mod6: yeah, srsly, thx jurov -- works good for me now too.
mod6: And now I'm not personally hosting the foundation website, so that'll save me some pocket-lint.
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mod6: mircea_popescu: Hi Sir, if I win the auction here, how would you like me to settle? Via btc from deedbot-wallet, or via ECU and trade in eulora (this may take a day or so to exchange my BTC into ECU hope this isn't a big deal).
mod6: Also, if you need instructions for wire, can re-send ofc.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-23 14:07 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz, 158.69.54.79:8333 /therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/ (70001) << wtf ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: ok cool, if you don't mind then, I'll probably just do deedbot wallet since it's a bit quicker for me.
mod6: asciilifeform: thanks for the extra info there. I did check the two IPs myself too, no worky. I figure, the man has a -10 from Mr. Popescu, and no longer visits this chamber. Ergo, he's ejected.
mod6: He can come back here and make his case, should he even have one. Which, by my measure, he does not. But that's up to mircea_popescu.
mod6: Speaking of hockey... played in another game. Wasn't nearly as out-of-shape as last time. No goals though, but 2 assists, 7 SOG, 1 Hit.
mod6: Someday, I'd like to get the chance to play in a pick-up game with President Putin.
mod6: Nothing serious, just a friendly game of 4:4 perhaps.
mod6: ikr; I'm not even close to that level. The guys that I've been playing with are ex-college guys, which, are for sure better than I am.
mod6: Although, I'm surprised that they're not ~that~ much better..
mod6: Skill goes up the more you practice and play with people whom are better than you are, ofc. For a old-guy pick up game, can fit in even if not as skilled as most, as long as they're not trying too hard.
mod6: If they're going hard, and in good shape, can get rough for d00dz like ole mod6.
mod6: Well... that kinda depnds. Yes and no.
mod6: If a guy is huge, but can't skate, then maybe he has an advantage as a shitty defensemen -- plopping him in front of the net to keep the crease clear.
mod6: If a guy is huge and can skate well, then more options for versitility.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, it's all a big highschool cafeteria party, and one gets to pick and choose "his way in life" etc. it all follows, from the insane perspective, its own insane logic etc.
mircea_popescu: it's what THESE other-goth-kids do. what was the draw originally ?
mod6: yeah, exactly. prb is fake-cheese, for losers. can't hack it with the republic, the false choice is thinking that they have an alternative - a loser one at at that. but there really is no alternative. no matter how much you wish it to be REAL cheese, it is not, and never will be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's literally, "not band practice anymore, now art class". different locker for your shit, but still a) locker and b) some shit. guitars, make-up, whatever. props.
mircea_popescu: the truth is that there's a bunch of reasons people will follow you / come to your house / whatever. and there's this recurrent element of "why can't everyone just get along / this is what we're all doing" sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: same fundamental problem, "hey man, i just derp here, it's just a gig, it's not my life" issues.
mircea_popescu: can\t even say i blame the peterls / peteds/etcs all that much. they're like those fish, found large female blob to attach to, dispensed of organs etc, now she pumps nutrients.
mircea_popescu: (i don't blame wife, either. what's she to do, stuck with big child ? nurture, nurture.
mircea_popescu: you recall those cases of calcified foeti, 30+yrs old, from early modern surgery reports ?
mod6: "Here, lemme jus ram this house-plant in there and see if that does the trick..."
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 18:27 asciilifeform: ( iirc symmetric keys are supplied, per protocol, by client, so not an issue there )
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 20:41 asciilifeform: ( no prizes for guessing why holyshit.png doesn't appear in the orig 'serpent' paper, or the mountain of 'analysis' ... )
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:09 zx2c4: why does the government have an interest in me hearing about nadia's work rather than your work?
mircea_popescu: that's ok, because while nadia waits the future is female, and once "nadia's done waiting" then it ALWAYS HAD IT.
mircea_popescu: in fact, everything but the dog pissing their dreams into magic smoke, is female.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:16 mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
mircea_popescu: in other news, the immensity of republican priviledge, you know ? here we sit and, with-subject-and-predicate, piss downwards on the entirety of academia, like so much midly retarded children playdo "art".
