assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 20:01:39; ascii_field: for what it's worth, all the blocks i got from mircea_popescu are successfully eaten by my 0.5.4
trinque: BingoBoingo: bahaha fart rape
mod6: i have 3 full-sync'd chains from between January and March, all have the same blk0001.dat hash: sha256sum blk0001.dat \ 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat
☟︎ trinque: BingoBoingo: I thought it was gonna be somebody being face-sat
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform has the same ill feeling an astronomer might have were 'seti' signal to appear << We've outgrown everything but Z80+ECC and somehow that is too slow
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 19:12:49; ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works
phf: is it possibly non-determenism from a dozen or so places where size_t is read into int?
phf: right, eatblock/dumpblock lets you construct any arbitrary correct chain, block by block, including the known blockchain, in a fully deterministic way. seem like important building blocks of proper engineering.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00046004 = 13.3642 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo would really like box powered by 3GHz Z80 with ecc and 64 bit address space bolted on
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Exactly. That is one beautiful machine fulfilling its destiny to do REAL work. Not this pansy shit 'Murican pickup trucks do.
decimation: asciilifeform: do you have the complete blockdump file?
decimation: pity, that's a big too large for a cutout dropbox account
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 00:28:50; asciilifeform: claims 188529 blocks
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 20:26:24; ascii_field: these aren't bdb files!
decimation: what does he use the database for then? faster lookup?
decimation: 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat
decimation: 796f65be10ef2e5fc27b97b09f312c9f8ddd7d1c3ab0f27f356a5b1dbf5a8963 blk0002.dat
decimation: these were made with your thermonuke patch
mod6: all three of my chains from Jan-Mar 2015 have: 796f65be10ef2e5fc27b97b09f312c9f8ddd7d1c3ab0f27f356a5b1dbf5a8963 blk0002.dat
decimation: 2097361271 blk0001.dat 2097295438 blk0002.dat
mod6: 104fca0e11fa866172414852b6e6ead095926eb7a283dc3169420a17e6b87cfb blk0003.dat
mod6: 0856eedd40c7f5a1d78aec7480dc9861c2e0354aae75b72613aaffcf606a99ef blk0004.dat
mod6: lol, im now doing 5-16 on all three chains at the same time: 02:42:27 up 2 days, 3:32, 5 users, load average: 2.88, 1.48, 0.71
mod6: 93e2d9ee02bf3fdd68d7809e353cec3bca93e54d3c382a286093ac6666c21ce3 blk0005.dat
mod6: 853a817eb6b644d3a75d0954c723f23e0d23fa6ec143e3cdc23a774c59c710ad blk0006.dat
mod6: e287f88803660c5f9fd99e9cdfcc5d7e4c38da953652efbbd2382f64441dba7c blk0007.dat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00045477 = 16.781 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: yeah, i don't have any of those.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00045013 = 3.2409 BTC [-]
mod6: mine were sync'd with some pre-v0.5.3.1-RELEASE [ v0.5.3 + some patches ], sync'd the old way from irc.
decimation: I'm afraid it's gonna take going over with a fine-tooth comb
mod6: decimation: yours match mine, or mp's lis?
decimation: gonna have to 'reingest' them to sort them out
mod6: huh, now i have one chain that has 2 that match and one that differs: f7ab989febce649e49f8373f1c5a5fbd44008dd21eaf16ce0d1b73e1070421f0 blk0008.dat && b1d0da3ff6b2b2d6da096f06cf7359ca98e08490ab61202f94468587f51aaee5 blk0008.dat
☟︎ decimation: no, but you could antimate a node, peer with it, force it to shit out
mod6: and all 3 of my blk0009.dat's do not match
decimation: yeah if it's the last file, it's incomplete
mod6: these were fully sync'd up to ~320`000 blocks or so. they were shutdown after full sync was achieved. each goes upto like blk0017.dat
mod6: fa97f9f51bd130758910563ad7976014736b8b8ec021ed9f5dbc3c4b87d3703a blk0009.dat | 2f7acbd7b5603a845a5d380ffb6ff3be051ab8b192ae143b0916a07564d5cbc5 blk0009.dat | 1631edac873633135b9eb9b8214d6d2b30d708d00ec4dd1db6a9bf09f384551b blk0009.dat
mod6: on a fully sync'd node?
mod6: whats the full size of your blockchain? mine's like ... ~38Gb
mod6: 82397e804874de4709faa07515f6bedbeaa4b1cdc49846b96742bba925bad1cb blk0010.dat | d2bf09e41b6177d6f44a5b7983954c647ac2c983ac39af2e159261e8737f4662 blk0010.dat | baa5bbcdb388d707398d00de95df8d3c5d98d716842d1eea7ea51f3d4ed40695 blk0010.dat
mod6: seems to diverge for me starting with blk0008.dat
mod6: huh. yours dont match ours or mps
mod6: 18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | 18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | c39eeb00ee4489722f82f53667a71584aa571913c6c0116017682ed508e5adcd blk0011.dat
mod6: bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | 7da33b5bc03fcba571b854172938f000a9d5241757f3b186de93da34ddcb889f blk0012.dat
mod6: 35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 25def233a2fa1c177169c74789070dc08de127b8447c7ee0784a8735353a42f8 blk0013.dat
mod6: 0a7c6b1127af5f47afe3138eb206c736d8452256826d0c3e030c5cd8c289b6e6 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat
mod6: so one of them seems to be more screwed up than the others. but there were blocks like blk0009.dat & 10 where all were different.
mod6: one was done in january, one in february, and one in march.
mod6: january was pre SSL 1.0.1g
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00046595 = 5.2652 BTC [+]
mod6: yeah, totally agree.
mod6: im suprised they diverged that much.
mod6: i would have though with all the same version (pretty much) that they would have all been the same hashes.
mod6: glad I looked at that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64550 @ 0.00048971 = 31.6108 BTC [+] {3}
decimation: the question is, how do we make a portable tool to suck blocks from bitcoin nodes?
mod6: yah, there's asciilifeform's way, and there's that python thing
phf: fwiw dumpblock is expensive, because walks blockchain in order. a "dumpdb" that iterates over mapBlockIndex and does ReadFromDisk/<< for each block might be a reasonably fast way to split .db into separate block files
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41750 @ 0.00049034 = 20.4717 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Why do you call it "enemy fire" and why are you certain it is that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00049172 = 33.4861 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: midnightmagic: what do you think it means
assbot: Logged on 23-11-2014 05:22:35; kakobrekla: mircea_popescu no the question was did someone abuse the britneychain
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: I don't want certainty. I'm fine with wild speculation actually.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive.
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BingoBoingo: midnightmagic: God is sitting this one out, All we have is math.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They'll pull out another. They can invent new ones when they run out.
BingoBoingo: Indeed, all they wanted was to spam boner pills and invent people for FakeBook profiles
midnightmagic: well. be sure to post your 'wow' signal somewhere prominent when you find it.
decimation: and
http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects."
