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asciilifeform: woman is right here in the 'cave' with me. like tank crew, silently doing the right thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:47:00; deedbot-: [Qntra] Torrent Infrastructure Hindered as Demonii/YIFY/YTS Fall - http://qntra.net/2015/11/torrent-infrastructure-hindered-as-demoniiyifyyts-fall/
asciilifeform: 'Update: The YTS.to domain was just signed over to the MPAA.'
asciilifeform: https://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-can-access-popcorntime-services-vpn-court-rules-151104 << from same rag
assbot: MPAA Can Access Popcorn Time Services & VPN, Court Rules - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhLP51 )
asciilifeform: 'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ? ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319425 << hey, i had one of those, too! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319423 << aha. lulziest thing in the world. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:11:34; asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
mircea_popescu: considering the jailing costs more than the alimony.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319590 << we vote 'no', recall ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:10:55; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ?
mircea_popescu: so in what sense is this woman a woman ?
mircea_popescu: not in the sense herein contemplated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
mircea_popescu: which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE.
mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319468 << factual indeed. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who
mircea_popescu: but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319475 << no, you do not want them dead. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for YEARS.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:05:41; asciilifeform: believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now.
mircea_popescu: heck, most soviet kids believed in "better soviet"
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mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 385.8, Best ask: 386.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 385.81, 24 hour volume: 34655.48879914, 24 hour low: 371.32, 24 hour high: 392.23, 24 hour vwap: None
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trinque: mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far.
kakobrekla: currently i make log dumps on request
trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Retard Strong: https://i.sli.mg/ugyHG7.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3ATAb )
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla plox to have a dump, ima vdiff it with my local logs, pack it and hash/sign
mircea_popescu: trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed
kakobrekla: one fat txt file ?
mircea_popescu: works./
BingoBoingo: http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510646458-amd-faces-suit-over-alleged-misrepresentation-of-new-cpu
assbot: AMD faces suit over alleged misrepresentation of new CPU | Legal News Line ... ( http://bit.ly/20DwY8I )
mircea_popescu: "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
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asciilifeform: intel hyperthreading lawsuit when.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 << this will be a reasonably-mechanized thing with gossip ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
asciilifeform: ('reasonably mechanized', note, does not mean 'fully automatic')
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319604 << usually i think 'drown like rat' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
mircea_popescu: rats swim.
asciilifeform: ah yes.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319611 << who wants to watch this porn? wouldn't this be a bit like turning'em into sausages ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:22:48; mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: here's a secret : most porn produced today is not actually made for anyone to watch.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like books published.
asciilifeform: and we need moar of this for something?
mircea_popescu has genuinely seen this, "you got a cam, something ? i feel kinda weird going at it without anything"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we don't need it, they do
asciilifeform: how's this work? picture a public beheading with... a studio audience ?!
trinque: this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig...
trinque: some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter
asciilifeform: imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ?
asciilifeform: as in, an actually sentient one
trinque: I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date
trinque: no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public"
asciilifeform: this might be an advanced matter of mircea_popescutronics that i am grossly unequipped to reason about.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened".
mircea_popescu: the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?"
mircea_popescu: that's why you don't kill the us president so the vp can take over.\
mircea_popescu: you kidnap it and transexual operation.
mircea_popescu: "this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!"
asciilifeform: wake me up when.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares about a guy. certainly not the other guys just like him.
mircea_popescu: trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings.
mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all.
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mircea_popescu: anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do".
mircea_popescu: also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point.
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mircea_popescu: and from tlp :
mircea_popescu: Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important
mircea_popescu: and less accessible-- except through Us Weekly.
mircea_popescu: But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi
mircea_popescu: th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!"
mircea_popescu: ha-HA!
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BingoBoingo: !up archStanton
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Theymos Threatens Coinbase's Social Media Privileges - http://qntra.net/2015/11/theymos-threatens-coinbases-social-media-privileges/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319668 << successful extermination is more educative still ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion' ☟︎☟︎
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punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc) ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
trinque: yep, I think asciilifeform has it, that it'd be something to build around gossipd
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
asciilifeform: damnatio ad bestias (tm) (r)
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319584 << you don't, but it was a nice tree ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:02:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
punkman: enjoyed the quality while it lasted, if only they did more old movies
asciilifeform: warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing.
asciilifeform: (yet the umpteenth reason why gossipd is a weapon of the apocalypse)
punkman: well I don't know anyone that scans books or rips movies
asciilifeform: sure you do
asciilifeform scans bookz
asciilifeform would scan yet moar bookz if he had with whom to trade
asciilifeform: see, warez traditionally works as a trade thing
punkman: and how do you trade bookz with a lot of people? you go to bookzz dot org
asciilifeform: mno.
punkman: (actually a thing if anyone's not familiar with it)
asciilifeform: that's 'silk road' thinking.
asciilifeform: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-last-untouchable-in-europe-878705.html << vintage historic curio.
assbot: The last untouchable in Europe | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXzOOX )
punkman: other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez
punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/fashion/gofundme-gone-wild.html
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm3iWY )
asciilifeform: 'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: “My life — the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food
asciilifeform: and clothing.”'
asciilifeform: win.
asciilifeform: y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers
asciilifeform: but it turns out, there's a ready list !
punkman: many
asciilifeform: 'never would be missed!' (tm) (r) (mikado)
punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this." ☟︎
assbot: Amazon and eBay 'liable' if they ignore VAT fraud - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXACn0 )
BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance ☟︎
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asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/style/transgender-restroom-all-gender.html << moar lulz
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5RZi )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
asciilifeform: (i.e. reporting any user who nets, iirc, > 600 usd/yr)
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punkman: there were a couple local ebay-clones here that passed all their data to the taxman. "oh you sold 6 old phones this year? and what did you not have time to incorporate and register for VAT?"
