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pete_dushenski: indeed.
hanbot: mp actually eats the stuff. brrr.
pete_dushenski: i ate smoked salmon exlusively for first 3 years, then not again for another 25
trinque now considers that the dick-clam is probably delicious.
trinque: just more clam mantle, right?
trinque: http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/10/the-nasty-bits-geoduck-how-to-cook-recipe.html << sounds so
assbot: The Nasty Bits: Geoduck | Serious Eats ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ku88RT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49750 @ 0.00071262 = 35.4528 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: argentina is weird #89546 : the best cognac thing they have here (reserva san juan) retails (IN THE STORE!) for like 80 pesos a bottle.
mircea_popescu: about 5 bux.
mircea_popescu: which makes it "cheap" so no fucking bar ever carries it
mircea_popescu: they carry all the fucktarded imported us shit i wouldn't pour in my drain. beefeather ? srsly ? to what, kill lice with ?
mircea_popescu: they got badly faked mumm, they don't got the local stuff. and god fucking forbid i ask for the best rum in the world (centenario anejo especial) because they don't import it from nearby costa rica
mircea_popescu: they gotta import fucking what's that shit called, captain wedgepants
mircea_popescu: blergh.
mircea_popescu: and now in our "the greatness of the atomic family" series, http://41.media.tumblr.com/qoXAtsJnN2fu8lmtQYQqvbcw_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iu8zFQ )
gabriel_laddel: "god fucking forbid i ask for the best rum in the world (centenario anejo especial) because they don't import it from nearby costa rica" << lol
pete_dushenski: spiced 'captain wedgepants' and diet coke is a popular drink in these parts. with men !
pete_dushenski: don't ask me how
pete_dushenski: might be related to 'truck nutz'
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/njE9Bw4rv2eg33gaji6PkUvx_400.jpg << back when the libertards cared. because bush!
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iu9CFE )
pete_dushenski: !s truck nutz
assbot: 0 results for 'truck nutz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=truck+nutz
pete_dushenski: !s truck nuts
assbot: 0 results for 'truck nuts' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=truck+nuts
mircea_popescu: anyway, to be fair actual cuban havana club is very good. but so often counterfeit...
pete_dushenski: https://chivethethrottle.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/nuts-500-truck-nutz-hooterswtmk.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iu9HcC )
pete_dushenski: sikorsky sea king helicopter for gw ? sounds ruskie (yes, i know it isn't) ☟︎
pete_dushenski: well, sikorsky aircraft is only as 'american' as chevrolet
pete_dushenski: who, yes, was swiss-born
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only nato maker of heavy helicopters that actuallyfly
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/29/planes-trains-automobiles-and-atomic-dirigibles-der-schweiz/ << re chevy
assbot: Planes, trains, und atomic dirigibles der Schweiz. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0o7fq )
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well nothing could be worse than osprey ☟︎
pete_dushenski: which makes f-35 program look like challenger
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124450 @ 0.00069583 = 86.596 BTC [-] {9}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256310 << inventor of modern helicopter. as american as fucking ayn rand. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 00:40:20; pete_dushenski: sikorsky sea king helicopter for gw ? sounds ruskie (yes, i know it isn't)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256316 << i saw a working 'osprey' for the first time a few weeks ago. my first thought was 'wish i weren't stuck in traffic under that thing' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 00:42:33; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well nothing could be worse than osprey
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform define 'working'
asciilifeform: flying low enough to be identified for what it is; did not fall down (at least not where i could see it...)
asciilifeform: though iirc the bug in these things typically shows itself when the propellers flip
asciilifeform: http://www.aviastar.org/foto/bvertol_osprey_1.jpg << it
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0pdaU )
asciilifeform: http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/bellboeing_v_22_osprey.jpg << turning
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0pdb5 )
asciilifeform: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2011/11/20/us/SUB-JP-OSPREY/SUB-JP-OSPREY-articleLarge.jpg << turned.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0pdb9 )
asciilifeform: http://gizmodo.com/the-president-gets-a-personal-osprey-hes-not-allowed-t-1108783801 << relevant, lulzy
assbot: The President Gets a Personal Osprey He's Not Allowed to Use ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0pg6M )
asciilifeform: 'The aircraft is manned by a crew of four—pilot, copilot and two flight engineers—and can carry as many as 32 troops or 20,000 pounds of cargo. Or, in the case of the President's jaunt to Martha's Vineyard last Saturday, a contingent of White House staffers, journalists, and Bo, the president's pooch. But not the president himself. No way, he's not allowed anywhere near this thing.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34466 @ 0.00070936 = 24.4488 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'But while they're definitely (relatively) safer than the early versions, the Osprey is still not safe enough to entrust with the leader of the free world's life. As such, the presidential Osprey has not yet been designated a "white top," meaning President Obama is not allowed on board, but is currently undergoing further reliability testing. There's no word on when that will be completed, so for now, it will serve as a $67 mi
asciilifeform: llion pet carrier.'
