assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103000 @ 0.00032215 = 33.1815 BTC [-]
trinque: how the fuck is anything to do with drugs "life in prison"
trinque: asciilifeform: rather, the successful bitcoin business?
cazalla: trinque, i changed it to could face, my bad
cazalla: i'm sure they'll want to make an example though
trinque: killers routinely get what, 15-20?
trinque: we must be 10 years off from televising torture for public entertainment, if that
trinque: maybe it's a calculated targeting of such and so, but I think the mindless bloodlust of american culture also plays a part
trinque: *especially* when the target is involved in some kind of techno-nerd shit. take him down! he thinks he's better than us!
trinque: asciilifeform: heh, always makes me laugh to consider what the mouth is resting on
trinque: arse too if I recall octopus anatomy
cazalla: once he's locked up, perhaps i'll write him a letter asking why he didn't fight extradition
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71910 @ 0.00033024 = 23.7476 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: if i had to guess, he was likely told they'd take it easy on him and public defender told him to go with it
trinque: asciilifeform: lol @ anubis' missile-cock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16990 @ 0.00033073 = 5.6191 BTC [+]
cazalla: of course, but he was arrested december 2013, waived rights march 2014 and shipped off in november 2014, didn't take long
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76900 @ 0.00032296 = 24.8356 BTC [-]
trinque: cazalla: could just be one of those self-defeating types that gets into such things due to psychological issues
trinque: then one day the govt shows up at his door and he pisses himself
cazalla: even the aussie guy from drink or die fought off his extradition for 4-5 years
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> it's about 'imperio in imperium' << quite.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92200 @ 0.00033222 = 30.6307 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 06:37:11; asciilifeform: was j. smith's version, iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91700 @ 0.00033054 = 30.3105 BTC [-]
PeterL: sure, I guess that works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35900 @ 0.00033342 = 11.9698 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58788 @ 0.00033452 = 19.6658 BTC [+]
mike_c: they aren't pretending to be bigshots, it's just a bunch of TA's derping around
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77500 @ 0.00033823 = 26.2128 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: surprised they're using it tbh, mumble is far more popular in recent years
decimation: asciilifeform: for online gamers voice chat is popular for obvious reasons
cazalla: asciilifeform, even if Ts wasn't proprietary, it'd be pointless to download as you can't just connect and chat with them
cazalla: which is what i was gonna do last night ya know, bit of a chit chat, bit of a yarn but nope, gotta wait in some other room to be screened
decimation: lol they have some kind of moderator in the 'screen room'?
cazalla: didn't hang around to find out
cazalla: on one hand i get it, ya don't want random drunks coming in carrying on while you're having a conversation, but they are easily muted
decimation: asciilifeform: supposedly panasonic has a good reputation in the passives market
decimation: the japanese are famous for highly specialized component manufacturing
decimation: yeah, and companies like murata that have a corner on ceramic filters, etc
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> i mean, wtf ?! << it's widely used by gamers.
mircea_popescu: decimation actually traders use a very similar thing to replace phones
mircea_popescu: re: electronic bits. funny what's left once a major empire collapses. japan used to own the electronics trade. and they still do, except... it's mostly moved away from the stuff they make.
decimation: yeah much japanese manufacturing has moved to china
decimation: 'imaginary mars was totally easy to colonize'
decimation: apparently mars is 1% perchlorate which fucks with your thyroid
decimation: your jug of bleach is sodium perchlorate, this is calcium perchlorate, but the idea is similar - concentrated bleach
mircea_popescu: so apparently there's exactly one producer of niobium oxide capacitors, and you can't put an order in.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : it'd seem on cursory inspiection that the components market is actually not very healthy.
mircea_popescu: "Perchlorate is not a common word in the English language; all of us had to go and look it up," << pls resign now.
mircea_popescu: " said Peter Smith, the Phoenix principal investigator at the University of Arizona in Tucson.
decimation: correction: your jug of bleach has sodium hypochlorite, not sodium perchlorite
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95350 @ 0.00033847 = 32.2731 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: no, but it will probably get everywhere in your 'mars habitat'
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2014 05:33:36; mircea_popescu: now grant one more thing : there's going to be no space until long after the ocean floor is alma mater.
mircea_popescu: people have trouble making rent down on earth, what mars.
bagehot: Thanks for the !up, mircea_popescu
decimation: bagehot: here to tell us of the bank of england?