☟︎ decimation: "this time it's even more realizable!!"
decimation: they are going the magnetic bottles route
trinque: ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars
☟︎ trinque: I will be so sad if a fusion breakthrough happens in the USA for that reason...
trinque: << According to his biographer, Ellison sees death as “just another kind of corporate opponent he can outfox.” >>
trinque: culture of narcissists indeed
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, because nobody gives a fuck
decimation: 'they' have 'gotten away' with shit infrastructure for decades, why start now
decimation: "Mark Peterson, a spokesman for Wave Broadband, said an unspecified number of Sacramento-area customers were knocked offline by the latest attack. He characterized the Tuesday attack as "coordinated" and said the company was working with Level 3 and Zayo to restore service."
trinque: sci fi story idea: they claim to have invented the immortality treatment, is actually a procedure for implanting your mind control chip
trinque: probably already done 100 times
decimation: asciilifeform: let this be a wake up call, if you don't have your parachute ready...
trinque goes to beat deedbot with a wrench
trinque: it thinks its connected on its end
trinque: might be a fun common lisp weekend project to redo it in that
trinque: I'm starting to dislike this golang bot
trinque: cazalla: there he is if ya need it ^
trinque: decimation: I've seen that not handled well too, but this time he was just sitting there as if connected
cazalla: tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much)
☟︎ decimation: cazalla: I recently bought a new house, and I'm trying to figure out what trees I have
decimation: I'm not sure if I have a walnut or mountain ash, for instance
decimation: as Jesus says, you will know a tree by its fruit
cazalla: i've been buying em online, was a suss about that but all of em have turned up fine so far
cazalla: decimation, walnut would be a bonus.. i want to get a few pine nut trees but can be up to 10 years before you get anything from it
decimation: yeah, I agree, would be nice. Apparently the former owners let a weedy russian olive tree grow too
trinque: speaking of which, the other weedy trees are legal here at midnight.
BingoBoingo: Just avoid the black walnuts, Their culture kills everything around them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52050 @ 0.00049302 = 25.6617 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59579 @ 0.00048228 = 28.7338 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: heck of a find, brownie!
ben_vulpes is unlikely to get dedicated testing time over the weekend
mats: that's a confusing construction
mats: i wondered if you had moved north
ben_vulpes: population flows aren't hard to predict in this neck of the woods
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this whole eatblock/dumpblock/compare hashes thing really is stellar
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeh our renegade pot law goes into effect
trinque: wont use the 10th amendment to piss in the NSA's cheerios, but we'll certainly use it for that!
BingoBoingo just back from pissing on the runt rosebush, could use the nitrogen
HeySteve: all good and your side, ben_vulpes?
ben_vulpes: alf sez he has a boojum in the blockchain
HeySteve: not that I've used their service but I've been reading about all the pushback Uber is getting around the world
HeySteve: SA can be added to the list, lots of protests against Uber here. was wondering if there's a way to decentralise it...
HeySteve: Christine Walters, Johburg’s mayoral committee member for transport: "The city would like a South African flavour of black economic empowerment with Uber." - this sort of brain damage has taken over pretty much everything here
mats: not everything can or should be decentralized
mats: that's brain damage all on its own
mats: driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip
☟︎ mats: deleted the app after i finished my free ride
HeySteve: but this is a case where it makes sense
HeySteve: so app that handles escrow of fare, oracle uses GPS to verify destination was reached within a certain time, that's it... right?
ben_vulpes: i want to be able to put 5 million down on a fleet of robot cars and wreck an industry or 5
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Fuck robot cars. I like pointing my deadly road machine where I like.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23619 @ 0.00046607 = 11.0081 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich
☟︎ ben_vulpes: stop burning all the fucking oil to get your dumb asses around!
ben_vulpes: i'm speshul tho. i'm cool and i get to drive my car as much as i want :P
BingoBoingo: Nah, insurance should be cheap. Getting insurance though should be hard through other means.
mats: you gonna decentralize vehicle inspections, background checks, accounting, driver recruitment, commercial insurance, too?
HeySteve: eh, sounds like a lot of unecessary paperwork to me
ben_vulpes: no, i'm just going to put everyone involved with the piloting of vehicles out of work
ben_vulpes: it's a hazard of the dude's occupation.
HeySteve: ok but the big picture here is it'll give all the regulatory types a fit
mats: and nobody will care after a dozen women disappear after their last known position was inside one of your cars
HeySteve: driver will get bad rep after first abduction, so doubt he'll make it to a dozen unless he changes nick and car
mats: oh right, we can decentralize the video feed too
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> it's a hazard of the dude's occupation. << No, it is a Hazzard, for a certain sort of Duke
ben_vulpes: i'm going to buy a bunch of goddamn trucks.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> embrace the surveillance state << I may or may not have around 2009 driven a VIP across county and or state lines because they did not want their travel recorded.
mats: am still amused by folks saying 'well it would be weird if uber wasn't spending tons to expand' after seeing term sheet
mats: like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry
☟︎ mats: would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table
BingoBoingo: <mats> would sure like to meet these folks at a poker table << Honestly I'd just like to meet them at a bar or the pony track jsut to cycle the games they bleed through, because these colors don't run
http://qntra.net/qntra.jpg BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> el confedejito << Indeed. Should have taken Mexico First
funkenstein_: BingoBoingo, something about that rabbit makes me think it is about to dunk on a regulation basket
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Not my rabbit, inquire with Chief edditoriador cazalla
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00047469 = 4.0823 BTC [+]
cazalla: BingoBoingo, perhaps Chef would be the appropriate word? :P
ben_vulpes: <mats> like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry << normal american stock ponzi in action
ben_vulpes: should be legal! let the chumps get chumped.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you probly want reagent if it isn't rotting in place
funkenstein_: blockchain getting hammered today, what is going on?
ben_vulpes: trinque: i haven't done clj->js in 5-10 months, so everything i know is probably stale
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah you can use reagent in this manner
trinque: wanted to know if the native thing would eat clojurescript, in case I end up having to use it
BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> like, ddosed << No, "Stress Tested" which means showing how great present anti-spam limit is because spammers
ben_vulpes: good god man there are so many layers in that thing
trinque: I know right? such complexity mountain
ben_vulpes: i'm starting to wonder of 'clojure all the things' isn't a poettering-smell
trinque: and in this case there's a browser underneath
trinque: so I'm not about to start preferring a particular flavor of shit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7981 @ 0.000467 = 3.7271 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: it just takes the "duct tape the jet fighter to the submarine" mindset to a revolting degree
ben_vulpes: and i say that as a guy who duct tapes jet fighters to submarines
ben_vulpes: (to deliver a pair of socks that nobody asked for)
trinque: hopefully this webassembly thing takes some pain out, but I'm sure it'll be a while on that
ben_vulpes: (because "'we'll iterate on it, instead of asking the engineers")
funkenstein_: well if TX channels do break, it is eventually the resonsibility of the spender to get the TX to a pool - using external channel
ben_vulpes: sharp lisper might be able to sell software in that space.
trinque: ben_vulpes: that's what I would like
trinque: I've looked around for a common lisp on llvm, as that's what farts into webasm
trinque: haven't found anything that looked like a good decision
trinque: but maybe one's called for now
ben_vulpes: di i still have to fuck with the dom in webasm?
trinque: ben_vulpes: as I understand it, this is like... emscripten bytecode
trinque: emscripten has an API to poke the DOM I think
trinque: dunno whether you also get a lower level graphics api
ben_vulpes: i'm uninterested in anything new that touches the dom
ben_vulpes: but i'm a reluctant frontend guy to begin with.
BingoBoingo: Seriously we need to storm an intel fab/fap and start pumping out Z80++/MIPS/and Scheme79 chips
ben_vulpes: we'll be writing swift and javascript's successors until linus goes insane while still at the helm
BingoBoingo: I dunno swift and javascript need successors
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Do you really need those things? Or do you merely want them?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform would love to sleep forever, i would like to program in lisp all day
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what is the casing of an oil well made of?
BingoBoingo: Steel. Because the well runs dry before it corrodes
ben_vulpes: 'tis a messy business. men lose hands, minds and lives.
ben_vulpes: hands to the keyboard, minds to VN, lives to the altar of technology.
BingoBoingo: Kill it with fire. We're already stuck with Boost
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3333 @ 0.00046535 = 1.551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2386 @ 0.00046535 = 1.1103 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00048352 = 8.099 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52000 @ 0.00049524 = 25.7525 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00049585 = 20.1315 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 Plox pm me when you have a spare 3 minutes, gracias.
