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ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-09 09:40:42 mp_en_viaje: what value does it generate ? is it a good deal for nsa, to trade half a bitcoin for a coupla used dc machines, even leaving aside how these eminently constitute what asciilifeform knows to be called "surplus", through the process he oft described in logs of buying stuff for pennies ?
mp_en_viaje: what value does it generate ? is it a good deal for nsa, to trade half a bitcoin for a coupla used dc machines, even leaving aside how these eminently constitute what asciilifeform knows to be called "surplus", through the process he oft described in logs of buying stuff for pennies ?
mircea_popescu: ima pay s.nsa a coupla bitcoin for your trouble, and donate the result to the republic, in lieu of donating moar money to the dead end foundation.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/five-years-later-omidyars-snowden-trickle-catching-up-to-trilema-report-on-nsa-in-bitcoin/ << Qntra - Five Years Later Omidyar's Snowden Trickle Catching Up To Trilema Report On NSA In Bitcoin
asciilifeform: !~later tell kanzure http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704482 << realize, NOT ONE of these imbeciles, nor the idiocies they uttered, has a single thing to do with ACTUAL bitcoin. not the 'core dev' nsa tools, not the dan boneh ( http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/dan-boneh ) nsa stooge; not the chinese derps. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for instance : usg released a convicted felon / ndrngheta man (sony vleisides) for the purpose of pulling a "we build asic miners" scam in bitcoin to buy nsa enough time to make some themselves.
asciilifeform: it is a little bit like saying 'if nsa finds algo that breaks 70% of ecdsa keyspace, the remainder is still ok and 30% of bitcoin addrs will remain safe, bitcoin lives on'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: To be fair about lack of Bitcoin, this is CIA rapidly reinventing own "NSA"
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : jonathan pollard, a guy who stole and sold (to israle, and to others) all sorts of holies of the usg (including the nsa's utterly ridiculous 5k page manual on "how to conduct signals intelligence" - no part of which is actually useful in practice much like satoshi's bitcoin miner code is not used by any actual bitcoin miners) was released in 2015 (with much gnashing of teeth, because back whgen he was conv
asciilifeform: this is really in re the old 'bitcoin at the nsa' thread but i've misplaced the date.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1501981 << the power of shitcoins : much like bitcoin makes everyone a bitcoiner, be they usg.nsa or whatever else, just so scamcoin makes everyone a scammer. they may start as "white hat" or "robin hood" or whatever, but in the end the dark nature of the item compels them. ☝︎
thestringpuller: Instead of the Bitcoin computer. S.NSA can make the TMSR Computer.
mircea_popescu: no, looky. if the case is that the knowledge vessel was a jwz, which is to say all juice no politics, then the truthful rendition of the situation is, that the knowledge in question was removed from its unstable situation, to a more sensible one. otherwise, if the vessel in question is a balanced construction, the attempts to "remove" run into the age old "nsa can't hold bitcoin and stay nsa" issue as discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2016#1437833 << i just read that and lolled. seriously, piece pretending nsa-gavin is somehow involved in or related to bitcoin ? leading with a quote from karpeles ? is this yves eudes hardcore trolling the collection of wanna-be derps that read le monde or what ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i must confess that if mircea_popescu was conducting an experiment to demonstrate the brokkenness of bitcoin, under the banner of s.nsa, he would have put it as expense in s.nsa statement.
danielpbarron: maybe the 17 btc should be donated to bbet by s.nsa? If indeed the whole point was to make a point about the brokenness of bitcoin.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422950 << so am i thick, or what did nsa even want if not for mircea_popescu to go long on fiat? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2016#1418866 << so nsa/mit are trying to push an alt. good for them. they'll fail. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2016#1415319 << lulzy how the nsa turd in arm cpu catches on with the derps, but wintel 'tpm' didn't ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413765 << ahahahahaha nsa wants to aes-ify the curves. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2016#1408095 << what is this crud - x86, and i7 no less, the one with the hidden nsa core, wtf, if i wanted this, could walk into any shop on the planet and buy. ☝︎
mats: fwiw, most of my free time is consumed by work towards being useful for the most recent s.nsa proposal re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348500 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-02-2016#1393026 << at least it wasn;t fucking developed by teh nsa. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367965 << this is actually a mega-l0l - a virtually 100% gossipd WITH 100% NSA CRYPTO ☝︎
BingoBoingo: trilema can get away with one because trilema is indexed so well by google for nsa purposes. finding clever things pete_dushenski wrote when I was recapping 2015 in Bitcoin was very different. Very painful.