a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 23:04 asciilifeform: ( by a certain mugurel.andreica<at>cs.pub.ro . wonder if spyked et al know the fella )
mircea_popescu: a little boy rubs a found bottle, and asks the genie coming out... what ? what can you ask ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ubb = universitatea babes bolyay. cluj item. old man andreica's son was at teh politechnic. diff school.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and yes, personally knew father. sorta like that other google guy.
mircea_popescu: most of hungarian culture is the result of cluj people. when i say transylvania is the larger part of two adjacent countries i kid you not, it's true.
mircea_popescu: timis is (or rather, was) the larger part of serbja keks.
mircea_popescu: besides, what's a mocky needed for, i got a corp and everytrhing right there
mircea_popescu: they don't got the guts to qatar/burma anymore, that's for damn sure.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 21:16 asciilifeform: 'First of all you can’t get power to charge your laptop. Anywhere. Electrical outlets in customer areas: it’s just not done here' << sounds like the ultimate trial for us x60 folk
mircea_popescu: "It’s not that everything closes, or even that most things close. Just wherever you are going will be closed." << fucking orcistans, all alike.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1004: 9.5k wFF q0 Opening: 1.5bn ecu Leading Bid: 1.5bn ecu Ending: 2018-10-31 17:00:23.871700 UTC (1 hours 18 mins)
mod6: Ah dang it. It ok if we just settle up tomorrow then? /me needs some zzz's.
mod6: Ok thanks! We'll catch back up tomorrow for sure.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1004 has ENDED: 9.5k wFF q0 SOLD to mod6 for 1.5bn ecu. Attn: mircea_popescu
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 03:23 mircea_popescu: Mocky pedistrian. << pede.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-11 13:47 diana_coman: was it the time of day/light that made that "my view" picture so sandy-looking?
Mocky: orange tint that my eyes seemingly adjusted for
BingoBoingo: Reading the Mocky blog, I do not think I can survive the local sun exposure. Not without locals that make themselves available for oppression more readily
mod6: !!pay mircea_popescu 1.50000001
☟︎ mod6: !!v 2BB04EA206BDE7D139C9C3E24DE128B9E1FE22A7DECB81CFE322C22BD520A0F9
deedbot: mod6 paid mircea_popescu 1.50000001
mod6: Sweet, thanks mircea_popescu!
mircea_popescu: "act like a normal nation" aka "don't be a sociopath/psychopath" aka "please recognize incan notions of Holy Mother and Her most reserved role in the playground".
mircea_popescu: the traditional romanian "o fut pe ma-ta" seems particularily crafted for the occasion of interacting with pantsuit. because, literally, io asta fac : le fut mamica.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that'd be the end of the world. part of the problem of the usecase (eulora comms) is that you have highly structured inputs.
mircea_popescu: and it turns out qatar is actually more important for india than india itself realises : it's where the aspie indie elite goes to learn to be "gay", ie, "i can't get any cunt anyway, might as well get used to living with another dude, wardrobe as well as everything else comes cheaper this way, cheap enough in fact for even scum like me to get some".
mircea_popescu: a skill that'll prove most important in their own fucking country, last i heard all the fuckable women they grew locally they exported
mircea_popescu: aactually... i guess i should've left that as a comment on the article in q. brb.
Mocky: mircea_popescu, ok, thx
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right but it seems to me trivially easy to select among 4 possibles seeing how you know "this is a game packet, gotta have so and so serial and so and so id etc"
mircea_popescu: the drawback is that now you mix game code into crypto lib, to discriminate possibles.
mircea_popescu: if 1layer then there's no space for your other-sequence.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 16:55 mircea_popescu: Mocky Your comment on the following post is awaiting moderation:
http://mocky.org/Souq-Waqif/ << nice cgi work keks
mircea_popescu: we've been talking about c-s for what, 3+ years ? it's still in the same phase.
mircea_popescu: im not attached to serpent in any way other than in the following sense you're well fucking advised to pay attention to : 1. s.mg is a corporation, meaning ith's here to make money. 2. s.mg is also trying, but as a fucking distant second, to be a "good" corporation, however that is politically defined. it doesn't give a fuck about this, not in any deep sense, if the money's good it'll go against policy, and CHANGE policy as i
mircea_popescu: t's doing it. because this is what la serenissima is all about -- the doge back in venice is more then welcome to wholeheartedly support whatever the fuck the merchants on the blue find correct just and expedient.
