mircea_popescu: ten years of trying late.rt
asciilifeform: but ten years of who..
mircea_popescu: supposedly some of the original crew at least for part of it
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: the folks who couldn't crack the wallnut in the first try.
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1BM4C5Y.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjNHIe )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 1.88363783 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 37 satoshi per share
asciilifeform: briefly back to that thread: the only way to have a channel where any possible bits are correctly drawable on a terminal, is to put the control codes (which move the cursor, or flip colours, or ring fucking bells, or release guillotine blade, or whatnot) on ~another~ channel.
asciilifeform: tertium non datur.
asciilifeform: naggum has umpteen threads where he fights with various folks over xml attributes
asciilifeform: which he regarded (having had the misfortune to play a part in creating!) as a similar kind of retardation
asciilifeform: separation of structure and content is hard (and questionably doable at all)
mircea_popescu: how did he end up playing a part ?
mircea_popescu: aha!
asciilifeform: he was on the sgml brigade.
mircea_popescu: that's what im leading to. how do you know it's possible.
asciilifeform: we... don't.
asciilifeform: and, as perpetuum mobile, all attempts at doing the fundamentally impossible are bound to end in tears
asciilifeform: of one kind or other.
mircea_popescu: so then why are we having this discussion.
asciilifeform: because,
asciilifeform: pointing out that unix will let us work with an arbitrary bitstring,
asciilifeform: but if you allow that it is to be ~ever~ a displayable string,
asciilifeform: you're in for a world of turd.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 109.97017252 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 21 satoshi per share
asciilifeform: if it is permissible to say ~it is never displayable~, then you have an ordinary bin format, e.g., 'gzip'
asciilifeform bbl, eating
mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3HC5S7V.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TH46Gc )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
mircea_popescu: dat mpoe graph
BingoBoingo: http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/columbia-man-in-confederate-flag-fight-gives-his-side-rebel/article_17d3f082-412e-11e5-89a8-9b3d1bdc1f58.html
assbot: Columbia man in Confederate flag fight gives his side; ‘Rebel runs’ hit Lancaster | Local News | lancasteronline.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1TH4epe )
BingoBoingo: https://reason.com/blog/2015/08/11/campus-rape-expert-who-misrepresented-hi
assbot: Campus Rape Expert Who Misrepresented His Work Faces Powerful New Criticism - Hit & Run : Reason.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjO8ST )
mircea_popescu: as if there exists anyone in the verbiage side of the us who doesn't, as a principal actiuvity, misrepresent their work.
mircea_popescu: all they do is talk about what they did. that supposedly isn't talking about what they did, so necessarily they gotta be misrepresentin'.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, I misrepresent Qntra to fellow USians as mowing lawns
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: "acclaimed expert on the subject of campus sexual assault"
mircea_popescu: wait. what ?!
mircea_popescu: how is this a subject and who acclaimed when ?
BingoBoingo: He came up with the "all campus rapes are drink drugging serial offenders" theory
mircea_popescu: anyway, at issue in the "cultural revolution" camp is getting rid of the inconvenient theory that rape is rare and rapists few
BingoBoingo: And this article is a woman saying nope
mircea_popescu: they would like all men to be rapists and all interaction rape, at least "to some degree"
BingoBoingo: "microaggressions"
mircea_popescu: thus every man and every interaction requiring something like a permission slip from... well..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00072653 = 7.3016 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: but i do appreciate the significant increase in discoursive vitriol.
BingoBoingo remembers owning a perhaps poor translation of the communist manifesto that suggested ho trains as a replacement for marriage.
mircea_popescu: "he is guilty, he reprsented his research as relevant!"
mircea_popescu: exactly what mary whatsername will be hanged from.
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure we are going to run out of trees
mircea_popescu: only need 15 tree-minutes per.
BingoBoingo: I thought we were going to skip the rope and hang them by the anal spincter until they bleed out or starve. I'll have to redo my forest evaluations and my Forrest evaluations.
BingoBoingo pretty sure this time it was ascii who recommended butt pikes for Hearnias including a recommendation for a particular species of pine
BingoBoingo: !s pine
assbot: 46 results for 'pine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00073234 = 7.0671 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Maybe I am just old and slipping
BingoBoingo: Re: Bob Beck and the MicroShaft revolving door: http://philippinefailblog.com/little-miss-take-dating-in-manila/
assbot: Little Miss Take: Dating In Manila | Philippines Fail BlogPhilippines Fail Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1DTXFOl )
BingoBoingo: "There were 2 puppies that often came to our home to sleep in the shade. I thought they were wild dogs. I gave them milk or water. Well about 1 week later one puppy was dead in front of our gate. We found out the dogs belonged to our next door neighbor. There were many kids laughing around the dead body so we asked the neighbor to remove the dog for us. She said in a while we are preparing dinner. Then a few days later we noticed
BingoBoingo: she ran over the other puppy in her driveway killing it too."
BingoBoingo: "They can’t look after themselves. These are extremely lazy freeloaders that have no concept of things or any initiative. They say it’s their culture but it’s simply a freeloading lazy exploitative narcissistic mentality, a kind prostitution and uncivilized behavior. "
BingoBoingo: I can tell you the worst in all of this they don’t consider me at all or what I want even though I’m paying, that’s the worst of it
BingoBoingo: ^When facing such a Bob Beck, best not to be the paying Theo
hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-08-2015#1235149 << for the record i bungled this, built a (seemingly working nevertheless) frankenstein patch-quilt (dnsseed_snipsnip, thermonyukyoolar_kleansing, kills-integer-retardation, ver_now_5_4_endless_name_string, zap_hardcoded_seeds, showmyip_crud, if anyone's interested).☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 19:12:55; hanbot: shinohai: hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o << nein. have built stator "manually" as of last night, tho still need to verify runs as expected, after which will put together notes. have not pogo-ed, rotor trial to come. (ubuntu 10.04 32bit + mod6's gracious help)
hanbot: i had tabs of "patches to apply" open for two weeks in a mess of others, it got nice and fucked up meanwhile and i hadn't reverified before patching, hurrdurr. yest rebuilt with correct sequence (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209307 ), looks good, notes tonight.☝︎
mircea_popescu: i tell you, the expectation that people will do what you tell them is widely misplace.
mircea_popescu: most people aren't even equipped to comprehend what's being said.
mircea_popescu: "A month later I get a text asking me to invest in her business." right.
punkman: "Im dating a girl for over a year. During this period I pay for flights, hotels, food, clothing, gifts for family, medicine, doctors, taxis, coco juice…basically everything. 100s of thousands of pesos. During this time I wasn’t treated to a single drink, not even a glass of water. She’s obsessed with selfies and facebook."
punkman: so after declining 11 times, he fell for it?
mircea_popescu: "#10. I date a girl for 6 months. We get on fine. She texts me and asks for nearly 70000pesos for house deposit for her and her gay friend who are both house hunting. She says she and friend will pay it back to me the very next day. I decline. She tells me I’m dumped."
mircea_popescu: bwhahaah win.
mircea_popescu: dude's a naive twerp. you put them to work.