assbot: Logged on 13-12-2015 13:20:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342279 << and yet "nsa spies everything"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342324 << we already know that nsa doesn't spy, in the usual sense. usg prefers sabotage. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-12-2015#1342279 << and yet "nsa spies everything" ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319817 << the dump where i went to school is, or at least was at the time, thought to be ~the~ 'nsa uni' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312583 << the point is not that they exist. the point is that nsa decided cca 1990 that IN THE FUTURE tm/r it WANTS them to exist. ☝︎
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291258 << i thought 'largest parking lot' was at ft meade (nsa central) ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288939 << well, if 'b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency', are you proposing that therealbitcoin, bitbet, mpex, s.nsa, qntra, paymium, etc. are looking to hire pr talent ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:36:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up.
mircea_popescu: see ascii_field ye olde "bitcoin perverts nsa" thing ? cuts both ways. finding oneself in the sort of situation the usg finds itself ALSO perverts.
mircea_popescu: anyway, incorporated here by reference, the discussion where i showed you how holding bitcoin destroys nsa.
asciilifeform: the bug-for-bug compatibility thing ensures that nsa will follow bitcoin (yes, therealbitcoin) around, like an inoperable cancer
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256545 << "ddos protection" being used so liberally to mask specifically nsa-ian idiocy strengthens my suspicion that "ddos" does not merely exist, but is in fact a coopted technologee. which is why fucking automattic ACTUASLLY PUTS IT IN DELIBERATELY. ☝︎
assbot: Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
assbot: Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
assbot: Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH )
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone recall where the fuck i put that screenshot of gavin casually admitting that satoshi never spoke to him after he ran off and "presented" bitcoin @nsa hq ?
assbot: Logged on 14-08-2015 00:36:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237196 << this is completely imaginary. the nsa can't hire enough talent to keep its own systems running safely. printing money does not help in any sense, if they got a 10x budget approved they't just pay the same people within maybe 5% ~8-9x more. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-08-2015#1237165 << i have no problem with s.nsa offering a catalog of 0days for sale in bitcoin. write it up. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2015#1235668 << mega-lulzy how microshit drags it onwards for ~years~ on more-or-less undeniable orders from of nsa ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229596 << i've been making something quite like this. (see last bullet in aug.'15 s.nsa broadcast for summary) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-07-2015#1211175 << s.nsa flagship node. mine. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 00:05:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184828 << speaking of which : a) you folk are gonna publish ips once the sync's done yes ? and b) bringing a seed up on nsa hardware this month maybe ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184828 << speaking of which : a) you folk are gonna publish ips once the sync's done yes ? and b) bringing a seed up on nsa hardware this month maybe ? ☝︎☟︎
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182410 << incidentally, anyone remember the 'accidental' oceanic fiber cuts every few years, when nsa installs splitter taps ?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 13:35:11; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1158998 << mircea_popescu is posting through a temporal modem from 1870s ? because 'spoils system' in usg civil service is long, long gone. nobody at nsa, usually not even the director (they don't stick around long anyway) worries about which party is in the white house.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1158998 << mircea_popescu is posting through a temporal modem from 1870s ? because 'spoils system' in usg civil service is long, long gone. nobody at nsa, usually not even the director (they don't stick around long anyway) worries about which party is in the white house. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1158799 << no, no, the OTHER nsa. ☝︎
mike_c: the nsa invented bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i think that argument holds water, to a large degree. recall the "bitcoin pervers the nsa" discussion with alf maybe a year ago ?
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for asciilifeform from 2 to 3 with note: Met IRL, S.NSA, outstanding work for The Bitcoin Foundation, created portatronic project and runs loper-os.org
mod6: !rate asciilifeform 3 Met IRL, S.NSA, outstanding work for The Bitcoin Foundation, created portatronic project and runs loper-os.org
assbot: Logged on 14-04-2015 02:00:37; asciilifeform: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099925 << do i need to explain what the resurrection of 'key escrow' idiocy from '90s (clinton's! to go right along with the new clinton!) means from the meta-nsa school of thought? or is it already obvious to aficionados
asciilifeform: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2015#1099925 << do i need to explain what the resurrection of 'key escrow' idiocy from '90s (clinton's! to go right along with the new clinton!) means from the meta-nsa school of thought? or is it already obvious to aficionados ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-04-2015#1083737 < nsa.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2015#1043648 << thread where mircea_popescu illuminates the war between cia and nsa ☝︎
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-03-2015#1052459 << ik: for them = gaming. also http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/[sf]-{nsa,mg,qntr,mpif}/ all http 500 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally. << you're on the public record owning a majority of s.nsa lol.