mircea_popescu: 3. s.mg tried to be the one fucking thing in its line with encrypted comms, for which purpose it attempted to take some guidance and apply it in practice. NOW, after the money's spent, and the work put in, now smartass-architect comes by to explain "how arches really should be" and "why these arches are terrible". this is worse than useless. not a little worse than useless -- much, MUCH worse than useless. all it does is get
mircea_popescu: not for his crime of "being smart" and "figuring out the true truth". but for his crime of saying things out of time. because there was a fucking time for this discussion, and it was strictly BEFORE s.mg paid money for people to work their ass off in preference of playing with their kids to get it a serpent.
mircea_popescu: so the way this is going now -- serpent is going to be perfectly good (tm) for the republic, because the republic is the republic of slow moving, mentally confused morons that miss their opportunities to speak usefully.
mircea_popescu: i ain't about to change the code i have for a theory that might maybe work because the theory behind the code i have might maybe not work according to this drawing.
mircea_popescu: for all i know, just about the time i'm done uprooting this and planting that, you'll be geniusing the exact same thing about that. i have 0 confidence this won't happen, specifically because of historical evolution, and so...
mircea_popescu: Mocky "After enough conversations with chicks I found the pattern. They talk the same by race, they act the same they think the same. It’s like NPCs backed by a bored dialog writer wielding a Markov chain." << honestly, i dunno how much time you spent talking with us-born chickies, but the EXACT SAME THING APPLIES. and they even actively work to create such systematic nonsense,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-31#1867831 bein
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-10-31 00:12 mircea_popescu: in-group signalling, obviously someone not in-group would not say "drumpf" just like that.
mircea_popescu: g a point in case. if she's aspiring to "work for the government" she'll tell you about how unfair it is for blacks, if she aspires to work "for tech" she'll tell you how bad homeless are, if she wants to marry and dependopopotamusize she'll tell you handgun stats, whatever.
mircea_popescu: this notion of "be anyone" etc is entirely fabricated, out of the venom of mother inca and the overactive brains of idle smart boys. nobody agrees with it, nothing agrees with it in practice, it never is nor ever was nor ever could be found in nature... it's like you thinking santa claus is real.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i foresaw this need, in 2015. i put 10 btc behind encouraging people to fix the problem. it died an ignominous death, what i have is serpent, that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: i saw the problem, in advance, i did my best to solve it, this is what came out of that.
mircea_popescu: maybe you're magical and have this option of going back in time, and good for you. i do not.
mircea_popescu: and if you're curious -- the reason they "whisper" is because they have 0 confidence there's any listeners. and listener means a very specific thing : the sort of person who both a) meets the intelligence bar AND!!! ALSO!!!! b) does not hallucinate options. such as "oh, dun need to do this now."
mod6: mircea_popescu: on it.
mircea_popescu: i suspect, if you care to know, that you have a major problem in that you only want to work on anything once it's too late. not coincidentally, but structurally, it being too late is principally part of the criteria impelling you to work.
mircea_popescu: this discussion'd have been useful ~before~. after, it's spurious.
mod6: mircea_popescu: let me know if you have any questions, ofc.
mircea_popescu: and yes, ima implement "a cipher alf doesn't like" over alf's objections. because the only way alf'd be a stakeholder in this is... if... he had participated at a usefgul time. not at the time he felt like.
mircea_popescu: in the sense of "wait for diana_coman to publish ada code and then i'll maybe give it 6 hours of attention". that's your 3years
mircea_popescu: looky, the past 3 days' work could have been done just as well in 2015 as today.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the only different element is that today, unlike in 2015 (and not even RIGHT NOW, today as in this year) diana_coman published serpent code.
mircea_popescu: is the idea more along then lines of "i knew about this all along, just didn't feel about telling you schmucks anything until after you poured cement" ? rather than "i literally could not be arsed to even look at this until someone poured some cement somewhere so i could pester them then" ?
mircea_popescu: understand the position here : code (practice) <-> algos (theory). we currently have actual code for an algo that you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done the work to turn that suggestive theory in practice) and suggest replacement algos (but not done work again). my option is to either put in 0 work for 0 result, or else put in x work for 0 result.
mircea_popescu: it's, as they call in busioness, "a no brainer" -- i ain't doing jack.