BingoBoingo: shinohai jurov: Either of you find the set of electrum-server bitcoind patches? I'm running into some serious memory hole here.
shinohai: I haven't yet BingoBoingo but have the same issue :/
shinohai: I need to hop over to their chan and try to catch someone online I guess.
BingoBoingo: Fucking electrum-server github doesn't have any releases or milestones tagged
BingoBoingo: Even wikipedos save all historical states on those pages
shinohai: Lol I probably would have gave up on that project for a while if you hadn't mentioned it.
BingoBoingo this fall wants to be able to run a Foundation bitcoin release powering an electrum server with 200-500 connections.
BingoBoingo: The electrum server being private and serving IRL known persons
shinohai: That is what I was thinking, since you can connect only to a specific server
BingoBoingo: Would also be nice if I could derp some authentication onto the electrum service.
HeySteve: goddamn retards, did they factor in the energy cost of all the VISA execs driving to and from work, just for starters?
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Or Visa employing all those call center HamPlanets
HeySteve: I wonder how much energy it takes to produce a credit card
HeySteve: Krugman moaned about the energy costs too, not sure who came up with this nonsense originally but that was at least a year ago
BingoBoingo: HeySteve: It takes a fuckton of calories of oil to stamp a plastic card indeed
funkenstein_: ;;later tell copypaste please test coin-vote.com again, improved
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43034 @ 0.00049889 = 21.4692 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: "Bring it On" (2000) >> Best movie on USA racial relations in the 21st century
cazalla: ya really got a thing for those black chicks eh :P
BingoBoingo: Nah, narrative arc goes Whitey steals from Blackie, blackie gets angry but restrained by their better angels, blackie wins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56850 @ 0.00050725 = 28.8372 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: i remember the trailer but never saw the movie, tbh i would assume the white girls win
BingoBoingo: Watching atm following asciilifeform's earlier "Mean Girls" reccomendation
cazalla: and if memory serves, i think this is the 2nd or 3rd time you've mentioned the movie so is it a personal fav?
BingoBoingo just following reccomendations of his betters
BingoBoingo: Also, the rare black chicks that aren't HamPlanets
BingoBoingo: Also total shitlord movie: "Everyone eat half"
cazalla: BingoBoingo, ya got a veg garden going with tomatoes or anything this summer?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00050185 = 16.8622 BTC [-] {2}
mats: what an amazing piece of spin wrapped in love and grace
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00051346 = 27.2134 BTC [+]
shinohai: Oh ok, so the war drums are beating xD
cazalla: i usually get the "warning: display tx may not be current, u need to update your shit or other nodes need to" one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19626 @ 0.00049754 = 9.7647 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40500 @ 0.00048188 = 19.5161 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Greeks abroad have credit cards rejected amid confusion over capital controls | Money | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1GYYnYw )
jurov: BingoBoingo: I suffered some hdd crashes and such patches were not backed up.. try looking into old revisions of readme
mod6: thx for the update asciilifeform
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64630 @ 0.00050999 = 32.9607 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11704 @ 0.00048476 = 5.6736 BTC [-]
assbot: Teenage girl with toilet phobia dies from heart attack after going eight weeks without using loo - Telegraph ... (
http://bit.ly/1dxgiea )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00048071 = 12.835 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77700 @ 0.00047801 = 37.1414 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: "would frequently withhold her stools"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50600 @ 0.00047487 = 24.0284 BTC [-]
jurov: "No. We don't add configuration options for a thousand different things. This is really not something I want to see in systemd upstream."
jurov: gavin should ask him to add bitcoin-nxt to systemd. i'm sure reddit would be euphoric beyond measure on that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4596 @ 0.00048476 = 2.228 BTC [+]
jurov: incredible, these lennards contortions "but we are not vendor, systemd is not a product"
jurov: asciilifeform: iirc you wanted me to remove attachment size limit, what do you plan to send?
mod6: asciilifeform: nice charts. wd.
jurov: such "multimedia" stuff is better to publish on blog
☟︎ jurov: not much, but i'm behind on more important stuff, like less painful sigs tracking
mircea_popescu: ima go through two days of logs over here, pray for me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re teh seed : ima hopefully have it either working or a better idea of wtf is the problem in ~3-4 hoursd.
mircea_popescu: but so far : i put the chain on new server, moved over binary to work it (hey, should work right ?). it sort-of worked but with weird errors. had to have the thing recompiled, which lead to indicating the chain being broken. except the chain checked out, up to the last block. turns out human error on the splicing of the chain copy, so the ul had to be redone (not all , but the index is large)
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless...
☝︎☟︎ assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering c
jurov: asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "*BUT*: updating the C library is no trivial task and it is very easy to damage one's system. Therefore, persons who do not exactly know what to do, should consider using a binary distribution instead, when it becomes available."
mats: can drop /mobile/ from the url without issue
decimation: ^ to continue our 'useless do before while' thread
decimation: yeah, well except would you rather a 'link shortner' to the same?
mircea_popescu: decimation maybe im slow, but what about it ? a push a pop two moves an imul
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:10:56; mircea_popescu: i have my doubts.
decimation: mircea_popescu: that was Taleb's point too
decimation: I think it got cut off but the guy who thought 'green lumber' was literally boards painted green was an excellent trader
decimation: and it is what Fat Tony was talking about: oil traders 'all thought' that they knew about oil and the iraq war, whereas he saw that 'geopolitical analysis' and 'oil trade' isn't the 'same ting'
mircea_popescu: same principle yields "great politicians" who have no particular interest in what the flag looks like.
decimation: no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement'
☟︎ mats: BingoBoingo: ^ may be good for a scoop? not sure how new this information is
decimation: #define memcpy_check( d, s, n ) do { notnull_check( (d) ); if ( memcpy( (d), (s), (n)) != (d) ) { S2N_ERROR(S2N_ERR_MEMCPY); } } while(0)
decimation: asciilifeform: ^ can you explain why the do{} while(0) structure?
mats: decimation: your link loads 'hello world' in the editor -- toss it into pastein?
decimation: note that gcc creates exactly the same code for that structure
decimation: (compared to the non-do{}while(0) version)
decimation: intel's icc just puts in a useless extra check
mats: not sure either. am inquiring now.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 00:30:42; mike_c: mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :)
mats: decimation: man in #asm sez, normally one uses that in #define's due to limitations on preprocessor macro syntax
mats: "One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine."
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181418 << it's very funny to me, this. idiots are carefully averting other idiots' eyes from important shit. which is altogether a good thing, last fucking thing anyone wants is a deluge of "well meaning" idiots and other "enthusiasts". at least if the anyone in question stops and thinks about it for five minutes.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: this sort of service one couldn't pay for, but i doubt they providing it are aware. somehow it seems ot me it'd be pretty painful if they found out.
mircea_popescu: mind publishing the plaintext somewhere, say on your blog ? the turd is uselessly opaque, and for instance google doesn'ty know it
mats: gonna wait for BingoBoingo to wake up and get to it if you don't mind, i don't have a blog
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 01:55:29; decimation: "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire."
mircea_popescu: just like it doesn't pay to NOT murder the chick you just raped.
mircea_popescu: just like on and on. the stupidity of us law enforcement is ever more fantastic.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'.
☟︎ assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021438 B (Total: 425.93 B). Delta: -0.03 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
assbot: Some are born to endless night.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 02:52:19; asciilifeform: it is now also possible to elementarily ferret out certain kinds of leaks - e.g., does importing the same bastard block ten thousand times result in an increase in ram footprint ? if so, we have leak
jurov: in fact it did, but outside the book
jurov: ofc, report upcoming
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181511 << there's a fascination with precarity i suspect the culprit here. to illustrate hwat i mean, suppose we take the island of hawaii cca 1815. at this point, the indigent savages are going about naked doing their indigent savagery, which does not much include murdering each other, and pointedly no writing or so on.
