⏐︎ 6176
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-05-2015#1146331 << Can confirm ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-05-2015 14:31:51; asciilifeform: gavin & the merry band of shitgnomes used their magic key to transmit 'Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!'
danielpbarron: ^ also can confirm
BingoBoingo: Apparently when this started http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/05/21#l1432217513.0
mats: https://plus.google.com/+gimp/posts/cxhB1PScFpe
BingoBoingo: Not questioner is refered to https://archive.is/F1OK7 which does not mention latest alert
mats: SourceForge has been diddling downloads for some years...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.0003115 = 4.2831 BTC [+]
mats: https://youtu.be/-qqx3_e-kCA
danielpbarron: lol gimp on winblows? is it so hard to crack photoshop these days?
williamdunne: copy amtlib.dll paste
BingoBoingo: Oh, and look what just popped up on reddit after being mentioned here another time: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37j3cf/network_alert_circulating/
ben_vulpes surfaces
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> i do agree, pets must be exercised properly << exercise for pets. yokes for my oxen, saddles for my horses, mice for my cats, and coyotes for my dogs.
mats: a weighted vest is incredible for training a dog
mats: and so are weighted toys
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub/32rng.jpg
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ^ just in now
BingoBoingo: Beautiful
BingoBoingo: So what all versions of bitcoin has everyone here been seeing alerts on? 0.7 series here. danielpbarron?
asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/2a822987dd710427328fa458a4141e060c39a755/src/main.cpp#L2019
asciilifeform: ^ possible answer to the riddle
asciilifeform: ^ shitgnome key not involved; but proliferation of shitgnomiferous nodes leads to the trap
danielpbarron: yeah 0.7.2 here
danielpbarron: did not see it on my 0.5.3.x
danielpbarron: confirming that the patch did in fact remove it
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: because the trap isn't there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77116 @ 0.00031081 = 23.9684 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: Oh, apparently that reddit post has a comment, but it is invisibru
BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/sNSMMbz.jpg
cazalla: i've been getting those alerts for some months and i get hit with orphans and other shit when it happens and have to use a backup to start again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6782 @ 0.00030922 = 2.0971 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: MPOE seems like It's been awfully stable at the 3 mark lately ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00030714 = 5.5746 BTC [-] {2}
mats: its bumming me out
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.0003045 = 4.7807 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo may or may not be backing into MPOE monthly. Provided a given person didn't put too much into MPOE at 8+ and MPOE stabilizes long term near 5, could still be profitable.
decimation: asciilifeform: didn't you need a note from stalin to shop in the dollar store in su?
decimation: surely some prole showing up with dollars would be enough cause to send the local security to check him out
decimation: !up Jrum
decimation: !up mogreen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00030494 = 8.6603 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26608 @ 0.00031178 = 8.2958 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: decimation: more complicated than this. you couldn't spend dollars per se in there, had to use special 'funny money'
asciilifeform: which one got either by trading in dollars at airport (if you are a foreign tourist) or by having been paid in it in the first place, on account of being diplomatic staff or similar
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So like the strip club
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: what strip club works like this ?
decimation: asciilifeform: so this was mainly limited to foreign embassy staff?
asciilifeform: decimation: this particular variant of the 'k00l k1dz' store - yes
asciilifeform: there were others
asciilifeform: not sure if a complete list even exists
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: A number of shittier ones. You trade dollars for "club money" dancers trade the club monopoly money for dollars. Like casino chips, but more tarded
BingoBoingo: !up kalki
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: presumably this is done to smooth the vig collection ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: indeed
kalki: grettings
decimation: kinda ths same idea at casinos?
kalki: greetings
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: also for revenue reasons. No customer wants to wait to cash back into outside money at the end of the night.
BingoBoingo: !up tcrypt
asciilifeform: decimation: on second look, there were 'beriozka' ('birch') shops which took dollars directly
asciilifeform: mainly near hotels.
asciilifeform: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%91%D0%B7%D0%BA%D0%B0_%28%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%29#/media/File:%D0%A7%D0%B5%D0%BA.JPG
asciilifeform: ^ funnymoney
asciilifeform: back side reads 'this cheque is not subject to resale'
asciilifeform: abolished in '88.
