kakobrekla just saw a 1990 movie 'Hardware', subtitled 'you can't stop pr0gr355'
kakobrekla: still on server can give link if anyone wants.
shinohai: link me, I'll save it for when I have insomnia
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kakobrekla: ill move to another boxen and leave link in public for a short while.
pete_dushenski: that wallpaper looks like bad bathroom tile from the 60s
pete_dushenski: liking the gym space but junky equipment needs a refresh
trinque: lol @ moore having a home gym
trinque: some rooms are nice, others entirely haphazard
pete_dushenski: tg2 looks to be only available in us and uk markets. sorry canuckians.
pete_dushenski: ftr i think that hammond, may, and clarkson are past their prime and should hang up their towels
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pete_dushenski: pretty sure i have vlc on an older machine, i'll make it work
kakobrekla: anyway, its not at the level of 'brazil' but had lulz
trinque: brazil is one of my favorite films
kakobrekla: brazil i have on home server, would need to upload.
pete_dushenski: trinque: i haven't seen it myself, seen it in the logs who knows how many times
phf: pete_dushenski: fyi, it's available freely on kat.cr, probably can be downloaded at pipe saturation level, rather then pulling it from someone's
http kakobrekla: brazil: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:FD297C623222220A30A90D66EBAD7BFE292EA0C8&dn=brazil+1985+720p+brrip+x264+yify&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
pete_dushenski: i dun really torrent so i think i'll stick with the yt :)
nubbins`: been a while since i tried a mystery-viewing
nubbins`: plus i so rarely have occasion to download large files
nubbins`: it's nice to exercise the fiber, even if it seems a bit slow
nubbins`: i'm probably going backwards to toronto or montreal first
nubbins`: so i had to download a font yesterday for a client project. txt file in folder says "this font was created for the first ever european furry convention"
trinque: your client's a furry, dude
trinque: where else could he have seen it?!
nubbins`: while i do own a full-body wolf suit, i've never had sex or masturbated while wearing it
Apocalyptic: kakobrekla, thanks, can you provide a sha256sum of the file ?
kakobrekla: Apocalyptic 1aa710beb9f8d464756dd50a0484d60b563e2aab623aff6444b2dc4a4dccd0e2 Hardware.1990.BDRip.576P.X264.AC3-UNiQUE.mkv
nubbins`: hal is not the same without the soup strainer
nubbins`: peaked at 3.3MB/s, notbadforeuro.jpg
nubbins`: they still make new commercials from time to time
nubbins`: srsly, one day "who is this man standing next to joanne mcleod?"
pete_dushenski: o good god hal looks like a street corner fallel stand operator
nubbins`: dory tried to climb up onto my shoulders as i stood up ;/
nubbins`: maybe the most outta-focus picture i've ever taken
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mats: looks like illegal drugs mate
mats: prepare to be deported
gribble: Naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 11 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Naphex> clients get tracked and the rewards are sticky
mike_c: ;;later tell Naphex I may have some need for order matching code. I'd be interested in talking about btcxchange codebase sometime if you're interested
phf: according to bitcoin script documentation "Some of the more complicated opcodes are disabled out of concern that the client might have a bug in their implementation" (
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script). an example of disabled script OP_CAT, Concatenates two strings
Naphex: mike_c: i was just about to go to sleep but shoot me a privmsg tomorrow
phf: i'm either missing some hidden issues, or this literally says "some aspect of scripts are unimplemented, because memory manipulation is too hard"
pete_dushenski: i just might have to take a crack at brazil myself then
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i saw it, and i think it's great. just... writing's not automatic!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the magic moment is the part where you go "and yet unlike every other bucket of lick-a-squid shit, the maker of this one was clearly aware. wtf ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: and .HTM like it's 1993 and microsoft dreamweaver, and "Failed to connect to server. The reason may be that the encryption methods supported by the server are not enabled in the security preferences." and aww.
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mats: such an obsession with feces here
mircea_popescu: "Ultimately it's undergirded by one of the great intellectual fallacies of modern times, the obsession with structure as opposed to content. If structure is all important, then if two conflicts have similar structure, they are similar."
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, I heard it's now rude to say "blind" in the us, one must say "visually challenged"
mircea_popescu: "In fact, most people are out of their depth in a mud puddle."
mircea_popescu: "Mostly it's laziness (or shallowness) and an attempt to seize the moral high ground. It's hard to defend specific issues when you're confronted by someone who simply rejects your basic premises. How do you find out what lines of argument they would find persuasive? (Hint: ask them. Say "what exactly would you accept as proof that I'm right?" Most of the time they don't have a clue, because most people only think about
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, for all the people who have all sorts of malformed opinions, cvasi-ideas and ready judgement about "how mp is!11" stemming out of some sort of emotional knee jerk over me not caring for whatever pet peeve of theirs, NONE to date has actually tried the "hey mp, what'd it take to convince you feminists are not retarded children and socialism is really the path to go!"
mircea_popescu: not even a weapon. they also don't craft houses, or water pipes.
mats: asciilifeform: cool
mircea_popescu: nm back now. i swear it was dead for a coupl;a minutes
phf: part of upcoming mp vs. mpaa
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: any chance we might see log1 again in the near future ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i dun recall what the problem was with it, i think it mostly fell through the cracks for lack of pressing need. the server's up at any rate.
mats: this penning's thing is turning out to be as much work as the rest of the key server comined
mats: Maintains the strong set, displays some statistics as to it in the manner of Penning's thing [
http://pgp.cs.uu.nl] <<
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: iirc you pointed the finger at kako and he pointed it back at you. in any event, i'd like to see it back up. never know when said pressing need might arise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is the lemonade stand <=> dope slinging ?
mircea_popescu: strangely enough, the dsm-ud did not have a heading for "bush-reactive psychopathy"
pete_dushenski: "Out there in the real world, none of the disasters their party predicted have actually come to pass. President Obama just keeps failing to fail. And that’s a big problem for the G.O.P. — even bigger than Donald Trump."
mircea_popescu: "Hey, who wouldn't vote for Morgan Freeman? Obama is unabashedly liberal, intelligent, and acts like he knows it. He's "uppity." People who think they're superior run headlong into someone who is superior, and they don't like it."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i rarely get to read folk who at the same time seem able to find their way out of a paper bag and actually believe obama similarly could.
mircea_popescu: but i mean... sure, he's uppity. i have yet to see a sign of intelligence.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i kinda don't look at that part, because plenty of orthodox nuts otherwise very intelligent.
mircea_popescu: i am not a person in the sense of this rootless, hopeless lotus floating on a sea that somehow is owned byu "the state".
mircea_popescu: i am the proud result of an endless line that predates all states, and the fucking lake, the lake's bottom, and the core of the earth are mine.
mircea_popescu: so... take teh "oh you didn't create" talk an' dangle.
