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mircea_popescu: if indeed gavin's key accidentally expires with no back-ups...
mircea_popescu: seems pretty much where bitcoin is destined to go, really.
mircea_popescu: but for the benefit of all the noobies/forumers/etc that may get to read this : notice dear chitlins how it was the WoT that broke that request ?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13824 @ 0.00091678 = 12.6736 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00090968 = 9.0968 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
ArsKisS: anyway, I keep my money waiting for the drop :P
ArsKisS: funny how so many ipos are so overvaluated
VanCleef: well, when pulling off a bitcoin scam you gotta tkae as many coins as you can
ArsKisS: well.. scam is a bit rough word
mircea_popescu: in general ipos tend to be overvalued because people suffer from a "money on the table" issue.
mircea_popescu: such as, if my "company" may live 10 years and be worth 10 btc, then i'll be damned if i sell for less than 10 btc today
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that no company to date lived 10 years.
mircea_popescu: and notwithstanding that the only ipo to date to make the owner actually rich (ie, mpoe) actually listed at two degrees of magnitude less than what it sells for.
mircea_popescu: this compounded of course by the fact that there's very few people with any sort of experience or ability in the field of bitcoin finance, and plenty of muppet venues available.
VanCleef: no bitcoin company is going ot last 10 years lol
VanCleef: yeah but lets not use bitbet its totally shit
VanCleef: i'm not locking away btc for 10years on a bet
mircea_popescu: why not ? from experience, the people who did best in btc are those who locked it away.
VanCleef: you'll probably be in jail or dead by then
ArsKisS: VanCleef, you actually wanna bet that none of bitcoin companies will live for 10 years?
pankkake: what if mpex is still online, but no one uses it? does that count?
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mircea_popescu: i take your meaning tho, you will be in jail or dead within the decade, therefore the world doesn't exist and doesn't matter.
pankkake: do you have an exit plan to somalia?
mircea_popescu: getting back to the original point, if no company is making it for 10 years then no company has any business listing.
mircea_popescu: just like if nobody is actually cooking anything as complex as a pizza there's no need for italian pizza ovens
VanCleef: all the ones that are listed now wont be around in 10 years
VanCleef: mostly talking about havelock here
mircea_popescu: VanCleef inasmuch as you limit the statement to "those venues all the forum idiots use", then you're prtobably right.
mircea_popescu: tho statistically there's probably going to be one or two unlikely exceptions
VanCleef: 10 years is a very long time in bitcoin world
mircea_popescu: only because "bitcoin world" as understood by muppets strictly consists of muppets, who have no intellectual ability to speak of, which limits their cognitive bubble rather severely.
mircea_popescu: but that aside, i know plenty of people with a decade or multi-decade outlook
mircea_popescu: course they're not "in" bitcoin according to... whatever, reddit.
mircea_popescu: plenty more people you should know about as they're public, caldwell, the russian pirate bet guy,
mircea_popescu: i won't name teh private, obviously, but i don't need to for this point either.
VanCleef: hmmm casares and vorhees hey, i'll have a look
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pankkake: someone got miners for christmas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3099998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7771 @ 0.0009147 = 7.1081 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ha! "people claim diamonds are forever, yet they're an absolute scam. the same people claim bitcoin is a scam, but really... bitcoin is forever."
kakobreklaa: ah people, last one you want to ask when you want to know about something, is people
kakobreklaa: here they say, you are "as hardworking as an ant"
kakobreklaa: yet they do not know 50% of ant workers pretend to be working their whole life
mircea_popescu: it really makes very little difference whether anyone can or can't use the bitcoins.
kakobreklaa: no i dont think ants are as humans, just humans are dumb
pankkake: in the sense that they pretend to be working
kakobreklaa: the ratio on htat with humans is prolly higher
mircea_popescu: it's not really dumb, for the ants. they didn't ask to be hatched there.
mircea_popescu: the problem with humans is that they ASK to join whatever shit they then don't help with
mircea_popescu: everyone applied & interviewed for the job they aren't doing.
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the20year1: Technically they're recoverable through brute force, however the resources to do that are immense
kakobreklaa: the20year but that goes true for lost and non lost coins
truffles: ure supposed to hand them out though
kakobreklaa: ahhh here is the list, tiber takes the top of naughy boys
truffles: is he the only person u banned?
the20year1: Any other clairifcation needed on the rentalstarter bond?
truffles: it could be ur good act for 2014, bring back tiber!
kakobreklaa: ok, guys, lets vote, type 1 for tib unban, or type 2 for truffles ban
truffles: clearly the only active around :D
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benkay: i maintain my own ignore file tho so it's not as if a t-ban's going to improve my life noticeably.
truffles: to ignore is to show preference though
Gotchawallet: almost inclined to press 2 so i will not press either because pressing 1 would mean hell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
truffles: i know i managed to survive these many years without #assets, dunno how i did
KRS|Gotyawallet: because you aren't a muppet i guess..they're easily spotted here.
KRS|Gotyawallet: at times I may have shown I've been uninformed (ignorant) but my intelligence pulls me through =D
truffles: there is lotta that everywhere
KRS|Gotyawallet: its like information overload..i'm having trouble digesting so much news and information sometimes. hard to keep up with and exhausting. i'm afraid i might miss something so i work real hard at it. the world moves pretty fast.