bagehot: decimation: What is there to say about the BoE? I'm here to learn checkout scarcity-through-obscurity currencies.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00033054 = 5.1068 BTC [-]
bagehot: the keys used to keep bitcoins a store of value are.
bagehot: at least from what I understand of the technical implementation.
bagehot: On a related note, can anyone suggest a site collecting major papers on the technical and analytical details of bitcoins?
decimation: bagehot: if you wanna know how bitcoin works, unfortunately the only comprehensive reference is the code itself
bagehot: fair enough, i'll check it out
assbot: The Heretic's Guide to Global Finance: Hacking the Future of Money: Peer-to-Peer Review: The State of Academic Bitcoin Research 2014 ... (
http://bit.ly/1G15duW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201250 @ 0.00034092 = 68.6102 BTC [+] {4}
bagehot: Cool, yeah, that'll save me a day of googling, thanks
bagehot: Where I can go to get the gory details on how the interesting parts of the bitcoin source code are implemented and why those interesting bits actually work cryptographically and in a game-theory sense. I think its pretty incredible that a bunch of people can credibly store tokens of considerable value on a decentralized, digital network.
bagehot: Eh, the delay was to make sure I communicated accurately what I am here to learn.
mircea_popescu: actually, this is exactly backards from reality. bitcoin is an utter mess, it works mostly by accident, most of the bits are horribly broken and dysfunctional.
mircea_popescu: but, the discussion is in the logs, you can traverse it by searching. prolly a good start as any :
bagehot: Well all the better then. In the longer run I want to try inventing some units of account with different transactional properties and expansionary mechanisms.
bagehot: Heh, nah, I've got no interest in patching bitcoin for the sake of itself beyond tinkering with the code to learn about.
bagehot: I think it'd be more fun to see what people do, if anything, with units of account that aren't like digital gold.
decimation: bagehot: what does it mean to 'not be like digital gold'?
bagehot: Well, so to give a concrete example, but not to make a normative statement about the relative merits for some purpose of one kind of unit of account over another, I think it'd be fun to try switching the party that initiates the asset-liability relationship.
bagehot: I also think it'd be fun to try to build a decentralized currency with a built-in mechanism for lender-of-last-resort purposes
decimation: bagehot: do you think the supply of money must expand as an economy 'grows'?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55750 @ 0.00032755 = 18.2609 BTC [-] {2}
bagehot: It depends on what is enforced by the people who decide what money and the economy are.
bagehot: And also how those people define the terms.
bagehot: That's my first pass at an answer. That's not a question I've thought about before.
mircea_popescu: one interesting idea that came out here is that the people do not decide what either money or the economy are.
mircea_popescu: but vice-versa : money and the economy decide what people are.
bagehot: Thanks! First, re: one interesting idea: Can you clarify 'decide'? One sort of sociological argument I've heard is that social systems cause specific behaviors to be present in people.
bagehot: Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors
bagehot: Its definately the case that some social systems cause behaviors in practically all people, although I suspect once in a while people manage to commander the board for a bit.
mircea_popescu: just like gravity causes fishes to swim and birds to fly, just so money and the economy cause black people to be poor and jews to have long noses
bagehot: I suspect so, although, it'd depend on the natural constraint thats being put forth
bagehot: Alright, I'll be back in a bit once I've got wot setup.
Birdman: Hello -assets. I am looking to dump my dollars for coins and have almost no trust ratings in the WoT. Willing to use an escrow or however it can be the least risky for both parties if anyone is interested
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103013 @ 0.00032424 = 33.4009 BTC [-] {2}
Birdman: It'd have to be a cash in the mail thing most likely
Birdman: Unless there is another way to get someone my dollars
mircea_popescu: i don't think many people do that, on account of how unreliable it is.
mircea_popescu: if you can use a bank, talk to sturles, he's been doing the offices of noob introducer since 2010.
mircea_popescu: if you can't use a bank, join a local community and do face to face.