mircea_popescu: no state ever created anything. it was another mircea that carried the fucking head of the turk pasha after that one failed crusade when all of europe ran off and the us wasn't invented yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, but i care what he asks like i care what the mosquito buzzes.
mircea_popescu: he'd better buzz out of range, if it knows what's good for its retirement plan.
mircea_popescu: Conservatives oppose abortion but are okay with war and capital punishment. (So am I - I think everyone in the capital deserves to be punished)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes ? mod6 ? any of you went home with mosquito bite ? << heheh. i might have gotten a bite or two. i paid them back ~10x iirc.
mod6: where i live these things are not just a nuisance like in .ar, but ubiquitous
mod6: 'tis one of the reasons i enjoyed camping in the west so much, back east the mosquitoes try to carry you away.
mircea_popescu: "More specifically, nobody wants a meritocracy based on actual accomplishment. What both camps really want is a meritocracy of values, that is, an aristocracy in which position is dictated by attitude and conduct."
mircea_popescu: "hola nos quedamos sin trabajo mi esposo y yo y busco ayuda economica a cambio de sex para asi poder ahorrar algo y poner un negocio soy ama de casa no modelo ni profecional en esto soy bajita 36 años"
mircea_popescu: (housewife wants money to get sex change operation to earn money to start a business)
mircea_popescu: this has got to be some sort of very specialised praying on aging usian expats.
mircea_popescu: it makes no sense outside of "a collection of fetishes liable to drive a 60 yo protestant dude with money"
mircea_popescu: in this vein : went to pharmacy here, told pharmacist what i want, he went and fetched. cox-2 inhibitor, no prescription needed becasuse the criteria in argentina is "do you speak the language ? if not, get someone who does to write what you need down for you"
mircea_popescu: msotly banned because the idiots prescribed them like they prescribe anything, "forever", and they don't work forever.
mircea_popescu: but still unparalleled for extemporaneous intervention.
mircea_popescu: and this was produced by merck. for "export", ie, "to be sold in sane countries"
mircea_popescu: for their effectual purpose, good for a decade or more.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile usians with the same sort of problem get substandard care in the shape of cox-1&2 inhibitors in massive dossage.
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mircea_popescu: (if anyone is curious - yes the pharmacist tested me. he asked "what dosage ?" and i said uh... 100... maybe 50, no, not really. 80 ? turns out he had 60, 90 and 120. because 50 is not really quite enough and 100 is maybe a little too much, but if those are the options go for 100
mircea_popescu: they're petrified of "insecuridad" these folks. like they live with the vikings or something.
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mircea_popescu: and the people who actually have the whole story do not reaslly employ safes
mircea_popescu: or at least a story on my blog tends to support this theory.
mircea_popescu: like "global warming" flavour of "uncontroversial". like lysenko "uncontroversial"
mircea_popescu: like psychological school of moscow "uncontroversial". asshats.
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mircea_popescu: anwyay, lest we be too harsh on the social pseudoscientists that gotta eat,
mircea_popescu: one must remember the fabled charge of the electorn measurements.
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punkman: "Irwin Lipkin, 77, agreed he owes the government a Rolex watch, a well-known painting by Red Skelton and $170 billion cash on Monday, and was sentenced to six months in jail Wednesday"
punkman: "Lipkin also agreed to give up a vacation home in Delray Beach, Florida as part of his plea deal, but he was allowed to keep another home in New Jersey, his stamp collection and another Red Skelton painting."
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shinohai: Pray he comes back from Dubai and politely pays you in full cazalla ? Like Krapeles
punkman: "GAW Miners failed to pay for months of electrical provision as well as infrastructure installation. The utility initially sought $346,647.29 plus interest and court fees."
punkman: I wonder if any miners are doing this systematically
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 21:47:42; mircea_popescu: how exactly did some us black guy get his "we" to include i presume egyptians, which weren't black while he wasn't in africa, is anyone's guess.
punkman: mine as long as utility company doesn't cut power, make new account, start over
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cazalla: looking at tassie property.. come across all but abandoned laboratory in the middle of nowhere in the middle of tasmania, maybe perfect for asciilifeform types?
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00062135 = 15.0367 BTC [+]
punkman: went to the bakery, was thinking about buying a donut, then a cockroach looked at me through the donut hole
punkman: I've never seen such a thing before
shinohai: Because I'm too lazy to go out this morning, bagels and coffee at home.
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punkman: girl infected me with some kind of cold, been sweating at random intervals since last night, but no fever.
cazalla: i would think just about every bakery has some cockies punkman
punkman: cazalla: yeah but not where you can see them
assbot: SABR.io Identifies Illegal Activity on Blockchains, Willing to Work With Law Enforcement - Bitcoinist.net ... (
http://bit.ly/1HFyha3 )
cazalla: "More than 285,000 people have backed an online petition on change.org, an international website that hosts campaigns, calling on President Vladimir Putin to revoke the decision and hand the food to people in need. " this change.org shit is recurring recently, i come across it even in the local rag
shinohai: I see change.org as simply an outlet for the masses to feel as if they are inspiring social change.
shinohai: Oh well, be the change and all.
williamdunne: bank has notarized + apostilled documents certifying GPG key owned by me. bank uses GPG. bank requires documents to be signed in front of a notary and apostilled and won't accept GPG signatures. wao. fiat word sux
williamdunne: The whole apostille thing is fuckheaded as well
shinohai: Do they have someone writing out keys on bankslips?
shinohai: lets just all go back to wax seals and signet rings.
williamdunne: punkman: you can send and receive encrypted and signed emails to and from your relationship manager.
shinohai: well that's something at least.
shinohai: Oh I know. I had an array of stamps in one of my former jobs.
williamdunne: Recently I had the pleasure of having a legalized translation done
williamdunne: One for the translator, one for the notary, and one for me
williamdunne: And then the final page had to have seven (yes seven) stamps
williamdunne: Of course, this process had to be completed on each copy..
shinohai: guvment efficiency. Notarize with deedbot or something.
williamdunne: And then there is the lulz with South Africa too. "We need proof of address for the company"
williamdunne: "You need proof of address, like a utility bill or bank statement to open an account in the company name"
williamdunne: UNless I can sort out proof of address somehow, the process is:
williamdunne: Open account with another bank, that will literally send someone to the building to check it is where we say we are
williamdunne: Use a bank statement with the other bank, to open account with the bank who wants to work with us
punkman: sounds like you might be doing it wrong
shinohai: When in Rome, you gotta do as the Romans do I guess.
shinohai: Gotta give williamdunne props for navigating it all tho. You make jeffery smith look like an amateur
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assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 02:10:46; assbot: SABR.io wants to unmask Bitcoin transactions and has raised $1 million in funding. : Bitcoin ... (
http://bit.ly/1IXFOlp )
kakobrekla: Guess who else they invested in? Shapeshift.