KRS|Gotyawallet: i started smoking these e-cigs (vaporizors) this one is english toffee. i like it so far
truffles: trolls prob would help u with filtering, putting them on ignore discourages this skill
KRS|Gotyawallet: yea they do help, anything that floats to the top of their froth seems to be worth looking at for a final decision as to whether its worth my time or not
truffles: sometimes some really smart ppl r so closed-minded or narrow minded and it kinda surprises me too much
mircea_popescu: <KRS|Gotyawallet> its like information overload. << try reading tvtropes sometime
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KRS|Gotyawallet: Tropes Are Tools, not clichés. - this will help me take a more critical approach to media
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KRS|Gotyawallet: yeah truffles you are right about that, i'm not sure what to make of it myself
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KRS|Gotyawallet: could be a number of different reasons, imo most of the time it has something to do with their personality type
truffles: easy example, can an intelligent person be racist?
KRS|Gotyawallet: i saw something on bitcoin tonight on tv- it was amazingly positive- its one of those off-brand "news" broadcasts. I shall see if I can find it.
mircea_popescu: truffles intelligent persons have in fact been racist historically.
truffles: but were they doing so cuz they felt it or cuz of actual goals
mircea_popescu: there's nothing intrinsic to intelligence that prevents racism (as you define it) nor is there in fact anything wrong with racism in principle
truffles: i see something wrong with it, but less so if its a means to an end
pankkake: less so? as in, if racism justifies slavery it's better than racism alone?
mircea_popescu: yes well. cheese is a particular way to process milk. racism is a particular way to process difference.
mircea_popescu: either can be eminently inadequate for a certain purpose or in a given circumstance
mircea_popescu: but outside of the agent, his purpose and his circumstances, they're just that, cheese.
VanCleef: i'm cool with racism as long as we can be homophobic too
kakobrekla: bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg4264071#msg4264071
VanCleef: i dont like them because they are commiting crimes against nature
pankkake: kakobrekla: using Nooble Chrome? :|
mircea_popescu: fun fact : with internet kid at plastics factory. kid notices large HTPP spelled out somewhere, decides they've misspelled
http kakobrekla: they decided to remove the option to show full url tards.
truffles: i started using opera to get away from firefox, it required too much !
pankkake: wow, even Opera is removing options now?
pankkake: the Chrome devs refuse to put an option, and close any bug on the subject without discussion
kakobrekla: you know what is the reasoning for that option removal
pankkake: it's a fucking option, put it behind an "Avanced do not go there"
pankkake: put it in about:config! oh, wait
mircea_popescu: not like you have to use their most recent brainfuck, or there's any incentive to do so
kakobrekla: i would have to go way back to get a non sucky version
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kakobrekla: also i thought their integration of webkit is going to save them
pankkake: KRS|Gotyawallet: lol the investor comments on the bottom look so like the ones of scams
pankkake: why the fuck are they using edison
KRS|Gotyawallet: they dont want to put the name 'bitcoin' out there right away because it seems they are offering investment plans on how to invest in it
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pankkake: and its silver to gold TeslaCoin
the20year1: i'm still considering a realestate coin
kakobrekla: just go use ripple or something rather!
ozbot: Frontiers in Zoology | Abstract | Dogs are sensitive to small variations of the Earth's magnetic fie
kakobrekla: Dogs preferred to excrete with the body being aligned along the North-south axis under calm MF conditions.
KRS|Gotyawallet: folks within the FED are probably starting to poop their pants a little on the liquid side 1Q14
Duffer1: you know.. just to make it weird
mircea_popescu: if there's anyone left with a working brain over there
KRS|Gotyawallet: I don't think the FED has ever been under so much attack as this day and age
the20year1: Since induction? I'd agree wholeheartedly
the20year1: People want competetion, competetion brings innovation
KRS|Gotyawallet: thinking everything up until now, but with the addition of digital currency
the20year1: Digital currency is the bigges threat because it's so easy to do, compared to physical stuff
KRS|Gotyawallet: Libertarians, competing foreign currency, digital currency
the20year1: granted the late 70s weren't too easy on inflation
the20year1: But alot of people made out like bandits. My grandparents got 5-10 year CD locks at 15%+ interest
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KRS|Gotyawallet: makes me wonder how my parents did so well..even considering the high unemployment of the early-mid 80's
the20year1: most of the people i know who were adults during the 80s did extraordinarily well
the20year1: Significantly lower cost of living, easier time getting a job
the20year1: Locally, a typical waitress could go out, and buy a lower end house with a FHA mortgage for her median income, alone
Duffer1: your college degree was actually worth something..
benkay: and it's not there now?!
KRS|Gotyawallet: Dyffer1 good point- i was shocked after going to college to see just how worthless a degree was..i felt like i wasted my time, but I'm happy to have been educated.
benkay: dat good old "labor participation" fudge factor
benkay: you guys eat these government employment statistics up wholly credulously
the20year1: laborparticipation is the one standard that hasn't been changed since the 80s
the20year1: unemployment I believe has been changed twice
Duffer1: they stop counting those that stop looking (are forced off benefits)
ozbot: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
benkay: dig into the conspiracy theory areas yourself
benkay: there are some slim pickings of useful information out there.
the20year1: so what statistics do you believe benkay?