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 03:33:43; asciilifeform: you can't even win 'underhanded c contest' with them. they're ~screamingly~ bad ideas.
mircea_popescu: we introduce to these people the practice and contest of yachting. this is hard work, in that you have to make a yacht, and then sail it.
mircea_popescu: some of the healty, sane boys will put a lot of work into it, and get good enough to compete with us.
mircea_popescu: some of the anal children will instead make a "different" version of yachthing, which will consist of, for instance, birling.
mircea_popescu: why ? because intelligence and ambition are unrelated, and the ambitiously ungifted have absolutely no incentive in recognizing their shortcoming. it's not that it's cheaper to pretend. it's that literally no other alternative is present.
mircea_popescu: and so... they "are crypto entusiasts" and "You can go much stronger than that" and so on.
mircea_popescu: all the avatars of orphaned boyhood, kids who grow up without a father have no idea what games to play are there.
mircea_popescu: but they also don't have a retroactive abortion mechanism (not that they aren't trying, look at any ghetto ever).
mircea_popescu: anyway, the broadly fraudulent proposition that "you can make yourself better through X Y Z" be they hard work or prayer or anything else fundamentally exists as a direly needed social control mechanism. because the social cost of the ambitiously ungifted is plainly immense, societies have universally and often independently constructed this method to deal with the afflicted.
mircea_popescu: now, it existed as a cleaner, more useful thing before being coopted for this purpose, of course. much like anything else that's now being used to make large population densities possible was a lot nicer before being shat on
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 04:05:21; asciilifeform: if kim jong un had balls, perhaps he'd buy it.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 04:41:25; asciilifeform: hard to picture a sorrier bunch of bitter schmucks, eagerly taking it up the arse from history's biggest and most obscene communist mega-empire (usg) to spite their little piss-ant one
assbot: Pressure in the United States Mounts to Ban Symbols of Rebellion Against Federal Government | Qntra ... (
http://bit.ly/1LV0ePi )
mircea_popescu: "The legislative act exempted pensions from all measures, with initial plans to open some bank branches on Wednesday and full pensions being paid out. " << dude, fuck this shit. since when can there be exceptions ?
mircea_popescu: "The temporary prohibition is imposed in accordance with Article 20 of the Regulation (EU) No 236/2012 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 14 March 2012 on short selling and certain aspects of credit default swaps (OJ L 86/1, 2012)." << riiight.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 05:34:04; decimation: which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group
mircea_popescu: He admitted that it would be difficult to collect the money from the Kentucky man.
mircea_popescu: “Just because I get a judgement, it’s a piece of paper—I can try to put a lien on his house, take his car, but he has various homestead exemptions,” he added, citing a law in Kentucky and elsewhere that exists to protect homeowners with deceased spouses who owe money to creditors.
mircea_popescu: creditor owed can not bother the debtor. meanwhile usg can go burn down his house for no reason.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00051312 = 8.133 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique Strauss-Kahn treatment"
mircea_popescu: aka, "Pork bellies go for ~$1 per pound, and so do you".
mircea_popescu: and so no, there's no serious question that the future of the us is anything else or anything different from the africa which it has for so long aimed to join.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the proposition that greece is a democracy is beyond laughable, and in general he takes a completely nonsequitur turn straight into nonsense midway.
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 15:45:52; assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 15:57:34; pete_dushenski: "Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead.
mircea_popescu: "we want a db of everyone's travels, what is this bs where people can get a cab in peace"
mircea_popescu: fucktards already. i'll use uber just after i go to work for a transvestite brothel in bang gook.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37470 @ 0.00051412 = 19.2641 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 16:23:50; ben_vulpes: yeah some cosleeping to begin with
assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 17:59:00; mod6: ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com
mircea_popescu: jurov needs to stop keyboard-fu-ing eulora and fix the list!11eleventy.
jurov: !gettrust assbot jautenim
Jautenim: worth noting that I used a subkey
jurov: Jautenim: try resending it
Jautenim: it is locked away in the fuhrerbunker
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 14:52:26; jurov: asciilifeform: limit raised to 64M (allows for ~ 50M attachments)
pete_dushenski: the 'Keep the symbol in government forever.' bit it too rich to be real.
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 14:49:54; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << the one thing left loose is that AFTER such, rms is not saying, to me or to anyone, "hey, drepper moved to the dark side, glibc was forked". the last thing you'd expect rms to be indicted for would be an inclination to "make things work" and fold for convenience rather than stand for principle. nevertheless...
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 15:06:32; decimation: no I bring up the do{stuff} while(0) because it's in amazon's new openssl 'replacement'
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you im getting plenty sick of this entire "everything around is a bug's nest"
mircea_popescu: i wasn't born a bug and how the fuck did i end up here ?!
mircea_popescu: wait, amazon is replacing shit by vacu-packing it in convenient, easy sized, value packs ?
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 15:28:43; mats: "One of these, UPE_application_form.doc, contained obfuscated malicious VBA script. When opened, this script ran automatically and pulled down a malicious file from IP address 185.31.209.145, thereby compromising [Kodric's] machine."
mircea_popescu: how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !?
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 15:35:54; assbot: Logged on 30-06-2015 02:32:10; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'.
mats: and he still has responsibilities after losing bidness 18,000 BTC and 650k+ USD
mats: what an organization
mircea_popescu: that's ok, they'll make it back OUT OF BEING LEGAL AND COMPLIANT!!11
mats: smells of inside job if i ever sniffed one
jurov: And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate".
☟︎ chetty: careful what you sniff
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 16:59:51; mircea_popescu: how does this shit even work ? can their word editor open net connections !?
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 17:02:55; jurov: And God spake unto them: "Go forth and regulate".
mircea_popescu: i really don't get this "put all the things in all the things" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: "oh you know, if your head needs to take a walk - now it can!"
pete_dushenski: "why have a symphony when you can have a one-man-band !"
jurov: and keep talking to google time servers
mircea_popescu: "i got a new girlfriend - she came with a built in boyfriend!"
mats: another goxxing is just a matter of time at this point
mats: everybody in the org using windows, wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38650 @ 0.00051466 = 19.8916 BTC [+]
mats: it shocks the mind that such people are trusted with anything
mircea_popescu: ascii_field : LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000000001160 height=362808 << confirmed. my chain is fine, delay and difficulties to date due to operator error.
mircea_popescu: the seeder is coming back online momentarily. for my own curiosity, re-start the syncing and compare the two sets you get.
mats: and on the subject of shock... i still can't get over the fact that Stuxnet happened
jurov: mats actually show me one person that is trusted with $$$ or lives and does *not* use windows
jurov: we need some role models here
jurov: that's not one person
mircea_popescu: i've last used windows xp a decade ago to play might and magic.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they figured out how to make the old games run in emulator.
jurov: my own fkn brother simlates megawatts of energy and kilotons of overheated steam using... excel.
jurov: tried ooo, rejected in disgust
jurov: and programming? why?
ascii_field: short burst, followed by long period of wtf
mircea_popescu: ok so last time there was a bona fide index/db problem, which made it be slow and painful.
mats: ooo hasn't been patched in years
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: all i can say is that i'm seeing ~exactly~ same pattern as before
jurov: tried to break in gdb?
mircea_popescu: i mean, there were occasional spikes in load in the previous incarnation, and i figured those may be it. but now it's smooth as butter.
ascii_field: jurov: try to make sense of any of it in gdb
kakobrekla: anyone saved that buttstamp doc, scribd removed it
mircea_popescu: which hate has apparently saved a bit of internet comedy from extinction.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: about 5 sec burst of data, followed by 40-infinity sec. of silence.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i can at this point guarantee to you it is not due to this machine.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pretty sure we are being fucked with downstream.