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assbot: evoorhees comments on [bitcoin-dev] Significant losses by double-spending unconfirmed transactions ... (
http://bit.ly/1IKiPem )
williamdunne: Eh, shapeshift seems pretty well executed from a customer perspective
williamdunne: If you're gonna be into crapcoins, might as well do it on a simple platform like shapeshift
shinohai: hilarious. Whining about censorship when theymos censored nothing.
Adlai: at least it's not a brainwallet
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assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 08:59:59; cazalla: looking at tassie property.. come across all but abandoned laboratory in the middle of nowhere in the middle of tasmania, maybe perfect for asciilifeform types?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony if it's half and half 350k over 4 months means
mircea_popescu: not entirely inconceivable. and if you take the other half and pretend materials are free and you get billed for construction work at 50 an hour, that's about six weeks worth of a 12 man team's work.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> ~44% of Bitcoin mining hash power is currently voting to support 8 MB blocks. << jesus fuck look at these idiots, didn't skip a beat
mircea_popescu: "85% voted to implement a trivial change that was both needed and uncontroversial. they didn't implement it and bitcoin forked. lesson learned! 44% "vote" to implement a change that mp said he will attack. WHATCOULDGOWRONG!111"
mircea_popescu: punkman sounds like some horrible african ebola. who's she been seeing ?
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> I see change.org as simply an outlet for the masses to feel as if they are inspiring social change. << well mostly it's an obama thing. guy made his own reddit, somewhat more dysfunctional.
mircea_popescu: <williamdunne> The whole apostille thing is fuckheaded as well << yeah srsly.
mircea_popescu: <williamdunne> punkman: you can send and receive encrypted and signed emails to and from your relationship manager. << who keeps all of them plaintext in his internet-connected excel.
punkman: also, there are worse things than having to apostille a document
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I, mr government official, confirm that mrs notary, did in fact agree that the documents were correct that he brought on the day. She said so and she signed it.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne> 50 shades of derp << they have the same nonsense here. /me had cute notary clerk over for biscuits, problem solved.
williamdunne: yeah, mine came over to my house as well to deal with all the paperwork because she gave me some other pricks passport.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne people wanna matter. whenever a vote comes to whether they wanna matter more or less, they vote they wanna matter more. meanwhile they keep mattering less. what's one to do.
mircea_popescu: "The business model associated with the Sabr.io service is noble and honorable, as the company wants to eliminate any criminal activity associated with virtual currencies."
mircea_popescu: "noble and honorable" since when is this part of the discourse.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 02:12:41; asciilifeform: how long has it been since sc4mz0rz quit doing the most elementary homework to see if other, larger and better-connected sc4mz0rz are pulling the same scam already ?
williamdunne: I'd happily give them some silly putty, but I'd rather not be forced to waste my own time and resources for something that should be easy like opening a bank account. Bitcoin has spoiled me.
williamdunne: Haven't you heard? Criminal activity is immoral by default
williamdunne: If they outlaw breathing, you should not break the social contract by fighting for life
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mircea_popescu: most scamzors live their entire life replicating what actually successful people do.
punkman: "if nobody else is doing it, there's no money in this scam"
mircea_popescu: for that matter, looky here. when i was younger, we had this constant problem where kids watched who knows what on the (recently available) tv and decided they're gonna be MOBSTERERS!!11 LIEK IRL!!
mircea_popescu: then you had the practical choice of either killing a bunch of 16 yos or complete disorder
mircea_popescu: (which was generally resolved by beating the shit out of them in group - apparently teenaged boys benefit from the shared experience).
mircea_popescu: not that people weren't tempted, especially after a fucking while.
mircea_popescu: nothing better illustrates the fundamentally maggoty quality of the human race than being in the position of, approximately speaking, a highschool disciplinarian.
williamdunne: Never understood the usage of gang-beatings to show strength. I can understand it to create fear.. but strength
mircea_popescu: williamdunne what's your theory of homosexual rape in prison ? what drives it ?
williamdunne: I'd disagree that a gang-beating is particularly dominating
williamdunne: Sure, but I was always on the smaller/equal side
mircea_popescu: well so then on what grounds do you disagree of anything there lol.
williamdunne: Purely in my head, I'm not certain I'd fear any individual in a group of 8 that beat me
mircea_popescu: obviouisly an amicable bout between friends & equals is a great community building tool.
punkman: asciilifeform: there are folks who were never beaten? not even a bit ? << lots of em
williamdunne: For example, when one person tried to get a few to jump me, they were forced to keep a fairly large distance between themselves and I
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i've never been punched! black and white are the same color! a yellow apple on a yellow cab!"
mircea_popescu: ;;google "i've never been punched! black and white are the same color! a yellow apple on a yellow cab!"
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mircea_popescu: williamdunne i don't expect this is something that can be verbally communicated, and jesus fuck have i wasted some time if that's actually not so. but perhaps it'll be easier to understand when you take yourself out of there.
mircea_popescu: so in that town, there once were a bunch of girlies, which for whatever reason grew up with the impression that they're not plainly wrapped fuckmeat for some dudes.
mircea_popescu: and actualised this delusion by bitching at who knows what.
mircea_popescu: next thing you know, one's doused in gasoline begging for no lights and the other's staring at text messages in her cellphone about her sister and so forth.
mircea_popescu: so they DO change their mind, and go take their place in the line of plainly wrapped, bipedal fuckmeat.
mircea_popescu: now, sure, maybe you personally are different from a few thousand pubescent girlies.
mircea_popescu: but the one time you'll know this, apparently hasn't come yet.
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williamdunne: From what I can see they may contend that point
williamdunne: Well the only references I'm seeing to it are describing it as a traumatic experience. While traumatic can be a force for good I can't see anything suggesting it did her any particular favours
mircea_popescu: how about the references where they withdrew complaints / ran off from the da the day of testimony / etc ?
mircea_popescu: how about the references where hundreds of people were involved in raping thousands of preteens for a decade + and all the ridiculous queen's got are five convictions for less than five years a head ?
mircea_popescu: those dudes are going to be out before next year's out, they probably just wanted a break.
williamdunne: That sounds more like it went well for the one pouring the gas, than her
mircea_popescu: wen't great for her, she's rapemeat, she loves it, ask her!
mircea_popescu: so no, people aren't these magical snowflakes made out of independent thought and closely held principle. that view is chiefly an economical surplus phenomena, people tend to form that view if they live for too long unchallenged. otherwise, people are lazy and small. some smaller than lazy, some lazier than small. but by and large not worth the mention.
mircea_popescu: the pakis are there because between fifty of them they have more balls than the collected population of britons.
mircea_popescu: and no, the us didn't make shipping cheap, china did (srsly - look at what they did to that market if you wanna get scared).
mircea_popescu: and yes, china would be the main beneficiary of getting rid of all these northern barbarians.
mircea_popescu: so if you want to have a superpower, use china. the us is neither a superpower not really invovled.
