⏐︎ 11027
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.08496619 = 0.7647 BTC [+] {3}
benkay: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/25/magazine/25STOCK-TRADER.html?pagewanted=all
ozbot: Jonathan Lebed: Stock Manipulator, S.E.C. Nemesis -- and 15 - New York Times
benkay: kid needs to get into btc
benkay: make a killing
benkay: "Greg and Connie were born in New Jersey, but from the moment the Internet struck, they might as well have just arrived from Taiwan. When the Internet landed on them, it redistributed the prestige and authority that goes with a general understanding of the ways of the world away from the grown-ups and to the child. The grown-ups now depended on the child to translate for them. Technology had turned them into a family of immigrants."
benkay: future of btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.0054 = 0.135 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00539998 = 0.1674 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00539998 = 0.7128 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: rg is raging at the world in -otc
nubbins`: he disappeared for a week with a bunch of loans outstanding
nubbins`: and is now scrambling to undo the damage
benkay: who is rg?
kakobrekla: oh my.
kakobrekla: he had a vps company listed on mpex benkay
benkay: ah right and sold it to someone else iirc?
kakobrekla: later to get a real job and leaving it up with namworld
kakobrekla: or something
kakobrekla: cause real jobs is the future
benkay: steve jobs is the future
BingoBoingo: Nah, Steve Jobs had Pancreatic cancer, Real Jobs is the last survivor of the Jobs family
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00085711 = 1.4571 BTC [+]
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1679958/plain/)
benkay: !b 3 ✂︎
BingoBoingo: Eventually no Jobs will be left
benkay: ah nice, assbot doesn't bash assbot quotes
benkay: er, lines
benkay: that's right we had some luls with that one time
benkay: hey nubbins` would you be a friend and pastebin some logs of the -otc drama for us?
kakobrekla: yes its a feature, not a bug .:\
kakobrekla: yes drama give. btcusd is low. drama nao!!
nubbins`: benkay, it's just noise
benkay: moar drams
nubbins`: nothing particular lel-worthy, just some guy grasping at straws
benkay: well it might be caselaw nubbins` that's the thing
benkay: in fact i'm pretty sure it's caselaw
kakobrekla: did he lose it on gox'
BingoBoingo: Wait, More Electronic Rap Ghost drama?
benkay: pretty please, nubbins`?
kakobrekla: its Rap Electronic Ghost, not Electronic Rap Ghost
nubbins`: http://pastebin.com/mBuUdzFh
ozbot: [21:05:50] <rg> but i had to pay rent today [21:06:04] <nezZario> The only - Pastebin.com
nubbins`: that's as far back as my client goes
benkay: thanks bruvva
nubbins`: apparently i'm not saving logs
benkay: me neither - gotta fixit.
nubbins`: he was lurking as Guest56803 for the past few days
nubbins`: finally decided to start talking today
kakobrekla: well what has the world come to
kakobrekla: rap electronic ghosts living of xpm atcoins
kakobrekla: altcoins
kakobrekla: o lol
kakobrekla: [21:20:29] <rg> <HappzzC__: im workin with like 2500 ms latency here
kakobrekla: [21:21:00] <HappzzC__> yeah, youre like a week late snd i depend on the miney
dub__: ;;ud paying the rent
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Paying%20the%20Rent | Paying the Rent. A sex position in which the man fits his shoulders into the back of the womans knees, lifts her off the ground so that only her shoulders are on ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Paying the Rent
kakobrekla: lol dub
dub__: rg is butthurt his jacked botnets no longer make banque
kakobrekla: pretty much
dub__: ah the log goes into that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34374 @ 0.00085789 = 29.4891 BTC [+]
benkay: eenie meenie money no mo'
nubbins`: also butthurt that i rated him -2
nubbins`: doesn't seem to want to come to terms that this is because i don't trust him
nubbins`: which, after all, is what a web of trust is
nubbins`: it's not a web of people who eventually made good in the end after being publicly embarassed
nubbins`: [21:43:53] <rg> well this is annoying
nubbins`: [21:43:57] <rg> and everyone is being mean to me
nubbins`: [21:43:58] <rg> so im leaving
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0054 = 0.243 BTC [+]
benkay: well that's bloody interesting
benkay: not really writeup worthy, except for participants
dub: what is
benkay: and to work for posterity just oodles of research into this rapeghost character
benkay: nubbins` pastebin from earlier, dub
dub: heh
dub: dude is og but scetchy as fuck
nubbins`: ^
dub: I got stories
nubbins`: me too, you've likely heard em
benkay: what are your stories, dub?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6703 @ 0.00019 = 1.2736 BTC [+]
dub: I don't hate the guy, no reason to drag old shit into the -assets blogparty
benkay: it's all going to come out eventually.