asciilifeform: amusing story was, that the closure was announced in advance. and holders of the 'cheques' struggled to cash them in, somehow, somewhere
asciilifeform: was a kind of 'bitcoin gem'
asciilifeform: the shops ended up 'privatized'
asciilifeform: and eventually disappeared
decimation: heh that's amusing
asciilifeform: in '91 dollars were legalized
asciilifeform: and the remaining 'birch' took them directly from all-comers.
asciilifeform: (to clarify, 'cheques' were abolished in '88, rather than the k00l k1dz shops)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00031329 = 18.1708 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform never saw one of these things alive, only knows secondhand
decimation: so presumably these 'cheques' were only handed out to foreigners and people with notes from stalin
asciilifeform: aha.
decimation: I wouldn't mind collecting a few of those
decimation: I would add them to my collection of weimar notes
asciilifeform: decimation: could easily expand the collection with a dozen kinds of sov-era toilet paper
asciilifeform: http://img35.olx.ua/images_slandocomua/132220713_3_644x461_kupony-ukraina-unc-kollektsionirovanie.jpg
asciilifeform traded a shoebox full of these ^ for his first $1 usd
decimation: heh all the pastel colors
asciilifeform: these, incidentally, were printed on machines hastily flown in from usa
asciilifeform: and there were some interesting production glitches
decimation: http://snyderstreasures.com/images/paper/currency/5RM1Aug42F.jpg < the third reich currency is of much better quality (i have a couple of these too)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00030578 = 15.289 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: who's the fella in the picture ?
decimation: donno, some dude I guess. I have another with a young woman on it too
decimation: 'hitlerjunge'
asciilifeform: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86#/media/File:UkraineP55-200Karbowanez-1942_f.jpg << occupation ua
asciilifeform: mostly western ua, did not circulate in romanian zone
asciilifeform: speaking of which,
asciilifeform spotted a gurl from transylvania today; she worked in a restaurant; queried based on accent, familiar from hanging out with mircea_popescu ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is only 2nd or 3rd time i ran into anyone from ro in 22+ yrs of sitting in usa
asciilifeform: generally these folks have better sense than to come here. ☟︎
decimation: my father had some romanian carpenters set his nice wood floor
decimation: heh > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsmark < "The Soviet Union demanded copies of the engraving plates, ink, and associated equipment in early 1944, and on 14 April 1944 Henry Morgenthau and Harry Dexter White of the U.S. Treasury Department authorized the immediate air transfer of these to the USSR. Using a printing plant in occupied Leipzig, the Soviet authorities printed large runs of occupation marks. Since these were converti
asciilifeform: this encounter was actually very interesting, because even from across the room and with naked eye, could tell she was not from usa --
asciilifeform: because had a human face instead of 'robotic statue'
decimation: heh
asciilifeform: i almost wanted to ask 'what are you doing here, in the kingdom of malicious robots, fellow earthling'
decimation: in my experience this is worse on the east coast
decimation: I think people's reaction to high population density is to treat humans as if they were robots
asciilifeform: can't say that we have 'tokyo' population density here in d.c. suburbs.
asciilifeform: if anything, far lower than, e.g., buenos aires
asciilifeform: but here - robots, there - people.
decimation: yeah that's a fair point.
decimation: perhaps it's the narcissism. "your real self" is only shown to those whom you select
asciilifeform: perhaps only behind closed doors
decimation: after all, if you could see the size of the egos in the dc area you would find tokyo roomy
asciilifeform: when talking to chums, etc. in public, these folks have precisely same face.
asciilifeform is speaking of women, primarily; men seem to wear proverbial 'poker face' just about anywhere
decimation: asciilifeform: I wonder what it was like to walk around in a society where marriages were arranged
decimation: thus freeing women from unwanted sexual attention to some degree
decimation: !up mogreen
decimation: !up Xuthus
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt0BJ0QE-9Y << mega-relevant ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ 18th episode of ru cult-cartoon 'just you wait' - a kind of sov. equivalent of american 'tom & jerry', takes place in 'beriozka' shop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00030836 = 5.0879 BTC [+]
decimation: asciilifeform: heh the vacuum has a 'GE' logo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50439 @ 0.0003136 = 15.8177 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82100 @ 0.0003142 = 25.7958 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57050 @ 0.00030833 = 17.5902 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7121 @ 0.0003091 = 2.2011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21250 @ 0.00030785 = 6.5418 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52900 @ 0.00030785 = 16.2853 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51050 @ 0.00030999 = 15.825 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00031452 = 15.6631 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34156 @ 0.00031482 = 10.753 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147962 @ 0.00030541 = 45.1891 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00030185 = 4.1052 BTC [-]
fluffypony: q
fluffypony: that was supposed to be me closing my IRC client
fluffypony needs more coffee
fluffypony is afk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00030185 = 15.7264 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up TheAdversary
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64050 @ 0.00030158 = 19.3162 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: Watchmen (2009) has a beautiful black Mac SE/30
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.0003035 = 12.1704 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.0003035 = 4.4008 BTC [+]
scoopbot_revived: An inconsiderable speck. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/28/an-inconsiderable-speck/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00030345 = 8.0263 BTC [-]
davout: mod6: nice work on the metrics gathering!