Duffer1: i define unemployment as any mode below personal sustainability
Duffer1: which would include under-employed
truffles: below personal sustainability?
benkay: the whole notion is fucked. there's a generation out there laboring at fast food operations under a few tens of thousands of dollars of debt undertaken for useless degrees.
benkay: but hey they're 'employed'
benkay: it's like counting labor camps in the employment numbers
truffles: everyone cant get that nice office job like u benkay
Duffer1: truffles an amount that can sustain you without forced reliance on a welfare system
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the20year1: the thing is , there are tons of great jobs out there that don't require college degrees
the20year1: I know two guys that have told me more than once, if I wanted to weld/tend oil lines i could start off making $60k-$70k a year
benkay: and zero americans electing to not get degrees.
the20year1: they have dozens of jobs available, no one wants them
benkay: precisely. over educated and unwilling to work manual jobs.
the20year1: Within 5 years I'd be making over $100k/yr, if I kept with it
the20year1: One is a line manager for one of the largest power co-ops in the US, he can't keep anyone
benkay: yeah man if you like putting your hands on the line every time you go to work
truffles: like thats some pretty job omg
benkay: i got out of the atom-smashing business a while ago
benkay: plus you can't smoke pot
the20year1: Trans-state oil lines that run underground, you go from station to station checking readings, making sure lines are being maintained and built
benkay: modern hippies would rather not work than take a job that keeps them off the reefer
truffles: benkay and the20year1 must be trollin now
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the20year1: My contractor says the same thing, no one wants to work, he approached a half dozen guys who keep complaining about there being no jobs in town. Offered $15/hr starting pay, none would do it
the20year1: Central Ohio, about 20mi south of Columbus
the20year1: 7.5% unemployment rate, according to bls
truffles: so these jobs that no one wants are only available in Ohio?
the20year1: I doubt it, the gas line I mentioned runs from colorado to PA
the20year1: Most of the skilled trades are dying for workers
the20year1: HVAC, plumbing, electrical, auto repair
the20year1: Our median individual income is around $28k/yr , the median plumber rate is $80/hr
pankkake: KRS|Gotyawallet: anyone opening that link at work just lost their jobs. congratulations!
truffles: so ure talking about skilled labor not the jobs that random joes can get
the20year1: The ones that take 6-12 months of on the job training before you have somewhat reasonable skill and can go under a contractor, a few years there and you can write your own ticket
benkay: pankkake: same with anyone opening that link. what of it?
benkay: maybe they should get a job as a welder
the20year1: There's a pretty good bit of information on the problem from mike rowe
the20year1: Around here, if you're a decently skilled welder the rates are ~$100/hr
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KRS|Gotyawallet: most welders don't only weld they are also fabricators and that is why
mircea_popescu: KRS|Gotyawallet> bekay I think its near 8% << depends how you count it
the20year1: There's a huge percieved difference between jobs, so much so that people are willing a 50% pay cut for something that they percieve as a good job
mircea_popescu: 8% of the people actively looking for a job can't find one. 30% or so of the people who could work do not
mircea_popescu: part of them through being homeless/bums. part through pretending to be sick.
the20year1: For instance, a good friend of mine owned about a dozen subways (Sub shops), and they paid about $8/hr starting wage, work there for a year and you're up to $12 a hour if you don't make management (most do by that point) and you're up to $14
the20year1: no education, 401k, pretty decent work overall
the20year1: They continue to take polls and check data, and every single time workers were asked, they were all willing to quit and change their job to work at a bank for minimum wage, just because of the percieved class difference between fast food and working at a bank
the20year1: and he had quite a bit of statistics from various employment firms, since most fast food workers were so transient
truffles: the list of questions id have to ask is too much to resolve this in my mind, so ill end here :D
the20year1: He's always interesting to talk to, asside from owning a dozen or so subways, the company he ran had gross sales of $30m-$40m a year
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ozbot: » Global Warming Scientists Still Trapped In Record-Level Antarctic Ice Alex Jones' Infowars: Ther
kakobrekla: you link infowars, im starting to belive gw is real
pankkake: my source is French, then googled the first stuff I could find. what's infowars?
Duffer1: i'm afraid to load the comments
Duffer1: i can't even remember why i read the whole post..
ozbot: Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan On Gun Control - CNN 1/7/2013 - YouTube
kakobrekla: well keiser is funny sometimes but else meh
Duffer1: a retard vs a british pundit talking about american gun control
mircea_popescu: best part about alex jones i discovered is that hes kinda flabby fat
mircea_popescu: nothing funnier than a very excited conspiracy theorist that looks like a bank clerk
mircea_popescu: need somewhat of a el che look to pull off crazy in a cool way.
Duffer1: he looks so average american it's scary
truffles: doesnt coke make u skinny though
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truffles: 3:00-3:11 is my fav of that clip
truffles: how many great white sharks kill people etc lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00091144 = 5.7421 BTC [+]
truffles: i havent seen anyone just shut down piers like alex jones besides jessie ventura
Duffer1: piers was more like a dog presenting
Duffer1: i like how he dismisses gang violence so casually
Duffer1: i mean really who cares about all them blacks killin eachother
Duffer1: that's not "real" gun violence
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00091144 = 12.0766 BTC [+]
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mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny to watch all the aggitation over the black minority from afar. there's about 50% more latino people in the us, nobody is all too excited about THEIR poor prospects and poor access
truffles: maybe the latino's are shooting the blacks?