mircea_popescu: like doesn't want you gaming or whatever the nutty fuck ?
ascii_field: i'm sitting on a different, industrial isp, 100km away from home
ascii_field: and i've never had the slightest problem of the kind suggested above, with either
kakobrekla: i guess i can just put it on ba files server
mircea_popescu: go sustain yourselves on cocks, nameless "journalists".
punkman: "We have always been able, on the authority of the home secretary, to sign a warrant and intercept a phone call, a mobile phone call or other media communications, but the question we must ask ourselves is whether, as technology develops, we are content to leave a safe space"
punkman: "for terrorists to communicate with each other."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what is peculiar about this piece? reads like the same old crap
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00051466 = 10.4476 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nah, they had the "unsustainable" crapola on the back burner for a coupla years, as they were hoping they may actually elbow themselves into relevancy all through 2013-14
ascii_field: and as someone pointed out in last night's thread, let's compute the energy lost by failing to boil visa, mastercard execs into biodiesel
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: your node continues to emit bursts
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: put copy of same in another country, i'll compare.
ascii_field wonders if it was transmitting into a philippino buffer
decimation: ascii_field: shit, you are right, the amazon s2d is just a pretty TLS wrapper around the openssl crypto turd
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 00:25:18; mod6: i have 3 full-sync'd chains from between January and March, all have the same blk0001.dat hash: sha256sum blk0001.dat \ 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: iirc i explained this last night
ascii_field: (thing stows blocks in real time, never erases. see src)
mircea_popescu: i was doing like 5 things at once past coupla days and so ended up leaving all sorts of things unexplained fully.
decimation: mircea_popescu: bottom line, satoshi stores a binary blob of the blockchain AND also the bdb database
decimation: in theory, if orphans are removed, we should yeild the same blockchain turds
mircea_popescu: decimation well, it's so to speak "unstrained" if you're there, and "strained" if you hear about it later.
decimation: although it seems there might be disagreement between nodes in later blkxxxx.dat files
mircea_popescu: i think some implementations end up with different gaps between them or something.
decimation: ascii_field: one wonders why bezos didn't order the creation of his own rsa code
mircea_popescu: i am willing to take any odds on "he doesn't know this exists"
mircea_popescu: from experience, most people's understanding of cryptography is comensurate with your average 1700s peasants' understanding of contraception.
Jautenim: gah, I didn't check the new stator.sh
decimation: mircea_popescu: but seemingly everyone is a "crypto enthusiast" today.
jurov: Jautenim: problem was here, all three came through
mircea_popescu: anyway, it is interesting to point out that the first 2 gb blockindes fit a whopping 188k blocks
ascii_field: aha, that's about right for 10min, 1MB blocks
decimation: you know with these 'blockchain bitrates' I would be concerned about bitrot on disks
ascii_field: decimation: i'm pretty certain that i experienced a bitflip last night
decimation: actually, this is an excellent case for putting ecc in bitcoin
ascii_field: decimation: ecc cannot be implemented in software
decimation: or at least, in the disk-storage gismo
ascii_field: (to an extent, sure, but ~any bit~ can flip)
decimation: yeah, but I don't give a shit if a pogo's code bit flips, probably will crash
decimation: I do give a shit if none of the pogos have a coherent record of the blocks
mircea_popescu: there are many considerations here. for instance, as an exercise to the trainee : calculate the minimum storage space required to GUARANTEE bit=wise identity over X bytes of information.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that one's easy - infinity
decimation: in noisy channels there are no guarantees
ascii_field: best one can hope for is to get it an order of magnitude below 'asteroid hits your computer' probability
decimation: ascii_field: the problem: try finding reliable statistics on your consumer grade hard drives
mircea_popescu: because we live in the best possible world built on top of !!!science!!! so nothing is ever sold by any sort of spec.
ascii_field: blockchain really belongs on combo of mask and antifuse rom
ascii_field: (mask rom for known blocks from the past, antifuse for future ones)
ascii_field: both are immune to anything short of room-melting level of radiation
ascii_field: (on the former, no way to flip a bit - physically - at all; on the latter - need high current and moderately high voltage)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36489 @ 0.00051236 = 18.6955 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ascii_field nuts. i tell you ... the load is < .2 and has not peaked above 1 (this is on 8 cpu machine). there is nothing deferred or anthing suspicious in the logs. the eth card is doing fine. two dozen connections, routinely hitting 1mbps. etc.
ascii_field: i suspect we have come to a 'chinese' point
jurov: try to run it in ssh tunnel?
ascii_field: where the buggers use what they have - control over backbones - to annoy people
ascii_field: ssh tunnel is what i suggested earlier aha
decimation: ascii_field: it could also be just misconfigured routers
mircea_popescu: we know we can actually pass data between each other. what we wish to find out is what causes this behaviour and who to kill.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, but this server would not stand if that were the case.
jurov: if ssh works fine, you'd confirm that someone is doing packet inspection
decimation: if you are using a standard linux distro, it's well known that older kernels had buffer bloat/tcp tuning issues
ascii_field: mircea_popescu announced the box ip publicly
ascii_field: after that, red phone in derpistan dept. of derp rang
decimation: I have experienced buffer bloat issues using a centos router
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00051466 = 14.5649 BTC [+]
ascii_field: i'm gonna guess the entire link between anywhere i can go without taking a plane, and mircea_popescu's box, is burpy on account of packets hitting tape before they get to me
jurov: well, that would show in netstat output?
ascii_field: 'In addition, we have paid out approximately $250,000 to programmers hired to rebuild and improve our platform; paid approximately $250,000 (and counting) to the Stroz Friedberg team; and at least $150,000 more for various security reviews, and legal and financial advice. These out of pocket costs are continuing to accrue.'
ascii_field: 'In addition, to prevent future capital losses of this kind, we have contracted with a vendor to provide “multi-sig” technology to better protect our hot wallet (this particular transfer could not have happened today) and hired a skilled technology company, Xapo, to assist in managing our cold wallet.'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114900 @ 0.00051525 = 59.2022 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: ya. no word about executives' filthy laptops.
ascii_field: 'The gambit for this phishing attack was to offer Mr Merlak free
ascii_field: tickets to Punk Rock Holiday 2015. (Merlak is keen on punk rock and has played in a band.)'
decimation: or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key'
decimation: ascii_field: note the statistics from backblaze don't show the probability of single bit errors (undetected by the drive)
ascii_field: decimation: dram bitflips are far more interesting
ascii_field: whereas nobody serious gives a fuck re: disks
decimation: yeah, but we have jungle hardware, can't get ecc dram
ascii_field: because P(bit-n-disk0 + bit-n-disk1) flip ~= 0
decimation: right, but pogo class machine only has one drive
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: connects, disconnects, without transfer of anything
ascii_field: decimation: pogo is to have strength in numbers
decimation: yeah, but if each pawn is too week to carry weapon, have nothing
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: some 'cyber sek000r1ty!11!! firm'
mircea_popescu: so they spent 250k (abnd counting) so as to lose 4mn off a schmuck's home connection ?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> or why those filthy laptops can come anywhere near their 'hot wallet key' << this is easy enough to answer, if you think about it. and if you don't... if you let history be your guide.
mircea_popescu: i'd withdraw anything i had in that shithole by now, had i not withdrawn it long before, had i had anything in there in the first place.
decimation: what's amusing is that nobody gets it right, or apparently even tries
mircea_popescu: because yes, the point of life is to preserve that most valuable delusion - that "nobody could have foreseen..."
decimation: well, as far as bitcoin exchanges are concerned
mircea_popescu: essentially the adult version of "but daddy, all the kids in class got this question wrong too!"
mircea_popescu is trying to bootstrap the public interest in the matter into getting a networking education for himself.