mircea_popescu: who ever heard of this bs.
punkman: http://philippinefailblog.com/my-experience-dating-a-filipina/ even bigger chump
assbot: My Experience Dating A Filipina | Philippines Fail BlogPhilippines Fail Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1IUfuJY )
punkman: "I’ve asked to her to not leave candy wrappers on the bed or food on the counter as I find hundreds of ants when she does but she does anyway."
mircea_popescu: date a filipino chick ; not make her clean up your house. wtf ?!
mircea_popescu: it's almost like dating a mexican and not making him do your gardening.
mircea_popescu: woman married to a pole with a leaky toilet. wtf people!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00073004 = 14.0898 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: good god this just goes on and on. heh.
mircea_popescu: ironically, the phillipines were a great place before being "progressed". so... expect it in maryland.
asciilifeform: hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239446 << any particular reason for the omissions, or mistake ?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 00:54:40; hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-08-2015#1235149 << for the record i bungled this, built a (seemingly working nevertheless) frankenstein patch-quilt (dnsseed_snipsnip, thermonyukyoolar_kleansing, kills-integer-retardation, ver_now_5_4_endless_name_string, zap_hardcoded_seeds, showmyip_crud, if anyone's interested).
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239466 << to paraphrase william gibson re: 'future' - it is ~already~ in maryland, 'just not evenly distributed'☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 01:39:37; mircea_popescu: ironically, the phillipines were a great place before being "progressed". so... expect it in maryland.
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-26253 << lol at some dude. is this a new alt of an old scammer or wut.
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1heNvhq )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00073003 = 20.4773 BTC [-] {5}
hanbot: asciilifeform bad hygiene on my part. by the time i'd gotten the release to build my tabs "saved for later when patching" were a mess, and i didn't re-check.
asciilifeform: ah
asciilifeform: can use 'orchestra' if you're satisfied with mod6's verification thereof, or care to conduct own
asciilifeform: it has all mainline patches released to date.
asciilifeform: (in the case of rel1, literally; in the case of rel2-pre - all that have been proposed for that release)
asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
asciilifeform: incitatus is back.
asciilifeform: (in the unlikely event anyone missed it!)
asciilifeform: zoolag
asciilifeform: damn it
asciilifeform: zoolag is back.
asciilifeform: incitatus, old piece of shit, was not the subject of this story.
hanbot: <asciilifeform> can use 'orchestra' if you're satisfied with mod6's verification thereof, or care to conduct own << likely will try it out, yeah.
asciilifeform: http://www.krivosheev.ru/1-HTML/Svejkovina/Nohavica/Sekne-context.html << i nominate for prize, 'worst translation on the planet'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1heRbQe )
phf: hehe
phf: vkontakte-friendly translation methodology
asciilifeform: 'The laziness I witnessed just from her was shocking. One of the homes we rented was so disgustingly filthy when we arrived. My immediate response was to get to it and clean. The appliances were brown and greasy and under them was even worse. I began to move furniture and wash the floors, clean washrooms etc. and scrubbing film off the floors and tiles while she was spread out on the couch watching movies. I was furious about
asciilifeform: the condition of the place because the previous tenants were her sister and family members that had lived there and left it in this condition. My girlfriend threw our food in no particular order in the cupboards and fridge. I noticed thousands of red ants all over the counter and in the cupboards. Once I removed the food products I noticed thousands more and ant eggs all over. I asked her to get off her ass to help she wiped a
asciilifeform: few shelves but missed many. I am paying for all of this for her and her 2 siblings and assuming most of the responsibility for everything else. She leaves lights on, fridge door open which is already a piece of junk, food gets wasted, and drinks’ aren’t cold, she takes no initiative and wonders why I am angry with her all the time.' << win
asciilifeform: why, one wonders, did he not fuck a pig instead
asciilifeform: cheaper.
punkman: whole blog is full of complaining about girlfriends/wives
asciilifeform: 'Furnished means rat infested and this is not an exaggeration either w/ dirty linen, leaky gas lines etc. We ran out of a fresh tank of gas only in a few days and kept seeing a rat in our unit. We couldn’t find him until one day, living in our sofa. We heard him nightly and found droppings. It wasn’t until I tore apart the bottom of the sofa to find him there. By the way this is considered an upscale area and where there a
asciilifeform: re many foreign men supporting the women here. This rat was probably living here years without any Filipinos tenants being disturbed by any of this.' << am i missing something
asciilifeform: or is the allegation here that rats somehow live on leaking gas ?
asciilifeform: or am i alone in expecting a paragraph to stick to a subject.
punkman: "the previous tenants were her sister and family members"
punkman: maybe pet rat
asciilifeform: at least they've invented sport crucifixion !
asciilifeform: who said philippines were worthless.
asciilifeform: aficionados - straight to 'google images'.
punkman: oh like self-flagellation?
asciilifeform: mno
asciilifeform: crucifixion.
asciilifeform: with nails.
punkman: I mean in that spirit
asciilifeform: (they take'em down at the end of the day, sure.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58750 @ 0.00070469 = 41.4005 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: 'BLARNEY is the leading source of FISA collection, producing over 11,000 reports and is consistently a top contributor to the President's Daily Brief. The program contributes to over 60% of product reporting to the Counterterrorism product line and over 80% of the overall FAA reporting.'
asciilifeform: ( https://cryptome.org/2015/08/nsa-sso-fair-storm-blar-nyt-propub-15-0814.pdf )
asciilifeform: ^ no ocr available atm
asciilifeform: ^ lengthy turd concerning 'corporate partners' (telecom stoolies et al)
phf: i saw hook suspension as part of religious ceremony in souther india, they put a lot more showmanship into the whole process then u.s. bdsm crowd. between music, dancing and the general revelry, it's very impressive
mircea_popescu is sad that the imbecile "sane stupid and consensual" crowd has managed to make bdsm appear a sort of roadshow discipline, with all the other circus acts.
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/Iio16dQ.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1heV7jM )
mats: this filipino shit is unreadable
mats: and this writer is supposedly from canada
mircea_popescu: check it out the midwest doesn't existest.
punkman: hook suspension is more related to the bmezine crowd than bdsm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this particular item mainly infests cable drop sites and nearby
asciilifeform: (oceanic fiber)
mircea_popescu: punkman still, what came to his mind. and i know why the fuck it came to his mind, too.
asciilifeform: why?
mircea_popescu: because i've personally seen the sorts of fucktards who derp about how they're doing bdsm
phf: there's little difference between bmezine crowd and bdsm in u.s., see also mp's comment
mircea_popescu: exactly like "hackers"
phf: i've seen people do hook suspension at the same events they would fly volunteers, there's very little dynamic there besides "ropes! pain!"
mircea_popescu: buncha turdheads dont even KNOW each other
scoopbot_revived: Dutch Police Hunt For "Bitcoin Bomber" http://qntra.net/2015/08/dutch-police-hunt-for-bitcoin-bomber/
mircea_popescu: then they spend weeks penning diatribes on fetlife/wherever derping about who "violated" whose trust
asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/sPMkDgY.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1heVN8Z )
mircea_popescu: "hey, i just agreed to be tied up naked by some guy i don't know, this doesn't mean he can also finger me!!111"
mircea_popescu: sort of byzantine quibbling
mircea_popescu: re the entire blarney thing : if my reports mostly consisted of who said what to whom behind whose back i'd just turn the whole shit off and go watch soaps. no fucking idea how it is that obama's not worried by mostly being fed blarney.