Birdman: Right, but the risk is on my end really if I send the money. Also, I am trying to do a larger volume where my irl contact is uncomfortable doing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320250 @ 0.00031795 = 101.8235 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118150 @ 0.0003224 = 38.0916 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155800 @ 0.0003224 = 50.2299 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40690 @ 0.0003224 = 13.1185 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: there's no relation between assbot and gribble really.
bagehot: But, how do I prevent getting muted by assbot? I figured I registered a public key with gribble to register with the wot and then it was a matter of ;;eauth and messaging !up to assbot
decimation: bagehot: no need for ;;eauth to gribble, !up to assbot is sufficient
bagehot: Er, when I send !up to assbot I get 'assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.' back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128259 @ 0.0003432 = 44.0185 BTC [+] {2}
bagehot: How do I fix that? I'm mistaken but thats where I thought (but no longer do) gribble fit in.
assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81491 @ 0.00034611 = 28.2049 BTC [+] {3}
bagehot: Sorry, this is probably all RTFM issues, but is it !register <long pgp id>
assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.
bagehot: For the <full_gpg_keyid> I'm using the fifth column I get from the command gpg --list-keys --with-colon, 60E5BD872B2A6031. I'm getting back 'assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.'
decimation: bagehot: did you upload it to a keyserver?
decimation: you might want to actually have a valid email too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124000 @ 0.00033537 = 41.5859 BTC [-] {2}
bagehot: Where is the 40 character output?
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.bagehot.1:db856e96a87cbb812489644043c3577315f61997069f2c79c3c0d4cd29f66b59
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for bagehot with note: New blood
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bagehot now you can self-voice, pm assbot !up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75250 @ 0.00034861 = 26.2329 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123751 @ 0.0003403 = 42.1125 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54550 @ 0.0003341 = 18.2252 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 217869 @ 0.00034853 = 75.9339 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.0003565 = 13.8857 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> what's wrong is the idea that dependents can push one around in one's own castle. << myup.
ben_vulpes: but on the other hand "you're a parent now - you must sacrifice your whole life for the new life"
ben_vulpes: that set of assertions has me in knots.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> said.... everyone ever ? << nah. babes in haus is totally the way to go.
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 12:53:40; cazalla: and i am stuck using fucking electrum since then because for some reason, since bitcoin-qt 0.10.0 came out, my old 0.8.3, 0.8.6 throws errors and i can't fully sync and even lame attempt to try 0.10.0 falls flat.. i think maybe memory is fucked though unrelated, memtest86 throws a bunch of errors
ben_vulpes: your 0.8.6 all of a sudden refuses to sync further?
ben_vulpes: new 0.8.6 chains blow up during initial sync?
ben_vulpes: wouldn't it be handy to have a thing that could watch the output of n different 'bitcoin's running in real time?
ben_vulpes: saifedean: it's the Alps on the Riviera << oh god that sounds amazong
ben_vulpes: i'm well aware that this is how Things Are Done™
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know the "first shave, then shoot" one ?
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2015 13:15:53; gabriel_laddel: the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is totally A OK.
ben_vulpes: umpteen fucking centuries of having the bottom 90% snipped off of your ethnic group is much more pertinent
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'international cattle demarcation line' does not refer to israel?
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying
ben_vulpes: state is von neumann peeking through the curtain
ben_vulpes: his baleful glare burning into your soul
cazalla: ya, i know, but i was using 0.8.3 and i have at times in the past thought fuck it, i'll just download the blockchain after a format
ben_vulpes: attempt to mutate the state and you tempt him
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no dude, iut's not a real thing. the idea was that somehow there's a cutoff : up to moment t, imigrants are a ok. at t+1 they're now cattle. well, how do you choose t ?
ben_vulpes: the glib retort is "we're not immigrants, we're jooz!"
cazalla: but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors
ben_vulpes: like gypsies, but according to the people in question, 'smarter'
ben_vulpes: if i might be so bold i bear an excellent subset of excellent american genes
cazalla: anyway, i have a pogo otw, we'll see what comes of that next week
ben_vulpes: and gypsies (so family legend goes) who assimilated into the local joomunity.
ben_vulpes: who knows what got snipped and sewn in place during recombination.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80800 @ 0.00035969 = 29.063 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: <trinque> heh we're fucking children << trinque confirmed for gulagdestiny
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25440 @ 0.00035921 = 9.1383 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> presently the only package of -source- i've succeeded in building into a kernel that can be used on pogo - was netbsd. << it's over. eat a strategic banana, let them have the abandoned fortresses, move to the hills and build batteries of cheapish ground and air control devices to hold no mans land, lick wounds, regroup.
ben_vulpes: dispense with dream of 'compute'. c'est la guerre.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00035865 = 31.884 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: decimation, mircea_popescu: ksr, "We could be intruding on alien life." << isn't colonialism about coopting local structure if not eradicating them entirely?
mircea_popescu: colonialism is about coopting the locals on its own terms only.
mircea_popescu: that's the point of colonialism : much like b-a, you may only join it nude.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 9477 @ 0.00021105 = 2.0001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's the important thing about colonialism : it is a plain statement of the fundamental worthlessness of the locals. what it says is that their culture is not worth reading.