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319724 << there is a kind of primordial fog that especially dim people believe to still exist and matter ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:43:11; BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
asciilifeform: 'nothing is written down and no one will ever search'
BingoBoingo: Probably why pariahs
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: actual pariadom selects for intelligence and will
asciilifeform: or at least one of the two
BingoBoingo: Not always, pariah dog is a thing
BingoBoingo: because even more useless than food dog
asciilifeform: food dog is eminently useful
BingoBoingo: Indeed
BingoBoingo: As food.
BingoBoingo: Pariah dog generally too wormy for that.
ben_vulpes went to see one employee's exhibition fight, walked away staggering under a load of psychoactive gifts from other employees
asciilifeform: what the hell is a pariah dog
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: the sort of mutt common when actual dogs breed unrestrained and in poverty
BingoBoingo: ;;google pariah dog
gribble: Pariah dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_dog>; Indian pariah dog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pariah_dog>; Pariah dogs: 9 ancient and wild dog breeds - Mother Nature Network: <http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/photos/pariah-dogs-9-ancient-and-wild-dog-breeds/what-is-a-pariah-dog>
asciilifeform: ah the small ones
BingoBoingo: Generally small yes.
asciilifeform saw these in the wee hours in timisoara
BingoBoingo: Once a friend responded to a "Phree to good home" add and ended up recieving feral pariah like rat/dog hybrid.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: get'em into chess-boxing
BingoBoingo: Exist in varying populations anywhere dogs have been stray enough generations
asciilifeform: http://worldchessboxing.com
assbot: World Chessboxing Association ... ( http://bit.ly/1XX1VT9 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^
asciilifeform: somehow it isn't as i imagined it
asciilifeform: (did not picture boxing ring with chess board, but rather a normal-looking chess setting but with boxing)
BingoBoingo: neato
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ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/KGHI8TM.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iKEE6V )
punkman: heh
punkman: "Thus, we come to our first node.js tip: one effective way that we get high performance out of node.js is to avoid doing computation in node.js."
BingoBoingo: What else is there to do?
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ben_vulpes: jets by any other name would smell as rank
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319688 << not so. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 03:33:07; asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
mircea_popescu: one dead slave does not persuade a harem nearly as much as the red marks on a live slave's butt.
mircea_popescu: in one interpretation : death is a public good ; the red marks are still owned by the owner.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319690 << the idea i was going to use is, "all the content of my lines is in the logs as presented". ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 03:55:18; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc)
mircea_popescu: its not 100%, but a decent proxy
ben_vulpes has been bothering kakobrekla for logdumps lately
ben_vulpes: sql format is rather handy, i must say.
ben_vulpes: i would rather not parse them back into something rdbms-friendly.
ben_vulpes: perhaps a logcsv if we cannot have logsqldump?
ben_vulpes: unixtime,handle,message ?
ben_vulpes not terrifically vested in this, but would like to apply extant tooling to next step with minimal hassle.
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mircea_popescu: in other news, it's time to untangle our tangled lives! http://41.media.tumblr.com/f98c9bf54e7be9827896ae20b26ad214/tumblr_n4x1xvORNz1s3eztgo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1kCpTUN )
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ben_vulpes: that hand is facing the wrong direction
mircea_popescu: The crime writer Mark Ebner, whose mailboxes have been increasingly filled with monetary requests, has a theory about it all. “I think online begging has become the new economy.”
mircea_popescu: mmmkay.
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mircea_popescu: for the record, "malarial side of a river" is rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: what's next, impregnatory side of the cunt ?
BingoBoingo: Coinbase http://gomerblog.com/2015/02/orthopedic-surgeon-2/
assbot: Breaking News: Orthopedic Surgeon Completes 1000th Surgery with EBL of 50cc | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/1ki64mm )
BingoBoingo: Malarial side of the river is a thing on a lot of river. One side has bluffs into the water, the other side is swamp
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deedbot-: [Qntra] Mizzou and Yale Experience Acute Unrest - http://qntra.net/2015/11/mizzou-and-yale-experience-acute-unrest/
BingoBoingo: "Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what Vice describes as militariza ☟︎
BingoBoingo: tion"
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adlai: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/about/ staff section needs an update
assbot: About | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMjTr )
BingoBoingo: ty adlai I'll get that cleaned up this week
adlai: also, qntra guidelines should specify what happens to shares credited to articles signed by keys unknown to mpex. http://mpex.ws/faq.html#5 suggests they should go into limbo, it should probably be clarified that they default to coinbr (what if a competitor appears?)
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMsWX )
BingoBoingo: adlai: Revised http://qntra.net/about/
assbot: About | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PvMjTr )
adlai: that was a quick week!
BingoBoingo: adlai: They default to Jurov's tender love and care
BingoBoingo: Twas a quick week.
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adlai: BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/0NNWT4R.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJn54u )
adlai: actually wait a sec, needs another archive
adlai: fixed: http://dpaste.com/0F4Y7WM.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJnmo9 )
BingoBoingo: adlai: Signature?
adlai: --armor --sign --encrypt, gpg should mention that after the decryption
BingoBoingo: Ah, yeah missed that frame in emacs
deedbot-: [Qntra] ProtonMail Confirms Ongoing Profitability of Negotiations (For The Terrorists) - http://qntra.net/2015/11/protonmail-confirms-ongoing-profitability-of-negotiations-for-the-terrorists/
BingoBoingo: ty adlai
adlai: yw, shoutout to the humble tipster, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-11-2015#1318275 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 12:15:31; punkman: http://www.zdnet.com/article/protonmail-coughs-up-6000-to-stop-ddos-attack-ddos-carries-on-anyway/
BingoBoingo: cool
adlai: ah shit, this is embarassing. the bc.i snapshot is too old. https://archive.is/KiV77 should do the trick.