trinque: The situation wasn't helped any when the program's senior officer, Lt. Col. Odin Lieberman, was relieved of command after an internal investigation discovered that he had instructed his team to falsify records to make the Osprey look safer than they actually were. << heh, he expected that this wouldn't become apparent?
asciilifeform: this at least begins to explain where that machine was going.
asciilifeform: i did not expect to see it from a traffic jam below d.c.
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/LyJX520Sx2ctqo1b0Xxx6cCT_500.jpg << native tsa.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUlra9 )
asciilifeform: lol is that gavin ?!
mircea_popescu: his younger, better hung brothar.
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/wpb4YsvWL2bhteoknr0erUnj_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUlHFS )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0007044 = 11.9044 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ^^ ????
asciilifeform: was this dropped over vietnam or where
mircea_popescu: nah, short circulation west coast
asciilifeform: lulzy
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1256166 << even if you did, the point i was trying to make is that we have right now this risky situation where running a proper honest node actually costs serious dough, and it is not clear that this cost can ever be recoverable ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 22:45:57; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes well i have nobody with an axe to ship there rightnao
mircea_popescu: dubious if recoverable.
mircea_popescu: myeah
asciilifeform: it is quite conceivable that a node can only be run for the abstract imperial glory of something else, something very lucrative
asciilifeform: and it is not clear to me that there is enough of this to go around
asciilifeform: (in the sense of supporting a healthy network)
asciilifeform: and this is without any megablox idiocy !
asciilifeform: old-fashioned proper bitcoin.
asciilifeform: so what we have going is something like this, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255291 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 13:58:47; mircea_popescu: here's what i propose : paul graham eat 500 calories for every 1k calories he expends.
asciilifeform: call it an energy leak, in the sense of 'memory leak.'
asciilifeform: in the sense that the folks paying for it are not getting anything like their money's worth. and yes, this is true for many activities, from fixing old cars to raising children;
asciilifeform: but they work so long as they fit within 'hobbyist' budget, and the results pass some minimal bar
asciilifeform: running an honest public node is expensive. far more than i realized. and will be getting more so.
asciilifeform: as attacks of every conceivable kind ramp up.
asciilifeform: mains cables will (are!) be mysteriously yanked; fiber - cut
asciilifeform: contracts terminated on technicalities
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: plus many, many 'cosmic rays'.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2014#778143 << see thread. turns out, a server is a fortress... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 14:09:33; mircea_popescu: all the other atms in the world are inside an invisible fortress.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2014#777630 << start of thread ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 03:06:22; mircea_popescu: specifically : an atm requires a fortress. we have not yet built the fortress. when we do, you will know we have, because i will kidnap a number of "world leaders" wives and daughters to be publicly raped there as to make the fucking point that in fact it IS a fortress.
trinque: heh, brave new books.
trinque: that's austin
trinque: alex jones central, it is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14753 @ 0.00070245 = 10.3632 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: and there are people working on making running a node 10,000+ times more expensive....
asciilifeform: (and will try to make it look cheaper by selective vandalism of folks who do not go along. algo used by all states at all times.)
asciilifeform: it is telling that, of my three therealbitcoin nodes, the only one which has not suffered an unexplained malfunction of any kind is the one which is where i can personally see it !!
asciilifeform: (zoolag)
asciilifeform: has never fallen behind, spontaneously, by so much as one block (the one notable exception was the day when the db locks thing wedged ~every~ honest node)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39650 @ 0.00069444 = 27.5345 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform atm node seems more akin to soda fountain
mircea_popescu: you run that in your teenage hoisiery shop because that's what the teenage hussies want.