Duffer1: largest is white if you count our police forces
Duffer1: the political discussion when it comes to latinos circles almost exclusively on immigration
mod6: the walls they build to keep out the mexicans will someday keep the fleeing americans out of mexico
ohider: with EMF weapons who needs walls just tell people what/where to go
ohider: i have an idea that I want to get some feedback on
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00091144 = 7.565 BTC [+]
twizt: i set a password so hard on my nick
mircea_popescu: twizt write all your pws down, encrypt the file to your gpg key.
BingoBoingo: Thankfully the WoT doesn't depend on Nickserv's security
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00090847 = 15.762 BTC [-] {2}
twizt: whats "n_unredeemed":2, on blockchain?
twizt: is that unconfirmed bal?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Thanks. I'm still contemplating other elements of dated 90's web aesthetics I could incorporate without succumbing to animated Gifs.
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pankkake: needs "under construction" image
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.317 BTC [+]
pankkake: oh god I forgot about mouse trails
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.003151 = 0.3151 BTC [+] {9}
ohider: if bitcoin tip works on reddit would that system work on a website that students can post their work?
Duffer1: for a homework buying website?
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ohider: a legitimate way of getting paid for the work that you do in class
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.319 BTC [-]
truffles: college athletes dont get proper compensation, heh
ohider: if people want to steal ideas and resubmit theres no stopping that but if students can have a way of getting paid the motivation of doing school work is changed
ohider: and also use bitcoin to pay student athletes
pankkake: but you expect people to "tip" for homework? I don't see the relation to reddit
ohider: my website is boco.bit
Duffer1: using bitcoin would be a good way to get caught
Duffer1: wouldn't you want something without a public ledger if you don't want to worry about getting expelled?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.318 BTC [-]
ozbot: 2012 Harvard cheating scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
pankkake: cheating is so "normal" in education… it's just stupid
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.318 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I dunno Bitcoin might be a great way to get around NCAA prohibitions on paying college athletes if it is done right.
ohider: shit ok i need to do some more work
ohider: buy bit coins through localbitcoin.com all across the country and use those to pay your atheletes
ohider: the costs would be plane flights and use to buy bitcoin
ohider: if you are buying bitcoin with cash its best to do it all over the country so no one remembers you so you would need to travel some
BingoBoingo: ohider: Nah, it is fine if people remember you buying. It might also be helpful with that little trust business...
ohider: if you are buying large amounts of bitcoin, the seller will remember you
Duffer1: you would need an enormous amount of bitcoins to pay college athletes what they bring in for their states annually
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00090868 = 18.946 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: That much is probably unreasonable, but Bitcoin could be away for school's boosters to continue continuting to athletes as they have always done, and probably in richer amounts.
ohider: fuck why not there an article about a homeless guy who has a tablet and a solar panel that lives off bitcoin
ozbot: Homeless, Unemployed, and Surviving on Bitcoins | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
Duffer1: did you read that article?
pankkake: didn't read the article but sounds like the usual hype
Duffer1: pure horseshit is another word for it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah. School boosters generally have a motivation for paying student athletes in that the more homework the athlete can afford the moar handegg they can practice and hopefully the more the team wins. What the athlete in this scheme would probably end with is not the Bitcoins, but some other value for which Bitcoins provide a measure of plausible deniability.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.317 = 3.17 BTC [-]
ohider: i goat ask who's long on name coin?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.317 = 1.268 BTC [-]
ohider: what is more valuable, 1 unit of name coin or a name coin url
ohider: gotta fuckin auto correct
Duffer1: i like namecoin, i'd have a very small position if things were different
Duffer1: that's actually saying a lot since imo most alts are shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.0491 = 2.5041 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00091144 = 2.3697 BTC [+]
ohider: Duffer1 why is that article about homeless dude horseshit?
ohider: whats the motivation of media covering that story?
Duffer1: 650+ a day clicking 12 videos that pay .00000001 per click
ohider: the second one about the guy w/ solar panel and tablet
Duffer1: oh dunno didn't read, is he surviving on coins he already had or is he magically earning something from nothing like the wired article?
ohider: dude is a dev and homeless by choice. A "Into the Wild" type dude
ohider: but he is homeless and can't get a bank account
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it was bs when it first came out, it still is.
truffles: cant raise a family homeless..
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ohider: who is long on litecoin being that scrypt asic is coming down the line
ohider: will asic do to litecoin what it did to bitcoin ?
ohider: I hear this shit about bitcoin needs litecoin like gold needs silver. Is the next investment a coin that is impervious to asic?
mircea_popescu: seeing how possibly the onl;y thing keeping ltc alive is the insistent dedication of people who wish to mine but can't afford asics
mircea_popescu: going from the fringe fave to the mainstream clone is a move few survive
ohider: is the game up when this is solved?
