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assbot: Sydney siege: Abbott refuses to blame Islam for Man Haron Monis's actions | Australia news | The Guardian ... (
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mats: the IRA and its motivations are separatist and political in nature
mats: unlike the war islam is waging on the rest of the world, on the express command of the prophet
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kakobrekla: -1.26, i wonder if this accounts for the general shit quality of miner hw
mike_c: kakobrekla, you going to ba in april?
mike_c: aww. it's a new stamp on the passport!
mike_c: i hear bitcoins in argentina are dirt cheap too
kakobrekla: well that seems to be the case round the globe
mike_c: well, hopefully there will be a rally soon and you change your mind.
kakobrekla: lol i dont mind the rally but has nothing to do with it :)
mike_c: the long flight? rotten company?
mike_c: but that's just the time the rest of us will be there.
mike_c: you should come! it'll be fun.
mike_c: i think he hates travelling.
kakobrekla: i dont leave the house if i dont have to.
mike_c: so you're saying you'll go if ascii goes.
kakobrekla: he must go to show off the rng or smth? :)
mike_c: he better not show up with the same thing as last year
mats: if it even exists by march
kakobrekla: the idea it it wont, so he wont and i wont.
mats: gonna miss this xmas deadline :( this 0.35btc has been burning a hole in my wallet
kakobrekla: i can dispose of that for a modest fee
decimation: asciilifeform: re: useful classes < at purdue they had welding, but it was always completely booked
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BingoBoingo: Very hard for a person to quit heroin, but easy for heroin to quit person!
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decimation: I can't keep the kde and gnome stuff straight
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm rather curious as to why you're fixing (for some value of that word - more akin to fixing up a corpse before burial, w/e) up a openbsd box when you've got your own gentoo 'fork'?
decimation: asciilifeform: every time I install rhel6 I have to spend 10 minutes de-poettering and de-gnoming it
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the never ending quest for a bed-ready computer?
mats: looks like an oversized nintendo ds
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mats: a handheld gaming console
mats: its fast approaching ten years of life, im surprised you don't know of it
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2014 01:14:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if you've information contradicting the stackoverflow question in question please say so. I'm in the middle of building a non-retarted linux distribution and would like to have Emacs as battle ready as possible by default.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, is there anything you consider absolutely essential for computing outside of CL+SLIME?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: does midnight commander have anything over dired?
decimation: asciilifeform: you don't compile the latest emacs 24?
decimation: I have been using org-mode to keep track of things, it's okay
decimation: I've definitely noticed that if I add external packages, it tends to make things very very slow
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gabriel_laddel: (re: Threaded Emacs, I've already walked that road - don't waste your time. Not going to happen and won't fix the underlying issues with Emacs anyways.)
decimation: asciilifeform: this came up yesterday with the global interpreter lock
decimation: the only alternative is a fine locking mechanism
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decimation: he has some highly amusing footnotes about how disappointed he is re:ibm & microshit monopoly
decimation: lol yeah I figured you would like that one
kakobrekla: well reading in bed and writing in bed arent the same thing.
decimation: asciilifeform: you would make a terrible do-o-crat
kakobrekla: lol. he is even worse than me, wont leave the bed.
decimation: you could send morse from a thigh-key to a terminal
kakobrekla: for me bed is hard to get in and hard to get out.
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gabriel_laddel: re in bed computing. is there something wrong with a bluetooth keyboard on the lap and a monitor that folds onto the ceiling?
decimation: I wish they made e-ink displays that updated at a reasonable frequency and were large
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: okay, so the monitor folds down with a usb keyboard in some sort of rack attached to it.
decimation: not to mention holding your arms on your lap (when lying down) would get tiring
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What about if the rest of the room rotates?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform have you thought about zero g, how will you think better in bed?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: nah, all over the place. But I only ever compute in bed while sitting.
decimation: you too can start a new life in the off world colonies
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but those problems have solutions! Except for the deadliest thing around is the trash problem.
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BingoBoingo thinks outlaw restaurants would be a decent theme for a trip around USia
decimation: I bet outlaw restaurants have good food too
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gabriel_laddel: "before 'the sheeple wake'" hmmm... I'm sorta under the impression that they're not ever going to wake. the thing with sheep is that they get tend to get slaughtered. after 5-10 years of living the life of American cattle the brain starts to deteriorate from lack of use. threaten them an all you get is pathetic bleating.
gabriel_laddel: "noooo mr. ss man, I was baaaah, a good baaah bah baaah citizen baaaah baaah"
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gabriel_laddel: "no, baaah, not my laambs!" "I paid my baaah taxes!" *bleating continues*
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gabriel_laddel: "It's a shame that taxpayers have to be on the hook for the criminal actions of their "servants" but it's still good when citizens let police know that there will be some consequences for rights violations."