mircea_popescu also wants to introduce by reference the discussion of "for honor" and slavegirks
mircea_popescu: but in any case : it's not clear we can't stick it in pogo. so... there is that.
mircea_popescu: of course, the people trying to get that to work (davout, jurov, etc) aren't getting that much support yet.
mircea_popescu: but i reckon the whole shebang "here, do this this this" list is getting closer.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the principal item missing is a sane txpool
mircea_popescu: yes.
asciilifeform: everything else is purely a matter of rebuilding as per my original recipe, but rotorized.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4234 @ 0.00070936 = 3.0034 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: now that libc is shot in the head, it builds ~and~ runs.
asciilifeform: but the 'infinite pile of tx until fills ram' is a no-go;
asciilifeform: and the store-block-index-in-ram-at-all-times is also a no-go.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << as displayed here.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmuPH )
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/referenced_b2510447257f2b623fcf30cc4f0413a23f515b60.png << see this.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmD5t )
asciilifeform: ~300 byte per block.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me, at this juncture, that a network consisting ~largely of~ items like pogos could function under sustained load
mircea_popescu: define network, function and load.
asciilifeform: network - bitcoin. function - propagate blocks, transactions, as traditionally expected. load - sustained attack from every usg orc on the fucking planet, plus legitimate users.
mircea_popescu: network in terms of nodecount, function in terms of maximal packet loss you admit and load in terms of saturation.
mircea_popescu: you know, like the internet.,
asciilifeform: saturation presumably 100%
mircea_popescu: not like this shiot's either novel or uncalculable.
asciilifeform: there is also the part where a half-arsed node, when feeding a miner, leads to orphaning and going broke
asciilifeform: (not today, when there is 25btc 'on the sidewalk' - but tomorrow, when there is not)
mircea_popescu: im seriously not concerned. the thing designed, if implemented, will be fine. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/LyJX520Sx23v8c038OjmriTH_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKnpiY )
asciilifeform: ew
asciilifeform: what's next, copro?
mircea_popescu: no penis!
asciilifeform: whole thing is a penis.
asciilifeform: like geoduck.
mircea_popescu: haha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256413 << therein lies the boojum. implemented by whom? when ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 02:29:22; mircea_popescu: im seriously not concerned. the thing designed, if implemented, will be fine.
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/jH8nCgt1J23ag8jgoPZeDjoT_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKnC5D )
mircea_popescu: dun worry so much bout that part. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'freedom bricks' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: gold.
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/3HWhJ1T6f22zl4wwG4IGMNLw_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKnIu9 )
mircea_popescu: see below for kit.
asciilifeform: gotta love the key lock
mircea_popescu: aha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00070936 = 11.1724 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256426 << why, are you gonna do it? because thus far every single bit that involved serious surgery on therealbitcoin just sorta sat there until i did it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 02:32:10; mircea_popescu: dun worry so much bout that part.
asciilifeform: i would ~like~ for this to change, yes
asciilifeform: this thing ~will~ have to work without my pushing it, if only after i am shot - which, for all i know, could be scheduled for monday
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41832 @ 0.00070071 = 29.3121 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25868 @ 0.00069249 = 17.9133 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel so've you asked her out yet?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3 ☟︎
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZlMf )
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: no comment & looks like fun.
ben_vulpes: don't be chewing tacks over there.
ben_vulpes: previously, lady v put up crushed foam panels on the ceiling, and i installed the seam and crown molding: http://imgur.com/yevDNKh
assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LCZuPN )
ben_vulpes: i'd be irate about all of this value evaporating as soon as i move out of this place, but it's saving me the cost of relocating to a larger apartment next year and the associated switching costs.
ben_vulpes: plus, fun projects with the babe!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33770 @ 0.00069198 = 23.3682 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: !up mikaeldice
danielpbarron: ;;seen mikaeldice
gribble: mikaeldice was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 39 weeks, 3 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mikaeldice> I reinstalled Windows as a dual boot after a couple years of solely Debian so I could play a game.. It felt dirty.
mikaeldice: hey
mikaeldice: I'm on Fedora now..