mircea_popescu: but hey, a country of slutmint, right. whatchagonnerdo.
asciilifeform: idk about mircea_popescu but i'm reading it, as the other snowdeniana, as hangout
asciilifeform: heavily censored, and selective to begin with
mircea_popescu: i'm not reading it.
asciilifeform: peppered with 'legalisms'
mircea_popescu: mats you don't dispute there's entire communities centered around living off derpy middle aged usian males do you ?
mats: mircea_popescu no dispute lol
asciilifeform: aaaaaand they're both done: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D9C5494A7B03BBA6E8699AF3EBACA1A2E3ED77906921EB829571A5AEF2623FBC
asciilifeform: (but not mega-surprise)
asciilifeform: 'Dutch police claimed the perpetrator created a letter in Notepad which was then mailed to the Jumbo supermarket chain demanding that unless an unknown quantity of bitcoin was paid to him, the attacks would continue.' << wat
asciilifeform: and did i just count no less than ~3~ msword .doc turds in that thing.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, http://40.media.tumblr.com/fbf322a08d68c2bc50a5a7429c88dba8/tumblr_nny2p7Td6e1s2ykobo1_500.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1heYHuu )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68700 @ 0.00070275 = 48.2789 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform got 4th node, 'bucephalus', physically ready. but it still gotta be transported.
hanbot: bucephalus! can we send it oats?
asciilifeform: soon.
asciilifeform: incitatus also likes oats
pete_dushenski: top o' the evening !
phf: i know what bdsm scene needs. more 20 year old girls who are doms.
phf ducks
pete_dushenski: like you need two penises
mats: I've read good things about having two penises
mats: thanks, reddit
phf: one in each hand
pete_dushenski: mats you've also read about the merits of usgavin's noble for the community on reddit.
pete_dushenski: reddit has all the merit of the national enquirer and about as much believability
cazalla: asciilifeform, yeah there are few docs with a time line of events etc, nothing that isn't in the text of the article anyway
pete_dushenski: "bat boy in favour of block size increase !"
asciilifeform: cazalla: wai wat
mats: https://reddit.com/r/tabled/comments/1u7f50/table_iama_i_am_the_guy_with_two_penises_ama
assbot: [Table] IAmA: I am the guy with two penises. AMA. : tabled ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf0gsc )
mats: if you haven't already seen, ^
pete_dushenski: had not.
pete_dushenski: can't say i'm gonna click but hey, logs readers appreciate this kinda closing of the loop
cazalla: asciilifeform, i was responding to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239551 , unless you were referring to something else with *.doc in it☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 03:45:14; asciilifeform: and did i just count no less than ~3~ msword .doc turds in that thing.
phf: pete_dushenski: fyi batty boy is gay man in creole
asciilifeform: ah
pete_dushenski: phf i can see it : batty = crazy = unorthodox
phf: pete_dushenski: i always thought that's from "butt", but i like your theory too
pete_dushenski: pretty much how you get alan turing
pete_dushenski: http://en.mercopress.com/2015/08/13/argentine-minister-s-daughter-26-board-member-of-main-development-bank << how you get this is altogether another matter
assbot: Argentine minister's daughter, 26, board member of main development bank — MercoPress ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf0PCp )
phf: i had a Jamaican friend who would scare white people on campus by trash talking them in patois
pete_dushenski: ^putting a 26-yo whose never tied her own shoelaces in charge of a bank is batty for a reason
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i bet if it were an elected post, she'd win
pete_dushenski: phf: patois is interesting for its composition and
asciilifeform: because if nothing matters anyway, why not have photo of hot chick on the tube, instead of old man
pete_dushenski: phf ...and i have to say i found it sorta fascinating when i was in jamaica in february
asciilifeform: rather surprised this hasn't reached gringolandia quite yet
asciilifeform: here they seem to plan to elect an old hag
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: at the federal level, yes.
asciilifeform: but i'd vote for delfina whatthefuck, aha
asciilifeform: if she were here.
pete_dushenski: at the more local/state level, this phenomenon has spread here, particularly in the last provincial election
pete_dushenski: as covered in http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/
assbot: A not-so-new era begins in Alberta politics. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf1qDY )
pete_dushenski: elected school teachers with two years of experience, etc.
pete_dushenski: it's going about as well as you'd expect
pete_dushenski: folks already swinging back to the left for the upcoming federal election in ~9 weeks from now
pete_dushenski: *back to the right
mircea_popescu: phf couldn't hurt, actually.
mircea_popescu: the "more 20something dom chicks" that is.
phf: i should've put quotes around dom, but without being facetious, i agree, that would've been nice
mircea_popescu: anything that isn't the current crop would be great, really.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: careful with that 'anything other than this' approach. it's arguably what put us in this entire mess to begin with.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
pete_dushenski: 'anything other than racist computers'
mircea_popescu: i was using it ironically.
pete_dushenski: aha
mircea_popescu: for much metairony points
mircea_popescu: arguably - meta got us in this entire mess.
pete_dushenski: meta was necessary to maintain the linear ascent of the usians from the previous 3 generations into this last one
asciilifeform: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/tech-firm-ubiquiti-suffers-46m-cyberheist << awwww poor buggerz
asciilifeform: !s ubiquiti
assbot: 21 results for 'ubiquiti' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ubiquiti
pete_dushenski: after china chewed the production meat off of the us' flesh, that is
mircea_popescu: what already ?
pete_dushenski: "Basically, employees have to drill into their head that email is not secure. Period! If you recieve email from your boss that you need to wire somebody $$, just tell him/her to at least phone you to verify who they are."
asciilifeform: http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/10/technology/ubiquiti-hacked
assbot: Hackers siphon $47 million out of tech company's accounts - Aug. 10, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2DeL )
mircea_popescu: holy shit
pete_dushenski: ^from the comments of 1st piece
asciilifeform: 'A hacker posed as one of its employees online and stole $46.7 million from the company's accounts.'
asciilifeform: gold.
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/2VHN7BA << anyone seen this sortta shit before ?
assbot: dpaste: 2VHN7BA ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2Kqp )
mircea_popescu: is it some new security model ? comma separated security or something ?
pete_dushenski: funny, same thing happened to me
pete_dushenski: i just beleeted the first part and all was well
asciilifeform: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/05/security-firm-redefines-apt-african-phishing-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-381684
assbot: Security Firm Redefines APT: African Phishing Threat — Krebs on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf2UhJ )
asciilifeform: ask him, not me.
pete_dushenski: 'the latest from Comma Security Industries'
phf: misconfigured nginx
asciilifeform: herr krebs is a huminter not a siginter
asciilifeform: can forgive.
asciilifeform: 'What you can infer here (since Ubiquiti won’t comment) is that the scammers spoofed an employee communication from a fake email account, instructing an employee to wire funds to a “vendor.” In its laziest form, it’s an attack that anyone could mount with an Internet connection and about 5 minutes — the B2B version of the old “Nigerian prince” email fraud, except the prince purports to be your boss.'
mircea_popescu: unless the boss himself did it, and is claiming hack.
asciilifeform: no shit.