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BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: But if they do wake, where to go?
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: dosen't matter really. have you met any American cattle? when the country fails they'll find themselves rejected everywhere / killed outright.
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BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I'm in the middle of the corral. As asciilifeform has mentioned earlier leaving is not easy.
decimation: lol apparently Illinois passed a law that makes it a felony to record a public official without consent
BingoBoingo: decimation: Illinois also sucks a big bag of dicks? What else is new?
PeterL: In response to the earlier talk of choosing a monarch, it made me think of the way the Mormon church chooses its leader:
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gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: of course it isn't easy. building Israel into somewhere you might actually want to live wasn't easy.
PeterL: current leader chooses people to fill vacancies in a 12 person council, those chosen serve for life
PeterL: when leader dies, the longest serving council member becomes new leader
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: this is however, a good thing. it will leave out the
PeterL: so to become king, you just have to outlive all the other leaders
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: A thing I am experiencing is when one rejects the local bezzel the local bezzel makes it hard to leave.
BingoBoingo: Unless one sufficiently accept the role of tame crank.
decimation: it's a good rule of thumb: states which require 'all-party' consent for recording are corrupt as hell
PeterL: my in-laws live in illinois, they always complain about the high taxes and lack of any visibile benefit from paying said taxes
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: You don't have to give up USD immediately if you leave the US.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: The one good thing Illinois has are roads downstate... Unless they are under construction.
decimation: PeterL: but the south side of chicago gets their reparations!
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Ah, but where to get USD outside of the bezzel!
PeterL: Illinois has obnoxios tollways too
PeterL: well, I only go up north
decimation: actually I wouldn't mind tollways if roads were fully privatized
decimation: Illinois just wants to charge thru-travelers extra tax
BingoBoingo: Missouri to Indiana or Kentucky to Iowa are toll free
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: come on. you're telling me that you can't set out for the promised land with 50k cash in your back pocket and be able to figure out some way to a) have bitcoin in the future and b) make enough USD now to live on?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I make efforts to acquire USD, but avoiding the honeytrap that is the drug business options are limited so I have a tent. Upon leaving with my budget first obstacle is the DEA's pet insecurity problem in Norther Mexico.
PeterL: why not go the other way, through Canada?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Sinaloa and Los Zetas didn't grow themselves
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I think you severely overestimate my USD denominated holdings
PeterL: powered paraglider? Fits in the back of a pick-up, fly across border?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right. so what I'm driving at is that one must make that destination himself.
BingoBoingo: PeterL: But can paraglider cross Darien without being commandeered for someone else's cause.
decimation: I doubt anyone will stop you if you just walk across the mighty Rio Grande
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: For reasonable definitions of fly, such that goal is permanent escape.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Poverty in USia is not just of money, also of passport
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: everything I've got to my name fits in two bags. I understand that ascii can't leave because of equipment, but that isn't the situation for most people.
BingoBoingo: Pending fucking misdemeanor disordely conduct charge which has been ongoing for quite some time.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: really now. you're unusable in, e.g., Israel?
decimation: BingoBoingo: maybe you can just ask for continuances until anyone who cares is gone?
BingoBoingo: But to seriously escape USia, even by land one needs a plan that cover not just the simple border crossing, but also the next hop to a candidate for a haven.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: and what do you mean by cannon fodder - 130k/yr slave?
BingoBoingo: decimation: That's the current strategy, but I'm tempted to take it to a jury next year finally
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: oh, lol. old fat guys can be perfectly good programmers.
decimation: all sorts of elites in the US (including government leaders) send their kids to server in the isreali army
BingoBoingo: Israel also for USian escapees also has the downside of being in orbit.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform is a person for whom programing is incidental to his other goals
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If USia disappears Israel probably becomes untenable as a state
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: really? because now they can't kill irritating brown people outright?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Because they can't repel all of their enemies. Israel has had a chronic ally shortage.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: hmmm. I don't know much about the situation there and will refrain from commenting on it.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I mean South Africa and Rhodesia were Israeli allies at one point, but...