mikaeldice: see you in 39 weeks :P
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256443 << which shelf does dog go in ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 04:03:54; *: ben_vulpes is having a blast nesting with the girl. today, we finished scaffolding the builtin to house the dog and spawngear: http://imgur.com/Z9iBUv3
asciilifeform: gonna guess, the oblong one in the right-hand bottom corner ?
ben_vulpes: bottom-right, actually.
ben_vulpes: left
ben_vulpes: leftleftleft
asciilifeform: could fit two long, narrow dogs on the top.
ben_vulpes: or children
asciilifeform: children go in the middle niches, it looks like
asciilifeform: the elder, on the left, younger - right.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, dulap now behind by 'only' 32 blocks.
ben_vulpes: this guy
ben_vulpes: telling me how to put my own furniture designs to use
asciilifeform: hey dunt look at me, if that were me i'd be filling it up with scrap metal.
asciilifeform had something not entirely unlike this shelf in old flat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31457 @ 0.0007004 = 22.0325 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: either scrap, or piles of laserprint so tall and old that the toner unstuck and transferred to adjacent page randomly
asciilifeform would like to learn, before dies, precisely why this happens and what determines how long it takes and where it comes off
asciilifeform also traditionally counts printed circuit boards which are prolly considered by normal people to be fit only for gold reclamation, as 'scrap metal'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1843 @ 0.00070702 = 1.303 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31927 @ 0.00070433 = 22.4871 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00070936 = 5.8168 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: yes yes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00069837 = 16.9355 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 59 seconds
punkman: https://twitter.com/notch this guy...
assbot: Markus Persson (@notch) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVdfeb )
ben_vulpes: what now?
punkman: @SnoopDogg: . @notch Cheer up homeboy! Im gonna have you by tha Doggy Den and we can smoke sum of that sticky n build sum new shit! Uhearme!!!
pete_dushenski: "The old notch.net domain was hosted on an amazon instance I managed myself. It was set up many many years ago, and I was very lazy about doing security or maintenance updates to it. A couple of weeks ago, it went down. I tried to log in, but my security credentials were no longer valid, so I assume it got hacked. Weirdly, the network logs showed very little data coming in or out after it went down, so it doesn
pete_dushenski: ’t seem like it got used as part of a botnet or as a proxy server. This new version is hosted on wordpress.com where I don’t have to worry about anything other than the content. Nice. I like this." << from persson's personal homepage
mircea_popescu: one more idiot, give or take
pete_dushenski: sorta graham level, for whatever that's worth
pete_dushenski: couple $bn in the bank, brain left to rot
pete_dushenski: granting that even making a digital lego is some sort of productive use of one's brain
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00070935 = 3.7248 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17984 @ 0.0007103 = 12.774 BTC [+] {4}
punkman: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/bmw-all-models-electric-within-decade-20150629-00597
assbot: BMW: All Models Electric Within Decade - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1EsUU77 )
mircea_popescu: "no further need for cars"
mircea_popescu: "have a coffee grinder instead"
punkman: or a broomstick
pete_dushenski: 'self-driving coffee-flavoured broomstick'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00070099 = 28.32 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00071099 = 27.7642 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32774 @ 0.00070666 = 23.1601 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12112 @ 0.0007116 = 8.6189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18037 @ 0.00071584 = 12.9116 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jul/23/nick-littlehales-the-man-who-taught-cristiano-ronaldo-how-to-sleep << coaches for training, eating, sport, why not sleeping ?
assbot: Nick Littlehales: the man who showed Cristiano Ronaldo how to sleep | Russell Jackson | Football | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEmZIB )
pete_dushenski: "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: it's like, why join the band ?
pete_dushenski: "The number of millionaires in the UK has shot up by 41% over the past five years, with one in 65 adults now classed as having a seven-figure fortune thanks to booming house prices and stock market gains." << y'all brits are rich, innit !
pete_dushenski: please to now accept more syrian refugees, pay higher taxes, etc.
pete_dushenski: "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: ^bwahaha. lest you think all the wealth is illusory !
pete_dushenski: omg that's priceless
pete_dushenski: "it's not just all the printing of hollow paper promises that the boe and the fed have been indulging in for the past near-decade, it's once-in-a-lifetime strikes of lighting ! like finding out you have a long-lost rich uncle."
pete_dushenski: "we measured it !"