mircea_popescu: yes, im going to use a shittier-than-hoped for cipher, for lack of alternative.
mircea_popescu: i specificalyl said "time for btmsr cipher competition was 2015 -- it died".
mircea_popescu: im not hiring anyone to do it, not anymore. tried and failed.
mircea_popescu: they can go to a posh afair and show the designs to each other.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, maybe your thread. my thread was re "are we fucking idiots ?! we have a foundation that wants to publish statements of the nothing as its only output, we have a bunch of smart people not helping our own industry avoid pitfals, and in this vein forever"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's not even clear what makes us so damned good, atm.
mircea_popescu: why is s.mg better off with republican stack than with java stack ? it's still using serpent!
mircea_popescu: might as well capitalize on Mocky 's experience turn it into a ruby gem, yes ?
mircea_popescu: good thing we have strong entreopy, to run serpent off it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's obvious, we don't even know serpent is in fact no good, hence "you persuasively suggest may not be good (but not actually done the work to turn that suggestive theory in practice)"
a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:15 asciilifeform: motherFUCKing whisperers.
mircea_popescu: it's healthy, let alone necessary, to rage in certain circumstances. this here being a fine fucking example -- because i still not for a second believe had you earnestly sat ass down in 2015 you couldn't have earned that 10 coin.
mircea_popescu: and i have like a strong suspicion that nothing else you did hence had the same btc/hour return, either.
mircea_popescu: yes, but wrong approach to it all! "here's why serpent's no good, here's why i don't like dea-aes etc, here's rabin method, imo best" IS something.
mircea_popescu: as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> as much as you have now, could have been had then! for, literally, 1-2 man-days, at teh most. you dispute this ?" "<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: nope. couldn't" "<mircea_popescu> sooo! what portion of this do you dispute ?" "<asciilifeform> that 'could have then' "
mircea_popescu: so a review of extant candidates is not a self-obvious first step in attempting to sit down for such a competition ?
mircea_popescu: here's the one point i am making, overarchingly and i should hope as loudly as humanly possible : ~THERE IS MAJOR BREAKAGE IN THE EVAL FUNCTION~, whereby man looks at 10btc in 2015, thinks "$500" or w/e it was, and then goes "the amt of anti-superficial $500 buys me is one hour, not one day nor one week".
mircea_popescu: BECAUSE, bitcoin, and ~everything else in the republic this bitcoin is the currency of, ~~~EVERYTHING ELSE~~~~ has a very unlinear time function.
mircea_popescu: dimes from 2015 are millions in 2020, this sort of thing.
mircea_popescu: but the manager in me wouldn't never buy it, because management goes a certain way, and distrusts a certain way.
mircea_popescu: but this aside -- i suspect you also don't work... how shall i put this... everyone's eval-er that keeps them from making coffin liners works on some heuristics. and i suspect your heuristics are out of whack with the insanity that is bitcoin. ie, the important and the unimportant don't get all that clearly separated.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ty. will proceed forthwith, shall keep you posted.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, thank you for the liquidity
mircea_popescu: hey, "why didn't you see the goat" is in the end a boundless question, "i just fucking didn't. i don';t know why, obviously it's there, but i did not see it"
mircea_popescu: comes up in eg expert oncologist training lots more than anyone'd like.
mircea_popescu: anyway, no, i'm not married to serpent. i don't even fucking like it that much. i even said so!
mircea_popescu: it does ~seem~ to be weaker than my own intel indicates, but fuck that spot.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: entirely possibly ; wouldn't even be the first time, at that.
mircea_popescu: F(A)->B : bijective : each A has one and exactly one B correspondent. injective : each A has one value ; surjective if each B is corresponded.
mircea_popescu: nfi what anglo terminology is, but -- obviously all bijective functions are reversible ; however there's TWO ways in which to not be bijective.
mircea_popescu: i am mentioning it for completeness. lose ~something~, yes.
mircea_popescu: imo there's a difference between "the hash for this plaintext is undefined" and "we've divided the space of possible plaintexts in synonimy rings for your convenience (which we separated packagely)."