PeterL: If US disappears, then many of the other US allies will be having problems, so will be unable to help Isreal
BingoBoingo: PeterL: And then there's the part where many US allies are explicitly not Israel allies
PeterL: What is the current relationship between Russia and Israel?
PeterL: Where's the wot chart for countries?
BingoBoingo: I dunno there real is a serious one. States are sluts. They all flirt with each other until someone gets the clap. Russia though does better business with Israel's neighbors.
gabriel_laddel: cazalla: consider this a request for a qntra article entitled "the promised land" with exit points: Russia, Israel, Argentina & China weighing the relative tradeoffs of each with the angle that the US is going to fail. things I'm interested in knowing about each territory: character of the rule of law, taxes, status of the tech scene, character of the gov., description of major cities, # of nuclear reactors and thei
gabriel_laddel: r locations, military prowess, unemployment rates / economic status, known quantities of natural resources, criminal character, ease of purchasing land, electricity etc. & interesting historical tidbits.
PeterL: and how much are you putting up on S.QNTR shares to pay for this book?
gabriel_laddel: PeterL: its just a request, he has 0 obligation to follow up on it.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If you have ideas you can submit a draft, but cazalla lives in a country where you can't get butter spreading devices without showing ID
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: "largely confined to an enclave of his own kind" how horrible....
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: absolutely correct. should be something more along the lines of "unemployment rate for skilled programmers".
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm not living among my own kind as it stands.
decimation: lol if the US suddenly disappeared Israel would destroy its enemies
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: exactly why it should be part of the "promised land" missive.
gabriel_laddel: decimation: lol if the US suddenly disappeared Israel would destroy its enemies << this is sorta the impression that I currently have.
kakobrekla: ascii so basically you dont want to get your hands dirty.
PeterL: Would that involve Israel expanding geographically?
kakobrekla: when shit is decomposed enough its dirt.
decimation: PeterL: if the us isn't around, who is going to stop them from expanding?
decimation: certainly not syria, or iraq, or saudi arabia, or jordan, or egypt
gabriel_laddel: 05:18 <kakobrekla> when shit is decomposed enough its dirt. << specifically referring to this.
PeterL: gabriel_laddel: maybe the metaphor has been stretched too far?
kakobrekla: well its how the world works! even shit can hide from entropy.
gabriel_laddel: PeterL: missed this line. <kakobrekla> ascii so basically you dont want to get your hands dirty.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: well, yes. I simply do not program anything other than Common Lisp. but because I can do this at $mylocation doesn't mean that there doesn't exist a soul in e.g., Russia who would be willing to pay me to do it.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: and interesting problems only ever happen in the us of a?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: For him the network to find them does atm
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so you're of the opinions that a) it isn't worth my time to network with people in other territories and b) usg is going to collapse?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: kk. I had somehow gotten the impression that you were of both opinions a & b, which I find odd.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm not one of those attempting to get you to emigrate and make the cardano in a jungle or w/e.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: right, however I seem to recall some #b-a persons attempting to convince you to leave the us for an actual jungle.
BingoBoingo: It's an option that may become feasible, but assuming it exists would be prematurely optimistic.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2014 20:25:59; asciilifeform: mats_cd03: depends on hypothetical destination. but, overall, just picture a figure large enough to 'become taleb' and live as 'gentleman scholar' in total disconnect from economic reality around you.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: yeah, difficult to get ahold of in bezzle land, which increasingly seems to prefer to "select a hero at random" (as per naggum).
assbot: Logged on 18-09-2014 16:53:26; asciilifeform: xmj: if i knew, i'd become a sysadmin.
decimation: BingoBoingo: what's even funnier is that pop culture is seen as a source of authority :)
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gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can't find the naggum article I referenced earlier, but anyways yes - the process of choosing a hero in the USSA isn't by any stretch of imagination random.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well pop culture is the garden where the regime grows expectations.
gabriel_laddel: work hard for your wealth and you'll be rewarded with pointless labor and millions of idiots nipping at your heels.
BingoBoingo: decimation: I mean you don't feed cattle fresh salads, you feed them silage from the corn that was too useful for them to eat.
gabriel_laddel: "nipping at your heels" was not the expression I wanted. something closer to "you can speak random alphanumeric strings at people and they'll nod and smile at you. speak in an angry tone and they'll frown and shake their heads, but this and 'liking' things is the extent of their expressive and intellectual capabilities"
Luke-Jr: so I have less than 24 hours to decide whether to purchase an ewe & ram with the ability to avoid a 5 hour drive… any opinions? :p
Luke-Jr: the reason I'd avoid a drive is that someone else in my area is picking up theirs
Luke-Jr: so I'd be giving them gas money to take mine with them or something
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Well sheep are more accustomed to being compelled between locations than other livestock, but they are still more fragile than the larger animals.