mircea_popescu: actually rotherham is not that badly off. kinda why i used it to derail our amiable friend.
mircea_popescu: globalelite = patriarchy = cis scum = jew bankers = illuminati = omfg spare me.
mircea_popescu: btw, northern barbarians = the pakis. china's been pushing populations west since forever, and is continuing to do so. not intentionally, mind you.
mircea_popescu: it just is so fucking big it causes gravity waves. when it weakens, the northern barbarians move east and you have european "peace".
mircea_popescu: when it strengthens back, the barbarians run off west, and yo uhave "end of empires".
mircea_popescu: why did rome succeed "holding the barbarians at bay" for a millenium and then collapsed in two centuries ? look at what was going on in china during.
mircea_popescu: and the steel particles are gonna stick with the shit ? lol, kay.
mircea_popescu: i moreover envision a situation where whatever steel's left, if there is, bands together and the shit gets buried.
mircea_popescu: On the Russian side, it was invariably the mommy who came, and nagged her son: You shouldn't fight! Fighting is bad! On the Chechen side it was invariably the father who came. He slapped his son upside the head and told him: How dare you lose a fight to a stinking Russianthe son of an alcoholic and a prostitute? Tomorrow you thrash him so hard that he pisses himself from fear any time he sees you!
mircea_popescu: how do you call that little barrel in which you keep sour cream ? putinica in romanian.
mircea_popescu: looky, verbal-ness is drastically overrated this morning.
mircea_popescu: there's no way i can explain to williamdunne what he asks and there's nothing i have to ~say~ to chechens.
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mircea_popescu: "When I showed up, there were fifteen of them waiting for me, all grown men. I thought that they would simply kill me."
mircea_popescu: problem is, armies don't actually work for this purpose.
mircea_popescu: you wanna win one of these wars, simply ship your guys over. by fucking bus.
mircea_popescu: the mistake is that the standing guy sought to protect himself.
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2014 23:42:34; mircea_popescu: if teh muricans really just wanted "something that shoots and a bus ticker there", i'd have been really worried about the afghanistani.
mircea_popescu: so, yeah. do that, last fucking time you ever have to "fight" the "terrorists".
mircea_popescu: and they didn't hang tyhe "local police" by the lamp posts ?
mircea_popescu: you know, teaching a woman that she's supposed to neglect the functioning of her head so she can focus on... the kitchen, i guess, as the puritans can't quite make the cunt point, is criminal.
mircea_popescu: but teaching a boy that he should somehow cleave his intelligence from his activity is just as fucking criminal.
mircea_popescu: you're not smart to live a long time, you're smart to live well. length don't enter into it.
phf: that orlov quote is questionable, with the same message as his other writing, i.e. "orks are cooler then you" where you is a u.s. office worker. i grew up in intelligentsia family and when i started getting into fights i was sent to sambo. i also saw fights involving chechen boys, including "деревня на деревню" kind, and in none of those were russian boys holding back. what is this
phf: mircea_popescu: oh that's the idea about him, i guess that makes sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is that the us never having been a nation, it can't possibly fail like one.
mircea_popescu: but hey, orlov doesn't know about india. he got a hammer an' he's a builder.
mircea_popescu: "Another time, in school, a group of Chechens stormed into a classroom in the middle of a class, selected the three most attractive girls, and dragged them away with them. Later we found out that the girls were presented as birthday presents to a local Chechen criminal authority."
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mircea_popescu: i think he's mixing the pots, too. this story's from serbia.
mircea_popescu: and the "criminal authority" has a name. also ran a hotel, which also had a name. etc.
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phf: "my brother's brother heard it from the guy WHO WAS THERE" "man, i wish i could just steal girls from classrooms like a brave chechen, because i sure as hell can't talk to them"
phf: my interpretation of the piece.
mircea_popescu: i'm not an authority on subcaucasian tribal customs, but my guess would be that such deeds would be a face wound for the poor guy in question incompatible with any sort of continued authority.
mircea_popescu: at the very least he'll be henceforth known as abdulbek the schoolteacher or something.
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mircea_popescu: (the funniest thing about chechens is that they actually use the given name bula.
phf: why classroom though? how was selection process working with everyone running all over the place? did they had to dump one or two, because upon closer examination they were kind of meh?
mircea_popescu: "una si bella fanciula... nessun' ne se h'a accorso..."
phf: oh, lined them up, checked teeth and vulvas
mircea_popescu: (anyway, one girl, the only one that is overtly flirting with the men, is rejected for the obscure reason that she had a bad 1st molar. the procureress protests (in italian) that such a pretty girlie! nobody even noticed!
mircea_popescu: the real dynamic there is that the dudes are so fucking scared of actual womanhood they desperately seek, and for their sins find, an escape path.
phf: oh i thought it's a control fantasy, a bureaucrat who imagines himself a sultan will necessarily act a bureaucrat in that role
mircea_popescu: for one thing, if it were bureaucracy driven, wouldn't you expect the girl be shot ? the woman dismissed ? some sort of "repercussions" ? "consequences" and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: a record made of the incident at the very list! what sort of bureaucracy is this.
phf: well, the fantasy is a from the perspective of the bureaucrat himself, so he doesn't necessarily sees the bigger picture like a monarch would, he just does the inspection. record would be required though
mircea_popescu: i don't disagree with the point at all, i just don't think that's what happened there.
phf: right, i've not seen it in a while, so i'm definitely misremembering
mircea_popescu remembers the early hopeful days of the chechen republic whatever it was called and that mustacioed fellow whose name, inescapably, came to "joker"
phf: apparently means "doubt" in spanish, so "doubtson"
phf: duda is a form of bagpipes, though not used in russian much, there's still "dudet'", which is to make a bagpipe sound. someone could work that into him being a blowhard somehow
phf: i started reading orlov with his piece about "everyone should get russian passport and move syberia to survive orks and global warming", i thought that maybe he was one of those slightly misguided older russian expats, so i sent him an email in russian with the general idea of, what about existing power structures there, it's not like moving to alaska, there's not going to be a shortage of local generals interested in hunting out of shape expats
phf: for fun. later i did some research and realized that he's some kind of u.s. aparatchik who spent his 90s in russia
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is "Everyone" going to do in siberia, upvote the snow ?
phf: well, by then, there's not going to be snow, because moderate climate areas are going to be mad max hell holes, where's your siberian mcmansion is only going to appreciate in value
mircea_popescu: yeah, universal literacy totally was a good idea, i see it now.
mircea_popescu: "A Crypto Trick That Makes Software Nearly Impossible to Reverse"
☟︎ mircea_popescu is not particularly impressed with this recently discovered pop-crypto celeb. srsly, this is it, people stopped giving a shit about "music" so mpaa may die, but there's going to be a naa creating "crypto popstars" instead ?
mircea_popescu is further unimpressed with "Since joining the cult of LangSec, I've spent a great deal of time pondering" intros.