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00070098 = 2.9441 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00069892 = 9.4354 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00069435 = 12.9843 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78139 @ 0.00068985 = 53.9042 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00070799 = 16.1422 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00071121 = 2.5248 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15437 @ 0.00069141 = 10.6733 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "Two interesting comments from Hulk Hogan -- he's NOT mad with the WWE for cutting ties with him over the N-word ... and says he wants to make America great again, by running with Donald Trump!!!!"
pete_dushenski: http://qntra.net/2015/06/hulk-hogan-puts-dentons-control-of-gawker-media-on-life-support/ << obligatory hulk reference
assbot: Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPfxOW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00070698 = 26.2643 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00070869 = 18.107 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims wild animals to lean latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: *learn
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table. ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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punkman: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122441/corn-wars
assbot: Corn Wars | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1fPmHm7 )
punkman: asciilifeform: do nodes added with -connect get disconnected?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16207 @ 0.00069262 = 11.2253 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: punkman: yes
asciilifeform: punkman: and, iirc, using 'connect' disables external listening and renders the thing useless as a public node
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0006917 = 26.25 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right? ☟︎
asciilifeform: punkman: not only.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00071176 = 19.7869 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: "An environmental scientist working for a Canadian government agency has been suspended and will be investigated for recording a protest song about the prime minister, Stephen Harper" << dole-guzzler shocked to discover that dole... can end.
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei50lM6ab1c << said 'protest song'. full of blindingly smug and/or visibly slow-witted church-goers
assbot: Harperman, a Protest Song - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EtPMj5 )
pete_dushenski: in other news, "Singer Chrissie Hynde has been criticised for saying it can be a woman’s fault if she is raped. The Pretenders star, 63, said she blamed herself for being forced to perform sexual acts under the threat of violence."
pete_dushenski: “Technically speaking, however you want to look at it, this was all my doing and I take full responsibility. You can’t f*** about with people, especially people who wear ‘I Heart Rape’ and ‘On Your Knees’ badges ... those motorcycle gangs, that’s what they do. You can’t paint yourself into a corner and then say whose brush is this? You have to take responsibility. I mean, I was naive.”
pete_dushenski: “If you’re wearing something that says ‘Come and f*** me’, you’d better be good on your feet ... I don’t think I’m saying anything controversial am I?”
pete_dushenski: "You know, if you don’t want to entice a rapist, don’t wear high heels so you can’t run from him."
pete_dushenski: !rated trinque
assbot: You have not rated trinque.
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pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.trinque.2:2a05a9591580e8da5d9512c0d3935dbc0a2d20cf70f9db69be5e35d205e89ac1
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for trinque with note: maker and maintainer of deedbot- in #b-a. helpful fellow.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no idea why the thing would disconnect for any reason other than what we discussed through the pool weighing
mircea_popescu: it should be fixed so it never disconnects in general.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256510 << everyone sane including myself sleeps alone. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 09:47:34; pete_dushenski: "In his ideal scenario, Littlehales says athletes wouldn’t be banned from having sex before big games (“absolute crap”) but most definitely sleep solo, with partners leaving for a separate room once it’s time to get 40 winks." << whoa whoa whoa, why play pro sports if you're sleeping solo ?
mircea_popescu: it is the #1 thing you can do for your own well being.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.0006923 = 33.5073 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256514 << heh, lottery created' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 09:55:08; pete_dushenski: "It is not just property ownership that is creating more UK millionaires. While the TV game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? was axed in the UK in 2014, the National Lottery says it has created more than 3,900 individual millionaires since 1994.
mircea_popescu: millionaires.
mircea_popescu: how about "the incredible decay of the pound sterling, currently worth about 1/9000 of a pound sterling, has "Created" fictitious "millionaires" worth a thousand guineeas each. not PER Y
mircea_popescu: EAR. worth nothing per year because the economy's dead."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-08-2015#1256545 << "ddos protection" being used so liberally to mask specifically nsa-ian idiocy strengthens my suspicion that "ddos" does not merely exist, but is in fact a coopted technologee. which is why fucking automattic ACTUASLLY PUTS IT IN DELIBERATELY. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 16:22:18; punkman: asciilifeform: it's the DoS protection right?