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't particularly share the worries of most intellectuals abnout the various books burned during history.
mircea_popescu: if the people that wrote them weren't idiots, the books wouldn't have been burned.
mircea_popescu: im sure if someone burned down reddit loads of future intellectuals will be all "o noes, the treasures lost". because they don't exactly know.
mircea_popescu: and so for them erring that way is sensible. but in actual fact... good god, the world is better off.
ben_vulpes: <bagehot> [02:58] the keys used to keep bitcoins a store of value are. << wat
assbot: El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha si conul Andrei Pippidi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1xmjRIc )
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bagehot lmk if you want a hand with setting up networks off of the mainchain
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bagehot "normative statement" << actually now i'm not so sure i want to be around you at all even
ben_vulpes: <bagehot> [04:12] Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors << it's called thermodynamics
ben_vulpes: new noobs, gorgeous weather, summer runup must be impending.
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ben_vulpes: who's the fractional reserve this time?
mircea_popescu: well considering all the bezzle poured in, it should be d.cbse
ben_vulpes: gemini being the replacement-in-the-wings
ben_vulpes: <cazalla> ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying << dude i need more than this
ben_vulpes: like ~/.bitcoin/debug.log files from block where it wedges
ben_vulpes: and then THEN you need to point the thing at a known-good node and see if you get the same results.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, i really only got off windows like.. 7-8 months ago
ben_vulpes: well you have places to hunt now don't you? and a foundation to whom to report shitgnomery in the wild?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91228 @ 0.00035522 = 32.406 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: anyways cazalla your mission should you choose to accept it is to run down some useful debug information from a 0.8.6 that refuses to sync. i suggest booting your bitcoind with the -debug flag.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102950 @ 0.00035483 = 36.5297 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: i think this was from 0.8.6 or maybe 0.8.3 install, can't remember
ben_vulpes: as a side note, it's lovely to see pastebin die the good death.
mircea_popescu: i mean it's traditionally a device to humiliate the girls, but the degree!
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya know what i'm yet to figure out about such pics, under what circumstances do people get naked like this at a wedding?
ben_vulpes: ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 234015 << so your remote node is misbehaving
ben_vulpes: although hard to tell if its getting blocks it already has or just 'heights' it already has
ben_vulpes: ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 233764 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
ben_vulpes: << considering running 'getblockhash 233764' and seeing if it returns the same hash
ben_vulpes: although is that the hash of the existing block or the incoming block and are they even the same?
mircea_popescu: 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
ben_vulpes is not opening up cpp tonight, will run from flawed meatram
ben_vulpes: cazalla: please run 'getblockhash 233764' and report
ben_vulpes: if you have 0.8.6 available for inquiry.
ben_vulpes: and to tag this with the 'block download' thread: nodes that misbehave like this must be booted from the dl candidate list.
mircea_popescu: dude, we went over this. the list is strictly made out of wot nodes. nothing else.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, can't at this time, chain and client i have half done here atm is 0.10.0 from when i got frustrated and decided to see if this work, it didn't get to that blockheight
ben_vulpes: not the hardcoded list, but the list of candidates constructed at/during runtime from which a node may consider downloading blocks.
cazalla: i actually have older chain here on external hdd so im copying that over, it isn't a full one either though, i believe it is from other day when trying 0.8.6 so will try soon
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ideally it'd have a performance based model, where it sorts the connections according to a "value", periodically kicking the bottom one and taking a new one in
mircea_popescu: just assign costs to cpu/bw usage, and price to information obtained, and there you go
cazalla: anyway, point i was trying to make last night was drunk, bad decision or not, i have done this many times over past year and it would always get a full chain after a day, but can't since 0.10.0 came out
ben_vulpes: well codified, thank you mircea_popescu.
cazalla: not that i was trying to use 0.10.0, that was just a last resort past few days
ben_vulpes: cazalla: this needs proving and reproduction.