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1FxHcZzW3z9NRSUnQ9Pcp58ddYaSuN1T2y ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJoGHG )
BingoBoingo: ty
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punkman: adlai: cool, I thought someone would scoop that up
punkman: you don't really have to archive.is teh blockchain though
adlai: bc.i public notes are plaintext droppings, not even deedbotted
punkman: ah yeah just noticed those
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fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-HJT8_esM&feature=youtu.be
assbot: #Equality - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Msolrx )
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fluffypony: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ry7lt/amir_taaki_interview_hes_talking_about_how_he_got/cwsfuen
assbot: AliBongo88 comments on Amir Taaki interview, he's talking about how he got into Bitcoin, and singing a song in the end ... ( http://bit.ly/1MEWShV )
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh!
mircea_popescu: that's pretty nutty, that sort of geography should insure against malaria.
mircea_popescu: With that the Christakis family became the target for outraged students and faculty members for violating their "safe space" with students who are alleged to be residents of Stillman College recorded on videos being circulated asking the member of the National Academy of Sciences "Who the fuck hired you?" (archived).
mircea_popescu: lmao. wanna bet they're actually "syrian refugees" ?
mircea_popescu: "Protests related to a racially integrated fraternity who allegedly after their party hit capacity closed their doors to everyone but white women have reportedly been subsumed and absorbed by the Sillman College outrage" << spoeaking of which, i finally found the one fucking sane club in b-a. and you will know a sane club by this sign, than when you leave towards 4am womenz in tow, after having spent the night in the v
mircea_popescu: ip section, there's a teeming mass of dorks in tshirts having been actively denied entrance this whole time.
mircea_popescu: because "fuck you, buy some clothes, find a woman, buy her some shoes, come back. idiots."
mircea_popescu: "a cohort of black athletes of color." lol ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fact that the orc horde is devouring the ACTUAL liberal elite... seriously, christakis ?
mircea_popescu: go team nigger.
mircea_popescu: at this rate the country will be ungovernable before obama's term is up, won't even need elections.
mircea_popescu: The full list:
mircea_popescu: I. We demand that the University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a handwritten apology to the Concerned Student 1950 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white male privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exist, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned S
mircea_popescu: tudent 1950 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admit to his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha fucking epic, check out the great leap forward!
mircea_popescu: someone blame mao for it! please. it can't be that at certain stages in the evolution/decay of the horde, THIS happens.
mircea_popescu: just like crawling 2yo sticks everything in mouth, including any turds.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> also, qntra guidelines should specify << so far jurov's been acting as a broker for the people interested.
mircea_popescu: too much specification is a bad thing, and in any case specification as indicated by outsiders is beyond fucking dumb.
mircea_popescu: seriously, what must be going on in your head for you to come in here and start with the shoulds ? are you actually stupid or something ?
mircea_popescu: !rated adlai
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mircea_popescu: !rate adlai -1 As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation.
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adlai shrugs
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-08-2015#1254376 << so far, it doesn't! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 13:17:25; cazalla: anyway first decimation, now adlai, but how does a neg from mp preclude anyone from remaining in the channel?
mircea_popescu: just get lost, go do something useful with your life. this pointedly isn't it.
adlai: kill me.
mircea_popescu: da fuck i care about your stupid ass lmao.
adlai: or /ignore
mircea_popescu: talk to your dad, you're his failure.
adlai: talk to yours.
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adlai: while field-testing $bezzleCorp-supplied equipment, sergeant adlai asked an unfamiliar civilian, not wearing $bezzleCorp.colors, who showed up one day whether he also belonged to them.
adlai: he said, "nah, any guy from $bezzleCorp you see, i'm the thorn in his ass"
adlai: turns out this guy's full-time job is to be the ass thorn for such corps, on behalf of the military, to ensure it doesn't get too badly bezzled
adlai: of course story ends badly, our hundreds-page report detailing the flashy new crap's crappiness went ignored as top brass signed the line that's dotted
adlai: bezzle gonna bezz. don't hate the thorn, hate the ass. something like that.
punkman: did israeli mil invest in mpex yet?
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punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTOKRRVW4AAAt2B.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1WJUnjY )
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mircea_popescu: the more i think about it, the more it seems obvious in retrospect that obama ii was a sort of libtards' own kamakura moment.
mircea_popescu: the nigglets are furious at the dismal quality of plunder, have been postponing hopes at the cost of increased hoped-fors. by now they're not just willing to but actually proceeding to beheading the niggers.
mircea_popescu: hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if this entire line's correct, there's about 50-50 odds for black concentration camps before the decade's out.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : by the time you start hearing about "african arrogance", you've missed the diamond train.
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asciilifeform: i think we have these already
mircea_popescu: o ?