mircea_popescu: assholes.
trinque: !up yamaka
trinque: yamaka: your client is leaking your IP
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what in this case is 'coopted' ? even a tree stump can see that the buggers love to ddos
mircea_popescu: the ddos sources don't simply exist, like rocks. they were put there, like roads.
asciilifeform: no shit
mircea_popescu: not only is this not directly obvious,
mircea_popescu: you may find nobody else agrees outside of b-a.
asciilifeform: for extra clarity: 'ddos sources' as in senders of the packets, or what is meant is 'ddos holes' ?
asciilifeform: as in, orifices for the cock
mircea_popescu: the senders.
mircea_popescu: automattic PUT ONE IN deliberately and has systematically refused to take it out for ~10 years now.
asciilifeform: waitasec what is automattic ?
asciilifeform: ;;google automattic
gribble: Automattic: <https://automattic.com/>; Work With Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/work-with-us/>; About Us — Automattic: <https://automattic.com/about/>
mircea_popescu: but i suspect the makers of fucking TV boxes were mandated to put the source in
mircea_popescu: didn't just carelessly left it in
mircea_popescu: HAD TO put it in
mircea_popescu: which is why and how everyone is "Careless" in the same exact manner.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the makers of wordpress.
asciilifeform: positions: '.... Happiness Engineer'
asciilifeform: l0l!
asciilifeform: this has got to be a joke
mircea_popescu: no. it is the redhat of blogs.
asciilifeform: dear satan.
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform changes gas mask filter
mircea_popescu: lemme sauce you.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mika-epstein-aka-ipstenu-is-a-thoroughly-clueless-poser/
assbot: Mika Epstein aka Ipstenu is a thoroughly clueless poser on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDX6Iv )
asciilifeform: that'd be strictly www ddosen, rather than bitcoin etc., no ?
mircea_popescu: i'm sorta half-surprised they're not trying to sue me for using "an unauthorised wordpress fork" which doesn't have all the fucking holes.
mircea_popescu: perhaps not yet on the grounds that why give the hand away, i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still same principle, and as historical accident, where i happened to notice the strange.
asciilifeform: 'wordpress' is famously a steaming pile of shit though
mircea_popescu: unlike what ?
asciilifeform: i don't personally know ~anyone~ who uses the 'official' version
mircea_popescu: what ISNT a famous pile of shit ?
asciilifeform: there are obscure piles of shit
mircea_popescu: NAT routers ? ntp servers ? dns servers ? what
asciilifeform: like 'diff'
mircea_popescu: yes, you wouldn't. i also don't know anyone who shops at hot topic. or at kfc.
mircea_popescu: somehow a bunch of blogger blogers keep popping up tho.
asciilifeform: i've seen this called 'bush effect', after the re-election of bush II in '04. a crowd of people whined re: 'how did he win, i don't know anyone who voted for him'
trinque: "here is everywhere" I think applies.
trinque: of course social groups would self-select, or how are they a group?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00069663 = 9.5438 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform meanwhile there's a new bojum
mircea_popescu: ima be connecting to zoolag and passing you tx aa956edc2dd94722b5794eaf4e987ebdc8189d2e4c6334c433d7514a28d6b3ab
mircea_popescu: see if you figure out wtf is wrong with it because i can't see it
asciilifeform: 1sec..
asciilifeform: fire.
mircea_popescu: no rush it'll be ongoing for a while.
mircea_popescu: but in summary it's an apparently valid tx that lingered in "unconfirmed, broadcast through 200 nodes" sort of state for half a day, bitcoin.info as the standard bearer of the enemy DOESNT list it, either in the mempool or in the rejected txn list, in spite of having received it nx, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not seeing any sign of it in the log...
mircea_popescu: give this an hour we talk after.
asciilifeform: very well.
asciilifeform: i don't suppose there is anything unusual about this tx ?
mircea_popescu: you tell me!
mircea_popescu: the very notion of "something unusual about txn" is smack drab in the conflict zone. wtf does this even mean.
asciilifeform: let's say it straddled a former fork boundary
mircea_popescu: i dun think so.
asciilifeform: tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log | grep 28d6b3ab
asciilifeform: ......