ozbot: P versus NP problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Duffer1: "if one is provided with information showing what the answer is, it may be possible to"
Duffer1: i thought i might be going somewhere with that but i care so little i'm having trouble even fini
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0009083 = 11.1267 BTC [-]
pankkake: litecoin would need asics to survive, but it will not please litecoiners
ohider: doesn't asic allow people who have huge amounts of capital to make waves in the bitcoin environment
ohider: asic costs a lot but you get a lot of bang for your buck
Duffer1: the only ones making money on asics are the manufacturers
ohider: if GE wants to kill bitcoin they could just buy a shit ton of asic technology and dominate it
pankkake: gpus cost a lot too… (except of course that most litecoiners are 15 year olds who don't pay for gpus and electritiy)
pankkake: if you want to "dominate" litecoin just rent botnets or supercomputers for a day
Duffer1: it would take the efforts of a major nation to attempt such an attack on bitcoin
pankkake: asics just make attacks costlier
Duffer1: it might even already be to late for them to produce something capable of it
pankkake: well, with asics closer to industry standards, yes
ohider: all you need to kill bitcoin is to create distrust in the people who believe in it
ohider: the dreaded 51% attack would be one way of doing that
ohider: how much would that cost
ohider: if bitcoin threatens fiat wouldn't that be a small price to pay to kill it
pankkake: they would have to kill it early - if they take interest when it's actually challenging, it's going to be much harder
Duffer1: that assumes any of the other 189 nations wouldn't work in proportional measure to protect it, let alone the x amount of bitcoiners who already have billions in it not acting to protect themselves
Duffer1: there's a relevant trilema article on this somewhere
pankkake: why would a state chose to use/protect bitcoin? (real question)
Duffer1: to spite a rival nation / state that wants to kill it
ohider: if its bullet proof its a way to get off the USD
pankkake: though I could see it. like kings who made their countries democracies to avoid being overthrown
Duffer1: if the US tried to kill bitcoin, i'd bitbet china would work to protect it
Duffer1: oh i didn't say it was bulletproof
pankkake: i don't really believe in those politics. it has to make sense economically
Duffer1: it's manmade, so there's that against it already
Duffer1: ok maybe not china, but maybe putin wouldn't pass up such an opportunity to spit in the US' eye
ohider: @ pankkake where does that figure come from in that coinmetrics
pankkake: they explain it on the website
Duffer1: i like how the natural cost of mining equipment for bitcoin is included in the "Defense Spending" catagory
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1324 @ 0.00129336 = 1.7124 BTC [-] {11}
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pankkake: and they seem to use multisig transactions too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00090934 = 5.456 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00090934 = 1.4095 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00091144 = 4.7395 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.0009083 = 11.0358 BTC [-]
ohider: I'm trying to convince my roommate to get into bitcoin
ohider: he doesn't want to but i know there's a breaking poit
ohider: whats the best argument to go about this
Duffer1: it's the only shot your generation has at any wealth
Duffer1: ground investment in a platform and method of value transfer that has never existed before
pankkake: why do you want to convince him?
ohider: for xmas i gave 0.15 btc to everyone in my familye
ohider: so if it gets accepted and the price goes up, i make money
ohider: my brother thinks I'm a crazy man
pankkake: the thing is, if you tell people to buy bitcoins, and they lose money… oops
ohider: my little brother has no idea what it is
ohider: but my mom thinks its the tits
Duffer1: it's a modern experiment their investment is directly funding science
ohider: the best thing about it is now everyone has bitcoin
ohider: if they want to cash it out
ohider: they have to figure out how to
Duffer1: and disrupting economic / social theory
ohider: so in a way they educate themselves about bitcoin
Duffer1: i'm kinda nearing the end of my list here, does your family support relatives overseas or own a business that accepts visa/mastercard/paypal?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31001201 BTC [-]
ohider: thats a negative ghost rider
Duffer1: ah so a rant on tx fees wouldn't sway them.. hmm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32424997 = 1.297 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.32738461 = 4.256 BTC [+] {3}
Duffer1: bitcoin payments bypass usurious paypal/mastercard/visa/western union processing fees etc
Duffer1: so if they had a business and could get their customers to pay then in btc, they'd save a ton of money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.325 = 1.625 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04999999 = 0.5 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: what arguments have you tried?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.326 = 0.978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3142 @ 0.00090741 = 2.8511 BTC [-]
ohider: roomate won't accept it
ohider: he refuses on the basis that he just doesn't want it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1297 @ 0.00090741 = 1.1769 BTC [-]
ohider: my argument is that there is nothing to lose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14143 @ 0.00090592 = 12.8124 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: oh wait you're trying to give him .1 and he doesn't want it?
ohider: i want to propagate bitcoin and am willing to send him 0.01 btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00090583 = 6.2049 BTC [-]
pankkake: unless it's free bitcoins well…
ohider: what is there to lose for getting a wallet and accepting free bitcoin
ohider: fuck it I'm in a giving mood first address i see gets 0.01 btc
Duffer1: 1JWUtyUEVauc2so2Pb2mF4XjsfcdvXYczB
mircea_popescu: <ohider> if GE wants to kill bitcoin they could just buy a shit ton of asic technology and dominate it << way too late for that.
pankkake: I missed the "buy" part - if you want to 51% attack, you will never get enough by just buying
Duffer1: thank you that is very much appreciated ohider
ohider: my buddies website he needs some advertisement
ohider: i'm still at the developing stage though
Duffer1: i don't think i read exactly what it was you wanted to do with the site
ohider: students post their work along with a bitcoin address
Duffer1: essays and homework i'm assuming?
ohider: if its good people will donate
ohider: whatever they feel confident in
ohider: if people are willing to tip fellow redditors for three sentence posts, whats the value of a dynamite research paper
mircea_popescu: did you do your research to know what % of students can access .bit domains ?
ohider: namecoin is in its infancy
ohider: i bought 5 or 6 domain names
BingoBoingo: ohider: Namecoin is a 4 year old infant then...