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent, nigger = a particular sort of demagogue, characteristic to the fall of the us empire. like all demagogoues, the corpse of a once-great realm is his ; like all demagogues he attempts to whip the underclass into hysteria in the hope of somehow exchanging it for value later on ; his minor specificity is that he uses hallucinated "social issues" as frothing agents, usually to do with skin tone, less comm
mircea_popescu: only gender. nigglet = diminutive thereof, a two bit player in niggerdom.)
asciilifeform: i meant, the camps. atm they only hold adult males tho
mircea_popescu: and to some degree discriminate.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, obviously. there was a ghetto before the ghetto in berlin, too.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 21 @ 0.04885713 = 1.026 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319817 << the dump where i went to school is, or at least was at the time, thought to be ~the~ 'nsa uni' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 09:41:44; BingoBoingo: "Together, the 100 schools that made the list "produce the greatest number of students who are employed by the Intelligence Community (IC), have the closest relationships with the national security state and profit the most from American war-waging," according to Vice. The rankings only report three traditionally conservative universities, indicating that more liberal schools play a larger role in what
asciilifeform: at one point there were even seekrit penthouses in various uni bldgs, where the lift wouldn't go
asciilifeform: or so the legend went.
mircea_popescu: i don't really follow the appeal of this tho. so you get a nsa job, what's the value ? i mean, top quant uni, top high street lawyers uni, i can see, the idea is "go here maybe you get a golden ticket - make a lot of money"
mircea_popescu: nobody makes a lot of money working for fucking nsa, it's worse than civil service for chrissakles, you'll end up married to a "social worker" and she'll pull more than your weight on the single room mortgage.
asciilifeform: this might be in the logz
mircea_popescu: is unemployment THAT bad that the proles have actually given up on anything, will take the meal ticket ?
asciilifeform: the appeal is two-pronged
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, it's not 5%, but it's not the 30%ish that'd be required for this nigerianess ?
asciilifeform: one is that a tour of duty in the dungeons is good for a few 100k in a mega-zaibatsu (e.g., 'raytheon') later
mircea_popescu: except it isn't ?
asciilifeform: the other prong is that 'black' work has a distinct upside of 'i don't have to write on my cv that i played 'doom' for five years'
mircea_popescu: but this is meal ticket stuff.
asciilifeform: and perhaps the third prong is the 'masonic' aspect of serving hitler directly
mircea_popescu: how is it directly ?!
mircea_popescu: couldn't be less directly.
asciilifeform: why did folks join ss ?
mircea_popescu: a "secret service" whose name is in the press ? seriously ?
asciilifeform: schutzstaffel was also in its press..
mircea_popescu: but that is "swat" not nsa.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, i get why carl force went into dea.
asciilifeform: nsa is 'swat' for skinny programmer types
mircea_popescu: so then not swat.
asciilifeform: or so presents itself.
mircea_popescu: except this isn't how it works. "nsa is tits for pig" well ?
mircea_popescu: understand, at the statistical level we're discussing, the delusions of the scum don't matter.
mircea_popescu: the flesh knows.
asciilifeform: i thought the question was specifically re: the delusions of the scum
asciilifeform: as in, how recruitment is done
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is how it's packaged/sold by media, not how people actually think
mircea_popescu: but i am pretty blown away that they really think this is a sane approach. either unemployment/hunger/despair is a lot higher than i thought
mircea_popescu: or they're doing the math wrong.
asciilifeform: how people think, i can also say. given that i actually tried to sign up some years ago.
asciilifeform: they think 'ooh a job opening, i can pay rentz'
mircea_popescu: nuts.
asciilifeform: nsa is also the only (afaik) shop ~outside of the threadbare academia tournamentmarket~ that hires b. of s. in maths straight out of school
asciilifeform: for a feed-a-family salary
mircea_popescu: o wait, speaking of diamond trains :
mircea_popescu: Kastner moved to Israel after the war, becoming a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and Industry in 1952. In 1953 he was accused of having been a Nazi collaborator in a pamphlet self-published by Malchiel Gruenwald, a freelance writer. The allegation stemmed from his relationship with Eichmann and another SS officer, Kurt Becher, and from his having given positive character references after the war for Becher and two
mircea_popescu: other SS officers, thus allowing Becher to escape prosecution for war crimes. The Israeli government sued Gruenwald for libel on Kastner's behalf, resulting in a trial that lasted 18 months, and a ruling in 1955 that Kastner had, in the words of Judge Benjamin Halevy, "sold his soul to the devil". By saving the Jews on the Kastner train, while failing to warn others that their "resettlement" was in fact deportation to
mircea_popescu: the gas chambers, Kastner had sacrificed the mass of Jewry for a chosen few, the judge said. The verdict triggered the fall of the Israeli Cabinet.
mircea_popescu: i guess the diamond train got cancelled. nobody's gonna bother with it this time.
mircea_popescu: malchiel moore ftw, who knew.
asciilifeform: the train usually referred to as 'diamon' was, iirc, schindler's
asciilifeform: *diamond
mircea_popescu: this is the guy that did the eichman deal.
mircea_popescu: ~2k deported to switzerland iirc.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, this guy was born in cluj.)
mircea_popescu: aka קלויזנבורג
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mod6: Today is the one year anneversary of the Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignty. Happy Independence Day!
mod6: *anniversary too :]
mircea_popescu: wow, the day after the soviets ? srsly ?
mod6: Seems so.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, happy tmsr day!
mircea_popescu: !up stefek99
kakobrekla: lulzy on so many levels http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/scottish-man-indicted-for-twitter-based-stock-fraud/
assbot: DOJ indicts man who blasted false stock info on Twitter then traded on it | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Ky9D )
kakobrekla: >prosecutors allege that Craig's false tweet-storms caused $1.6 million in losses to shareholders.
kakobrekla: >but SEC believes suspect made just $100.
kakobrekla: just a charade
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mircea_popescu: pays the rentz.
mircea_popescu: ;;google "Be content to bind them by laws of trade. You have always done it. And let this be your reason."
gribble: Edmund Burke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke>; Speech On American Taxation by Edmund Burke (April 1774): <http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/burkee/extracts/chap3.htm>; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html>
mircea_popescu: i get 1 tlp, 2 some quote site, 3. pete_d and 4 some weird http://femaleintel.com/cyber-bullying-and-its-effect-women-online/
assbot: Cyber Bullying And It's Effect Women Online » FemaleIntel ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4L1IL )
mircea_popescu: and "no other results"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this supposed to work.