asciilifeform: [the sound of silence]
mircea_popescu: lol. if you're using the stock scheme of logs, they dump like gpg dumps. only a portion
mircea_popescu: and iirc they cut from the front, too
mircea_popescu: anyway, appreciate that i'm having a node respun with a -connect to you, so may take a little.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9671 @ 0.00069141 = 6.6866 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform puts 'tx dumper' on list of necessaries
asciilifeform notices that it was already long there
jurov: maybe they started censoring eulora-related-txen , too
jurov: but how did they figured this is one, i have nfi
asciilifeform: unsigned plaintext 'asks for rape' - in the abstract
asciilifeform: only a question of who and when.
asciilifeform: i have noted this before.
mircea_popescu: jurov i dunno, hanbot complained about her tx not going through, i look at the node she's talking to, it's there, i look at the network, it's not there.
asciilifeform: for all i know, all 3 of my nodez are in mike hearn's ban list
asciilifeform: and this sufficed.
asciilifeform: xt nodes, even when running 'on dead squirrel in cardboard box under the bed', may well be enough as a 'neutron absorber'
asciilifeform: given the current topology of the network
mircea_popescu: which is why i made a special instance to talk to you specifically.
asciilifeform: neato.
mircea_popescu: as it turns out it's entirely possible we'll have to kick this into high gear, specifically because of the poisoning concern you discuss.
asciilifeform: i would be genuinely astonished if the enemy were not focusing his effort on precisely this kind of poison
mircea_popescu: jackshit it'll do, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: teh xt mempool wars of 2015 lol
mircea_popescu: ;;seen birdman
gribble: birdman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Birdman> im well
mircea_popescu: "But girl's bellies and apricots, Roach in a shaded stream, Horses, ducks in flight at dawn, All these are a dream."
mircea_popescu: orwell is officially the worst poet ever. apricots, seriously ?
asciilifeform: notice that he is not known as a poet, aha
mircea_popescu: dude, say cunts if you mean cunts. don't say fucking apricots when your ideas require you say cunt ffs.
asciilifeform: funnily the ru translation (which i was reading last night) is 10x better
mircea_popescu: quoth ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://flibusta.net/b/98554/read << in there somewhere.
assbot: Сборник рассказов, эссе (fb2) | Флибуста ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVE90Y )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzy, 'Герой трус и от книги воняет мочой.' >> review of '1984'
mircea_popescu: i dun see it
mircea_popescu: just his equally bad one with the italian soldier
asciilifeform: ('the hero is a coward and the book reeks of piss')
asciilifeform: yer right it only has the italian soldier
mircea_popescu: he's almost pointedly anti-gifted for poetry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://orwell.ru/library/essays/wiw/russian/r_wiw << here's that one
assbot: Джордж Оруэлл: Почему я пишу -- Перевод: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MWdBkM )
mircea_popescu: like a sort of reverse-hemingway in verse.
asciilifeform: grep for Священником я мог бы стать
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol were you testing my admittedly poor ru comprehension ?
asciilifeform: nah just brainphart
asciilifeform: sitting on multiple consoles, trying to wrap up 'v'
mircea_popescu: meh, Священник is not vicar.
asciilifeform: and, more importantly, крепыши are not 'little fat men'
mircea_popescu: then again hm. i guess there's no better to be hgad
asciilifeform: opposite!
mircea_popescu: ahahaha yeah
mircea_popescu: he didn't say fucking stout
mircea_popescu: Девичий стан, и абрикос, dude gtfo
mircea_popescu: how is this better ?
asciilifeform: it isn't
mircea_popescu: it's worse. apricot doesn't even mean cunt in russian
mircea_popescu: they decided, iirc, on the plum
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mircea_popescu: perhaps on account of having either larger plums or smaller mounds.
mats: http://dflund.se/~john_e/fr_gems.html
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/McKinley_Prosperity.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KVESPI )
asciilifeform: mats: one day somebody might collect a set of these which don't date to the 486
mats: will you be that hero
asciilifeform: prolly not
asciilifeform: just pointing out that these are pathetically suboptimal on x64
asciilifeform: which has things like cmov
mats: yep
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00068623 = 12.7639 BTC [-]
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/30/us-usa-election-christie-idUSKCN0QZ0TA20150830 << Mass-surveillance is only for the (ever-expanding category of) bad guys, don't ya know?
