?
asciilifeform: i am posting straight from $rupturefarms as before.
asciilifeform: in the heart of mordor.
jurov: i see, you're employed *and* searching
asciilifeform: the pentagon is a few km away.
asciilifeform: jurov: not mega-seekrit, iirc i explained it
gernika: Step 1: start as 1000 low paid jurovs.
asciilifeform: 10,000,001 !
jurov: looks like my reading comprehension went to shit :(
mircea_popescu: fixing old perl ERP << o brother.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the article i'm writing now is titled "the fagspital"
asciilifeform: l0l!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450056 >>> <<< http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821685☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 17:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sex anal cu tractoare, motocositoare si combine agricole >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mVOd8zY3D8 << 'in Flyshitte, in the Red Corpse Kolhoz... there lived Tractoresse!'
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:50 phf: although there are two particular towns that are considered something of that, Uryupinsk and Muhosransk. first one is a real town, but second one translates as "town of fly-shit"
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: da fuck you reading!
asciilifeform: well he mentioned мухосранск
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450009 << literally 5min ago i got yet ANOTHER call from one of these imbeciles☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 05:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449953 << word. nfi when bois figured "the way to carrie" is to "be a recruiter" instead of w/e the fuck those schmucks in friends/cheers/whatevers are. "designers" or "writers" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: srsly 3-5/day now
mircea_popescu: if only you were into slavebois.
asciilifeform: there is this strange presumption, apparently shared even by jurov, that somebody looking for work is necessarily unemployed or underemployed and 'will do anything'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am into not-interacting-with-imbeciles, of either sex, in any capacity whatsoever, if it can be at all helped.
mircea_popescu: why ?
asciilifeform: i literally don't need them for anything
asciilifeform: just as i don't need mosquitoes
asciilifeform: or tsetse fly
mircea_popescu: you know the story of the beanstalk that decided it will not interact with any evolutionary inferior aggregations of matter, but only the superior ?
mircea_popescu: it... died.
asciilifeform: hey i did not say i dun want them in my fuel filter
asciilifeform: i said ~interact~.
asciilifeform: they are welcome in my petrol tank
asciilifeform: after fermenting.
asciilifeform: but the fermentation ought to take place in specially-designated barrels, not in my kitchen sink plox.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how teh world worx.
asciilifeform: evidently.
asciilifeform: i grasp how mircea_popescu might enjoy hunting idiots for sport from safe height of dirigible, and he has plenty of leisure for this, like medieval lord - but the time budget ~i~ have for idiots, is 0.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450000 << l0lz! ~this~ is where ben_vulpes offered me to work for table scraps at !☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 04:48 ben_vulpes: at the risk of giving too much of the secret sauce away, first floor of the office surface-level looks like one of those "open plan" offices. except that desks are arranged around the perimeter, with monitors pointed out
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450020 << i can't help but wonder if mircea_popescu actually thinks the inside of his harem is relevant to other people. i find it interesting, yes, but it is rather like the inside of a particle accelerator - not particularly related to any situation i am likely to ever encounter imho.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 06:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1449999 << there's something that does : the people involved aren't sexually intimate. yes, slavegirls enjoy working in "open kitchen", often hands in same pot. nevertheless, if you had tried to mix them with their mothers / insufferable siblings etc, watch the fireworks.
asciilifeform: but if i ever must build particle accelerator, i will very much study mircea_popescu's notes!
mircea_popescu: apparently it IS related.
ben_vulpes: dun recall making an offer
mircea_popescu: the fact of the matter is that irrespective of how foreign, the gyneceum is in point of fact the matrix of a whole lotta things.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc you suggested it simply as a barb
asciilifeform: 'how'd ya like to bike-commute to my injun farm'
mircea_popescu: most disputes as to physical reality resolve through some form of argumentum ad acceleratorum ; it stands then to reason most disputes as to social interaction will resolve through some form of argumentum ad slut hotel.
mircea_popescu: he did not. i asked him if he'd take you, as a personal favour. because you were going all nutso.
asciilifeform promises that if he ever begs for spare change, he will do it under a d.c. bridge and not ever here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except the thing i 'all nutso' ~about~ was the very notion.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the concept that the more intelligent the subject, the larger share of his problems are of his own creation ?
asciilifeform: sure. brick has 0 problemz.
mircea_popescu: mo mortar, mo problemz.
asciilifeform: in not entirely unrelatez nyooz, i had a dream that they passed out korans at the office, and bearded blokes walked around to inquire, regularly, how much each schmuck has read and understood.