asciilifeform: femaleintel ?!!
asciilifeform: wut
kakobrekla: same here
kakobrekla: wait tomorrow, you will also get b-a log
asciilifeform: takes 5min or so, on avg.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, most of my searches end up returning b-a log and little else
mircea_popescu: "Jamie Hufford
mircea_popescu: http://femaleintel.com
assbot: Home » FemaleIntel ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Lbju )
mircea_popescu: I'm a writer based out of East Village, Manhattan. I work from my condo and local coffee shops (and a few restaurants with menus that are more unhealthy than licking a subway railing), meeting friends who have boats or boat access, touring the zoo for the zoo to visit my ex-boyfriends, and forcing my political beliefs on others at social events (kidding, don't be one of those people."
mircea_popescu: meanwhile she stole a tlp piece verbatim,
mircea_popescu: fancy that.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, somewhere deep in the african savanna, a hyena stole a piece of a dead lion verbatim.
mircea_popescu: lowest effort, like us college level : left his links in even.
mircea_popescu: You&#8217;ve taken the bait and put all your <a id="itxthook2" class="itxtrst itxtrsta itxthook" href="http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html#" rel="nofollow"><span id="itxthook2w" class="itxtrst itxtrstspan itxtnowrap">energy</span></a> into accepting the form of the argument.
asciilifeform: the one defining mark of scum, no activity but the lowest-effort variety
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, check out the miserable shape of tlp's html
asciilifeform: whether eating, fucking, writing
mircea_popescu: for someone who knows enough of pgp to say "Besides, there’s no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom."...
thestringpuller: https://archive.is/A88wt << i think i just had an anurism
thestringpuller: I hope I don't have a stroke.
mircea_popescu: aneurysm is better than stroke because closer to b than to w.
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mircea_popescu: "Something interesting started to happen this week. Last week, 82% of our payouts were being taken in bitcoin. Currently, 72% of payouts are being paid in bitcoin."
asciilifeform: 'f I had to guess which coin would become the world reserve currency in this scenario, I would go with dogecoin.' << tr0l0l0l ?
mircea_popescu: so you're losing relevance. who the fuck is "you" anyway, i have no idea who Steve Sokolowski is supposed to be and that mug doesn't say anything other than "future unemployed college grad" to me.
thestringpuller: I kno rite?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller so why do we care ?
asciilifeform: 'theymos and whoever else opposes the upgrade to make a last-ditch effort to destroy bitcoin by taking 33% of XT pools offline so that 50% would be running the old code. I wouldn't be surprised to see the largest DDoS attacks in the history of the Internet when the network commits to the upgrade two weeks later.' << wut
asciilifeform: wreckerz!11111
mircea_popescu: the what ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, back at tlp,
mircea_popescu: "Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities a
mircea_popescu: nd NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500."
mircea_popescu: i wonder how on point this is.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i find stupidity entertaining
mod6: haha, i just fixed a bug in the old perl 5.005_04 makedepend.SH script.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller okay, but kinda contextless like this... i mean, some nobody on some obscure site somewhere on the internet is all timecube into his alt-reality. ok... kinda you know, slapstick-y.
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asciilifeform: 'The rabbi's wife tries in vain to stop her children, aged four and eight, fighting in her bunk. Her neighbours, kept awake by the din, swear at them. A woman screams because a mouse has run over her face. Bedbugs drop from the higher bunks onto the lower. Another woman screams because the little boy in the bunk above her has spilled the jam jar he uses as a chamber pot all over her. Somebody has whooping cough. Another little
asciilifeform: boy begs his mother not to beat him because in his sleep he wet the bunk he shares with her. She does and he squeals. A former night-club dancer tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh. A spoilt rich wife has hung her clothes on all available nails, leaving no room for anybody else. The passage ends with: "In 24 out of 24 hou
asciilifeform: rs there is never a minute's silence...'
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well recently reread: http://trilema.com/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/; and recently saw that all altcoins combined have less market cap than bitcoin; same feeling luke wilson has in Idocracy i 'spose
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116342 @ 0.00055145 = 64.1568 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00055862 = 4.8941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35050 @ 0.00055861 = 19.5793 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's not much substance there. not only is only 10% of the money in alts, and not only does this mean a billion alts, but the important point is that it's a selected 10%, and selected badly/for stupidity.
mircea_popescu: just like if you get the wrong 10% of the rent market you're out of busienss as a landlord ; or if you get the wrong 10% of patrons your pizzeria's dead etc.
mircea_popescu: something like http://trilema.com/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/
assbot: Adnotated words of wisdom on the topic of online fraud on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OxEu17 )
asciilifeform: like running an engine on bitumen
mircea_popescu: right ? "10% of crude!"
asciilifeform: it.
mircea_popescu: " A former night-club dancer tells dirty stories about her ex-colleagues to the refined Orthodox language teacher, who does not know whether to block her ears or to laugh." << this is the gain.
mircea_popescu: "Hess yells about a world of masculine power because she has the power to yell at it. But of course her power is limited only to yelling, she is impotent against a troll who yells at her. But her mistake is in thinking he has the power. No one has it, the system doesn't allow it. Even the mighty Economist demo feels impotent. Are they all delusional? This is the true critique of the system, not simply that one group re
mircea_popescu: liably oppresses another; but that the entire system is based on creating a lack. This lack is not a bottomless hole that nothing could ever fill, but a tiny, strangely shaped divot in your soul into which nothing could ever fit: not money, not sex, not stuff, not relationships. Nothing "takes." Nothing counts. Nothing is ever right. Only novelty works, until it wears off."
mircea_popescu: i love this guy.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, that's exactly the problem : slavery without a master is hollow. hence all the matrix stuff.