Luke-Jr: point is, they're travelling 2.5 hrs regardless :P
BingoBoingo: Well, make the other poor motherfuckers drive.
PeterL: asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally. << what? I thought you were co-founder of S.NSA, you don't own any of it?
BingoBoingo: Do you really want to drive a trailer with an angry ram
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: problem is, I don't have any crops planted for them to eat yet, and the fence isn't really setup ideally yet
BingoBoingo: What kind of Catholic isn't ready to be a Shepherd?
danielpbarron: 11:29 <+decimation> I bet outlaw restaurants have good food too << reminds me of a place nearby that used to have great food until the owner got ousted for tax evasion; under new management the food sucks
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: supposedly, I could have someone walk them until we figure out the fencing
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Well, what are kids for? Just make sure they have had their anthrax shots.
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: It's traditionally a woolcutter's disease.
Luke-Jr: hrm, that sounds scary. especially infection via eating the meat
Luke-Jr wonders if it can be tested
gabriel_laddel: PeterL: BingoBoingo why thank you, but I have nothing more to say tonight unless something interesting comes up or someone wishes to address me.
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: You may not have an interest in farm ailments, but if you farm they will be interested in you.
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davout: BingoBoingo: i think catholicism isn't too far from qualifying as a 'farm ailment'
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cazalla: gabriel_laddel: cazalla: consider this a request for a qntra article entitled... <<< good idea, noted.
cazalla: gabriel_laddel: PeterL: its just a request, he has 0 obligation to follow up on it. <<< ya, let the man share his ideas, no harm
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adlai: market wanna test new lows, eh? fuckaduck.
adlai: (not there yet, but looks like it's on its way)
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mike_c: thanks mats. i just threw up.
mike_c: ah, i meant the bug fights.
mike_c: is that one disgusting too? i'm not looking.
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ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i get paid to work on interesting problems. and, like other people who do this, it happens by cultivating relationships with people who have these problems. << this "work must be fun" trope again
kakobrekla: he is just caught in a local pain minimum.
mats: the bug fights are pretty cool.
mats: there's one where a scorpion lookin thing flips a wasp, pins it, and then kills it by eating his butt
mats: the wasp wins, actually
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mike_c: no way. gribble is confused.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00064784 = 10.6894 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: ;;calc (14 * 60) / (334722 - 334656)
mike_c: oh. hm. my apologies gribs.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13059 @ 0.00062252 = 8.1295 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 315.98, Best ask: 316.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 316.0, 24 hour volume: 22383.75456503, 24 hour low: 315.23, 24 hour high: 337.0, 24 hour vwap: 324.937974664
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 315.98, Best ask: 317.42, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 317.48, 24 hour volume: 22477.11534873, 24 hour low: 315.23, 24 hour high: 337.0, 24 hour vwap: 324.884551847
xanthyos: is that estimated percent change in difficulty in proportion to the price shift?
BingoBoingo: I think whoever suggestd shitty hardware dying is probably on to something
punkman: "Derived from the Ethereum protocol" because you can derive things from vaporware
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064453 = 5.1562 BTC [+]
undata: Luke-Jr: having read the threads on the gentoo bug tracker, you are confirmed as a slimy piece of shit.
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undata: Luke-Jr: are your patches included in mainline bitcoin by default?
undata: if not, explain why you tried to sneak them in by using your position as gentoo maintainer
undata: that's incredibly dishonorable
Luke-Jr: undata: I would reject them myself if anyone ever proposed merging to mainline
undata: then why are you fucking up gentoo for gentoo users like myself?
Luke-Jr: I didn't try to sneak anything in, the plan has been clearly published for months, and ensures nobody ever receives them without being aware
Luke-Jr: and it doesn't screw up anything
undata: ... "the plan has been established" << this is the passive-voice of banal evil
undata: Luke-Jr: you exclude services based on your opinion
Luke-Jr: spam != service; fact != opinion
undata: Luke-Jr: what constitutes "spam" is an opinion
undata: you are precisely the kind of dull mind I want nowhere near my money.