asciilifeform: the korans were of a very spiffy edition that does not exist on our planet, every 'key phrase' was annotated in 6 languages, but only one of them was arabic, the 5 others i did not recognize as earthling scripts at all.
asciilifeform: the interesting aspect is that this was a glorious and joyous thing, because...
mircea_popescu: chocolate rations
asciilifeform: it beat the shit out of the actual job i was doing previously !1111
asciilifeform: snow shovelling rations.
asciilifeform: (see old thread)
mircea_popescu: $up rithm
deedbot: rithm voiced for 30 minutes.
rithm: hello
mircea_popescu: hola
rithm: 30 minutes of voice, so little time so much to say and do
mircea_popescu: go ahead.
rithm: meh
asciilifeform got YET ANOTHER 'we would l0000ve to have you!1111' from usg
asciilifeform: does nobody read the logz.
asciilifeform: and what is the 'omniscient' spybot of google for, if not to avoid the schutzstaffel thusly wasting its time ?
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how teh world worx!
asciilifeform: possibly !
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Fagspital - http://trilema.com/2016/the-fagspital/
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/eUrrFRh.png <<< lol this ETH chart
mircea_popescu: and in today's further installment of weird, http://www.seductivejewess3.com/type-id31-genya-sarah-golub/ (scroll down)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450187 << l0lwaterfall☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 16:22 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/eUrrFRh.png <<< lol this ETH chart
asciilifeform: has anything outlived mircea_popescu's fatwa by longer than the eth thing ?
mircea_popescu: sure, many things.
mircea_popescu: gravity works the way it works ; entropy idem. it doesn't say you can't put things in orbit. it just says it won't be worth it.
shinohai: Peter Wuille, for example.
asciilifeform: who was it, who wrote 'market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent'
mircea_popescu: there's no market at work here.
asciilifeform: no, but there is a tremendous herd of captive cattle.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, "the herd" is apparently a trope in the genre of "post-apocalypse/zombie invasion" copywriting.
rithm: ethereum is still a thing?
mircea_popescu: ie, all the "infected" humans get together into this huge swarwming mass to be avoided.
mircea_popescu: makes no sense, of course, but then again genre fiction is genre fiction.
phf: seductivejewess3.com << gold
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what exactly is a 'balabusta' ?
phf: "I note from the IPS address template that certain parties – quite possibly of the Jewish persuasion – attempt from time to time to break into the site and destroy it."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one time, long ago, i pwned a sp4mz0r's box and it turned out that one of his pw's was 'balabusta'. i had the word in the back of my head ever since
asciilifeform: but still not entirely sure what it means.
asciilifeform: in other noose,
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/04/gchq-wizards-helped-prevent-harry-potter-book-from-leaking-online
asciilifeform: 'In a radio interview last week, Nigel Newton of Bloomsbury Publishing spoke about how the publisher had employed strong security measures to prevent possible leaks, including guard dogs and a constant security presence at the printing press. Seemingly, the company also had the support of GCHQ, the UK's primary signals intelligence and surveillance agency.'
jurov: does the fagspital exist anywhere? here they want only blood, drawn hastily on some unholy morning hour
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/chariot-for-women-an-uber-like-service-for-females-set-to-launch-this-month << from same rag, lulzy
phf: the story immediately goes into idiot mode, where they say GCHQ called up publisher over leaks, but "nobody knows what they would've done if that was a real leak". triangulated the internet of course
phf: every other uber driver tries to pitch me on "uber for X" when they learn im in it.
asciilifeform: phf: the 'idiot mode' thing is a clanging cymbal to distract reader from the brick-in-your-face-obvious fact that nsa et al openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work and are shedding the pretense of 'defense against foreign devils'
asciilifeform: the lack of any ~actual~ foreign devils worth the mention is no longer mega-seekrit
phf: why look for hidden messages, when there are open messages available
asciilifeform: that's the funny thing, it isn't hidden at all.
asciilifeform: i have seen these folks in the flesh
asciilifeform: and heard them prattle on
asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'.
asciilifeform: it means, approximately, the maintenance of status quo
asciilifeform: and, in particular, the prevention of mircea_popescus
asciilifeform: and in general, the prevention of honest commerce as a possible thing to exist.
asciilifeform: presently, the main preoccupation of the vermin is dissent and betrayal within own ranks.