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asciilifeform: ants in a circle.
mircea_popescu: this is a great fucking article.
mircea_popescu: "Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it."
mircea_popescu: hurr.
mircea_popescu: and then that fucktard went TO THE GUARDIAN.
mircea_popescu: worst fucking idea in the history of bad ideas.
asciilifeform: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/index.html << it is possible that some folks here have never seen this astonishing document.
assbot: The GNU C Library: Top ... ( http://bit.ly/1kDD9bX )
mircea_popescu: anyway, this completes my full re-reading of tlp!
asciilifeform: the sheer elephantiasis
asciilifeform: raise yer hands if ever heard of an 'obstack'
asciilifeform: or an argz
asciilifeform: oh and, phun phakt of the day, gpg 1.4.10 will link in 'gettext' if it finds it
mircea_popescu: argz yea
asciilifeform: this salvage op is not raising a fishing trawler that went down last business quarter. it is not raising 'kursk' submarine. it is not raising 'titanic', even. it is raising the empty treasure chest on a spanish galleon that sank in 1600s and colonized by little fish.
mircea_popescu: iirc the decision libc is not salvageable is months old by now
asciilifeform: not speaking of libc
asciilifeform: but of gpg, but secondarily, the whole shebang.
mircea_popescu: mmm
asciilifeform: http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Trivial-Encryption.html#Trivial-Encryption << why???
assbot: The GNU C Library: Trivial Encryption ... ( http://bit.ly/1kDEcbH )
mircea_popescu: for the same reason old tripod web pages got a "guestbook"
asciilifeform: 'we do what we must, because we can' ?
mircea_popescu: "This is a good function for hiding information from someone who doesn’t want to see it or doesn’t want to see it very much. "
mircea_popescu: "why is this a good function ?" "because for hiding" "why is something good is not accepting something exists and seeking the ex post facto rationalization of that existence, this isn't fucking school." "oh"
mircea_popescu: basically the problem of all these idiots stems from the twin grasp of a) design is not a deliberate activity but "should arise naturally", like their delusional view of identity, love, hapiness et all ; b) 0 actual experience, entire life lived in the narrow constraints of for-play reality.
asciilifeform: where was that mircea_popescu (?) article re: how a child learns that 'i can create!!1111!!' when he takes his first self-aware shit, and that many people wedge at this blockheight ?
mircea_popescu: calling this mp is a gross misattribution, the idea's old and well discussed/accepted
asciilifeform: yes but there was a particular exposition
mircea_popescu: hm.
asciilifeform: 'featuritis' is an inevitable outgrowth of this particular flavour of insanity, where the sufferer believes that adding anything whatsoever, so long as his 'intentions were pure' or whatnot, is a 'contribution'
asciilifeform: even (especially) if the addition is of his own shit
mircea_popescu: i vaguely remember the thing but i can't tell you which article
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the good news department - progressing illiteracy means they've moved on from featuritis to fixing comments in the code so it no longer includes the string "retarded" and all " he" is replaced with "erzsjebet".
asciilifeform: will be interesting to see the 'fall of constantinopol' moment when linus t. is finally purged
asciilifeform: presently the comments people are yet outside of the walls
asciilifeform: befouling 'node js' and other things which i've never even heard of until their mention in here
mircea_popescu: how exactly would that purge work ?
asciilifeform: i must confess that i do not know about re: the modus operandi, to say precisely
mircea_popescu: but in principle.
asciilifeform: but i imagine they'll install some 'sjw' chick in 'his' place
mircea_popescu: no, but how ?
mircea_popescu: like what happens, google takes his email away gives it to whoever ?
mircea_popescu: so he makes a new email.
asciilifeform: 'dbus', 'kernel systemd', and other filth will be insta-merged in (or rather, usg's pre-readied fork becomes 'blessed')
mircea_popescu: insta merged where by whom ?
mircea_popescu: this is what i'm trying to follow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours is the $64-quadrillion-bezzollar question - what weapon
asciilifeform: i'll say, what weapon:
asciilifeform: device drivers.
mircea_popescu: i still don't get it.
asciilifeform: example. some months ago, i tried one of those 'usb 3.0 to flatpanel' gizmos. ☟︎
asciilifeform: turned out, they ~~ALL~~ use the same chip. and the vendor 'finally knuckled under and released linux drv!!!' to 'great rejoicing of the proletariat.' EXCEPT...
asciilifeform: it isn't a linux drv. it's a closed blob. and works ONLY with ubuntu kernels.
asciilifeform: for reasons that no one was ever bothered to discover.
asciilifeform: these idiocies - are legion.
asciilifeform: and just about every time i try to plug in a piece of hardware too young for the white plastic to have turned a deep spittoon yellow, i encounter them.
asciilifeform: so, as with the fall of the original byzantium, it will be an implosion of an already rotten husk
asciilifeform: it is already quite difficult, bordering on impossible, to run 'vanilla' kernel on anything like consumer hardware.
asciilifeform: and the items which work, or appear to, are hanging on by a thread
asciilifeform: e.g., the traditional standby of 'this vga card WILL work' is... intel's cheapo thing, as in mircea_popescu's thinkpads.
asciilifeform: guess what - NO LONGER releases specs.
mircea_popescu: but this turns out LINUX.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't wedge linus from linux, it wedges linux from the usg world (or vice-versa)
mircea_popescu: for linus it's actually beneficial.
asciilifeform: it wedges out linux. to be replaced with - ubuntu et al.
mircea_popescu: besides the point. under discussion here is specifically the unseating of linus from linux.
asciilifeform: at some point it will be 'unless violet purple signs this kernel, pc you bought at the store won't boot it'
asciilifeform: and linus can go and ???.