davout: did you measure the total consumed BW for each sync?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o hey, nice.
BingoBoingo: davout: How much of what kind of CPU is monero taking as it syncs?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18338 @ 0.0003035 = 5.5656 BTC [+]
davout: BingoBoingo: doesn't seem to use up a lot
davout: I have ~16% CPU, 32% MEM
davout: the box has 4gb ram
BingoBoingo: davout: And it still takes so long to sync days?
davout: I'm 158 days behind still
mircea_popescu: sounds more like a weak network than anything
BingoBoingo: If monero's still around in a year might be interested.
BingoBoingo: That would still be like getting into Bitcoin in 2011-ish
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00031482 = 2.8649 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146642 << at least it stopped checking out the teenaged prices. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 01:51:58; BingoBoingo: MPOE seems like It's been awfully stable at the 3 mark lately
BingoBoingo: yeah
BingoBoingo: This is probably either one of the best or the worst times to move into s.mpoe
BingoBoingo rather... marinated... discovered #fatpeoplehate is a channel on freenode
BingoBoingo: so cathartic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00030543 = 15.9434 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: probably appeal less to #b-a members not in the god damned middle west
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61750 @ 0.00031483 = 19.4408 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: it is /!
mircea_popescu: ?!
BingoBoingo: It really is. Apparently they organize around a reddit, butwho knows how long that part will last given reddit's censorship.
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: Mebbe they move to 8chan for moar ad impressions?
BingoBoingo: !up diana_coman
cazalla: gee that was one awful hangover
BingoBoingo not even done drinking and next hangover is beginning
cazalla: imma go to AA or something lol
BingoBoingo: But who will help keep the #b-a glass full?
cazalla: "If you answered “yes” to more than 8 questions, you may have a serious level of alcohol-related problems requiring immediate attention and possible treatment."
cazalla scores 22, what's this 8 business?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00030543 = 8.3688 BTC [-]
cazalla: BingoBoingo, full? it's been spilling over for months if not years
BingoBoingo: cazalla: We got to carry it inshifts like and olympic torch
BingoBoingo: !s olympic
assbot: 39 results for 'olympic' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=olympic
cazalla: i don't really want to be a gold medal winner at drinking
BingoBoingo: I kinda still do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121881 @ 0.00031851 = 38.8203 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: the shit is too expensive anyway
BingoBoingo: http://8ch.net/btc/res/331.html#340 lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00031868 = 8.5088 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol jay
BingoBoingo: Don't forget silent bob, he kinda filmed it
BingoBoingo: I also kinda like/might have wrote http://8ch.net/btc/res/332.html#q341
cazalla: don't link my drunken shit posting :P
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I dun know how you imageboard post. You aussies are all alike.
BingoBoingo: On that medium
cazalla: dats raysis
BingoBoingo: Not as racis as dem abbos
BingoBoingo: Linked from fatpeoplehate IRC https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/xo41d/doctorsnursesredditors_what_has_been_your_most/c5o66p2
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146705 << ahaha win. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 03:26:41; *: asciilifeform spotted a gurl from transylvania today; she worked in a restaurant; queried based on accent, familiar from hanging out with mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: so where was she from ?
BingoBoingo guesses Cluj
BingoBoingo: Nice one whoever http://8ch.net/btc/res/322.html#q343
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146729 << heh nu zayet... moderately popular in ro of the 90s. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 03:50:21; asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt0BJ0QE-9Y << mega-relevant
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48750 @ 0.00031567 = 15.3889 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42943 @ 0.00031836 = 13.6713 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49257 @ 0.00031882 = 15.7041 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up PinkPosixPXE
BingoBoingo: !up chatquack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00031086 = 8.3777 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: trinque: send you an email with the solution
gabriel_laddel: s/send/sent
BingoBoingo: lol http://wptavern.com/wordpress-theme-review-team-is-cracking-down-on-violations-of-the-presentation-vs-functionality-guideline
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.0003147 = 18.6302 BTC [+] {2}
gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell nubbins` where all did you live in Korea?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: lol http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/05/fifa_arrests_sepp_blatter_s_organization_might_actually_go_down_thanks_to.html
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Isn't nubbsy in twodogs land?