assbot: Christie says criticism of FedEx-like immigrant tracking is 'ridiculous'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmKK9S )
trinque: seems they're going to get decent milage out of this "illegal immigrants" thing
mircea_popescu: usg is running with this "let's make it so only an idiot would ever come to us" thing huh
asciilifeform: while bezzleprinter still works, they can require 'donation' of 'extra' organs on entry and folks will come
mircea_popescu: "He maintains that 40 percent of illegal immigrants with visas overstay their visits."
mircea_popescu: wut ?! what's the other 60% do then ?!
asciilifeform: waiwut
asciilifeform: what's an illegal immigrant with a non-overstayed visa ?
mircea_popescu: eh fuck this shit. "news".
mircea_popescu: much more instructive to read spam emails than "news"
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trinque: Christie's a fat Jersey moron without question. My observation is that where the "terrorism" tactic does not work, the "illegals are why you're poor" one will fill in nicely. The next obvious step is to combine them.
trinque: someone will cross the southern border and go for a high score, or who knows what.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38450 @ 0.00069193 = 26.6047 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: doubt it very much
mircea_popescu: mexicans are going north to get exactly out of the way of mexican men.
mircea_popescu: the men themselves are readily finding employment with the cartels.
mats: the rfc defining pgp packets makes my brain hurt
asciilifeform: mats: welcome to my hell
mats: a moment of solidarity
mats: i also have yet to decide how to solve the np-complete problems in the spec
asciilifeform: !b 1 ✂︎
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MVJ7KQ.txt )
asciilifeform: l0l
mats: :<
mats: https://soundcloud.com/sjowgren/seventeen
assbot: seventeen by sjowgren | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq2Wmo )
trinque: mircea_popescu: but what does the real motivation of mexicans entering the US have to do with the propaganda value of the fact that they are?
trinque: what I see is a gradual attempt to normalize location tracking of everyone; maybe I'm wrong.
mircea_popescu: im sure usg would love nothing more than everyone carrying a mandatory ipad
mats: http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015
assbot: U.S. Smartphone Use in 2015 | Pew Research Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq39FX )
mircea_popescu: jus' sayin', the sort of mexicans coming into the us are filtered for worthlessness.
mircea_popescu: not liable to do anything much.
trinque: certainly
mircea_popescu: so i wrote sometime somewhere a license which basically said "it is illegal to use this software". anyone recall where ?
trinque: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/ << this?
assbot: A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq3o47 )
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: ty!
trinque: np
mircea_popescu notices he forgot to add lecitin to the shopping list.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/#selection-133.0-133.289
assbot: A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hq4zAg )
mircea_popescu: ahhh
mircea_popescu: the upside of bad memory. i enjoy reading trilema as much as anyone
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36527 @ 0.00069399 = 25.3494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00068932 = 1.1029 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00068932 = 7.2034 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00069016 = 3.5198 BTC [+]
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oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/trousersnake/
assbot: Trouser snake ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVWf2 )
mats: https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/smf4u/reverser_wanting_to_develop_mathematically/c4fa6yl
assbot: rolfr comments on Reverser wanting to develop mathematically ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQVYn0 )
asciilifeform: mats: i had a good number of the books listed in the link, in school
asciilifeform: mats: sipser and 'handbook of crypto' (crc? he doesn't say which) - i still have.
asciilifeform: and papadimitriou
trinque: latest item collected on the quest for radio-passive living, foxtrotgps
asciilifeform: for some reason he doesn't mention barendregt
trinque: anyone know a better one? navit had serious stink, passed on it
asciilifeform: mats: re: compiler construction, i prefer aho's 'dragon book' to appel
asciilifeform: i probably could go on and on but doubt that anybody gives a fuck.
mats: i know approximately nothing about maths, so a list like this is helpful to me
asciilifeform: mats: which maths you need, is something no one can answer for you. it depends heavily on what it is you are trying to think about.
asciilifeform: if you're doing typical reversing work, you can mostly get by with a firm grasp of kindergarten arithmetic.
asciilifeform: (and a pinch of complexity theory)
asciilifeform: also helps if you know what automata are
mats: noted