jurov: and it shows all open connections, with kernel buffers
decimation: yeah, find ascii's connection and see what the sendQ value is
jurov: with general conclusion that if SendQ buffer is empty then it's application fault
decimation: assuming that this is the last machine that touches it before it goes to your isp
jurov: otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever)
decimation: the stereotypical 'buffer bloat' problem is that you find packets become extremely lagged when there is heavy bandwidth use
mircea_popescu: <jurov> otherwise either kernel stalls or pipe is congested(dropped packets, whatever) << i thought this may well be it previously, as load was uncharacteristically high for this application. but solved that problem and apparently no improvement.
mircea_popescu: decimation i know, but this is a major server doing all sorts of other things. it could not stand for five minutes if that were the problem.
ascii_field: and nobody even read the mega-experiment from this morning yet, afaik
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 02:51:53; asciilifeform: if his blk** are ~original~ - as in, they were formed ~as the blocks happened~ - they can contain orphaned (in the traditional sense) blocks
mircea_popescu: different from the orphan, which is "block with no known connection to the hcain"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the latter we now call 'bastard'
mircea_popescu: alright. but the former's still stale rather than orphan
mircea_popescu: as it does have a daddy, just, daddy got married with a wanton slut
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the terminology 'orphan' is used in the source, hence why i referred to it
ascii_field: ('stale' is a better term, but does not appear in src)
mircea_popescu: aha. but anyway : yes all my blks are original in that sense, this bneing the whole point of the exercise.
mircea_popescu: (i also have strained variants, obviously - but of what interest are they)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field are the bursts mechanically the same ? like, all 500kb or w/e ?
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 03:32:56; asciilifeform: iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again
mircea_popescu: ascii_field eh. proceeding from the other direction : not only is the need for a bdb datastore directly indicative of allignment problems, but moreover its presence virtually guarantees them. so no, i don't think you can actually rely on "block after block" thing, but then again i can't be arsed to emacs a .dat
mircea_popescu: honestly the only sane arrangement would be either a) store each block as a file, or else b) store blocks in arbitrary sized files, each starting at offsed 1Mb * block_count
ascii_field: the bdb thing is for tx (and block-by-header) indexing
ascii_field: as so the thing doesn't end up running in O(N) time
mircea_popescu: no fucking idea why it hasn't implemented a from the get go incidentally.
mircea_popescu: yeah but filesystem is who is supposed to deal with this.
ascii_field: filesystems (other than reiser) don't like dir full of millions of turdz
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49923 @ 0.00051175 = 25.5481 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: it is easy to solve. just define custom fs for blockchain
mircea_popescu: because if you run bitcoin on that system, ALL the tradeoffs the kernel makes MUST be organised around its needs.
ascii_field: it is what i wanted to do in the mythical msdos port
mircea_popescu: maybe not msdos, but i think cp/m would actually suffice for everything involved.
ascii_field: (msdos, as we know, won't eat a +2G fs - but doesn't give a damn what you say to the disk controller. so roll your own.)
ascii_field: the only thing that even needs an os in the usual sense is the threading
ascii_field: and not, as naive might suppose, the tcp/ip !
ascii_field: there are ~working~ tcp stacks for 'bare bios'
mircea_popescu: in any case i regard the blkxxx scheme as a hare brained, buggy slow and stupid reimplementation of a filesystem in a kernel that's trying to be an app.
jurov: iirc there's vfat driver for ms-dos.. some 200k
ascii_field: it's how we got the blkxxxx turd in the 1st place
decimation: I do agree that converting blkxxx to dirtree would be an improvement
mircea_popescu reels at the realisation it never occured to him before
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude, how the fuck should i know how people who use magic numbers pick the magic numbers to use./
ascii_field: my brain pulsates like it wants to blow chunks
decimation: oh, here's a c preprocessor macro to implement templates!!
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 03:51:18; midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive.
ascii_field amused re: how that fella appears always at certain... occasions
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 04:03:57; asciilifeform: or different one.
ascii_field: muppet theatre has a box of masks, occasionally they rotate
mircea_popescu: "i'm fat and should work out but the science involved in mean so 6/10" ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i was promised rotation! WHAT IS THIS SCAM
mircea_popescu: will i live to be 90 and read all about "the very exciting technical development of 3d cinema", which apparently didn't fail convincingly enough the fiurst time jack warner trieds to beat television out of the amrket
ascii_field: muppeteer's hand sticky with spoodge, frog got glued on
ascii_field: in yr 2500 there will be folks selling 'forever live' pills
mircea_popescu: fucking curse of an active intelligence : you don't, personalyl, get old. you just get to watch the entire world get very old very fast/
mircea_popescu: i'm sitting here in the 80s romania laughing at 3d glasses. for fucks sake - FROSI, the communist german's youth magazine, sent me some very sturdy cardboard 3d glasses in one edition. was like 86 iirc.
ascii_field: (issued to artillerists, reading oddball experimental maps)
trinque: yeah, but now they're called hololens, and you'll have to take out a credit card to purchase
ascii_field: and i have it on good authority that folks in the age where 'sherlock holmes' is set also laughed
ascii_field: 'google' now sells a cardboard frame one can stuff a pNohe into, as 3d glasses.
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 04:14:20; decimation: and
http://www.helionenergy.com/ < "By combining our years of experience in fusion, newly available electronics technologies, and a revolutionary design using cutting-edge physics, Helion is making a fusion engine 1,000 times smaller, over 500 times cheaper, and realizable 10 time faster than other projects."
mircea_popescu: i could be back in school, listening to retarded 11yos describing their sexual experience in flamboyantly wrong detail.
trinque: they've lived on a planet orbiting a massive fusion reaction; what more do you want?
trinque: mircea_popescu: "peed in her butt"
mircea_popescu: trinque no this was specifically that after summer vacation, guy told class agape this tall tale about the orgy he had going at his grandparent's rural house.
mircea_popescu: so then i asked him where's the little worm thing on the girl's snatch, upside or downside ?
mircea_popescu: and the dude went like wtf am i on about, there's no such thing.
trinque: reminds me of a chick I remember in high school telling me that she had no idea her pussy had a hole in it until *way* later than a healthy human being should
mircea_popescu: "wut do you mean, i heard there's a little nubbin thing like a tip of a finger" "omfg get out of here 6/10 trolling"
mircea_popescu: then the recess was over an' i told the gals all about it. was a very lulzy week.
trinque: I guess this girl thought babies were shat... or something
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 04:15:12; trinque: ah man, I'll be able to bolt one of these to my emdrive and colonize mars
trinque: and turn the trip to mars into a reality tv show
mircea_popescu: where you put a bunch of dumb teens in a room and nobody fucks anyone.
ascii_field: financed with kyc/aml compliant kickstartgogo
mircea_popescu: to quote sammy l, "that's no reality i ever heard of. they speak english in reality ?"
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: hi there. were you able to read through that book? if so, what'd you think?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: nah not finished yet; got distracted
trinque: but I'm sure I'll get to it
mod6: <+ascii_field> i barf from it daily << lol
ag3nt_zer0: any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended
☟︎ trinque: ag3nt_zer0: yeah, I do a bit of that around oregon
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 some p[eople in portland were gazing at the nude biker chiks
trinque: lets just make the tits-out thing year-round
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129350 @ 0.00051728 = 66.9102 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ANI is generally dependent on a warm climate and good central heating.
trinque: sure, I'll accept inside-only
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 04:31:56; cazalla: tfw buying a deciduous tree in the winter and feel like i bought a stick for $20 lol (Hovenia dulcis if anyone cares as much)
trinque: notable how happy everyone seems in town when everyone's ass-naked in the streets
trinque: portland wants to break from the repressed sexuality of america so bad
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 05:52:58; mats: driver insisted i sit in front, fist bump him, and talk the whole trip
mats: 'community ridesharing'
mats: we're supposed to be buds
mircea_popescu: what happened to pointing out to the driver he's to speak when spoken to.