mircea_popescu: no, you are in your infancy. namecoin has been in its infancy since at least 2011
ohider: what .bit site do you frequent
mircea_popescu: when i first bought some domains that i never bothered develop.
pankkake: I'm a fan of namecoin and I can't even access it
pankkake: oh, well, it really resolves to 10.0.0.7 - so there's nothing?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the research papers online model chiefly works on the basis of their vast database of already submitted papers which they own and don't pay the authors for [anymore]. unless you have 1000s of works of already stale material it'll be a tough nut to crack.
ohider: the idea of some company buying the domain name you squated on is a pipe dream
ohider: so my brother goes to a really good art school
ohider: what if students could put up there art work
ohider: if you want to print a poster to put on your wall
ohider: what would you pay for that artwork
BingoBoingo: How are you going to compete with actual printed works from nubbins' who is already in the WOT?
Duffer1: does nubs screenprint everything? i thought he just did his own designs
mircea_popescu: presumably nubbins is only one person so he can get overloaded
BingoBoingo: I imagine eventually nubs could move to the sweatshop model
Duffer1: ohider i don't think there's a bitcoin tip function for deviantart, but if a website like deviantart started accepting bitcointip and it became popular, deviantart would just add it and you'd be s.o.l.
ohider: it may be idealist but i think that there is value in academic work
Duffer1: do they? it's been a while since i've been shopping
mircea_popescu: i dont think i ever shoip there but i recall some pretty nude young thing telling me she got some btc from selling her artwork
Duffer1: i think you're right, i just don't see how you'll be able to monetize
ohider: dude look at bitcoin tip on reddit
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mircea_popescu: yah, speaking of which, do you have global figures of the reddit tip thing ? what's monthly total ?
ohider: so i can get 0.001 btc for writing some shit on a blog
Duffer1: right but what i'm asking is how do you make your money? would you take a % of the tip?
Duffer1: i'm pretty sure reddittip doesn't do that
ohider: at first I'm not making money
ohider: i want my site to be exclusive to the university that i go to
ohider: it will be a site that only students can register accounts on but anyone can view/donate
ohider: i don't want to reinvent the wheel but it will be a craigslist/kickstart for anything college kids want
BingoBoingo: ohider: First I'd want to know what university... The wrong one could kill this whole thing at the start
ohider: funding for a school group or organization
ohider: funding for some killer architecture model you designed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00090721 = 1.0887 BTC [+]
Duffer1: a bitcoin crowdsourcing site that's also a craigslist like marketplace for anything?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16524 @ 0.00091151 = 15.0618 BTC [+] {2}
ohider: it has to be on the furnace above board
Duffer1: if users are free to list whatever they went then you'll have to actively police the listings
ohider: say I'm a seller selling custom t shirts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32 = 0.64 BTC [-]
gribble: Nick 'ohider', with hostmask 'ohider!43be67b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.190.103.182', is not identified.
ohider: i post my ad for these shirts and say hey, heres my bit message address i don't want to discuss financials over email or phone.
ohider: i might be selling t shirts or i might be selling contraband
ohider: on my side, the t shirt business is legit legal
ohider: so im not worried about what sellers are actually selling
ohider: just give them the means through bitcoin. bit message to do whatever they wabt
Duffer1: with each of the platforms you're talking about using, you're adding another hurdle for joeshmo customer
Duffer1: .bit first bit message second
ohider: if joeshmo user wants to buy an 8ball
BingoBoingo: And all of these platforms for some tiny consumer use
ohider: they will figure it out
Duffer1: your target market just doesn't exist man
Duffer1: they'd have to 1 - know about and use bitcoin and special handling for .bit domains, 2 - will have to exist at your school exclusively, 3 - understand bitmessage communication, 4 - do drugs
Duffer1: silk road was just bitcoin and tor
ohider: theres a feeling of being "in" when your privy to ways of getting illegal shit
ohider: im not loping for a huge consumer base
ohider: just those kids who are willing to do the work
mircea_popescu: well, that feeling of being in has a way of turning into a reality of being in.
ohider: imagine if silk road was exclusive to a small community
Duffer1: it would be absurdly easy to shut the whole network down
ohider: but on top of exclusively buying illegal contraband it actually had a higher purpose
Duffer1: get everyone busted/expelled
mircea_popescu: for instance, the silkroad kid they caught by discovering that he came here going "hey guise, how would someone make like a bitcoin tor craigslist"
Duffer1: i think a bitcoin based localized community market is a great idea, maybe not so profitable but still something i think people would use
mircea_popescu: except college kids rarely are part of the local community
Duffer1: but to take that one step further into facilitating drug trade, i don't believe you're ready to hide from the awesome and terrifying might of the usgov
ohider: im not initially worried about making money with the marketplace
ohider: if something has value there are ways of making money off it
ohider: look up how craigslist makes money
Duffer1: certainly but is the risk an par with the reward
ohider: the guy is a fucking genius / billionaire
Duffer1: you risk 20+ years in prison for x amount of cash
mircea_popescu: im gonna print these out for when i'm old. just too good stuff.
BingoBoingo: ohider: Seems like it's time for you to register with Gribble and get to reading
BingoBoingo: ohider: Or mayb flip the order of reading and registering aroud
Duffer1: try the bitcoin-otc link, that'll have web of trust, otc, gribble etc
mircea_popescu: incredible how often that is said about google these days
ohider: i need to setup a safe email
ohider: is there such a thing?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.0031849 = 0.1306 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ohider: GPG can keep contents safe, but you'll still leave metadata around.