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: it's a fundamental flaw of the entire non-ba corporate model, and it's unfixable.
asciilifeform did not really consider any other variant seriously
mircea_popescu: like all the oithers.
pete_dushenski: phf if you're interested in my take on the patois-speakers on their home turf, you might be interested in http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/15/emancipation-shemancipation-independence-shmindependence/ or http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/14/the-world-is-fundamentally-hostile/
assbot: Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf3nAq )
assbot: The world is fundamentally hostile. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf3lIQ )
asciilifeform: my personal favourite hypothesis is that the 47 megatonnes is an nsa-levied fine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00071422 = 10.3919 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: for lackluster concealment of the diddle discussed in february
asciilifeform: (why not the nsa levying secret fines !!1111!!11 i oughta patent!)
pete_dushenski: dat mpoe. seriously.
phf: pete_dushenski: i've read it, didn't answer most important question, how was the beach?
pete_dushenski: phf fuck, beats me.
pete_dushenski: i'm not really the beach type
phf: ah, my impression is that there's fuck else to do in places like that.
pete_dushenski: i won't pretend like there's a nightlife worth the bother, but i went biking, played tennis, drank several bottles of ginger wine daily
phf: i went to costa rica recently, bad food, bad services, one city for the whole country which essentially consists of 5 street blocks of what i would recognize as a city. but the beach was nice, can rent a boat and go diving, etc.
pete_dushenski: san jose is a dump
pete_dushenski: the pacific coast of costa rica is gorgeous, however. monkeys swinging from trees, perfect sand, a wide variety of ex pats
pete_dushenski: the caribbean coast is beautiful in a different way, being more tropical, lush, and mysterious
phf: we went to the nicest restaurant i could find after a week of casados, waiter was reading silverware placement of a cheat sheet, and the chicken was undercooked. it was almost comic
pete_dushenski: and speaking of travels, i'm currently crafting an article on my recent trip to the dollar store here
phf: in san jose
pete_dushenski: lol a silverware cheat sheet. that's pretty embarrassing
pete_dushenski: not enough colonialism i guess
pete_dushenski: My investment is more than a million dollars for the factory here. But during these two years I’ve lost a lot. It’s all the problem of labor—the mentality of the workers. Our factory needs to run twenty-four hours a day; it’s not just for one shift. In order to do this in Egypt, we have to hire male workers, and the men are really lazy.”
pete_dushenski: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/learning-to-speak-lingerie
assbot: The Chinese Lingerie Venders of Egypt - The New Yorker ... ( http://bit.ly/1hf4wIm )
pete_dushenski: egyptians can't be bothered to lift a finger, it seems
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63463 @ 0.00072219 = 45.8323 BTC [+] {5}
pete_dushenski: and greece just snagged a 86 bn euro loan with a 32.5 yr maturity at 1% interest
mircea_popescu: phf where ? san jose ?
scoopbot_revived: Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/
mircea_popescu: nuts, i liked san jose a decade ago.
mircea_popescu: dude no way. wtf where've you been
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski see, totally worth it to ignore the oxi. where else are tyhey gonna find 80bn for 30 years for free.
phf: san jose reminded me of moscow in the 90s, grown men in track suits selling apples out of cardboard boxes, old women selling roasted something or other, all in the middle of a busy street
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta dig up my pictures from there or something.
mircea_popescu: anyway. you found the nice indian restaurant with the peacocks roaming in the garden ?
mats: sounds like the Mexican side of the Tijuana border, phf
mircea_popescu: it's not really that far off.
mircea_popescu couldn't stand the coasts, way too hot and humid. the city itself is a very pleasant weather.
phf: yeah, mexico city was similar in places
mats: on that note, was just in ensenada a few weeks ago, great time to be there -- mostly just locals this time of year
mircea_popescu: or did you find the casino & brothel quarter ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i did not, i should've asked for recommendations ahead of time, come to think of it, i don't know spanish
mircea_popescu: dun tell me you hung out with the expats in retard quarter.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu phf the three of us should have a costa rica photo comparison event
mircea_popescu: i doubt you can beat my teat lunch.
mats: but hard to shake the eyeballs as a couple of asians strolling around town
phf: mircea_popescu: retard quarter i assume is around the hospital area?
mircea_popescu: btw, were the "los ninos merecen tang" ads still around ?
mircea_popescu: phf you can't miss it, there's a bunch of mcd kfc etc. only place in town they even exist.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, site:trilema.com costa rica turns out a bunch of stuff
mircea_popescu: phf does the san jose horseshoe still stand btw ?
mircea_popescu: lulz of all time, it was the size of the parking lot shed of the original one.
phf: don't remember the ads, but i don't think so
phf: what's san jose horseshoe?
phf: how long ~did~ you stay in san jose?
mircea_popescu: a soi dissant casino
mircea_popescu: like 3 years.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59550 @ 0.00072229 = 43.0124 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: originally was gonna stay for a coupla weeks, but we liked it that much.
phf: we must've stayed in two different san joses, but i stayed for two days, after a week on the coast, so my expectations were already skewed
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you didn't go to san jose alone ?
mircea_popescu: now i don't know for sure what you do etc, but the restaurants of the city've been unfairly impeached. they've nothing starred, is true, but there plenty good ones.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i've not gone anywhere alone, including the bathroom, since i was about 15 or so.
pete_dushenski: don't tell me you're so rich you have a 'wiper'
pete_dushenski can only dream
mircea_popescu: no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted.
pete_dushenski can also only dream of this
gernika: following up on the reddit/hearnia thread: Holy shit I can't believe hearnia wrote this: "...Bitcoin social contract.." It's just ... unbelievable.
hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned
assbot: Build Notes: “Manual” Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 | The Whet ... ( http://bit.ly/1THCNvm )
mircea_popescu: phf you ever found the weirdo one that was "painting themed" so they'd bring you the food on like, that silly wooden thing painters hold to mix paints etc ?
mircea_popescu: gernika which is why he'd be doing it.
pete_dushenski: gernika: what else would rousseau say ?
gernika: I'm just trying to imagine life from the perspective of someone who could read that and buy it. A Trilema article mast seem like a solid, impenetrable brick wall.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239715 << congrats hanbot !☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 05:03:59; hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned
pete_dushenski: hanbot: nice, clean work on the ubuntu build
mircea_popescu: well, gernika, it's for tablets.
gernika: mircea_popescu: medium?