mircea_popescu: my chair has spent a great deal of time pondering my ass.
phf: (there's a 90s russian commedy, дмб, about a bunch of hapless army conscripts. at some point they are supposed to provide entertainment for generals, in some total buttfuck nowhere location. one of the activities is pig hunting, they release a pig, and the general goes after it. so of course the pig gets eaten by one of the hungry conscripts, and he has to pretend to be a pig running through fields. i can't help but think about orlov's boomer
phf: s setting up base somewhere in that location)
mircea_popescu: "The divergence between the theoretical Turing machines and the machines designed to emulate has grown significantly; most of the "work" modern computers (including mobile devices, etc.) perform is not computation oriented as it was with a Turing machine. Today networking, graphics/audio and interaction with the physical world (SCADA, wearables, etc.) have become the key features that the industry is working on improvi
mircea_popescu: ng, not the emulation gap between modern CPUs and a theoretical Turing machine."
mircea_popescu: current computer science favours the speed of light over other speeds "much more important to "us"". it is a serious fucking problem for usg/nsa/alphabetsoup that there still exist people who even vaguely understand what this shit even is, because even one in a million that can make actual decisions based on actual facts when that asshole asciilifeform publishes things about pgp keys or that asshole mircea_popescu thre
mircea_popescu: atens "bitcoin improvement" prgrammes is way too much.
mircea_popescu: heck, given the shape they're in, one in a billion may be excessive.
mircea_popescu: now my question to you, mats, becomes : what's this to you ? does the apparent novelty catch your eye ? or wut ?
phf: this must be a puton, his twitter says "Described by @wireheadlance as the Anthony Bourdain of InfoSec"
mats: i get the sense that he's on to something but lacks the ability to clearly describe it
mats: like he's attempting to improve upon the 'chomsky hierarchy'
mircea_popescu: and omfg the x of y enough already god damned pigdinheads
mircea_popescu: mats there's certainly a difference between brainfuck and c++ programs that's driven by difference between actual brainfuck and c++. what exactly it is, tho...
mircea_popescu: "But a boxing audience is always disgusting, and the behaviour of the women, in particular, is such that the army, I believe, does not allow them to attend its contests." lmao orlov and his middle class sentimentalities.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: see phf, men are deeply afraid of women. especially the men that never killed anyone for the simple aesthetic pleasure of taking a life.
phf: that's kind of an obvious point to a nerd boy, i thought the solution always was "stop being such a little shit", not "let's change everyone around me so i finally don't feel inadequate"
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jurov: siberia is good for hiding, i guess... not in mcmansion, tho
jurov: novosibirsk is on same latitude than denmark.. just that swings between -40 +40C in the year
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phf: the heat in novosibirsk like in all russian cities is provided through pipes in a form of a compressed steam and hot water from a ТЭЦ. (a major difference between eastern europe and the states). if ТЭЦ fails, novosibirsk turns into a ice coffin, on account of all the concrete box construction. that actually happened in the past for short periods of time (like a week or two) and it's usually a major humanitarian disaster. we don't even know
phf: precisely how many people died in remote locations like that during the 90s as a result of rapid transition from central planning economy to a "free market" by way of so called "shock doctrine". that info might never surface
☟︎ mircea_popescu: siberia is to be approached sanely, which is to say, dressed in furs you tanned yourself, with trained dogs and women that are provedly able to live like this.
ascii_field: 'Jacob Torrey – Cyber-security Philosopher and Boffin' << to the furnace
jurov: no need for furs... just get some 10mm polystyrene from china
jurov: trade for oil, praps?
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 15:36:52; mircea_popescu: "A Crypto Trick That Makes Software Nearly Impossible to Reverse"
mircea_popescu: how about you go live in china, then, if your plan is to put your life on a foundation of trade with china ?
jurov: gotta trade with somebody
ascii_field: 'learn the trick reverse engineers hate!!11'
mircea_popescu: HERE IS THE RECENT TRICK THAT B-A REALLY HATES. HOW AN UNEMPLOYED TWERP MADE IMPOSSIBLE TO SOFTWARE.
mircea_popescu: jurov if "gotta trade with somebody" is your premise, go to new york, and be a jew.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 15:46:48; mircea_popescu: "But a boxing audience is always disgusting, and the behaviour of the women, in particular, is such that the army, I believe, does not allow them to attend its contests." lmao orlov and his middle class sentimentalities.
jurov: but what i wanted to say... our block got just 70mm insulation and whole damn thing heats itself by used electricity and body heat alone, i have cold radiator at -20 outside
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 16:31:25; phf: precisely how many people died in remote locations like that during the 90s as a result of rapid transition from central planning economy to a "free market" by way of so called "shock doctrine". that info might never surface
mircea_popescu: of course... once they age they'll be the best cockroach house any cockroach could dream for.
mircea_popescu: but let's not talk of "20 years later". not on the internet, of all places.
jurov: heh yes, will be funny to see how good is the "lifetime warranty" for
jurov: but whole blocks are mostly in half of their 70y projected lifetime
mircea_popescu: better'd be to see who hanged for the fact that prefab production wasn't transitioned to "sandwiched prefab with styofoam". in like, 1992.
jurov: what? whole prefab concrete thing stopped by 1992
jurov: and yes, it took another 10y for insulation to start seriously
phf: jurov: theoretical potential is not the problem. what i'm saying is that there's existing "flora and fauna" that you're going to run into pretty fast. local деревенские "people from the village", police, military divisions that for all practical purposes own the locations principality style and don't need to "trade" in order to get guns, cars and supplies. for some reason that sort of fantasies don't usually go "let's build a dream su
phf: rvivalist spot in Tamaulipas"
jurov: ofc, not for everyone
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ascii_field: in all fairness, orlov never advocated 'let's all you plankton move to x and colonize'
mircea_popescu: the only places plankton can colonize are the uk, france, etc.
jurov: i heard some stories that brasilia is okay
mats: Torrey's research is actually interesting, if you'd take the time to read it instead of the Wired write up...