BingoBoingo: Completely safe untraceable email isn't a thing. You need to worry more about protecting messages than trying to protect the channel.
BingoBoingo: Dunno that bitmessage is too worth looking into, there seems to be some vulnerabilities associated with how it works
ozbot: Bitmessage v1.0: completely broken crypto | bitslog
ohider: @mircea_popecsu are you the real dude
Duffer1: ;;gpg ident mircea_popescu
gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
Duffer1: based on the replies you got i'd say it's probably not a nick squater :P
ohider: ok I'm out stay tuned boco.bit will be up this month
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00091074 = 2.7778 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00091074 = 1.3661 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00090964 = 3.6386 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5533 @ 0.00091233 = 5.0479 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00091313 = 6.118 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.0014996 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0030911 = 0.1113 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 226 @ 0.001 = 0.226 BTC
Duffer1: that article ws pretty low hanging fruit
benkay: my fruits hang pretty low as well
pankkake: cascadia: first province of the cryptostate
benkay: gotta give the hipsters something to chew on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00090956 = 23.6031 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: what rss reader do you use, pankkake
Duffer1: hate all you want, reddit still delivers
benkay: quality of us "journalism" has declined to the point where the journos are now the story and the story is a picture
benkay: come march i'll be able to bike across the bridge and get my ganj on in the free market too.
Duffer1: might even be able to pay btc for it too
benkay: and why would i do that now!?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0009105 = 9.2871 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: thanks for the post idea: bitcoins aren't for spending. stop being retarded, silicon valley.
Duffer1: i dunno man, people still need to treat it as a currency to some degree
Duffer1: if everyone just held then it would be a pure speculation vehicle for fiat and not much else
Duffer1: was that mihm article yours benkay?
benkay: "to some degree" can be all sorts of things: international transfers, intergenerational transfers, highly obscured transfers, uninterdictable transfers
benkay: some day it'll be useful in day-to-day shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00318659 = 0.1434 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: not now. not for ten years, likely as not. and maybe even local fiat is more useful at that point, and those who are lucky enough to hold butts will transfer in and out of local fiat scrip as appropriate for their cashflow needs.
benkay: mircea_popescu has an article about deflationary currencies around somewhere.
benkay: Duffer1: yes, that's mine.
benkay: you'll note the link to my otc profile at the bottom of the page.
KRS|Gotyawallet: is it worth looking at otc for good buys or mostly market price?
benkay: a good price for a tiny amount of butts, or a clean transaction that keeps your name out of the dirt?
KRS|Gotyawallet: oh i see umm i'm not sure what you mean about the second part
benkay: some people don't really feel like going through the AML/KYC rectal analysis.
benkay: or whatever the eurobutt equivalent is.
benkay: mp says these things and everyone's like "u crazy romanian:
benkay: i suppose he leaves the whys and wherefores to the low hanging fruits
KRS|Gotyawallet: i'm not understanding sturles pricing..weird. wonder if he's quoting pesos
benkay: firing up an #otc reputation a few months ago and ramping up your trades looks like a real good idea in retrospect, doesn't it?
Duffer1: rather unfortunate username for that plan though man
Duffer1: i cringe everytime i see thick-as-thieves
KRS|Gotyawallet: theres another KRS so I was going to slowly change over..thanks for making me realize this.
Duffer1: bro take a second to say that outloud :)
KRS|Gotyawallet: Duffer1: I never understood that about TaT and considering what he does
benkay: we're all prisoners of our past decisions.
KRS1: no matter how old i get i never seem to have enough foresight
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00091052 = 6.8744 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: kinda low hanging, kinda not put the effort into doing the whole job, either.
mircea_popescu: you can be sloppy and genius, you can be trite and thorough.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.0009108 = 1.5939 BTC [+]
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 18 hours, 8 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> CySEC is the Cyprus Exchange
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47327 @ 0.00091379 = 43.2469 BTC [+] {8}
Duffer1: ah i didn't mean ben's article, i meant the bloomberg one
Duffer1: i'll wait till he starts charging for it, then say it sucks so i can get cheaper price
mircea_popescu: anyway, bekay : more data less opinion. opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one. data is like cunt, everyone needs some.