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, i yield. in the small shore towns all they have is casados, which is not something i expected after shore towns in other countries with rich sea food cuisine. so my first experience in the big city is a cheat sheet silverware and undercooked chicken for the girl. at that point i, and i agree, unfairly, assumed that they just don't like food.
mircea_popescu: ahhh
mircea_popescu: i can see it. but you know, sj is like what, 2-3 mn ?
phf: all eating casados, i'm sure
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what that is, honestly.
mircea_popescu: "homecooking" or something ?
phf: yeah, beans, rice, chicken, plantains on a plate. they are pretty much an item on every small roadside place menu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread with bizarre made-up terminology: consider 'drapetomania'
mats: I read some of dreppers 'what every programmer should know about memory' recently
mircea_popescu: they had very decent steaks i tell you
mats: pretty good
mircea_popescu: best mexican restaurant i ever found was in cr
asciilifeform: mats: it was, interestingly
asciilifeform: mats: drepper is not a talentless man. if he were, he'd be harmless.
asciilifeform: mats: i have that article printed and bound, on a shelf (or... had. iirc it grew legs, wandered away)
phf: i can believe about a steak, and i think it would've been a safe bet to go to a steakhouse, but after a week of diving and swimming i'm not usually in the mood for heavier foods
mircea_popescu: yes, well, you dont want meat and don't like veggies. it's getting hard to feed you :D
mircea_popescu: i think they had a milk bar, funnily enough.
mircea_popescu: never ended up going
phf: hah
punkman: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000147.html some random stuff I noticed
assbot: [BTC-dev] some notes after reading the source ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaRoy7 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00073002 = 29.2738 BTC [+] {6}
mats: asciilifeform: my 'aha' moment was when he explains how locality in memory should be used to optimize cache access
asciilifeform: mats: it's pretty humdrum, nothing we didn't do in school
asciilifeform: but useful to give to n00bs
asciilifeform: which is where i think my copy went.
pete_dushenski: hanbot: your stator build didn't get wedged even though you didn't add the asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.patch ?
asciilifeform: punkman: nice work, and overlaps heavily with my own notes. but gotta understand why i did not make these cuts as of yet.
punkman: well hopefully you won't have to do all those and can focus on more important things
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the wedge point would take about a week to reach, at typical pace, if starting from nil
gernika: asciilifeform: took my openbsd box 4 weeks
asciilifeform: punkman: recall mircea_popescu's comment about 'father's pistols'
asciilifeform: it is one thing to snip provably unreachable code
asciilifeform: a very other thing to cut messages
asciilifeform: not that we actually need 'checkorder' for anything
phf: mircea_popescu: i was expecting fresh seafood, it being a coastal country, easily available. oaxaca and guerrero for example had fish markets all over the shore.
asciilifeform: nor do i have much desire to replace anything whatsoever with boostisms
asciilifeform: (re: json comment)
asciilifeform: try to remember the basic reason why we're using 0.5.3 as foundation rather than starting from empty.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00073003 = 29.7852 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: it is a steaming pile of shit, but has one saving grace: it existed prior to the war.
asciilifeform: prior to bitcoin being dear.
phf: i remember a bar in old san juan, and their bar food selection consisted of a spicy soup and oysters. i'm pretty sure those were best oysters i've had
asciilifeform: punkman: this does not mean that it can't be cut. i've been cutting it. but it has to be cut like a living thing.
asciilifeform: with care.
asciilifeform bbl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168907 @ 0.00073298 = 123.8055 BTC [+] {8}
ben_vulpes: so defadvice is rms's wacky clos?
thestringpuller: So we get censored in reddit and get called crazy.
thestringpuller: Hearn's article gets censored and all the tards lose their shit.
ben_vulpes: ahyu, link, thestringpuller?
thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/01/its-easy-to-call-us-a-tiny-minority-when-you-engage-in-vote-manipulation/ << our censorship
thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h5kr6/why_is_bitcoin_forking/cu4fhny << they posted hearns article and it got "removed" in a similar fashion (blatant removal rather than manipulation)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8170 @ 0.00072149 = 5.8946 BTC [-] {2}
thestringpuller: top 25 posts now are all about block size limit...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13130 @ 0.00071546 = 9.394 BTC [-]
phf: ben_vulpes: no, this https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/eieio/ is emacs's whacky clos. i think advice is a separate lineage, by way of interlisp. there's defadvice in lispworks for example
assbot: Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects: Top ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaSwSl )
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239712 <<< ah, so you do have a kagero!☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 05:02:25; mircea_popescu: no, i'm such an asshole i have to have my food tasted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42230 @ 0.00073671 = 31.1113 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: phf: how'd they land on 'EIEIO'?
punkman: yeah, why not aiaiaiaaiaia?
phf: ben_vulpes: i think the madness comes with trying to do clos in elisp :>
ben_vulpes: i try to only use it as a scripting language for my 'editor'
ben_vulpes: but brainfuck exists so why not clos in elisp
ben_vulpes: reddit ssl is confuckered to use sha-1
ben_vulpes: well done, chaps
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23008 @ 0.00074101 = 17.0492 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00074096 = 29.8607 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.00072624 = 46.9151 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24751 @ 0.00075045 = 18.5744 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00075046 = 23.1892 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150815&t=2&i=1072179765&w=976&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2015-08-15T224512Z_40_GF20000021278_RTRMADP_0_USA-ELECTION-CLINTON << caption this election campaign shot #1
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFBBwW )
pete_dushenski: http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150815&t=2&i=1072179779&w=976&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2015-08-15T224512Z_40_GF20000021263_RTRMADP_0_USA-ELECTION-TRUMP << caption this election campaign shot #2
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFBC3S )
pete_dushenski: #1 : "that's a great question little girl. what face would've kept my husband from messing around with that fatty lewinsky ? this one !"
pete_dushenski: #2 : "yummm... bbq socialists..."
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/16/dollarama-and-the-case-of-the-dollar-store-curio/
assbot: Dollarama and the case of the dollar store curio. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hFBYYi )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell williamdunne any idea why scoopbot_revived hasn't seen my last few posts ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: seems to be in channel. maybe not voiced ?
pete_dushenski: !up scoopbot_revived
ben_vulpes: NUT SPLAT
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238526 << it's high time that a duckduckgo search engine feature makes its way in channel.☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 06:00:05; mircea_popescu: <cazalla> 8chan-hosted-content-disappears-from-google-searches/ << there's an iron curtain now falling on teh internets, <me inserts rest of clinton speech>. it's us and them.
pete_dushenski: not sure if nano is up to amending gribble to ;;ddg or the like
pete_dushenski: and i somehow doubt that kako would be much fonder of adding !ddg to assbot
pete_dushenski: which leaves the door open for some enterprising young thing looking to make his mark on the wot
pete_dushenski: follow williamdunne's lead here, kiddos. watch, learn, and contribute.
pete_dushenski: !up therealnanotube
cazalla: pete_dushenski, if memory serves, ddg is just as bad
punkman: ddg just pulls from bing/yahoo, yandex
pete_dushenski: cazalla: my anecdotal experience indicates otherwise
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00075179 = 28.3425 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/as-you-sow-files-notice-of-legal-action-against-soylent-super-food-300128427.html
assbot: As You Sow Files Notice Of Legal Action Against Soylent Super Food -- OAKLAND, Calif., Aug. 13, 2015 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- ... ( http://bit.ly/1DWOH2I )
pete_dushenski: i've searched for terms on google and received 0 fucking hits, and ddg brings back >10
cazalla: pete_dushenski, i'm sure i've read before they log and sell their data
pete_dushenski: how else would they make money ?
pete_dushenski: short of rich dude's 'service to the world'
cazalla: i wouldn't know how else, don't really care either, i just don't think it is THE alternative to google.. maybe ixquick or something else
cazalla: but i continue to use google so bit of a hypocrit in doing so
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239569 << heh☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 03:57:38; pete_dushenski: "bat boy in favour of block size increase !"
pete_dushenski: !ixq would be alright
ben_vulpes: what's going on, pete_dushenski?