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 03:56:24; asciilifeform: i venture to say that the actual goal of general-purpose (or whatever approximation is possible) homomorphic crypto is quite different.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 04:11:28; asciilifeform: they would like to create (and then mandate) computing machinery that cannot be audited for security even in principle.
punkman: jurov: how does that insulation work out in the summer btw?
jurov: it heats up slower... but also slower to cool down
mircea_popescu: James Burnham's theory has been much discussed, but few people have yet considered its ideological implicationsthat is, the kind of world-view, the kind of beliefs, and the social structure that would probably prevail in a state which was at once UNCONQUERABLE and in a permanent state of 'cold war' with its neighbors.
mircea_popescu: i don't think orwell is properly credited with the invention of this term ?
mircea_popescu: 1. the consensus of the people ; 2. the internet ; 3. the consensus of people on the internet.
mircea_popescu: Had the atomic bomb turned out to be something as cheap and easily manufactured as a bicycle or an alarm clock, it might well have plunged us back into barbarism, but it might, on the other hand, have meant the end of national sovereignty and of the highly-centralised police state. If, as seems to be the case, it is a rare and costly object as difficult to produce as a battleship, it is likelier to put an end to large-
mircea_popescu: scale wars at the cost of prolonging indefinitely a 'peace that is no peace'.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2014 04:11:28; asciilifeform: they would like to create (and then mandate) computing machinery that cannot be audited for security even in principle.
ascii_field: 'cool' in precisely the same sense as the bomb collars
mircea_popescu: my perception of "secured computing", for what it's worth (perhaps not much) is that it's very much akin to clothing. sure, it "protects the body". yet one generally wishes for the sort of house that allows, and that's populated by the sort of women that don't particularly need that protection.
mircea_popescu: that munroe character makes the same point with schoolchildren, schoolmasters and condoms, but i have no taste for it.
mircea_popescu: so : yes, great, for outside. not the chief point of computing in any sense.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the 'homomorphic' shit is strictly for 'secure against owner'
mircea_popescu: "I think it is worth recording what some of them cost, just to show what you can do with a few shillings if you invest them in something that grows.I think it is worth recording what some of them cost, just to show what you can do with a few shillings if you invest them in something that grows. [...] Between them, in nine years, those seven rose bushes will have given what would add up to a hundred or a hundred and fif
mircea_popescu: ty months of bloom" << epic. in the same article he complains about someone complaining about roses being bourgeois.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field looky, there's some value into getting better control of the "owners" of zombie computers.
mircea_popescu is kind of sick paying "datacenters" for hosting, i'd much rather pay "criminals".
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you don't imagine the stuff won't be hacked, right ?
mircea_popescu: let the good people of jwz nation run "secure" "homowhatever" computers.
mircea_popescu: so i can run trilema off of them and there's nothing they can do about it.
ascii_field: the (largely lysenkoine and fraudulent, but bear with me) promise of 'homomorphic' is that you can, ostensibly, make a circuit where determining function is similar to breaking rsa
mircea_popescu: in your mind this means "i won't be able to tell if nsa is running X on my computer". in my mind, this means "nsa won't be able to tell if i'm running trilema off obama's computer".
ascii_field: on account of the whole thing being a 'weak keys' crock of shit
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mircea_popescu: but yes, you're broadly correct in suspecting that past this general, "managerial" intuition i lack any actual idea of how it'd work out in practice.
mircea_popescu: so it can directly be dismissed if one's inclined to dismiss on such grounds.
ascii_field: anyway this would be more interesting if 'homomorphic crypto' weren't a sc4m
ascii_field: (see also, for similar lulz, 'whitebox cryptography')
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, icesomething or the other is making a pretty penny out of obfuscating and bytecoding php
mircea_popescu: "Fourthly, the tea should be strong. For a pot holding a quart, if you are going to fill it nearly to the brim, six heaped teaspoons would be about right."
mats: pronto's a fella on freenode.
mats: (poor copy+paste on my part)
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mats: in the parlance, 'HARES' is not so much as a 'crypter' than a 'packer'.
ascii_field: mats: i read the paper. it's a crock of shit. why does this fella assume that no one can run his process under cycle-accurate emulation ?
ascii_field: plenty of talk of 'protecting the key: erase from caches' etc
mats: ask him. or i can do so on your behalf. he's on freenode
ascii_field: i'm not mpoe-pr and don't engage with sc4mz0rz recreationally
ascii_field: but i do earn a living demolishing idiocy quite like what was described, yes.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 02:18:54; asciilifeform: mats: iirc inria had a cycle-and-cache-accurate x86 emulator. might be up your alley.
ascii_field: it wasn't a paper, but a downloadable source thing
ascii_field: the gold standard for this kind of work is instrumented hardware
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 17:54:13; mircea_popescu: one of the best places for stego i can think of.
mats: ascii_field: he asserts that 'massr86' uses a VMM, which would be detected
mats: guy's not a scammer as far as i can tell, and you do a disservice to folks (and yourself) by coming to judgment so quickly
ascii_field: according to the docs, thing is built on qemu. with none of the 'accelarator' crud that used kernel mods.
ascii_field: but, again, this is a cheapo 90% solution for poor folks.
mats: wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake
ascii_field: (typically malware folks try to detect emulators by looking for well-known imperfections - if operator is an idiot, these will be found - or for external time base, which can set off a trap if machine appears to be uncommonly slow by wall clock time.)
ascii_field: the thing about the 'hares' fella is that he is a textbook case of 'but terrorists wouldn't DO that!!111'
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:27; asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
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punkman: ascii_field: but they do run windows
punkman: ascii_field, someone has to pick the low hanging fruit, no?
trinque: punkman: why pick anything but?
mats: i'm rapidly tiring of being a relay, but: he says that intel's 'trusted execution technology' wouldn't work with marss86, and you'd also have to have the key to provision marss
punkman: works on AMD as well right?
mats: so there's no attack here.
ascii_field: boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip (and yes, i will keep calling it that, because the motherfuckers don't get to pretend that fritz, palladium, etc. never happened.)
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ascii_field: generally, folks who are obsessed with 'someone may steal my magic algo!!111!!!!' ship the whole shebang on fpga with config in sram, backed with watch battery;
ascii_field: and this is often gnarly and expensive to reverse, because it's on fpga, yes, and might need 500 units to destroy
ascii_field: but the saving grace is that in 100% of such cases, the 'intellectual propertyyyyy!111!' holder is a twerp, and cheaper to give one of his employees a candy bar
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:52:21; mircea_popescu: here's the long and the short of this story : you got two whores, just like in the chemistry and agriculture story. one's whomint, the other's slutmint. you gotta fuck either one or the other. they both have very specific, life altering constraints.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 19:30:01; ascii_field: which there is no mention of in the paper.
ascii_field: i never understood how anyone could ever be so gullible as to believe that 'remote attestation chip' could be a thing
ascii_field: let's say it sits on the bus and refuses to decrypt magic blob unless it thinks hash(ram) == H
mats: he is quite clear about what it can and can't do, no dishonesty as far as i can tell
ascii_field: what's to keep me from sitting it down on one bus where ram hashes to H, then it spits key, and i sit it back down on another.
ascii_field: the best scam is the kind where the scammitude is implicit
ascii_field: and baked into an orchestra of 'no one could have foreseen's
ascii_field: incidentally, the only reason fritz chip was not pushed more aggressively is that it was really intended to prohibit linux
ascii_field: but the latter succumbed to its own weight
ascii_field: fwiw, i always thought the idea of a copyprotection dongle that tries to take over the whole machine was quite lulzy.