PeterL: asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally. << what? I thought you were co-founder of S.NSA, you don't own any of it?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform atm im trying to discern whether the recent "secp256k1" talk is simply the defeated nsa trying to find a better reason to fork bitcoin, or these derps actualy have something.
kakobrekla: nsa check, bitcoin foundation check, ... whats next, usg?
assbot: Logged on 09-04-2014 09:10:25; mircea_popescu: tbh im kinda surprised teh tradepress isn't howling all about "in january, 'Bitcoin Baron Keeps a Secretive Open Source OS Alive' ; in april, nsa's crown jool is thrown in the dirt of the public space."
assbot: 30 results for 'meta-nsa' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=meta-nsa
assbot: 27 results for 'nsa bitcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nsa+bitcoin
asciilifeform: !s nsa bitcoin
assbot: 28 results for 'meta-nsa' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=meta-nsa
assbot: Bitcoin 'Conspiracy Theory' Alleges Virtual Currency is NSA or CIA Project
xmj: godovo: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439
mircea_popescu: chetty: <assbot> Bitcoin Suspected to Be NSA or CIA Project// just from the title thats silly, they dont get along <<< congratulations, you've just run into the "cover your bases" online phenomenon. it goes like this : twerp with nothing to say has to spin out 5k words to get his half cent a word to pay for his ramen. and twerp has taken logic 101 (or else, mysql inject 101) and thus knows what OR does!
chetty: <assbot> Bitcoin Suspected to Be NSA or CIA Project// just from the title thats silly, they dont get along
assbot: Bitcoin Suspected to Be NSA or CIA Project
chetty: <xmj> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439
assbot: Bitcoin Suspected to Be NSA or CIA Project
xmj: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bitcoin-suspected-be-nsa-cia-project-1460439
hdbuck: benkay : well, some argue that the more the blochain size increase, the less people would actually download it to use bitcoins. other also argue that it would give more power to supernodes, centralising bitcoin, which was something that bitcoin was suppose to oppose. or is it just the NSA and co that will run Bitcoin once it get too big? ^^
davout: "I'm running for the Texas State Legislature. I support LGBT rights, pot, and net-neutrality and oppose the NSA and TSA. I also happen to be a long-time Bitcoin enthusiast. I'd love your support."
minersdidit: Deliberately and quite maliciously tried to meld the BleedingHeart openssl vulnerability into the Bitcoin code. The move seemed bizarre at the timei, seeing how there was exactly zero need and pretty much epsilon benefit of implementing such kludge, and given that everyone with a clue involved pretty much agreed PKI is broken beyond repair anyway. To properly understand the implications of this : NSA has had, for two years
mircea_popescu: tbh im kinda surprised teh tradepress isn't howling all about "in january, 'Bitcoin Baron Keeps a Secretive Open Source OS Alive' ; in april, nsa's crown jool is thrown in the dirt of the public space." ☟︎
nubbins`: twist: nsa foresaw digital currency and created bitcoin codebase so that a flawed implementation would ruin people on the idea
mircea_popescu: "There was also a pretty dogged pitch for his startup, which will get all kinds of warm huzzahs from the intersection of MRAs, Bitcoin fans, NSA critics and Redditors. I was pretty amazed that he went for it. He flat out said that he wants his startup to be funded and wasn't sure if it'd be possible after all of his, and I replied that it realistically wasn't going to happen without the say-so of someone like me, and I
mircea_popescu: bitcoin, even should it have made by nsa, has actually taken it over.
zacm: are we all ready for the morph into govcoin? https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u89qv/why_the_nsa_revelations_make_me_worried_about_the/
ozbot: Forget Bitcoin, Bernanke, & Musk; The Real Bubble Is At The NSA | Zero Hedge
pankkake: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-19/forget-bitcoin-bernanke-musk-real-bubble-nsa
mircea_popescu: well, nsa can in principle be bought out, like any bitcoin company.
the20year: If the NSA is truly all encompassing, then they have every single IP and mac address that a bitcoin could flow through, and a nearly infinite amount of laundering won't fix that
jurov: if nsa repurposed the DC to bitcoin mining, no wonder
mircea_popescu: donate to the nsa-tor-bitcoin foundation ?
ozbot: What Do the Latest NSA Leaks Mean for Bitcoin? | Motherboard
dub: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/what-do-the-latest-nsa-leaks-mean-for-bitcoin
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot. <<< ehehe.
asciilifeform: jurov: that's when the "Bitcoin as NSA honeypot" hypothesis will be tested until red-hot.
asciilifeform: Diablo-D3: Satoshi's use of gnarly C++ is one of the best pieces of evidence for the "Bitcoin is an NSA black project" crackpot hypothesis.