asciilifeform: all the 'jwz'-style 'pragmatists' who followed l. will join the 'new linux'.
asciilifeform: y'know, the ones who 'just want it to work'
mircea_popescu: this is not liable to happen.
mircea_popescu: this would be a clarification. usg depends on fog.
asciilifeform: actually it already partially happened
asciilifeform: the 'secure boot' thing, that is
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mircea_popescu: that ahppened in the sense "securom" happened.
mircea_popescu: or w/e the magical measure defeated by magic marker were called
asciilifeform: the extant version is a kind of draft
mircea_popescu: fog.
asciilifeform: yes, you can desolder the rom and rewrite, and have something like a normal box
asciilifeform: BUT you can't remove intel's 'management' fw
asciilifeform: which is where the next incarnation will do the sig check.
mircea_popescu: the moment that happens intel is so dead...
asciilifeform: recall the 'violence without recourse' thing ?
asciilifeform: works both ways, no ?
asciilifeform: what exactly is done after 'intel is so dead' ?
mircea_popescu: kidnap women in the steppes of washington, dc, for sale in the slave market at saigon ?
mircea_popescu: anwyay. the only actually feasible approach is to unfortunate boating accident him, after which yeah, linux'll be all concern trolled into oblivion.
asciilifeform: you left out 'watering the horses in the rhine'
mircea_popescu: meh, the rhine. who cares.
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asciilifeform: the tricky bit is that ru can't even make kalash at scale without 'pentium' now. much less tmsr multiplying primes without all-seeing eye of hitler in the mix.
mircea_popescu: grow more hands!
mircea_popescu: faster!
asciilifeform: l0l
btcdrak: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s0uii/bip_101_has_activated_on_the_testnet_need_your/
assbot: BIP 101 has activated on the testnet. Need your help to test large blocks. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkNVLn )
mircea_popescu: can't possibly hurt.
mircea_popescu: imagine that XT had "consensus" and "expert support" a year before any sort of testing was done whatsoever.
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mircea_popescu: anyway. with any luck we'll be rephrasing Thing 1 to "actual Bitcoin" I guess.
asciilifeform: iirc that was already thing1 ??
mircea_popescu tries to remember who Jonathan Toomim was.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah.
asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining << him ?
assbot: Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsZC6d )
mircea_popescu: o wait, i know now! random guy who joined github in 2015, has absolutely no interests outside of bitcoinxt and totally absolutely is not a transparent front for any institutional player, 100% sure.
mircea_popescu: mmmkay.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah.
mircea_popescu: btcdrak so how's life ?
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: same old same old.
mircea_popescu: you gonna do a qntra piece sometime ?
btcdrak: mircea_popescu: yeah I could. I was thinking about writing something soon
btcdrak: was going to use Medium, but :))
mircea_popescu: much better :)
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BingoBoingo: "The verified Twitter account for Missouri football coach Gary Pinkel has posted a picture of the team and coaches locking arms." << I am more certain Wolfe is out this week, probably Monday, than I am Bitcoin is crossing $400 again this month.
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BingoBoingo: <btcdrak> was going to use Medium, but :)) << You know I've seen a lot of stuff mysteriously vanish from Medium
BingoBoingo: !up hdbuck
hdbuck: bingoboingo oh hello there
BingoBoingo: Hello
BingoBoingo: How have things been where you are?
hdbuck: nothing to report so far, mostly enjoying the show :)
BingoBoingo: cool
hdbuck: ;;later tell pete_dushenski i think you 'withdraw your objection', rather than 'rest your case'. http://qntra.net/2015/10/uber-provides-alibi-for-armed-robbery/#comment-67516 << probably, yes :)
assbot: Uber Provides Alibi for Armed Robbery | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GasnEj )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
hdbuck: am all ears for a btcdrak qntra article regarding the latest xt comedy
btcdrak: did anyone read the Mike Hearn AMA?
hdbuck: first question got my eyes bleed.
btcdrak: it gave me cancer
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3250
assbot: JL: Mourning ‘Smaug’s Shit’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1WHjKIA )
btcdrak: he's not even trying to be sly now, he just outright lies, blatant lies with impunity.
BingoBoingo: "However, it seems the giant pile of heroin I have theorized came into Baltimore in late April, did in fact exist, had been referred to by local low level players as “Smaug’s Shit” after the legendary hoard of the dragon that was the giant villain in J. R. R. Tolkien’s Hobbit story, and has since been plundered by “Dem muvafuckin’ PoPo Dwarf shits.”"
BingoBoingo: !up HostFat
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BingoBoingo: !up Cristina
BingoBoingo: !up hdbuck
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this wouldn't have anything to do with bitterness over payola for "student" athletes hm ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Has more to do with coach Gary Pinkel actually having more leverage with the Board of Trustees than any University or System president.
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: so why they wanna get rid of the wolfe dood ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, you wanna interview him ?
mircea_popescu: offer the guy a honest chance to tell his story plain. im pretty sure he has no offers. get qntra to break the libtard media embargo.
BingoBoingo: They wanna get rid of the Wolfe dude for being white, male, and busy. Chance of snagging the interview is slim, but I may as well try.
mircea_popescu: (should prolly be standing policy - whenever the horde picks a scapegoat, give the scapegoat a forum. if for nothing else then to bother the machine.)
BingoBoingo: Right now the Wolfe guy has a press office.
mircea_popescu: has a press office and exactly 0 pull
mircea_popescu: roughly in the position of that fucktard shrem, "has a lawyer"
mircea_popescu: yeah, he does, and the lawyer's playing for the other team
BingoBoingo: Yeah. They didn't like him earlier because he came into University Presidenting through business.
mircea_popescu: anyway, gotta try. one of these days you're gonna manage to connect a mad dog, and it might even do some damage.