ascii_field: i mean, it's one thing to consider a whole computer in a safe which sets off built-in nuke if anyone so much as scratches the door
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ascii_field: it's quite another to propose that this can be a little pc peripheral turd that i can get 10,000 of and somehow still not crack
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jurov: davout, x.eur liquidity
jurov: not that i complain.. needed some fiat :D
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mircea_popescu: <mats> wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake <<< it's a very interesting point as to how do you establish this ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: not even necessary in the case at hand, but as a general rule.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
mircea_popescu: <mats> i'm rapidly tiring of being a relay << why's the guy not come over anyway ? well... i guess the answer's actually obvious huh. nm.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's still an interesting problem, even if not necessarily of practical consequence.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the interesting problem of "detecting emulator"
mircea_popescu: it can readily be shown riguroulsy that this is impossible iun the general case
ascii_field: for answers to questions that don't have rigorous answers, but must be answered.
assbot: ascii_field and sirnarwhal are not registered in WoT.
assbot: sirnarwhal is not registered in WoT.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip << the reason they don't call it that is because they are trying to avoid the literature documenting the costs of making it hard and the limitation its softness imposes.
ascii_field: see log, also, for why the approach where the whole computer is not inside the fritz is laughable on its face
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field incidentally, it's funny to consider the relations between "remote attestation" and hock or w/e the thing was called
ascii_field: (for n00bz: 'remote attestation' is this crackpot concept where usg has permanent root (yes) on 'your' computer, and uses it to verify that you aren't, e.g., running illegal linux)
mircea_popescu: not sure how to best convey this as the guy's terminology is a sort of pigdin latin numerals.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: relies on an interpreter he wrote in c
mircea_popescu: so : those could as well be the remote part of a fritz chip
mircea_popescu: in a sense they always are : they verify at the minimum that math is homogenous in the universe.
ascii_field: actually an electron in free space brings in most of known maths
mircea_popescu: "Trusted Platform Module From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Fritz-chip) Trusted Platform Module (TPM) is an international standard for a secure cryptoprocessor,"
ascii_field: evidently 'this never happened, move along'
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ascii_field: 'Before booting windows 7 or 8, the bios checks if C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe is the Lenovo one or the original Microsoft one. If it is not the lenovo one, it moves it to C:\Windows\system32\0409\zz_sec\autobin.exe, and then writes it's own autochk.exe. During boot, the Lenovo autochk.exe writes a LenovoUpdate.exe and a LenovoCheck.exe file to the system32 directory, and sets up a services to run one of them when an
ascii_field: internet connection is established. I don't know too much exactly what those do, but one appears to phone home to
http://download.lenovo.com/ideapad/wind ... 2_oko.json which is a bit worrying with the combination of a "ForceUpdate" parameter shown and the lack of ssl, making it fairly likely that it's exploitable for remote code execution by anyone who can intercept your traffic(public wifi, etc).'
ascii_field: btw this is precisely how the well-known 'computrace' works.
ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about this anywhere on the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link to the Google Cache since it's a .docx file) and in a random
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: Chinese forum (in Chinese, which I can't read, but it seemed to be about Lenovo). In the end it did the exact same thing that the autochk.exe method (under Windows 7) does (loads LenovoUpdate.exe, installs a service, etc), except you get a cryptic entry in your System Log: "A platform binary was successfully executed."'
mircea_popescu: The books that I have counted and priced are the ones I have here, in my flat. I have about an equal number stored in another place, so that I shall double the final figure in order to arrive at the complete amount. I have not counted oddments such as proof copies, defaced volumes, cheap paper-covered editions, pamphlets, or magazines, unless bound up into book form. Nor have I counted the kind of junky books-old schoo
mircea_popescu: l text-books and so forththat accumulate in the bottoms of cupboards. I have counted only those books which I have acquired voluntarily, or else would have acquired voluntarily, and which I intend to keep. In this category I find that I have 442 books, acquired in the following ways:
mircea_popescu: i owned > 10k volumes before getting rid of the lot, as a 20yo man.
ascii_field: today even a schmuck like me has tens of thou
mircea_popescu: quote : "You don't suppose we read that stuff, do you? Why, half the time you're talking about books that cost twelve and sixpence!"
mircea_popescu: twelve and sixpence is about 20 dollars in today's money.
Adlai: dunno, growing up in an apartment full of books is kinda good
Adlai: but i guess you're not growing up a kid
ascii_field: aha my father had pretty much no exposed wall at all
mircea_popescu sadly never thought to take pictures of the thing itself, all he has is various nude girlies in front of bookwalls.
ascii_field: i have more or less solid wall-to-wall now.
Adlai: but a single piano is more expensive than most book collections
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, more interested in the books than in the girls, coupla decades later.
Adlai: what's odd about that
Adlai: a good piano is worth its weight in divorce lawyers
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "biblioteca de arta" collection was easily 500 volumes. it mostly dealt with cultural anthropology, aesthetics and such. tiny fraction of a fucking library seriously
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:21:02; asciilifeform: those aren't naggum's books!
Adlai: ultimately sentiment trumps
Adlai: yeah but naggum was dead
Adlai: and couldn'tc speak for which books were his, and which weren't
ascii_field: (old thread, re: when i discovered that some derp posted a fake (!) 'naggum's books' list in place of real one)
Adlai: divorce is generally a much more lively affair, due to involvement of the living
ascii_field: the original was posted shortly after his death. i have a copy.
mircea_popescu: "Twenty-five pounds a year sounds quite a lot until you begin to measure it against other kinds of expenditure. It is nearly 9s. 9d. a week, and at present 9s. 9d. is the equivalent of about 83 cigarettes (Players): even before the war it would have bought you less than 200 cigarettes. With prices as they now are, I am spending far more on tobacco than I do on books. I smoke six ounces a week, at half-a-crown an ounce,
mircea_popescu: making nearly £40 a year. Even before the war when the same tobacco cost 8d. an ounce, I was spending over £10 a year on it"
mircea_popescu: i don't think i smoked enough to pay for a decent book in those tobacco prices.
Adlai sells all his S.MPOE
Adlai: fyi smoke is carcinogenic
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Adlai: flowers are too beautiful to burn
Adlai: and burning leaves is just... heathen
Adlai quotes the answer, for logs: "Nope. Smoking is foolish in an age when vapourising technology is so evolved and readily available."
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 21:09:46; mircea_popescu: <mats> wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake <<< it's a very interesting point as to how do you establish this ?
Adlai: "i don't think i smoked enough to pay for a decent book" << as though books are priced by content and not... who knows
mircea_popescu: "I have said enough to show that reading is one of the cheaper recreations: after listening to the radio probably THE cheapest."
mircea_popescu: no human activity ever survived and very few have recovered from the mass of people taking an interest.
mircea_popescu: and the mass of people take an interest once the poor activity becomes the cheapest in a class.