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: I've nfi what twodogs land is and idk
BingoBoingo: !s twodogsland
assbot: 0 results for 'twodogsland' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=twodogsland
BingoBoingo: !s twodogs land
assbot: 0 results for 'twodogs land' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=twodogs+land
BingoBoingo: !s two dogs land
assbot: 0 results for 'two dogs land' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=two+dogs+land
BingoBoingo: huh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00030878 = 17.5696 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.0003066 = 12.9692 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically, these dudes allowed the us into soccer in the 80s, now the us doesn't want them to be the bosses anymore.
BingoBoingo: pretty much
mircea_popescu: pretty cheeky.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd3hurG6I1ri9dzjo1_500.gif ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Kinda what US just doing what it does
mircea_popescu: fifa should probably just convict "us prosecutors" for fraud etc.
BingoBoingo: Basketball and Hockey were US tamed pretty readily, but the last couple years European teams started doing a bunch of exhibition games in the US and selling out so Nike and Gatorade had to call their congressmen
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: Because OMG Serbia Vs. Croatia sold 45,000 tickets in a third tier midwestern city for and exhibition game
mircea_popescu: that said, a bunch of these twerps were pretty rotten. jack warner being a fine example
mircea_popescu: of course he got kicked out years ago, but whatevs.
gabriel_laddel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji6aYOJJHhY << re: stoya (MP's latest news)
gabriel_laddel: re:ass-pussy (buggery) http://cdn.ftvgirls.com/images/super/update/large/065.jpg
gabriel_laddel: also, http://cdn.ftvgirls.com/images/super/update/large/183.jpg
gabriel_laddel: !s epic mega-series
assbot: 1 results for 'epic mega-series' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=epic+mega-series
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To be fair in illustrating the US's humiliation over the soccer situation the US's most bezzel'd league had teams selling tickets under five dollars to not fill stadiums in some the same cities soccer was selling out.
BingoBoingo: They are embarassed
BingoBoingo: They also don't so anything in the way of running a minor league either, but...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72300 @ 0.00030537 = 22.0783 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: The hockey situation in the US/Canada isn't much better. A number of great players drafted by NHL teams are staying in the KHL
BingoBoingo: ;;google vladimir sbotka
gribble: Vladimír Sobotka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladim%C3%ADr_Sobotka>; Vladimir Sobotka - St Louis Blues - NHL.com: <http://blues.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471743>; Vladimir Sobotka, Blues - Stats - NHL.com - Players: <http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471743>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28657 @ 0.00031416 = 9.0029 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40726 @ 0.0003194 = 13.0079 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20009 @ 0.00031417 = 6.2862 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52521 @ 0.00031136 = 16.3529 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21352 @ 0.00031981 = 6.8286 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12738 @ 0.00031136 = 3.9661 BTC [-]
gabriel_laddel: hola pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: hola gabe !
gabriel_laddel: so what jurisdiction are you visiting today?
pete_dushenski: bern today.
pete_dushenski: and the sun is *finally* shining !
pete_dushenski: 22C and crystal clear blue skies
pete_dushenski: spring is definitely in the air in switzerland
gabriel_laddel: sorry, bern?
gabriel_laddel: ah
gabriel_laddel: ohhoho
pete_dushenski: my goodness can these people garden
gabriel_laddel: that sounds lovely
pete_dushenski: it is :)
pete_dushenski: sort of a quieter, smaller scale japan full of big-eyed folks
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: you've been to JP?
pete_dushenski: ayup.
pete_dushenski: tokyo, osaka, nagasaki
pete_dushenski: spent a few days in each
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=26-05-2015#1144993 << heh. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-05-2015 00:50:22; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski the funniest part about the medieval japanese cuts is that at the time, bare cunt was the standard there and nowhere else. meanwhile, they have to pixelate it today, lest it jumps out and eats their head or something.