ben_vulpes: 00000000000001909813d3f692378c41ffa9c21e444ebac220a33137d94948c5 << point at which pasted log kicks into "orphan frenzy"
cazalla: what's AddToWallet, should i snip that from log before putting on dpaste?
ben_vulpes: twould be real funny if there were privkeys in that log statement.
ben_vulpes: and you're certain you know the contents of that logline?
ben_vulpes: OMIT any potentially sensitive data there.
mircea_popescu: 2015-03-14 08:29:22 LevelDB read failure: Corruption: block checksum mismatch
mircea_popescu: did you shutdown your pc uncleanly ? such as for instance power fsailure ?
cazalla: ben_vulpes, confident nothing in there, but even if there was, i have nothing more than bitcents on machine connected to internet
ben_vulpes: was that a fresh sync or using an old blockchain?
cazalla: it's about 8gb of blocks which i downloaded using 0.8.6 the other day
cazalla: so i copied em over into blocks dir here now and ran 0.8.6
cazalla: over the past few days i've tried a fresh install with 0.8.3, 0.8.6 and 0.10.0 and all have problems, and yes fresh as in fresh as i wiped hdd each time
ben_vulpes: Are you going to argue with Bruce Schneier? I didn't think so. << amazing pedigree
mircea_popescu: that idiocy aside, using skein's not necessarily a bad choice
mircea_popescu: this is what i meant : while the thing's not necessarily useful, at least it's trying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29867 @ 0.00035597 = 10.6318 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: cazalla: ok well are you game for some foundation support?
ben_vulpes: please don't make me build and test more bitcoinds
cazalla: well that's why i have a pogo otw
ben_vulpes: aws bill was insane for last three months
cazalla: i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back
cazalla: mircea_popescu even on fresh o/s with new install of bitcoin-qt?
cazalla: i'll go buy a cheap stick of ram tmw and try again
cazalla: ben_vulpes, unfortunately, i need a lot of hand holding as i can only get so far myself so i would likely cause you more trouble than be of help
ben_vulpes: when i'm done with you you'll be downright valuable.
cazalla: well, what would you need me to do and is it bandwidth intensive?
ben_vulpes: unlike some people i'm willing to train male slaves.
ben_vulpes: cazalla: you'll not be on the hook for b/w.
ben_vulpes: that'll have to come from my heirs legacy.
cazalla: no, i mean my use of it with home internet connection
cazalla: as long as it doesn't blow it to over say 100gb, i can help, i have some older machines here too if of any use
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168500 @ 0.00035151 = 59.2294 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: if you find that this is *not* a ram issue, i'll provide you ssh access to a thing on which you can run a bitcoind.
cazalla: i should be able to let you know whether it is or not by this time tmw
ben_vulpes: anyone who has other ideas re: muntzing cazalla's system please chime in
ben_vulpes: lady v returns from travels tomorrow noon pst, so i'll likely be unavailable though the pm.
cazalla: i'll leave you a note if you're not around anyway
ben_vulpes: tbf i'm more likely to get fucked into quiescence than vice versa
ben_vulpes: trinque was bitching earlier today about getting a 418 TEAPOT from a production point of sale system
mircea_popescu: "We dont think of bitcoin as being [...] an alternative currency [...]. We think of it as a medium for exchange"
mircea_popescu: lol i remember when she was teaching leterman wardrobe terms
mircea_popescu: "Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . .
ben_vulpes: i've been waiting for you to come around
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought her fucking tupac was public knowledge.
ben_vulpes: i just burnt my discretionary income on fundation expenses.
ben_vulpes: pretty much all req'd to hedge against famine months
ben_vulpes: "solemnly promise to not introduce personal expenses" etc etc
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assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00021105 / 0.00027001 / 0.000301 (59040 shares, 15.94 BTC)
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assbot: My wife has a useless degree and a history of mall jobs. Any advice to de-rutify her? : careerguidance ... (
http://bit.ly/1GDMbuD )
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the "reddit principally exists as source of pre-spun spam text, because the cult of bayesianism really does work", jesus christ check out that life history.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 180118 @ 0.00033836 = 60.9447 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the kicker, of course, being "She seems to think that professional careers require flawless writing ability, which I don't feel is the case."