Adlai: last price i heard quoted for books was "50% of the price you bought'em, if they came from this shop"
mircea_popescu: "Meanwhile, what is the actual amount that the British public spends on books? I cannot discover any figures, though no doubt they exist. But I do know that before the war this country was publishing annually about 15,000 books, which included reprints and school books. If as many as 10,000 copies of each book were soldand even allowing for the school books, this is probably a high estimate-the average person was on
mircea_popescu: ly buying, directly or indirectly, about three books a year. These three books taken together might cost £1, or probably less."
Adlai: there is literally zero need for that
Adlai: plenty of excellent books ROT on shelves
Adlai: pay the bag^H^Hookholders a little premium
mircea_popescu: if i ever want to buy a bible, i do not wish to buy a soggy dog eared piece of composted toilet paper ensmeared with the biological refuse of five generations of idiots of the sort that'd misread a bible.
Adlai: well that's why book buying needs a wot just as much as pretty much anything else
Adlai: you think i throw my books out the window? no, they go to trusted friends
Adlai: (go, not "are lent to")
Adlai: women should be neither sold nor lent...
mircea_popescu: (and besides, you said yourself : go, not "are lent to")
Adlai: fwiw fasting is an excellent ritual
Adlai: but typically gets grossly mismanaged
mircea_popescu: "Three of these books deal with subjects of which he is so ignorant that he will have to read at least 50 pages if he is to avoid making some howler which will betray him not merely to the author (who of course knows all about the habits of book reviewers), but even to the general reader. "
mircea_popescu: i read a million words a day, and have been reading a million words a day each day for years straight.
mircea_popescu: read the piece, tell me anything but skim is contemplated.
Adlai reserves the right to have called bullshit on orwell rather than our lord mircea
mircea_popescu: then do the math on what 1-2k lines of daily log mean, in words.
mircea_popescu: the last time i encountered humans that balked for hours at reading "at least 50 pages" i was in jr high and the humans in question where the losers in the class.
Adlai: dunno man i'm still working my way through GEB
mircea_popescu: they couldn't get into the highschools, so prepuberty is the last time we met at the table.
Adlai: skimming huge chunks, sure, but there are also interesting bits
Adlai: assbot: pls to archive.is
Adlai: episode, of what kind?
ascii_field: prolly the one i'd like to take to my oubliette
Adlai: aha it has the staniseal of approval
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i think they give books more in line with "tehnologia navigatiei cu vele"
Adlai: ascii_field: iiuc sfine, as long as you "declare the pennies on your eyes"
mircea_popescu: (commie romania had weirdo "to buy x you must also buy y" quota system to prop up the central economy. that particular book was outrageous in a country nobodyu owned as much as a raft, let alone yachts. so it became symbolic)
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Adlai: lsd is kinda like bitcoin
Adlai: you don't know what'll happen, but you know it'll be interesting
mircea_popescu: "The great majority of reviews give an inadequate or misleading account of the book that is dealt with. Since the war publishers have been less able than before to twist the tails of literary editors and evoke a paean of praise for every book that they produce, but on the other hand the standard of reviewing has gone down owing to lack of space and other inconveniences. Seeing the results, people sometimes suggest that
mircea_popescu: the solution lies in getting book reviewing out of the hands of hacks. Books on specialised subjects ought to be dealt with by experts, and on the other hand a good deal of reviewing, especially of novels, might well be done by amateurs. Nearly every book is capable of arousing passionate feeling, if it is only a passionate dislike, in some or other reader, whose ideas about it would surely be worth more than those of
mircea_popescu: a bored professional. But, unfortunately, as every editor knows, that kind of thing is very difficult to organise. In practice the editor always finds himself reverting to his team of hackshis "regulars", as he calls them."
Adlai: who organized what
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mircea_popescu: "the editors" organized "on the other hand a good deal of reviewing, especially of novels, might well be done by amateurs. Nearly every book is capable of arousing passionate feeling, if it is only a passionate dislike, in some or other reader, whose ideas about it would surely be worth more than those of a bored professional"
mircea_popescu: except it turns out that passion only seemed valuable because so rarely encountered from the sort of women these people hung out with (ie, carefully not whores)
mircea_popescu: and so they imagined it's a panacea. which it definitely is not.
mircea_popescu: passion's as good as whoever puts it forth, which means that with most people it has the consistency of puss and the aroma of old faces.
Adlai: obviously someboderp with passionate dislike will write a more impassioned review than one with mildly apathatic approval
Adlai: upon this principle have been built many subbreddits
Adlai: or as they're called these days, "verses"
Adlai: or is it "subverses"
Adlai got a ping and goes to check on the kids
mircea_popescu: "It is Sunday afternoon, preferably before the war. The wife is already asleep in the armchair, and the children have been sent out for a nice long walk. You put your feet up on the sofa, settle your spectacles on your nose, and open the NEWS OF THE WORLD. Roast beef and Yorkshire, or roast pork and apple sauce, followed up by suet pudding and driven home, as it were, by a cup of mahogany-brown tea, have put you in jus
mircea_popescu: t the right mood. Your pipe is drawing sweetly, the sofa cushions are soft underneath you, the fire is well alight, the air is warm and stagnant. In these blissful circumstances, what is it that you want to read about?"
Adlai: well reading a review for lolzvalue is /= to reading a review for wotrating value
Adlai spends tons of time on leddit, because "laughter is the best medicine"
Adlai: as in, loaded it in a browser, yes
punkman: life's too short for reading what reddit derps think
Adlai is rapidly itching to get his github streak going again
punkman: mircea_popescu: why would it be
Adlai: as my unfamous friend is apt to say, "same shit -- diffrent day"
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Adlai: they've copied the mechanics, and leached the self-identified "edgiest" parts of the community
mats: fun fact: ru cosmonauts have used the time it takes spit to freeze on insulation as a way to measure temperature
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00062272 = 18.4014 BTC [+]
Adlai: well that only measures temp at the point the spit hits
Adlai: you'd have to spit all over everywhere to get useful weather data
phf: Adlai: does that secp256k1 implementation you have in your github works?
Adlai: phf: works for whats?
Adlai rewrote secp256k1.lisp, but ecdsa invovles more than a mere ec group api
phf: Adlai: i'm trying to decide if i want to get working OP_CHECKSIG first by blindly using someone else's code or ffi'ing to openssl; or write a first approximation of ECDSA myself. will probably offset me by a week
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Adlai: it really depends what your objectives are... if you're learning without immediate product deadlines, i strongly recommend rabid NIH celebrations
Adlai: but if you need to produce results: cannibalize, with extreme prejudice
phf: fair, i'm itching to validate blocks, but it'll have to wait
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phf: understood, you have a different objective though
Adlai: so just to lay this to rest: i only rewrote the EC group function. ECDSA requires hashing and proper combination of EC group functions, which has not yet been verified. tl;dr: don't use my code
mircea_popescu: phf so you're not getting eulora mushrooms because you're writing bitcoin in lisp ?
Adlai: worse yet, he's stuck in my sandtrap