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 19:03:09; ag3nt_zer0: any hikers in here? just did 5 days backpacking in yosemite... unbelievable! - highly recommended
assbot: Logged on 17-06-2015 15:01:15; asciilifeform: whereby a bunch of folks pretend to be an uber 'cabbie' and 'pick up' customers
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ you did cocaine off the mountain's asscrack ?!
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.juliatourianski_.3:70bc5de51fb224a5e85a3b7da3bba658b99a22fdacd4c178f51c1206c73b308d
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☟︎ ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: you had asked what the hell is the sophia perennis anyway... well, a core and concise exposition of it can be found in more than a few works - here is one that stands at 134 pages and I would really love to hear some thoughts on it if you get a chance to sit down with it... if for no other reason than I struggle to find "holes" in it...
http://tohno-chan.com/ddl/src/Rene_Guenon_-_The_Crisis_of_the_Modern_W funkenstein_: lol, definitely enough crack there to last a lifetime
ag3nt_zer0: maybe we were using the "perennial tradition" terms
funkenstein_: incidentally, one of the lines I did was called "the nose"
funkenstein_: was linked here a couple days ago, with full url :)
mircea_popescu: coupla monthgs ago i bought a couple of thin wooden sticks from an art store. impulse buy, i just happened to be next to them.
mircea_popescu: i've since used them as switches, and broke them on ass. the parts i collected and since just about right thickenss, sharpened them
mircea_popescu: and the shavings ? why, the shavings burn, creating this most pleasant wooden smoke atmosphere.
assbot: 2 results for 'perennialism' - #bitcoin-assets search
assbot: Logged on 23-06-2015 03:05:44; mircea_popescu: and wtf is "perennialism" even supposed to be, pico de la mirandolla and friends ?
ascii_field: or what, mircea_popescu took up cuneiform ?
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yes, specifically that
ascii_field used to own such a stick, for putting maths graffiti in wet cement
funkenstein_ thinks ascii_field might know a thing or two about using switches
mircea_popescu: he always struckl me like more of a semaphore kind of guy
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 05:58:05; ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i dream of a world where the insurance to drive your own ass around is prohibitive for all but the ultra-rich
mircea_popescu: and what does mp say about pdfs with innerving regularity and peppered throughout teh logs ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, Rene Guenon, pico de la mirandola & friends.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: yeah, I know. I refuse to the signal the in-tribe, and that seems to be giving him a reason to think I'm some kind of plant with an agenda. If he accepted the truth I think he'd calm down quite a bit, although at this point he'd probably never believe it.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
assbot: Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here.
midnightmagic: So? Opinion doesn't mean action; and it doesn't follow that I'd waste my time reporting, or even communicating with an inverted totalitarianist state, given the literal costs of doing so in terms of freedom and money.
ag3nt_zer0: interesting - have never heard of Mirandola referred to as a core "traditionalist" writer - Guenon, Schuon, Evola, Burkhardt and others - but not Mirandola. From a nothing read I can see a similarity in their attempt to legitimize these modalities of thought but I read that his ideas were influential in renaissance humanism which guenon appears to be highly critical of... ?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic you know not everyone you ever run into will like you.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 he's the original neoplatonician "ezoterist" or however you call this silly sort of romanticism that passes for "traditionalism" in postmodernism.
mircea_popescu: evola, recently mentioned here, very much in the same vein
mircea_popescu: he's certainly above the usual productions of his peninsula.
ascii_field: but it hardly gets deader than the thing that made him
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: but you would consider evola "silly romanticism?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the problem here is that to the children of today the women are grandmothers, but to they that rolled them on all their sides in the hay they'll stay about 20.
mircea_popescu: in which line, i was recently shocked to realise my mother's retiring. when i met the woman she was young!
mircea_popescu: this entire construction is pretty fuckin spiffy if i do so myself.
ascii_field: ^ translation: 'we wanna get rich off our crackpot altcoin plz'
ascii_field: ('cryptovote' is a vastly overworked and tiresome subject in maths academia, for 20+yrs now)
mircea_popescu: is this some sort of ploy to drum up interest for tardstalk forum ?
funkenstein_: lol, sorry.. guy kinda scared with his "you are dumber than DPR"
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: but just becasue I do not consider it silly romanticism does not mean I could not be convinced if one were inclined to point out any inconsistencies in their thought... which is why I ask in this room... I suppose that if there were people able to help me peel back the layers a bit further, or demonstrate to me my own silly romantic tendencies that lead me to think most of this thought is "true", they migh
ag3nt_zer0: again, I understand not having the time or patience as well...
mircea_popescu: why would it matter to me what you could or couldn't be ?
ag3nt_zer0: it doesn't have to... it was out of respect that I asked
mircea_popescu: not the point, tho. the point is, you're approaching it backwards.
ascii_field: then we're left with the 30MB footprint of the bugger itself + mempools
ascii_field: because we no longer are encumbered with winblowz
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: might you offer a suggestion as to how to approach it in a more forward manner?
ascii_field: and, for anyone who has not yet read the article: precisely same footprint ~whether blocks are eaten one by one, or bitcoind merely started with the results thereof~
mircea_popescu: alright. be specific, ask specific questions, construct syllogisms so that you can work tnd and the rest of the devices thought rests on...
mircea_popescu: the unverified suspicion is that this exists as overflow protection.
ascii_field: well we already knew that headers are stored forever in ram
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42150 @ 0.00051733 = 21.8055 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: along with reductio ad absurdum and friends, the infrastructure of all thought.
ascii_field mentally blows dust off his unwritten magnum opus re: ternary computing, 'tertium datur'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field mere moving the gulp posts. "septimum non datur" or w/e
mircea_popescu: (they're not impermissible in nature - merely in thinking. you gotta know what you're talking about)
mircea_popescu: otherwise, feel free to tell your compiler something like "so this program i wanna work on, right ? it has like a number of functions in it and stuff like that"
ascii_field: it remains possible to deal with infinities of certain kinds whilst knowing what one is talking about
mircea_popescu: i suppose this passes for "higher level language" in some circles.
ascii_field: sorta like mold in bathtub does 'what you mean'
mircea_popescu: dude im sitting here cackling at my stupid latin wordplay wtf is wrong with me
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.jwzguy.1:f446dc815dbbca084f820ec4495027452f793977737fde722e5409c9a99631e8
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for jwzguy with note: met at porcfest
williamdunne: Not all vaginas smell, so at least there's that
williamdunne: Ok, well there's the confusion. By smell I thought you meant carries an odour
williamdunne: Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's a wonder then that dogs don't stick the truffle straight into the girl's elbow.
williamdunne: I'll give you that one, then again they have a slight advantage over myself when it comes to detection of it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 46850 @ 0.0003432 = 16.0789 BTC [+]
mats: that was unexpected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00051278 = 8.6147 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: just like qntra, the rabbit is now a part of cazalla
cazalla: williamdunne, not really, if the rabbit mascot was still alive i'd have named him dixie
cazalla: perhaps i'm still at that juvenile stage in my life where if someone tells me i can't have something (flag in this instance) i want it all the more
cazalla: lol i put it up no less than 5 minutes ago BingoBoingo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152000 @ 0.00050558 = 76.8482 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: cazalla: just noticed a typo there ... "cybercrimial" instead of "cybercriminal" in the opening sentence. fix plox :)
cazalla: pete_dushenski, fixed (i do read em before publishing but it's early :P )
ascii_field: 'Here is a 'blkcut' utility. Cuts or counts.'
shinohai: So this is a separate utility?