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: just finishing this bit of icelandic schnapps before bed, eyelids getting heavy. you ?
ben_vulpes: drinking myself into bed during a death march weekend
ben_vulpes: reading logs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92505 @ 0.00072604 = 67.1623 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: icelandic schnapps?
pete_dushenski: 'birkir'
pete_dushenski: from icelandic birch
pete_dushenski: and with that, enjoy the logs, and be sure to leave some benisms for me to read in the morning.
pete_dushenski: gnite
ben_vulpes: adieu
ben_vulpes: http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << wd, hanbot
assbot: Build Notes: “Manual” Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 | The Whet ... ( http://bit.ly/1THCNvm )
ben_vulpes: did this clear up your abortive attempt?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00075404 = 19.0772 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5194 @ 0.00071547 = 3.7162 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50356 @ 0.00071546 = 36.0277 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.0007591 = 25.4299 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81550 @ 0.00071433 = 58.2536 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00072764 = 26.195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.0007029 = 11.387 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00072764 = 3.8565 BTC [+]
davout: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0A11YS3.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hfEZ1x )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
scoopbot_revived: X.EUR August 16th statement http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-august-16th-statement/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00075548 = 11.9366 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30436 @ 0.00070349 = 21.4114 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64252 @ 0.00070261 = 45.1441 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00070115 = 34.777 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65700 @ 0.00071753 = 47.1417 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21812 @ 0.00072141 = 15.7354 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52298 @ 0.00076329 = 39.9185 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00070705 = 32.2415 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: http://redd.it/3h5pb2
shinohai: ^ "I declare a 25 BTC bounty to the first pool that will mine a block with Bitcoin ХT."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37671 @ 0.00075405 = 28.4058 BTC [+]
davout: shinohai: "i'll do it if the bounty is paid in regular bitcoin"
shinohai: kek
shinohai: The tards have taken the front page of r/bitcoin with XT and censorship nonsense today.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00076353 = 42.6813 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91700 @ 0.00076634 = 70.2734 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00077426 = 12.9301 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/15/tianjin-blasts-police-order-mass-evacuations-amid-further-explosions
assbot: Tianjin explosions: police order mass evacuation amid contamination fears | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1IVv1sL )
punkman: http://i.imgur.com/qc7FPxa.jpg that's a nice crater
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lf9ott )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00074563 = 40.4131 BTC [-] {6}
shinohai: ;;later tell trinque got the script to tun, fails to compile BxImage: https://transfer.sh/rkCI7/genkernel.log
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lfa8Pg )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89500 @ 0.00073228 = 65.5391 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20113 @ 0.00077438 = 15.5751 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00072118 = 29.8569 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up King_Rex
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h6tmm/question_for_forkers << lulz
assbot: Question for forkers : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1WwacO6 )
BingoBoingo: ass https://i.imgur.com/T3qkBvQh.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ITP90w )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00076968 = 15.7015 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "Forkers"? Seriously?
thestringpuller: The "arguments" and rhetoric from the people opposing the easing of the 1 MB cap are so getting so desperate that it almost feels like the last gasp of some pathetic campaign. You have lost this battle. Give it up already.
thestringpuller: ^^^ So entertaining
jurov: "mission accomplished"
scoopbot_revived: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/
asciilifeform: l0l i somehow missed the exponentially-growing size thing
asciilifeform falls down
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: The maximum size shall be 8,000,000 bytes at a timestamp of 2016-01-11 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 1452470400), and shall double every 63,072,000 seconds (two years, ignoring leap years), until 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC (timestamp 2083190400). The maximum size of blocks in between doublings will increase linearly based on the block's timestamp. The maximum size of blocks after 2036-01-06 00:00:00 UTC shall be 8,192,000
asciilifeform: glorious.
asciilifeform: why not 8GB ~right now~
asciilifeform: 8TB
asciilifeform: 8PB.
thestringpuller: @_@
asciilifeform: let ever maggot send tx
punkman: not enough maggots to fill an 8mb block anyway
asciilifeform: usg knows how to breed'em
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: zoolag back up?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239484 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 02:29:02; asciilifeform: zoolag is back.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why not 8GB ~right now~ << For the slow boil. Have to hook them long enough reversion from the mistake seems impossibru
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fix your post, 'though given Satoshi's infrequent use of cryptographic signatures and loss the email account' --> 'loss of'
BingoBoingo: damn, fxd
thestringpuller: oh i was about to put that typo up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57750 @ 0.00071678 = 41.394 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365)
gribble: 0.0550777123887
thestringpuller: ^- majority my ass
thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262)
gribble: 0.0582880868732
thestringpuller: 6% of all nodes are XT.
punkman: thestringpuller: even that is doubtful
BingoBoingo: It really depends on how you count total nodes
fluffypony: asciilifeform: the stupidest thing is that the max message size is 32mb anyway
punkman: fluffypony: you want em bigger?
fluffypony: so nfi if they think they're magically going to redo huge chunks of networking code somewhere inbetween things
punkman: oic, never mind
asciilifeform: fluffypony: it's more of a 'do you expect me to talk? no mr bond, i expect you to Die!!'
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1TKeOB4 )
fluffypony: punkman: I don't have a problem with a very conservative dynamic increase over time, bearing in mind that my baseline is "can I run a node on an entry-level South African DSL line"
asciilifeform: this is like asking 'how is that fella supposed to breathe under water' as they tie the stone around his neck
asciilifeform: the breathing thing is not part of the plan.
fluffypony: punkman: and my larger gripe is not "should we increase the blocksize or not", but rather the way Hearn-ia and Chief-Scientist-Gavin have sold this solution via Reddit and blog posts
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2015#1239920 << the '6K nodes' thing is a laugh. how many actually verify blocks from genesis up?☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 15:20:30; thestringpuller: ;;calc 365 / (6262 + 365)
asciilifeform: for all i know, half of'em are running 'pseudonode'
fluffypony: asciilifeform: well at least they stopped listing the nodes that don't accept incoming connections
fluffypony: they used to list them
asciilifeform: 'they' also stopped listing nodes running sane (pre-0.8)
asciilifeform: and my nodes only appear because i bludgeoned the version string to death
asciilifeform: (they appear as '-' and you can't click on it, aha)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74514 @ 0.00070799 = 52.7552 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10736 @ 0.00070223 = 7.5391 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that the figures displayed at 'bitnodes' have any strong relationship to reality
BingoBoingo: "
BingoBoingo: For the record, at LTB we will be switching all our nodes over to BitcoinXT to ensure we stay on the proper chain when the fork is triggered early next year." >> lol https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/upcoming-bitcoin-hard-fork-r-bitcoin-censorship
assbot: Upcoming Bitcoin Hard Fork & /r/bitcoin censorship - Bitcoin & Beyond | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ITV71s )
asciilifeform: that there's the magic bugle, then
asciilifeform: the one where all the usg muppets stand up
asciilifeform: (any not stood up yet?)