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mircea_popescu: "In the dying days of April 2015, the student body of a City High school picked a fight with the entire Baltimore City Police department, and, as the world watched, won. In the meantime, as these kids basically tried out for membership in the three drug gangs that conspired to set the city on fire while they trucked in unprecedented weight of dope, and gangs of armed black man fanned out across north, northeast, and ea
mircea_popescu: st Baltimore beating lone white men on sight with bats, blubs and bottles, professional break-in crews cleaned out city pharmacies, cell phone stores and jewelers."
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Right now Wolfe is in apology mode. Maybe he'll bite though.
mircea_popescu: gee whiz, sounds like team obama got the country well under control.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's time to call putin, have some peacekeepers sent in ?
mircea_popescu: since they can't manage their own shit worth a damn ? the united failed states ?
BingoBoingo: Mebbe
mircea_popescu: it would be under un mandate. ofcourse.
BingoBoingo: Of course
BingoBoingo: With the MIzzou situation personally I feel the best outcome would be for all parties involved to fuck each other to death. Literally until their spirits leave their bodies.
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
BingoBoingo: But the crazy opposite Wolfe is the greater evil.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b51c7167d6ec495a7a109df4056504c3/tumblr_n81s5bghWL1rl2t88o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYee1h )
BingoBoingo: What is the US coming to though when a well scaled lizard like Wolfe can't use a university gig as a more relaxing way to keep drawing a paycheck in effective retirement.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
BingoBoingo: I fully expect to see a lot more Universities go through this over the next year or two as crazy realizes the football time striking trick works.
mircea_popescu: yup.
BingoBoingo: Because when the coach signs off on it who is some $400k a year president compared to a $2mil+ coach
mircea_popescu: protection racked overheated, and i somehow doubt they'll manage to moderate it back to usable envelope. used to be hillary got donations and grassroot support from wolfe n1...1k on the promise of protection from the democrat footsoldiers and/or hitting the opposition.
mircea_popescu: the problem is they've lost control, the orcs are running amok, and as a result there's not going to be any donations, there's not going to be any electoral support and moreover the opposition can mop up the entire democrat tammany hall machine.
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mod6: New version of V, 99998 K has been posted. Details of changes are outlined in the email. Version 99999 K has been pulled from thebitcoin.foundation mirror, and version 99998 K is now available.
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000178.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] mod6's V [in perl] version 99998 K ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYeZYa )
mod6: Very minor changes were made to the cucumber tests, never-the-less, here's the update there:
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000179.html ☟︎☟︎
assbot: [BTC-dev] mod6's V [in perl] version 99998 K with Cucumber Tests & Testing Guide Included ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYf1zx )
shinohai: thanx mod6 \o/
shinohai: Also, happy MSR birfday.
mod6: yw!
mod6: yup, happy TMSR day all.
mircea_popescu: i can't possibly have more champagne but i'm celebrating with milk.
kakobrekla: have some kefir :p
shinohai: I had a bottle of Mogen David sitting around. I drank that.
mircea_popescu: these schmucks know nothing of anything. i can't pickle cabbage because in spite of not having proper picking barrels, yet i found something, and in spite of not having picking salt, except i found some (they use it for curing meat!) and in spite of not having etc etc,
mircea_popescu: they have no fucking HORSERADISH
mircea_popescu: i've not had decent yogurt since istanbul.
BingoBoingo: Ty all for the reminder
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BingoBoingo: How do you not have horseradish? In these parts we have festivals to celebrate it. http://www.internationalhorseradishfestival.com/
assbot: Interntational Horseradish Festival HOME ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYgm9j )
deedbot-: [Qntra] The Most Serene Republic Celebrates First Birthday - http://qntra.net/2015/11/the-most-serene-republic-celebrates-first-birthday/
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude, it's insane. im gonna end up making jewish pickles with wasabi
BingoBoingo: Most wasabi around here is just dyed and very finely grated horseradish
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s20zy/its_been_a_year/
assbot: It's been a year : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1XYgBRO )
mircea_popescu: kinda my point
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: dude this bash is fabulous
shinohai: You can use the leftover alum from pickling to tighten vaginas apparently: http://www.vaginal-tightening.com/alum-for-vaginal-tightening.php
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kakobrekla: wtf i get 403 forbidden
mircea_popescu: i don't use alum.
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shinohai: I have had alum in my house for shaving purposes forever.
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mircea_popescu: my grandfather used to use it. i never cared for the thing myself.
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shinohai: http://forklog.net/longread-clash-of-generations-and-cryptotechnologies/ <<< heh ☟︎
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shinohai: Sorry wrong link: https://www.hackread.com/kid-who-hacked-cia-boss-hacks-fbi/ ☟︎
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ben_vulpes: who owns tinder?
ben_vulpes: it's one of the few wobbly pillars left supporting facebook.
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mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes match.com, plenty of fish, okcupid tinder and the rest of the lesser known implementations of the social media dating scam are all owned by iac. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (chemistry.com howaboutwe etc)
mircea_popescu: they own zillions of spamsites, pretty much in every language iirc.
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mircea_popescu: anyway, iac certainly stands to gain the most should the general gullible public be persuaded that normal social interaction "could be" rape. ☟︎
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jurov tries to compile #include <string.h> int main(){char *foo ="abcd"; memfrob(foo);}
jurov weeps
jurov: last time i binge read glibc info, it ended on strfry
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deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] It takes more than time. It takes generations. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/08/it-takes-more-than-time-it-takes-generations/
jurov: in other news, our city currently lives by unknown hero, who literally smears shit on womens' faces on streets and buses
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ben_vulpes: jurov: sounds like san francisco
jurov: i don't believe that would create buzz in sf