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to it : "blockcipher takes 10 bits of P and no more ; spits out 16 bits of E exactly" a) needs entropy and b) probably reduces to rsa-with-oaep.
mircea_popescu: whole fucking point here is -- we already have strong crypto, can we also get strong (or at least strong-ish) ciphro.
mircea_popescu: imo very good key expander, other than the fact it's kinda slow.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-30 19:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, how about this : let K being the key n bits long (say 512), and let f(x) = 2 * K[0] * x ^ n + 3 * K[1] * x ^ n-1 + 5 * K[2] * x ^ n-2 + 7 * K[3] * x ^ n-3 + 11 * K[4] * x ^ n-4 +...+ 3643 * K[n-2] * x ^ 2 + 3659 * K[n-1] * x + 3659. f(x) will produce a pile of bits, this pile is cut in half and xored together, the result is cut in half again. one such half is returned as the prng output ; the other such half
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with using the RSA as the f, but idea remains.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fact, as eulora comms mandate the parties know at least one rsa key of each other, it becomes eminently possible to use (session-based!) n1*n2 for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: in which case yes, it'd seem at least one workable method is for parties to declare F=RSA-n1n2(x) and then use its spew as otp pad for all their stuff.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i'm not calibrated by you wth. srsly, what you did to serpent wasn't stroke of genius, but simply spade work. you dispute this ?!
mircea_popescu: and very good that you did it, and yes for some-incomprehensible-reason "people" dun seem to be ever doing it, but it's still what it fucking is -- self evident and systematically applicable to any and all other ciphers.
mircea_popescu: taking the evident and less fraught example of phuctor -- yes, "tel you what, ima dake djb results and apply!", genius. but "let's actually divide some numbers" absolutely spade, and it is this latter that yielded.
mircea_popescu: yes, well, the entirety of the morning's discussion reduces to "what the fuck've you been spading, i only hear about serpent-this nao".
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is a major (if unsurprising) moral of this story : always start with what htey don't discuss.
mircea_popescu: they didn't discuss factored keys re rsa, everything and anything but that -- we went ther,e it yielded.
mircea_popescu: the point you make re serpent is solid -- discussions, by the dumptruck. of anything and everything BUT. went there, yielded within the week.
mircea_popescu: gotta become standard republican behaviour, insta-go into the silence.
mircea_popescu: "what's the only salient point of #metoo '''mopvement''' aka morons on usg.ugc sites ?" "that it only attaches to people who don't laugh at them."
mircea_popescu: you're very fucking adverse, cuz you have complicated pre-spading requirements.
mircea_popescu: im not disputing you're consciously trying to overcome it. but as a factual matter -- yes, very adverse.
mircea_popescu: we're not even talking "magic number only dragons know" sorta items here. take the easy example of "go dig up qatar/uruguay/whatever", not because im trying to underhandedly make you move but because it's a fabulously easy to see example.
mircea_popescu: yes, but asciilifeform is not because complicated pre-spading requirements, not because asciilifeform ~actually is not~.
mircea_popescu: and this exact same problem translates in the realm of theoretical work, also.
mircea_popescu: take
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-24#1844323 ; the one thing the bimbo whose summaries you don't like and whose marked improvement over time you disparage had to say was "oh, great idea. we did that at purdue, made a lot of money." she happens to be right, too ; she also hasn't the decades of doing this. or anything else, for that matter -- she can barely speak english.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-08-24 18:39 mircea_popescu: a shop of used computer parts is a great complement for a dc op.
mircea_popescu: the only passible definition of intelligence i am aware of is, "the reunion of fields of human activity where the time-function has no age-relation."
mircea_popescu: so yes, in ballet. BUT THERE ONLY, for the purposes of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: yes, basketball-ballet and stripper-ballet and all other ballets.
mircea_popescu: and this, because Mocky had decades talking to orcs that alf didn't get ?
mircea_popescu: funny thing this tarent, that's at the same time lale and turns out to be arways thele.
Mocky: I didn't have any more experience talking to orcs than chatting up chicks or writing c++, or rebuilding my bike engine back in the day, or fixing a million and one things for the first time. I don't know shit about shit. I never did
Mocky: i know about raising kids, now that they are grown. and I know about java now that I'm sick of it
Mocky: but there's no way this kind of spade work is going to be harder than trying to wrap my head around code for hours. I always came out on top of the code, so what I'm not gonna figure out how to talk to people if actually try?
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 17:49 asciilifeform: could have lived for 100 yrs and looked daily and not found.