pete_dushenski imagine a japanimation lockness bursting forth from between girl's legs
gabriel_laddel: Oh that would make a lovely hentai. Breaking the 4th wall pixellation of privates.
pete_dushenski: one wonders what it'll take to break the pixelation wall
pete_dushenski: fukushima... wasn't enough.
pete_dushenski: i can see the idiots giving up on their idiocy after a good chinese butt pumping.
gabriel_laddel: JP is weird. I don't know that they're censoring it because they find it "offensive"
gabriel_laddel: did you see the signs telling schoolchildren to "beware the chikan"?
gabriel_laddel: BAD (#bitcoin-assets distro) update #3. Install works (writing this from a machine formatted in the past 24hrs) and is a massive PITA. Next TODO on my list is to radically simplify (automate) the install. I've updated install doc if anyone is interested: gabriel-laddel.github.io/system.html
gabriel_laddel: mod6: ^ is based on funtoo, a variant of gentoo.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: Idk what exactly your goals are on your gentoo quest, but have you reached the conclusion that portage is insane and must go?
pete_dushenski: http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/24945225.jpg << this 'chikan' ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146846 << my first impression was that the instrument is a very long... spoon ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 11:55:42; mircea_popescu: in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd3hurG6I1ri9dzjo1_500.gif
gabriel_laddel: ^ I can't read Japanese, but that looks correct from what I've read of the phenomenon.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform clearly a horsewhip
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel it looks effective to me. at least as much as any fuzzy rat puppet (in canada) telling kids not to trust strangers
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: ah, but the weird bit is that this is (according to asa akira) the *most common* offense in JP, and happens to a huge percentage of the population.
gabriel_laddel: So, they put up signs warning schoolgirls about being molested on the packed trains, but never put any effort into... putting personal space on the trains or the like. ☟︎
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: they did proclaim female-only train cars iirc
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel how does one insert personal space onto an small mountainous island ?
pete_dushenski: this is like trying to build a concrete foundation under a mountain
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: how I would go about it - pastebin.com/AdTXnKT6
pete_dushenski: under *the whole thing*
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel this is the spec/manifesto for BAD ?
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: nah, it was a message to someone on #lisp
gabriel_laddel: also, I tried getting someone doing housing in SF excited about it
pete_dushenski: good god man get yourself a blog already.
pete_dushenski: what is this, 1960 ?
gabriel_laddel: (he raised something like 30MM - is doing traditional housing)
gabriel_laddel: fucking moron
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: cars (at least of the petrol variety) underground is a ventilation nightmare. use trains, like sane people
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: noted.
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel what 'it' were you getting mr. sf-house-builder excited about ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i will also note that i tried the opengl thing, and barfed
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pete_dushenski is using trains to bounce around la suisse.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: it doesn't map to henderson-style 'functional graphics' at all
gabriel_laddel: OpenGL needs to be taken out back and shot, along with its creators
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: modular, robotically assembled human habitation
asciilifeform bbl
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel ah ok.
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: how do the trains compare to your merc?
pete_dushenski: lol the scenery out the window is prettier. also, tracks are a hell of a lot smoother than shitty alberta roads.
pete_dushenski: swiss tracks in particular.
pete_dushenski: the train system here is fantastic : frequent scheduling, short trips, stations are conveniently located.
pete_dushenski: it helps that everything is tightly packed together.
pete_dushenski: a 45 min or even 2 hour trip doesn't eat your day up
pete_dushenski: the 6-9 hour train i took across spain and portugal a few years ago most certainly did.
gabriel_laddel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car#Japan << lol
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel: debuggering
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: aha 'chikan' means groping
pete_dushenski shakes fist at slow-ass-assbot.
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: are you traveling the world, or do you take up residency in these countries from time to time?
pete_dushenski: i just travel for a few weeks here and a few more weeks there.
pete_dushenski: it's a hobby more than anything.
pete_dushenski: homebase is still in canada.
pete_dushenski: traveling keeps me sane and clear-headed. edmonton is pretty dull but that's where my roots are.
pete_dushenski: i'd leave at the drop of a hat if push came to shove, but it hasn't yet.
gabriel_laddel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richling << Impressive resume. Mitch also has a collection of CL mathematics hacks, mjrcalc.