asciilifeform: for the record, i'm rather surprised hearn didn't also push a switcheroo in the proof of work algo
asciilifeform: 'two tastes that go great together' (tm) (r)
fluffypony: scrypt!
fluffypony: :-P
BingoBoingo: Comes later with permaflation
fluffypony: then they're two steps away from being a Monero clone, goddamn altcoins
BingoBoingo: Linked to LIBOR
fluffypony: hah hah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00071282 = 19.2818 BTC [+]
jurov: Hearn has in the past been a consistent advocate for having more Bitcoin users pushed onto less reliable SPV wallets instead of fully validating Bitcoin nodes, a move that // something missing here? // in an environment with substantially larger blocks and a higher orphaned block rate.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73123 @ 0.00069698 = 50.9653 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: BingoBoingo: accidentally something? ^
BingoBoingo: jurov: fxd
jurov: uf, how and when i got a "particularly promising branch criterion"?
jurov: anyone knows what is that bbranch good for?
mircea_popescu: chetty sticks.
jurov: well.. server defo does not like my container shenanigans
jurov: down
mircea_popescu: can you be specific ? in #eulora ?
jurov: oh i'm not in #eulora
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: "a funny, quirky, and inspiring memoir from online entertainment mogul, actress, and "queen of the geeks" Felicia Day about her unusual upbringing, her rise to Internet stardom, and embracing her individuality to find success in Hollywood. "
pete_dushenski: !s felicia day
assbot: 0 results for 'felicia day' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=felicia+day
pete_dushenski: thought so.
pete_dushenski: so famous, these people.
pete_dushenski: "Hilarious and inspirational, You're Never Weird on the Internet (Almost) is proof that everyone should embrace what makes them different and be brave enough to share it with the world, because anything is possible now - even for a digital misfit. "
pete_dushenski: vomit.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-115051
assbot: A complete theory of economics on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvwAnF )
pete_dushenski: these two hands are remarkably similar in terms of the half-retarded chickies they're holding
mircea_popescu: a week!
mircea_popescu: a week at least, with dedicated servers and ips, derp's been derping.
mircea_popescu: what "spam makes money" ?
mircea_popescu: it makes money like "i'm going to be a star" makes money.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell funkenstein_ replied http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/15/emancipation-shemancipation-independence-shmindependence/#comment-26618
assbot: Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz4Efv )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the satisfaction of seeing one's spam comment on the pages of trilema is worth so much more than money
mircea_popescu: heh
pete_dushenski: ;;seen menahem
gribble: menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 30 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <menahem> ahh shit thats cray. :D
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
pete_dushenski: "Bar Roulette uses the Yelp and Uber APIs to find a place to go and doesn’t tell you until you arrive. It’s one of the first cool integrations I’ve seen using the Uber API that I’d want to try out."
pete_dushenski: wtf.
pete_dushenski: "Up for an adventure but can’t decide where to go? This app randomly picks a top bar on Yelp, picks you up in an Uber and takes you there — without you knowing the destination."
pete_dushenski: such random !
BingoBoingo: Latest article corrected http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42174
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5rgp )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42177
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5IQC )
pete_dushenski: "I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism."
pete_dushenski: ^'satoshi'
mircea_popescu: doh.
BingoBoingo: In other news Qntra is up to 901 comments http://qntra.net/2015/08/hearn-releases-code-to-potentially-fork-xtc-from-bitcoin/#comment-42177
assbot: Hearn Releases Code to Potentially Fork XTC from Bitcoin | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nz5IQC )
mircea_popescu: and the counter is 42k ? lotta spam ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99846 @ 0.00070472 = 70.3635 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: i feel so rich.
BingoBoingo: (40,340) for the spam
mircea_popescu: I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list. I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus. However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.
mircea_popescu: The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satos
mircea_popescu: hi Nakamoto. Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it. By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.
mircea_popescu: They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be. However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions. For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network. Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivia
mircea_popescu: l problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution. I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.
mircea_popescu: If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project. Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust. This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
mircea_popescu: Satoshi Nakamoto
mircea_popescu: sorry for taking the space, but you never know what else happens on teh internets.
mircea_popescu: obviously all i see in there is "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi". but that'd be me.
BingoBoingo: !b 2
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SJZB18.txt )
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h72bq/help_installing_xt_on_window_98/
assbot: Help installing XT on Window 98? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW0N9e )
mircea_popescu: !rated btcdrak
assbot: btcdrak is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: wouldja mind ?
BingoBoingo: !up btcdrak
mircea_popescu: anyway, the reddit thread is pretty lulzy. all teh butthurt awww.
btcdrak: not sure I too tbh.
btcdrak: yeah reddit is a mess atm.
mircea_popescu: "Heh, whoever this guy is, he probably could have never anticipated that the Streisand effect will be the downfall of the small-blockers' side. "
mircea_popescu: etc.
mircea_popescu: teh downfael1
mircea_popescu: "Can't see why SN would write about Gavin in this sort of terse/removed tone."
mircea_popescu: guess.
btcdrak: bwahahahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76400 @ 0.00072244 = 55.1944 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: btcdrak i mean, wouldja mind registering with assbot
mircea_popescu: let's hold a moment of silence for 2 years ago. http://trilema.com/2013/and-gavin-moves-on-to-the-dark-side-the-bitcoin-project-is-officially-hijacked/
assbot: And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially hijacked on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvB8Kx )
btcdrak: It would be so funny if Satoshi does something to remove doubt of his identity. I'd love to see the cognitive dissonance play out on r/bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: no point doing that before the idiots invest themselves in it.
mircea_popescu: let gavinhearn come out with a "hey it's notrly satoshi" first.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of gavin,
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-09-2014#822992 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
btcdrak: ok I registered with assbot
BingoBoingo: !rate btcdrak 1 lurks here
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/242f55eb1067394d
asciilifeform: eight yottabyte blocks when !!!1111
BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.btcdrak.1:bfd9f1dbc0e9d0d0e4a40211f5707f13406d3119b39375fe388e73cef2e3b13e
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for btcdrak with note: lurks here
mircea_popescu: !rate btcdrak 1 New blood
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fdbadb1d747a7974
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.btcdrak.1:a647ff23eec9625b49ce18eb7a22cb190710fff646b72cf2b7ed06982735e980
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for btcdrak with note: New blood
btcdrak: I'm officially registered as an ass now. reddit will be pleased. next stop t/buttcoin. Jealous of petertodd who got mod status
mircea_popescu: btcdrak can now self voice
btcdrak: ty
mircea_popescu: being an ass is the best thing to be - you get all teh pleasure.