Mocky: unrelatedly, "In its IPO prospectus, Qatar Aluminium Manufacturing Company said one of the strategic objectives is to maximize shareholder returns by increasing financial returns." -Gulf Times fishwrap
mircea_popescu: hey, if there didn't exist a bunch of unwashed morons polluting san francisco bay area, such obvious statements wouldn't be needed.
mircea_popescu: buit as it is -- it's good to know they aim to make money as opposed to satisfy the tweeting hordes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of "taking suggestions" : suppose you bake me a proper drop-in gpg replacement. in ada, constant time, does FG-aware keygen, signing, verification, and encryption/decription. 100% rsa, none of the "cipher" bs as per current.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ima pay s.nsa a coupla bitcoin for your trouble, and donate the result to the republic, in lieu of donating moar money to the dead end foundation.
mircea_popescu: ideally also has compatibility layer, which allows it to import gpg 2.0 and 1.4 style keys (and converts them to republican format), verify gpg 2.0 and 1.4 sigs and decrypt gpg 2.0 and 1.4 messages (but not encrypt to them).
mircea_popescu: well, drop-in in the sense that once it's published ima ask trinque for a timetable for moving deedbot to using it ; and future aspirants to registration will have to use it, bake their own equivalent, or get lost.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with giving that a breather, see where heroes may lie hidden in the woodwork.
mircea_popescu: exact sort of thing the very bite-ful "fuck you, world, you're not good enough to play" is articulated out of.
bvt: can't say these results are any useful until i write a summary (todo for saturday).
bvt: i also intend to genesis a ffatronic base64 encoder/decoder that i wrote as an exercise (also todo for the weekend).
bvt: mircea_popescu: acronym from my name
BingoBoingo: In local news, some old dryed up bag is talking about how Uruguay should break off relations with Brasil.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the talking bags don'\t actually do anything or matter in any sense. it's like going "i wonder why dickens' characters didn't murder dickens, he's such a tedious pile of crap"
mircea_popescu: how THE FUCK are figments of imagination gonna kill some dude ?
BingoBoingo: You poison a rando you gotta poison the rando stoolies or pay them off to not notice you poisoned the rando they were told to keep tabs on in exchange for getting prettier twinks in their block
mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, if those characters lucked out with a better author, they wouldn't be so fork-eyeingly boring and trite and omfg enough already.
mircea_popescu: you're contemplating something along the lines of "today nov 1st the sun rose because someone said ''the sun also rises'' in a book"
BingoBoingo: Today the sun did not in fact rise. At some point the thick clouds dispersed and it was already up
mircea_popescu: ro is "ciinii latra, caravana trece", ie, dogs bark, caravan passes, which imo slightly better.
BingoBoingo: Local medical student was stabbed and body dumped on Playa Ramirez near Parque Rodo. Peruana's interpretation is "Don't walk Playa Pocitos so late at night"
mircea_popescu: fact : no female that sucked a mean cock was ever stabbed at night.
BingoBoingo: I don't know everything going on on the west side of Bulevard Artigas, but on my side the people getting robbed are getting robbed repeatedly because they can't quit their prey behaviors
BingoBoingo: There's folks who whine in the paper that everyone in their family has been robbed twice, yet they fail to wonder "is something wrong with my family?"
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, asciilifeform has met me in person and confirm I am not built like a person who should be seeking out fights. Yet... It isn't rare to be walking about and the sight of some local dork fires something in the brain roughly equivalent to "they aren't as opprosed as they are signalling they should be"
BingoBoingo: Right, because why when the local orcs themselves are the softest targets
BingoBoingo: It appears to take the occurrence of a serious cascade of failure.
BingoBoingo: And most of the self identified repeat victims don't recieve more than whatever bumps were necessary to abscond with their shit
shinohai: Heya asciilifeform .... stopped in to grab some keyz from deedbot, gonna try and update my trb with yer patches
trinque: I've lived in some pretty terrible shitholes, always seems that the ones that get picked out on the street wanted to be, on some level
shinohai: hola trinque que hay de bueno?
trinque: hackin up the rest of this loser flu that stood no chance.
shinohai: Just battled a round of that meself and won. Whiskey and limon ^.^
shinohai feels nostalgic watching a trb happily sing along again ....