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: ever been to China or Korea?
pete_dushenski: mhm. i've been to pusan (where i have a cousin), beijing, shanghai, and hong kong.
pete_dushenski: ftr my cousin isn't korean, his wife... is.
pete_dushenski: gabriel_laddel just curious ? have you been to kr and cn as well ?
gabriel_laddel: pete_dushenski: Nope. Consider this a request for a blog post on your travels in these two regions.
pete_dushenski: i'll take your request into consideration :)
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
gabriel_laddel is going for a walk
pete_dushenski: cheers !
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pete_dushenski: "In a fifth floor office just off Zurich's main shopping street, researchers at UBS (UBSG.VX) are testing dozens of technologies to see what could make the world's biggest wealth manager more appealing as fortunes pass to the next generation."
pete_dushenski: ""How do you get under the skin of clients today, because they often work on their mobiles and they manage their wealth in their spare time," said Dave Bruno, head of UBS's innovation lab. "It might be in the bathroom, it might be waiting for a flight.""
pete_dushenski: "Bruno and his team are designing video games, including a prototype puzzle for iPads and smartphones, and looking at virtual reality simulations to help people visualise what are often complex investment portfolios."
pete_dushenski: "They are also working on technologies that allow clients to log into their accounts using their voice patterns and facial features, doing away with the time consuming and frustrating need to answer security questions."
pete_dushenski: the future of this country... looks awful.
pete_dushenski: thankfully, there are plenty of relics and pieces of art to pick from once they shoot themselves in the head 9 more times.
pete_dushenski: also, it's worth mentioning that for anyone into 100+ year-old deadtree books, switzerland is where it's at
pete_dushenski: i've never seen so many beautifully preserved copies of literature, philosophy, history, biology, you name it. in german, french, latin, english too ☟︎
pete_dushenski: i saw one such bookstore in manhattan a couple years back, complete with $30,000 copy of le petite prince, but that was just one shop.
pete_dushenski: there are a handful of such stores in pretty much every town here !
pete_dushenski: it's pretty heavenly, i have to admit.
gabriel_laddel: copypaste: re: your ddos / anon problems, have you read about wotnet in the logs? \
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pete_dushenski: "Avago, a maker of chips for the wireless and industrial markets, is offering Broadcom shareholders $17 billion in cash and Avago shares valued at $20 billion in one of the biggest deals ever in the chip industry." << i have to admit that i'd never heard of 'avago' before.
pete_dushenski: though apparently they recently purchase 'emulex' as well
pete_dushenski: !s avago
assbot: 0 results for 'avago' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=avago
gabriel_laddel: !up pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: "Broadcom is known as a fabless company. It outsources all semiconductor manufacturing to Asian merchant foundries, such as GlobalFoundries, Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation, Silterra, TSMC, and United Microelectronics Corporation." << ahaha. so what the fuck did $37 bn even buy ? ☟︎
mod6: <+gabriel_laddel> mod6: Idk what exactly your goals are on your gentoo quest, but have you reached the conclusion that portage is insane and must go? << this project had to take a pause; I need to get some cash together to buy a physical box to put together steps for configuration on real hardware as opposed to aws or other cloud infrastructure. no, for now, I'm trying to stick with a Gentoo-amd64-uclibc-hardened. That's the goal anyway.
mod6: I should be able to get a box for this sometime after the 1st.
gabriel_laddel: mod6: what is your ultimate goal with the gentoo quest?
mod6: it's in the logs.
gabriel_laddel: !up TheAdversary
mike_c: http://i.imgur.com/XSCaapg.png
mike_c: we gotta get more chinese in here.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134588 @ 0.00030168 = 40.6025 BTC [-] {4}
mod6: gabriel_laddel: also, it'll get discussed in the Monthly Address.
mod6: so, stay tuned :]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35361 @ 0.00030108 = 10.6465 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: incase anyone missed this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000093.html
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35000 @ 0.00005898 = 2.0643 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00030411 = 5.4132 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: (it's a boy) ☟︎
mike_c: ben_vulpes: your baby arrived?
ben_vulpes: naw, just the sonogram
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00030411 = 5.8389 BTC [+]
mike_c: ah. correct # of fingers and toes?
ben_vulpes: looked like
ben_vulpes: many measurements
mike_c: congrats!
ben_vulpes: then the machine ran out of paper and there were many windows error modals
mike_c: hehe
mod6: ben_vulpes: congrats!!