Luke-Jr: undata: perhaps, but in this case it is an opinion 100% of Bitcoin experts agree on
joecool: asciilifeform: he is the gentoo maintainer
undata: other gentoo folks bopped him on the head for trying to slime it in as default enabled
undata: Luke-Jr: which is again, incredibly dishonorable behavior
Luke-Jr: undata: not nearly as many as the Gentoo folks who encouraged it
Luke-Jr: undata: no, giving good defaults is not dishonourable.
joecool: asciilifeform: oh not the only one, just the one maintaining these ebuilds
undata: Luke-Jr: satoshi left out a feast; you are a fly crawling on it claiming it as your own.
undata: you clearly see it as "software thing I can hax on for great glory" and nothing more
undata: Luke-Jr: coward, who cannot handle being opposed.
Luke-Jr: reasoned opposition is one thing. trolling by making bogus FUD and claims of my intentions is another.
undata: no one gives a shit about your intentions
undata: it's the obvious consequences of your actions that are in question
Luke-Jr: obviously. you'd rather make them up, than give a crap what they really are.
Luke-Jr: there are no negative consequences.
joecool: undata: you just don't get the Tonal System do you
keystroke: now if only my WoT pgp key was not on another continent...
keystroke: ah at the moment i am traveling in india
keystroke: mined back in 2009 for a bit and then from 2011 to late 2012
keystroke: i was checking MP's blog and thought i should come here to get into the WoT as i thought i had registered back in the day but never made any transactions
keystroke: just for the general fun of supporting the cryptoanarchist ethos ;)
gribble: User 'keystroke', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1o1BcShERS9B7nqfc9aGb7C3ns7gcicBn, registered on Sat Oct 6 11:50:59 2012, last authed on Sat Oct 6 08:53:40 2012.
http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=keystroke . Currently not authenticated.
keystroke: i suppose i can auth by signing a message with the private key of that bitcoin address?
joecool: keystroke: yes, you never registered with gpg
joecool: only a btc addr, so provided you still control the private key for that address, you should be able to auth
keystroke: i never delete private keys but that wallet is in cold storage so i will just recreate with a different identity and start anew as the old one never had any reputation anyway :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6944 @ 0.00064453 = 4.4756 BTC [+]
joecool: as you wish, though you won't be able to corroborate your story of registering and being in the community early on if you do that, if that matters to you at all
keystroke: i can just sign something with addresses from coins mined in 2009 though ;)
keystroke: that should give me enough cred :P
keystroke: i am glad to see a crypto only reputation system here
keystroke: actually being taken seriously that is
kakobrekla: are those coins still sitting on the same address they were mined on?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16456 @ 0.00060286 = 9.9207 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: then you cant really prove anything about those coins.
keystroke: well by signing with both keys you can prove you held the keys when they were generated and currently control them
keystroke: but i think the main idea is to prove generation keys anyway as the idea is to establish an early position rather than a certain size of bitcoin holdings which is ideally kept mostly private
gribble: User 'keystrike', with keyid CCCD74D054734EC6, fingerprint 282E81F4CB3F454E8C40F95ECCCD74D054734EC6, and bitcoin address None, registered on Wed Dec 17 15:18:15 2014, last authed on Wed Dec 17 15:18:15 2014.
http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=keystrike . Currently authenticated from hostmask keystroke!~keystroke@unaffiliated/keystroke . CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick.
keystroke: yea the idea is to establish trust by trading anyway
joecool: i wonder if we'll ever see a market of people acquiring old keys....
mike_c: you keystrike or keystroke?
keystroke: i reregged as keystrike as i figure the keystroke identity can't be proven anymore as i never registered with pgp and that address is not accessible at this location
kakobrekla: ;;rate keystrike 1 for the purpose of #b-a voice
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user keystrike has been recorded.
keystroke: design flaw in interrupt return... nice
keystroke: nothing like the old f00f c7c8 intel bug
keystroke: compare and exchange 8 bytes and die
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00063331 = 2.3749 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13913 @ 0.00063331 = 8.8112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12629 @ 0.00062081 = 7.8402 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: "bitcoin experts" oh my sides
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.0006357 = 6.4841 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1298 @ 0.00449537 = 5.835 BTC [+] {4}
undata: ben_vulpes: what a crock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00063662 = 3.1379 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13640 @ 0.00063343 = 8.64 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2405 @ 0.00064671 = 1.5553 BTC [+]
TomServo: Nah, you can just grab the torrent when 'GOP' release their 'christmas surprise' :P
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