KRS1: Ah sunrise here on the US east coast. Gonna go enjoy the fresh air with a cigarette.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.00319659 = 0.2078 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10636 @ 0.00091041 = 9.6831 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00091177 = 6.8383 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 954 @ 0.00091177 = 0.8698 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 74 @ 0.05 = 3.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.05 = 35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10335 @ 0.00091394 = 9.4456 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00091426 = 12.9825 BTC [+] {2}
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jcpham: all my boxen were rooted when i got to work
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00091167 = 5.0598 BTC [+]
b0n1: someone here having some insight informations about black arrows prospero x-3 asics?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 288 @ 0.05 = 14.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1444 @ 0.05 = 72.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 50 @ 0.00324 = 0.162 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.001 = 0.17 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 70 @ 0.0037 = 0.259 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9990 @ 0.001 = 9.99 BTC
ozbot: 'Military-Style' Raid on California Power Station Spooks U.S.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14059 @ 0.00091445 = 12.8563 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34691 @ 0.00091567 = 31.7655 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6961 @ 0.00091639 = 6.379 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34139 @ 0.00091683 = 31.2997 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3340 @ 0.000093 = 0.3106 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02200001 = 0.242 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 70 @ 0.34161341 = 23.9129 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34799999 = 1.044 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6166 @ 0.00091719 = 5.6554 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34799999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00091584 = 15.6151 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00091262 = 11.8184 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00091017 = 0.3186 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 128 @ 0.001 = 0.128 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34833333 = 1.045 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.04911104 = 0.4911 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.021016 = 1.0508 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: although, i'm not sure wallst. babies would survive here :D
ozbot: If you own 3000 or more BTC, Wall Street wants your advice : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: it'd be really hard to say "My name is Joe Schmoe and I've been working WS for 20 years"
mircea_popescu: it has to be anon. because people with actual jobs and actual histories behave exactly like redditards. it's redditrule.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure if bill gates introduces himself it's never "Hi, I'm Bill Gates, I used to own Microsoft". It's definitely "Hi I'm passionate about lasagna and I have a 20 year career in like computer stuff and such."
jurov: and to valiantly fight cancer and aids
jurov: it prolly needs to name the celebs
jurov: aka "either kanye west or justin bieber will start altcoinz"
jurov: lol too much for ozbot?
mircea_popescu: course the problem will be some redditard will start a dr dre coin
mircea_popescu: and well... it's unlikely he'll get sued or anyone will actually care.
jurov: if must be officially endorsed by said celeb
pankkake: some retard started a bernanke coin so
mircea_popescu: such as they make a twitter reply going "That;s hot" in responmse to the guy's @ ?
mircea_popescu: basically the problem of postmodernism is that words don't mean anything anymore ;/.
mircea_popescu: attempting to put them to some useful purpose is not much unlike trying to put computers to some useful purpose
mircea_popescu: as computers also long ceased doing anything particular, like say math.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: the celebrity could create value for the currency by selling tickets in that currency << Ha. This needs to happen.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.0000988 = 0.2964 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.34899999 = 3.49 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00290003 = 0.3886 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: lol the guy actually edited his reddit thing to include his name
mircea_popescu: well, so i guess it's time someone tells him about how the unclueless WS has been on assets all this time.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00090979 = 14.966 BTC [-] {3}
the20year: The things you see when you don't have enough cash....
mike_c: what would you get in rent for that?
the20year: Maybe $750, the location is fantastic
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1500 @ 0.001 = 1.5 BTC
mike_c: which is well above what a mortgage payment would cost. craziness.
mike_c: i am surprised that there is such a group of people that are qualified to rent a home for $700 a month but can't get a $70k mortgage. seems depressing, but I guess there are much worse things in the world.
the20year: Mortgage would run about $200 a month
the20year: Mortgage would require you save some money back for a down payment
mike_c: that's not realistic. would need to get money to fix it up
mike_c: more like 550 probably
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.0009094 = 4.6252 BTC [-]
mike_c: and a landlord who will take you. i guess if you're in the business of quick evictions you don't worry about reliability much. turnover is a bitch though.
mike_c: was that for the record? ;)
the20year: I shoot for turnover every 2 years, with 3 weeks of vacancy
the20year: Yes, it was. There's no reason to get tenants that will tear your house up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0009094 = 12.0041 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0028891 = 0.1127 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00287205 = 0.3332 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: pretty crazy scorch marks on the walls
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.34985713 = 2.449 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: yeah, i'm just surprised to see it
nubbins`: guess it's more the wallpaper than anything
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assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191 @ 0.0009094 = 0.1737 BTC [-]
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00090583 / 0.000913 / 0.00092376 (946189 shares, 863.87 BTC), 7D: 0.0007653 / 0.00087744 / 0.00092376 (5331526 shares, 4,678.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00062972 / 0.00087587 / 0.00092376 (19902934 shares, 17,432.58 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00090858 = 4.4848 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5746 @ 0.00090847 = 5.2201 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 90 @ 0.001899 = 0.1709 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.0000988 = 0.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00091135 = 10.3438 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 199 @ 0.00320431 = 0.6377 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 754 @ 0.00327973 = 2.4729 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1000 @ 0.00330876 = 3.3088 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00333193 = 0.1533 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2852 @ 0.0009148 = 2.609 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 35754 @ 0.001 = 35.754 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6007 @ 0.00009886 = 0.5939 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00091346 = 0.3197 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00343688 = 0.3059 BTC [+] {4}
wao-ender: also slovak article about CYE is out
jurov: wao right, gotta have your priorities
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1681 @ 0.00091277 = 1.5344 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00091276 = 9.4927 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17852 @ 0.00091169 = 16.2755 BTC [-] {2}
didlySquat: anybody know when the BitBet monthly staement will come out?
jurov: didlySquat: should come out till 5th
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00342402 = 0.1096 BTC [-]
jurov: also S.MPOE divs should come imminent
jurov: if they aren't deprecated :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0009148 = 4.8027 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 34461 @ 0.001 = 34.461 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00091067 = 3.0963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00091067 = 5.2819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00090907 = 41.3627 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8548 @ 0.00091081 = 7.7856 BTC [+]
ozbot: Livermore's Centennial Light Bulb Cam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00090946 = 4.1835 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00090988 = 9.0988 BTC [+] {2}