ben_vulpes: ty mod6
mod6: yw. glad to hear the good news.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81536 @ 0.00030778 = 25.0952 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: probly best to reserve congratulations for when it survives that first night on the porch
mike_c: everybody's bringing their newborns to c4, right?
jurov: http://pastebin.com/AdTXnKT6 that's some elaborate shannonizer?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3369 @ 0.000315 = 1.0612 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.000315 = 13.293 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0003162 = 1.6442 BTC [+]
jurov: ben_vulpes: congrats! hope it'll be mangy after the daddy!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137727 @ 0.0003094 = 42.6127 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57698 @ 0.00029985 = 17.3007 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: mike_c omaigerd...
mircea_popescu: heh yeah. stoya is probably the defining woman of the 2000s.
mircea_popescu: shoulda been jolie's crown. but libertardism can ruin anything.
felipelalli: Finally in English: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37maml/the_fabulous_bitcoin_island/ - thank you danielpbarron for the help.
mircea_popescu: jurov in any case he means consumed not "consummate"
mircea_popescu: consummation is what happens to virgin brides.
mircea_popescu: so now the choice is between system-d and system.html ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146904 << it's a crop. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 13:45:46; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146846 << my first impression was that the instrument is a very long... spoon
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146910 << i think the idea is that the warning enhances the experience. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 13:49:33; gabriel_laddel: So, they put up signs warning schoolgirls about being molested on the packed trains, but never put any effort into... putting personal space on the trains or the like.
mircea_popescu: for the record, egypt had women only cars in the subway
mircea_popescu: i know because i got into one.
chetty: but you cant do that in the west, it wouldnt be fair to have women only stuffs
mircea_popescu: chetty oh remember how giggly they were when we ended up in the wrong car ? lol
chetty: hahahahaha
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1146972 << most of the old jewish haunt, from berlin to moscow, is a huge pile of old books looking for new onwners ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 14:32:02; pete_dushenski: i've never seen so many beautifully preserved copies of literature, philosophy, history, biology, you name it. in german, french, latin, english too
mircea_popescu personally doesn't care about books anymore, but can readily see the collector's mindset.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/XSCaapg.png << heh best cycles ever. we're getting back to the baseline, which was 1820
chetty: I still like the feel of an actual book, but the worlds libraries on your lap is hard to beat
mike_c: except for europe. i don't think they're going to turn it around
mircea_popescu: i think they are probably going to be 20-30% forever.
mircea_popescu: the last major invention in the world (the cellphone) is yurpean.
mircea_popescu: the last time the us invented something, hitler wasn't born yet.
mike_c: the nsa invented bitcoin
mircea_popescu: oh right, i forgot.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-05-2015#1147000 << congrats! even thousdand too look at that. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-05-2015 16:29:59; ben_vulpes: (it's a boy)
felipelalli: ben_vulpes: congrats man! :)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00030144 = 2.221 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56611 @ 0.00030144 = 17.0648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00030201 = 3.156 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00030732 = 15.3045 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mod6 o hey check it out, early report
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: is anyone interested in seeing the (elementary) 4294967297 proof as a proper article ?
asciilifeform: or is it obvious to everyone by now
mircea_popescu: documenting things is always a good idea.
mircea_popescu: so go right ahead
asciilifeform: well yes, but is there any part of it that isn't obvious
mircea_popescu: no.
williamdunne: Mm should be in Bucharest in a couple of weeks..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: has anyone considered the effect of not storing 'orphan transactions' ?
mod6: I can't remember if we discussed that or not, outside of the context of your OrphanageBurner
asciilifeform: not related
asciilifeform: or rather, not directly
asciilifeform: our 0.5.3.x has MAX_ORPHAN_TRANSACTIONS but the boojum is that a malicious (or 'cosmic rayed') node can transmit orphan transaction of any size, iirc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.0003016 = 12.9688 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: 1) and thus, valgrind will not see this as a leak, because the memory is theoretically reclaimable
mod6: ah!
asciilifeform: 2) tiny turds, stored and then reclaimed, lead to fragging ☟︎
ben_vulpes: interdasting
asciilifeform: about to try this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48949 @ 0.00030149 = 14.7576 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: intentionally filling a 0.5.3.x with orphans?
asciilifeform: no, the opposite
ben_vulpes: *.x << contains thermonuke?
asciilifeform: naturally, with thermonuke also
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> about to try this. << still failing to parse
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it will make sense once you read the patch.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000094.html
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10865 @ 0.00030149 = 3.2757 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: gentlemen, start your engines.