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ascii_field: but afaik there was no simple, fast cutter
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i can't imagine why tbh, the word is as synonymous to search as is google
shinohai: I hate webchat, my shell got klined
ascii_field: at any rate, you can call sha256sum on the resulting dir tree
mod6: ascii_field: re: blkcut, neat!
mircea_popescu: cazalla if it's ruled a genericized term they lose the trademark.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40658 @ 0.00049896 = 20.2867 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hence "The image was enhanced using A®d®o®be® P®ho®tos®hop®"
cazalla: ah so really nothing more than token measure by legal derpartment to ensure they maintain the trademark?
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, it's the same rassah that's in the WoT, so... probably the same guy?
danielpbarron: he was one of the less annoying people I met last week
mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter what they say, if people use it as a generic term that's that.
ascii_field: so, it is now possible to sync directly from a sliced-up blkxxxxx dir
ascii_field: and theoretically end up with SAME blkxxxxx dir that you ate
ascii_field: e.g., mircea_popescu's 'as it happened' bins
mircea_popescu: ascii_field kinda too lazy to figure out how you start a torrent, and how the fuck am i going to serve 50gb dishes to the public ?
ascii_field: the point, if anyone doesn't get it, is to hunt for nondeterminism ~anywhere~ in bitcoin
shinohai: You need a blockchain torrent?
danielpbarron: > While I was away from the computer when Rassah finally stopped derping about "escrowless" escrow and his 1,000 BTC Prius and got down to business, here's what transpired when he did. << lol I got to see that thing in person and hear the "story" behind it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah, guy's been around forever, i recall his story about selling out at the top cca $13
danielpbarron: basically was "at least I didn't lose the 1k in mt gox"
shinohai: making torrents is easy. Huge file, but doable
danielpbarron: there's a t-shirt: "Mt. Gox went bankrupt and all I got was this lousy Prius."
ascii_field: whoever wants, can download with script as he needs them
shinohai: how small can u make the files with blkcut ascii_field
ascii_field: shinohai: eat one is entirely the size of the respective block
trinque: it's really called europol and eurojust?
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: at one point observed that 9 out of 10 malware samples i got to reverse were zeus variants
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78644 @ 0.00051322 = 40.3617 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: fucking moronic political neologisms
ascii_field: incidentally the src of zeus was leaked long ago
trinque: at least our turd politicians aren't even clever enough to make those
ascii_field: nothing earth-shaking, just a complete trojan system for idiots
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.rassah.1:7d0963bfd9127d46031ea0f8bac168d9f8bb3a63d299918d83ce747fb96eb2f7
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for rassah with note: met at porcfest
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 21:31:35; shinohai: and do i have to reassemble ?
ascii_field: at the end of the day, your ~/.bitcoin and other fella's should be identical.
ascii_field: the only reason to do this, other than pgp-hardened out of band syncs, is to make your bitcoind walk the same logic path as other fella's
ascii_field washes chopping block, picks up gavin feathers
pete_dushenski: to be donned at the annual ceremony where we'll burn more of mp's woodchips,
danielpbarron: the link to the file on my site is missing the 'h' from '
http' but i'm not sure i want to know what happens to my connection if that's corrected :/
pete_dushenski: and chant the cultiest chant there ever was while nubile princesses dance around our circle
mircea_popescu: problems mostly occur to idiots with a ton of js wrapped in who knows what
trinque: and I think he was already in the list with another key
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67857 @ 0.00049872 = 33.8416 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68700 @ 0.00051695 = 35.5145 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: '(TS//SI//NF) BLARNEY Team assists S2C52 analysts in implementing Xkeyscore fingerprints that yield access to U.N. Secretary General talking points prior to meeting with POTUS.'
pete_dushenski: cazalla: 'believed to have acquiesced' based on what ? and 'shut down' link is swapped with its archive
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00049456 = 17.9278 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: pete_dushenski, fixed and added source
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: did you ever receive a notification from the uk gambling commision ? or did they snub you like those chartmakerz
mats: if you've been meaning to get a pogo for a node, haven't for whatever reason, are L1/L2, ill send you some btc with honorable condition you purchase and set one up
pete_dushenski: bitbet and therealbitcoin : blocked out from the land or swarming, smarming idiocy, much to everyone's benefit, since forever
mats: append a btc addr in channel to my nick to redeem
mats: should cover cost of purchase and s&h
danielpbarron: mats, what can I do to make my currently running pogo useful to you?
mats: keep on doing whatever you're doing
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 06:10:14; mats: like its normal to run a half billion dollar net loss in a low margin low moat industry
mircea_popescu: but common sense won't apply because... they'll revolutionize!
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 08:21:20; *: BingoBoingo hates both Github and "rolling release"
mircea_popescu: now, why adult software shouldn't be run on a kiddy paradigm is a different story
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 20:14:14; williamdunne: Oh, well I'll have to disagree. More often than not, at least with my (limited) experience they smell no different to the rest of whomever it belongs to
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williamdunne: cazalla: yeah, last night if you'd stuck it in my face with a blindfold on I wouldn't have been able to tell you I had a vagina before me
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 12:07:42; asciilifeform: not sure what to blame other than ram fault (experiment was taking place on a portable with non-ecc ram)
mircea_popescu: "I don't think that CoreOS registering systemd.pool.ntp.org is the best move. as to me it sounds like @poettering simply doesn't want any end-users to view systemd as some sort of a product providing its own services and, (at least in the minds of some users), being assigned the responsibility for those services or start treating systemd as a separate product, instead of it being an integral part of the distribution
mircea_popescu: "our goal all along was to avoid responsibility for all the stupid shit we're doing. there's not much fun in stealing if one doesn't steal the having been stolen from at the same time!"
trinque: this internet thing is a trip; cultures can go to complete shit faster than ever before
mircea_popescu: in fairness systemd was born sort-of like reddit was born : collecting all the scum frothing at the periphery of a culture.
trinque: yeah, bunch of outcasts finally having their day
trinque: heh it occurs to me that the USA is sort of that
trinque: yeah, the better folks taking their fun elsewhere
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 14:40:44; jurov: such "multimedia" stuff is better to publish on blog
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i wish fighting the commies ever were as much fun as fighting these congenital retards is.
jurov: do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat?
☟︎ shinohai: i dunno, i just made one from 0.5.3 for the hell of it
jurov: did you compare it with their one?
jurov: if not compatible, i'd suggest to xz-compress it (xz is easily appendable, i have tried it in practice)
jurov: heh i did neither. only wanted to
shinohai: I always just cat the blkxxxx.dat's > bootstrap.dat
jurov: when later i got my hands on perma connection, UO's star faded or whatever
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 23:01:44; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note how smoothly the man switched from "we've always said bitcoin has to have larger blocks" to "we;ve always said bitcoin is using up too much electricity" in midsentence!
mircea_popescu: "1. be as bland as possible ; 2. find an insecure fuckwit to leech off ; 3. get lucky"
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 23:03:08; jurov: do you plan to kep it compatible with phoundation bootstrap.dat?
jurov: they say it's just <4-byte pchMessageStart><32-bit length><CBlock, serialized in network wire format>
pete_dushenski: lol well, with two articles published today, ima sign off for the eve. a river cruise and fireworks await. cheers !
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trinque: gonna need security cam footage of this
williamdunne: trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating
☟︎ trinque: williamdunne: yeah, I'm just amused as shit at the thought of some german guy shouting "EVERYSING IS VURKING ACCORDINK TO SPECIFICATION!"
trinque: ZEE NORDIK SYSTEM IS VURKINK!
assbot: Logged on 01-07-2015 23:46:56; williamdunne: trinque: The guy walked into the security enclosure while the machine was operating
williamdunne: I could put up with losing my legs, but I would be fucked if I lost my hands
mats: type with your feet!
mats: how would that work? morse code?