phf: i don't know ~who~ you're explaining this to, but you're missing my point. nsa/gchq ideology is out in the open, so there's no need to read it into any random event. if a policeman beats up a nigger one day and saves a kitten from a tree another, there's really no reason to read "reinforcement of hegemony" into the second action, since there's the first one
asciilifeform: but what when he saves the nigger from the tree, and beats the kitten.
asciilifeform: and my point was that, at least formerly, the genuine ideology was ~not~ in the open.
asciilifeform: they had an elaborate pretense of 'terrorism!111' going
asciilifeform: which is beginning to dissolve
phf: it was always out in the open, they just gain new powers. each cycle brings a new pretense with a new set of powers
asciilifeform: prior to ~that~, they had half a century of pretense of 'defense against su'
asciilifeform: (which really meant, wrecking su, so alternatives to the reich could not come to exist)
phf: well, in that article their pretense is defense against the hackers, a "recognized international cyberthreat"
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: but until very recently, the fiction was maintained that 'hackerz are a law enforcement matter'
phf: i'm just failing to grok how that article warrants an "A-ha!" moment, when there's basically an endless stream of ineffectual aha-s for 90 some years (as far back as i read about this stuff)
asciilifeform: the 'aha moment' line is quite arbitrary.
phf: latest boind explained it for the rest of us, mi5 with their license to kill is out, gchq with their license to survey is in :p
phf: *bond
phf: for the good of the country and our fellow law abiding countrymen
asciilifeform: i'm not certain that anybody cancelled the 'license to kill'
asciilifeform: ask, e.g., michael hastings.
asciilifeform: or the nailgunned folks.
asciilifeform: or the 10,000,001 journawhorez who helped the above 'unexist'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a more or less convincing argument that the cleanups are ~expensive~ and so the kill is used ~sparingly~
asciilifeform: but nobody cancelled it.
asciilifeform: and yes, planting a hdd full of cp is cheaper than a sniper hit, and setting somebody up to quietly starve is cheaper still, etc.
asciilifeform: but rarely is ~any~ of it necessary, because the number of folks who ~merit~ any of this treatment hovers around ~0.
asciilifeform: i, for instance, have yet to even merit a traffic ticket
asciilifeform: much less car bomb.
asciilifeform: and if even mircea_popescu does not get car bomb, what hope do i have.
phf: perfect job for alf https://lispjobs.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/front-end-developer-clojurescript-vital-labs-san-francisco/
phf: "We are looking for a ~generalist~ developer with a ~front-end focus~ and strong ~interest~ in working with the Clojure ecosystem who can lead or contribute to all aspects of a modern technology stack."
asciilifeform: l0l phf
asciilifeform: why not cobol !
phf: this job posting is ridiculously bad, and i wouldn't know about it if these "vital labs" people didn't have such poor taste to post it to lispjobs
phf: but then someone approved it, which kind of makes me recognize the point you make about maggots
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: Apr 11 15:24:59 *gribble has quit (Disconnected by services) << l0lwut
mircea_popescu: i dunno, deedbot got a lot of that too
phf: a111 is just sitting there
mircea_popescu: trinque what was the key extracto command ?
trinque: it's $key nick
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if ((rand() % 666) == 1) disconnect_terrorist();
mircea_popescu: a ty
mircea_popescu: $key nobcob
mircea_popescu: $key NobCob
deedbot: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/e6f9a783-f096-4f7d-a5c6-c69af669d376/
mircea_popescu: ty deedbot
phf: gpgme in homebrew goes out of its way to build with gpg2 with that same mantra that tech wreckers use everywhere, it's deprecated. don't question it, morty, it's deprecated. the community deprecated it. yep.
asciilifeform: k0my00000000n1ty!1111
mircea_popescu: heh
asciilifeform: also gpgme sucked donkey ballz in every conceivable other way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a balabusta is a "proper jewish housewife" ; but in romanian just means old fat gypsy woman.
asciilifeform: ah!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this actually explains a great deal, ty.
mircea_popescu: and nice ploy pretending you don't know, jdif!
mircea_popescu: I AM ON TO YOU
asciilifeform: i ~suspected~ l0l
mircea_popescu: #trilema, buncha guys named benjamin and some dude from odessa wink wink nudge nudge
mircea_popescu: o i r wondert, wut is balabusta!
asciilifeform: in related nyooz, i go out of my zoo and think 'i will march in random direction', and lo and behold, a few km away, ru shop, sells sprats! etc
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder now, what % of folks around here are su exiles
mircea_popescu: jurov> does the fagspital exist anywhere? <<< on buyan!