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^ chgeck it out, the internet breaks a little more.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67640 @ 0.00033819 = 22.8752 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: interesting : he tries to fight obscurity, going to extreme lengths to put a spotlight on himself
funkenstein_: can i just say this is the first time i've been on television?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00033018 = 6.2074 BTC [-]
funkenstein_: based on how long it's taken me to find my way over here I am going to be a slow learner so thanks in advance for your patience
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00033371 = 27.6979 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00034015 = 11.8712 BTC [+]
funkenstein_: you can totally trust me. i can take a picture of myself licking a hammer.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 04:11:17; mircea_popescu: you should prolly get in the wot.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 05:01:21; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
assbot: funkenstein_ and funkenstein are not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: "We also migrated to the hosted platform as a service provided by Automattic on vip.wordpress.com. This enabled all of our costs and resources to be focused on growth as they didnt have to worry about caching, servers or anything that didnt improve experience for our readers or editorial users. "
mircea_popescu: "The amazing thing about the platform is that it is a flat fee. This means that although our traffic has grown 350% year on year our costs have not changed. The depth of their out of the box features plus ecosystem of plugins ensured that we didt have to worry about commodity features such as SEO, site maps and editorial workflows as someone else had built and open sourced an approach."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the thing's just been buying those spammy "related stories from across the net" slots. which... whatever. TRAFIC!
mircea_popescu: you could have bought that and driven it to a ytmnd for all the good they do anyone.
mircea_popescu: but gotta appreciate the "shared hosting for idiots thinking themselves corporate" thing. myths never die! INFINITE BANDWIDTH!!1
mircea_popescu: "A key growth hack we developed was the ability to show different headlines for social and search so we didnt impact our search traffic."
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assbot: The SECOND Official Ultra-Ever Dry Video - Superhydrophobic coating - Repels almost any liquid! - YouTube ... (
http://bit.ly/1x4PgEy )
ben_vulpes: the strategic banana is a red herring.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126000 @ 0.0003274 = 41.2524 BTC [+]
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chetty: oh hey I finally get to meet you guys :)
chetty: << plans to have eulora demp
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors << Bad Ram can keep a lot of things from working
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21215 @ 0.0003274 = 6.9458 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back << Rather high
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't mind travelling 24 hours, one less night have to spend in hotel lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.0003274 = 10.706 BTC [+]
chetty: travel can be fun if you relax and go with the flow, my first trip to Argentina was @29 hours
chetty: hahaha not sure thats a great choice for light airline reading
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99950 @ 0.00032926 = 32.9095 BTC [+] {3}
danielpbarron: got my hands on some old computers to play around with :D
danielpbarron: right now i'm gonna try to install openbsd 5.6 on an imac g4 via network
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Once you do that see if you can get a bitcoin build upon it.
assbot: Sources tell me the the NGC is working with Antiguan authorities and the Feds to shut down and to extradite an individual to Nevada soon.
danielpbarron: i feel like i'm in way over my head trying to figure out the pogo stuff without ever having done the same things on already well established paths
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well, if you manage to install OpenBSD it's basically closer to a normal OpenBSD environment than the pogo is.
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i paid around 0.8k << ftr this sounds about right.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if you aren't a miser, and don't want to layover in two separate banana republics summing to a full 24 hrs' journey each way << this however doesn't ?!
mircea_popescu: <chetty> << plans to have eulora hemp << what, no pot ? :D
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: miser, pauper, it's all the same
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64091 @ 0.00033473 = 21.4532 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: the local airport is nominally 'international', but only to select destinations and not many into s.a., much less efficiently over to the south atl.
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a point. istanbul is a major airtraffic hub. the us... not.
ben_vulpes: i'm probably going to spend 28hrs traveling both ways, and spend 1.1k
mircea_popescu: kinda like cccp was a "major airtrafic hub" for internal flights only.
ben_vulpes: i imagine the forbidden city is a bit more well trafficked.
ben_vulpes: perhaps next year i'll take two weeks off and spend a few days in nyc with friends
mircea_popescu: hm, no, that's an exageration. bout 5k an hour more like it.
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mircea_popescu: this is like... the frist time i saw something intelligent on tardstalk in... years ?!
fluffypony: what comes first, the chicken-vest or the egg-vest?
mircea_popescu: egg-vest. i guess i may be the only one still wearing three piece suits,
mircea_popescu: mostly because the sort of sluts i hang out with don't even have panties, but anyway.
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assbot: Logged on 14-03-2015 02:11:04; mike_c: gaming. for them, idk.
funkenstein: !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
assbot: A key with that fingerprint is already registered by funkenstein_