asciilifeform: mine is at 87132 and counting.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17919 @ 0.00030149 = 5.4024 BTC [-]
asciilifeform takes off 'madman muntz' napoleon bicorn
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 please consider this patch for your test rig
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform is stuck wondering why nobody tried this
asciilifeform: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CVE-2012-3789 << the power ranger version
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu this patch sorta sits right down and has lunch right on top of your 'clean air filter' third rail discussed in c3. but this gordian knot -will- have to be cut one way or another.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: why not just rewrite the memory allocation engine at this point, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: because the simplest way to get more space, so to speak, in one's house, is to -stop- bringing in and keeping driftwood, dead animals, neighbour's garbage
asciilifeform: rather than building bigger house
asciilifeform: or hiring a housekeeper
asciilifeform: and ought to be tried first.
asciilifeform: !s hoarders buried alive
assbot: 0 results for 'hoarders buried alive' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hoarders+buried+alive
asciilifeform: ;;google hoarders buried alive
gribble: Hoarding: Buried Alive | TLC: <http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/hoarding-buried-alive/>; Hoarding Moments Season 1 | Hoarding: Buried Alive | TLC: <http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/hoarding-buried-alive/videos/videos/>; Hoarding: Buried Alive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoarding:_Buried_Alive>
asciilifeform: ^ see also.
asciilifeform: 133060 & counting.
asciilifeform: ~69M.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000094.html << wow! nice. will review & start up a test on this later tonight. many thanks. :]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: more seriously, the only kind of allocator that is a sure pill against fragging is a compacting one. which means -relocating- !! just picture this in a cpp proggy not originally designed for it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sorta like the proverbial 'jet engine on a ford pinto' situation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00029847 = 11.8791 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: 'twasn't serious.
mike_c: slab allocation would prevent fragging too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37563 @ 0.0003162 = 11.8774 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: !up antonosika_
asciilifeform: mike_c: slab only really works when we have a small number of known sizes of object
mike_c: like orphan blocks, no?
asciilifeform: mike_c: we no longer have orphan (bastard) blocks..
asciilifeform: (or at least i don't)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.00029844 = 12.7135 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, now that we have a bounded memory footprint, it may be time to try running pogo with swap space again
asciilifeform: danielpbarron ^
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: iirc you had something set up for this ^ ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56020 @ 0.00031694 = 17.755 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: yes my pogo uses 2 gigs of swap
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: incidentally, even though 'transaction orphanage amputator' may not be a magical pill against oom-on-pogo (my preliminary investigation suggests that it is -not-) it still rips out the idiotic ddos vector that every unbounded cache of anything whatsoever is.
asciilifeform: and yes, even with the count-bound, the in-practice bound on the tx orphanage bytewise is ridiculous - 5GB ?
asciilifeform: 'hoarders' belong in lunatic asylums.
asciilifeform: imagine having a special door in your house through which perfect strangers are invited to dump in up to five thousand tonnes of gravel.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00030959 = 10.0926 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: and in the case of 'pogo', the door is not in your house, but in... your car.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00030099 = 7.615 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: so it occurs to me that a #b-a version of archive.today might be useful, really nothing stopping whomever going back to edit archives whereas with our own, we could sign the archives we make
scoopbot_revived: DoJ Charges Dark Market Coupon Merchant http://qntra.net/2015/05/doj-charges-dark-market-coupon-merchant/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00029788 = 12.928 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00030254 = 5.5667 BTC [+]
hanbot: cazalla, you can alter what you sign. you mean deedbot?
cazalla: hanbot, well of course someone can alter what they submit but they risk their rep in doing so if found out
hanbot: just like if unsigned then? :D
cazalla: i'm sure there is a better way to do it but relying on archive.today probably isn't that great an idea but not sure what else to do (for example, all the bitcoin auction stuff has been completely removed from the US Marshall's website) ☟︎
hanbot: ahaha. mp was calling them scammers a month ago, everyone was like "orly, mp is so crazu". turns out...
hanbot: anyway, archive.today the deedbot page consisting of a dump of the page source of an archive.today page? haha!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00032262 = 4.5973 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 184650, ~166M
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16878 @ 0.00030939 = 5.2219 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: re: memory hunger: anyone investigated effect of https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17076_04/html/api_reference/CXX/envset_memory_max.html ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: ^^