phf: there's 3 stores that sell sprats, beluga caviar, kefir, etc. within max 20 minutes of walking from where i am
asciilifeform: incidentally they had a very mircea_popescutronic-looking chick at the counter.
asciilifeform: but WITH FACE
mircea_popescu: openly brag about their actual ('societal control') work <<< that nsa and all are desperate for funds because the toilets are overflowing and the cheap wallpaint flaking in their shitty "coffee" is neither surprising nor actually too convincing towards the proposed theory.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: theory concerns how the perpetrators see ~themselves~, rather than what ends up actually happening
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and, in particular, the prevention of mircea_popescus << heh. don't flatter self, mps aren't prevented by some sort of captain planet "by our powers combined".
asciilifeform: and 'desperate for funds' is not quite it - they have vastly more funds than staff (for n00bs to subj, usg spending is - in a perverse and difficult to understand formula - tied to organizational staffing..)
mircea_popescu: yeah, and then you go into a tizzy when i consider how fat women on etsy "see themselves".
mircea_popescu: you know this is vaguely homo! wtf do you care what some fat derps see themselves as.
mircea_popescu: at least womenz have tits, somewhere.
asciilifeform: l0l i suppose all warfare is 'vaguely homo'
asciilifeform: at least when it is not against the amazons.
mircea_popescu: i suppose!
mircea_popescu: phf> for the good of the country and our fellow law abiding countrymen << and unrelatedly and no doubt very insignificantly, ALSO for lack of any dudes that can be arsed to kill.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but nobody cancelled it. << orly.
asciilifeform: hastings cremated self ?
asciilifeform: the brit crypto schmuck sewed himself into bag? etc
mircea_popescu: they prolly got an ex to do it
mircea_popescu: only people who can summon the energy anymore.
asciilifeform: they get 'ex' to do ~anything at all~ !
asciilifeform: realize, proper 'civil servants' do ~0 in usgdom.
asciilifeform: virtually all of the spending is on 'contractor'
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: 'contractor' routinely gets 2-3x for ~same work~, even something as humble as software
mircea_popescu: this is so soviet, incidentally. utterly.
mircea_popescu: recall the joke with the young girl in school ?
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: with the ice cream.
mircea_popescu: "in the us the nsa has powers and bla bla bla. why are you crying, little boy" "I WANT TO GO TO THE USA!!11"
asciilifeform: i also recall the one with the buggery.
mircea_popescu: "where i live we have no moneys no gear and do nothing all day long and my apt has cockroaches"
mircea_popescu: phf who's morty.
asciilifeform: prolly the morty in 'rick and morty' ?
phf: cartoon character
mircea_popescu: oh
asciilifeform: incidentally a surprisingly mircea_popescutronic cartoon imho
mircea_popescu: in other fucking lulz : pms on literotica, for ~day and a half. 5 clicks on bitly link, of which two mine checking it works. ARTICLE on trilema discussing the matter and in very passing offering the [unlinked] url for the bitly link. 12 clicks after half a day.
mircea_popescu: then people wonder wtf i say trilema readership ~= 2x all of conde nast
mircea_popescu: o hey look at that, season two. I R ARLY EADOPTOR for once! ty #trilema!
mircea_popescu: and in other "you no come to disturb" news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/bffddb815a4fb5798504ebd69be1cd87/tumblr_nyim1w1FhS1tlxqgjo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i take it no one again wrote in re the block cipher thing ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that the enemy did not see it fit to try to sell us a clever dud
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AvC4-qcGIU
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: in entirely unrelated findz,
asciilifeform: http://marte.unican.es/index.htm
asciilifeform: ^ ben_vulpes, mod6, et al ^ possibly interesting example of various things
ben_vulpes: huh neet
asciilifeform has not tested! or - for the most part - even read! for study only.
asciilifeform: the thing claims to support sound blaster 16, even.
asciilifeform: but many of the drivers appear to be in c
asciilifeform: and a number of other key components of the kernel, such as memory allocator, are also in c
asciilifeform: so this is a strange bulldog-rhinoceros chimera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. it's public anyway, i wouldn't really do anything but point to the thread in private.
mircea_popescu: in other win, http://trilema.com/2013/annas-adventure/#comment-116994
ben_vulpes: SEX
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i only asked because a few of the discussed items in the past were from your mailpile iirc.
mircea_popescu: yeh.