btcdrak: did you see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3h78x9/pseudonode_can_now_pretend_to_be_bitcoin_xt/ LOL
assbot: PseudoNode can now pretend to be Bitcoin XT. · basil00/PseudoNode@e61ec61 : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW2Fyz )
btcdrak: looks like someone wants to mess with Mike's statistics
mircea_popescu: the b-a node could do this since forever, if anytone gave a shit to bother.
kakobrekla: wheres that ddoser now, could be put to good use
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: https://slimgur.com/images/2015/08/16/cddfcdf25e7f92448824bd343e842e65.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW3J5E )
BingoBoingo: !up mitzip
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10854 @ 0.0007213 = 7.829 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0007213 = 12.19 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Underhanded c 2015 challenge is up http://www.underhanded-c.org/
assbot: The Underhanded C Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1IW4NX2 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36139 @ 0.00072659 = 26.2582 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;nethash
gribble: 371799054.163
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43064 @ 0.00075597 = 32.5551 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76800 @ 0.00075599 = 58.06 BTC [+] {5}
btcdrak: https://twitter.com/bramcohen/status/632954147994750980
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00072647 = 21.3582 BTC [-] {5}
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: fyi vlc will happily play youtube videos from the url alone. "open network".
mats: TIL
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: see pm
thestringpuller: are the 14.04 test results available?
mod6: ubuntu?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000756 = 2.7972 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dun have vlc on this machine and i don't usually care enough to check some vid on a dirty box
mircea_popescu: but yeah.
BingoBoingo just changed User Agent string again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42336 @ 0.00075601 = 32.0064 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: 54 weeks too early https://bitbet.us/bet/767/openly-gay-player-in-major-league-baseball-before/ http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/16/david_denson_baseball_finally_has_its_first_openly_gay_active_player.html
assbot: BitBet - Openly gay player in Major League Baseball before August :: 0.07 B (35%) on Yes, 0.13 B (65%) on No | closed 1 year 3 weeks ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL6T6N )
assbot: David Denson: Baseball finally has its first openly gay active player. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL6Tnd )
mircea_popescu: awww
BingoBoingo: More podcaster derp https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h81dh/bram_cohen_bitcoinxt_because_the_best_way_of/cu541cb
assbot: cryptonaut420 comments on [Bram Cohen] Bitcoin-XT: Because the best way of making engineering decisions is by popularity on reddit. ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL8DNh )
BingoBoingo: Because MP, MPEx, Trilema, and qntra don't exist
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00075601 = 19.8453 BTC [+]
punkman: cohen is a king among the autists
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29650 @ 0.000741 = 21.9707 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: i just cracked my water heater thermostat open
ben_vulpes: unsurprisingly, 'twas set to its lowest possible setting
punkman: any higher and the heating becomes global instead of local
ben_vulpes: the communists came through the apartments recently as well, installing low-flow faucet hobbles
mats: lol it appears based on those Cohen tweets that weev has a sensible position on the fork
mats: mebbe he is still reading logs
mats: i still don't get why he took off after that brief conversation with mp if he actually has access to 0days
BingoBoingo: mats: Not exploit zero days, "information" 0 days or something like that.
mats: not sure what that means
punkman: what like the pr release hacks?
BingoBoingo: business seekrits or something like that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61200 @ 0.00076531 = 46.837 BTC [+] {5}
mats: ic
mats: that sounds even more difficult to sell than a n-day exploit
BingoBoingo: lol https://voat.co/v/bitcoin/comments/419341/1855544
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq3Lmv )
ben_vulpes: notrly, go short and drop the docs
mircea_popescu: lol @ all teh reddit posts with 0 votes.
mircea_popescu: mats upon research it turns out that teh guy isn't/wasn't actually doing anything. i'm obviously not the best avenue for that.
mircea_popescu: iirc he made some start-up with max keiser, which failed.
mircea_popescu: "Imagine that happened when they thought they had 75% but actually only 10%..." <<< no need to imagine anything. simply recall the event a few weeks ago when they who thought they had 90% actually had <40%.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11846 @ 0.000741 = 8.7779 BTC [-]
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/troubadour/
assbot: Troubadour ... ( http://bit.ly/1TJTHK6 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25854 @ 0.0007382 = 19.0854 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00075084 = 31.0097 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25854 @ 0.00075084 = 19.4122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 210969 @ 0.00077068 = 162.5896 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76950 @ 0.00078487 = 60.3957 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83196 @ 0.00075084 = 62.4669 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00073118 = 53.8148 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00072025 = 47.7526 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 256.09, vol: 9822.81089287 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 256.05, vol: 4354.06766 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 259.29, vol: 27889.01352868 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 262.0, vol: 12.37063187 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 257.330128, vol: 18651.01300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 260.3475, vol: 263.60326104 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 260.8722, vol: 22.58341741 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 257.950245245
mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone recall where the fuck i put that screenshot of gavin casually admitting that satoshi never spoke to him after he ran off and "presented" bitcoin @nsa hq ?
shinohai: No, but if anyone finds it I will preserve it.
midnightmagic: satoshi never spoke to anyone.
shinohai: He may as well have sucked Gavin's cock as far as r/bitcoin is concerned.
BingoBoingo: I think you may have trilema'd it this year
mircea_popescu: yes this year.
mircea_popescu: recently, cuz it was luzly how i'm apparently the only one remembering.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00077666 = 14.64 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm checking the job board
menahem: hmm, no screenshot, but there is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113609.0
assbot: Satoshi dumped Bitcoin right after Gavin announced he was going to the CIA. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYrUDx )
menahem: that was recent though, I remember reading it about 2-ish weeks ago.
menahem: (your post)
mircea_popescu: i guess ire=make it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39837 @ 0.00079097 = 31.5099 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: I wonder if Hearn made any An Heros this week http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/
assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KUts4e )
mircea_popescu: win
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/02/there-is-nothing-new-in-the-world-except-for-the-history-you-didnt-know/
assbot: There is nothing new in the world. Except for the history you didn't know. | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYs65K )
mircea_popescu: that's why i wasn't finding it lol
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: I dunno how you find old Trilemas, even Qntra is starting to really slow down the brainchain index
BingoBoingo would be totally lost if not for the http://qntra.net/archives/ page
assbot: Archives | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1DYsi4V )
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
menahem: lol now that I think about it, that's probably why I remember seeing that article.. after going through qntra archives.
mats: >0.00079097
mats: wat
BingoBoingo: Bullish
BingoBoingo: Or did that break your trading stratergy
punkman: to the moon!
mats: nah
mats: i make small 2-4% plays
mats: unfortunately i don't get paid when mpoe moves like this but meh whatever
mats: i wont get hosed when it falls back to 0.00028 either
scoopbot_revived: The news, in brief : "Hearn is a shitstain, MP is right, fuck reddit. Love, Satoshi" http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/
mats: order book currently looks like this: bids (0.00074712, 58500) (0.00071408, 57) (0.00071407, 21696) asks (0.00076799, 159300) (0.00079910, 35312) (0.0008, 32418)
mats: much spread