dub: and he ragequits all the time, the signal-drama ration is about normal
dub: ratio*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 185 @ 0.0054 = 0.999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00085864 = 8.0712 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.0054 = 0.3294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00085864 = 3.177 BTC [+]
benkay: no atc on coinedup
benkay: https://coinedup.com/
ozbot: Coined Up - The FREE Crypto-Only Currency Exchange
benkay: get on it, alters
Jakamoko: did you build that exchange?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-]
benkay: more on the US polizei's role as underclass regulators: http://www.nickfarr.org/2014/02/what-i-learned-from-an-unfortunate-incident-with-the-nypd/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10145 @ 0.00085882 = 8.7127 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Maybe you are right http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-navy-seals-found-dead-captain-philips-ship-20140219,0,4241146.story?utm_campaign=linkbox_override&utm_source=wwwlatimes&utm_content=section#axzz2urlu269Y
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04399749 = 0.176 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re auroracoin wtf http://www.mbl.is/vidskipti/frettir/2013/12/19/hoftin_stodva_vidskipti_med_bitcoin/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00517503 = 2.5875 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
herbijudlestoids: hullo
herbijudlestoids: just checking in
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.044599 = 0.1784 BTC [+]
B007: hi
benkay: oh hey herbijudlestoids good to know you're still alive
kakobrekla: i thought he wasnt coming back
B007: no it is his programmed bot on his vps
B007: he is dead since yesterday
benkay: hey guys
benkay: what goes on the ideal crypto-savvy human's personal-security checklist?
MisterE: John Kerry: "You just don't in the 21st Century behave...by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26405635
MisterE: he smokes a lot of cock
B007: o rly? I heard he likes to eat it raw
dub: benkay: like physical skurity? or general bcp
dub: standard cryptotarian carry, ar15 concealed in banjo case
B007: ak-47 + extended mag ftw
BingoBoingo: benkay: Tack hammer on one's belt
chetty: horn-rim glasses and a pocket protector
BingoBoingo: Nah, one doesn't want to appear to be a dorky BTC Jesus. One wants to look like a simple blue collar actual jesus.
benkay: or suits as the case may be.
benkay: probably relatively high-profile from target perspective.
benkay: "oh, dude has btc. let's breach his personal security and get 'em."
benkay: but also it has to be a sustainable, fault-tolerant thing that a person can practice their whole lives.
kakobrekla: basically you need some nut a wrench cant unscrew
benkay: "personal crypto security: basically impossibly hard"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
benkay: i'm thinking best practices for personal backup and recovery strategy for keys and private contracts and such.
dub: BingoBoingo has it really, don't get caught
dub: no amount of kit will protect you from a determined attacker
asciilifeform: benkay: "personal crypto security: basically impossibly hard" << every time this is said, nsa cafeteria fillets and serves a white tiger kitten (or insert rarer and cuter animal)
benkay: sure sure
B007: benkay: all your bitcoins are belong to me
benkay: no i know asciilifeform, it's in quotes for a reason
benkay: okay i have this gpg key
B007: just store your keys encrypted and offline, hope for the best?
benkay: how do i best ensure i have access to it forever?
dub: benkay: one thing I do is delete or hide any wallets im carrying across borders
benkay: encrypted image with all important keys and files?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.0008829 = 0.1324 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: carry some microfiche that looks like a one time pad and you actual keys more discretely, misdirect the attention
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00088299 = 0.2649 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: faugh
BingoBoingo: perhaps find a "collectible" surplus or replica for the purpose
chetty: fillup a lot of storage with random stuff, encrypted with different keys, lose it in the mess
benkay: obfuscation
benkay: i'm afraid of becoming an old man and actually losing it in the mess, though.
asciilifeform: none of you seem to be thinking about the obvious
asciilifeform: situation where enemy (willing to torture and kill) knows that you're loaded
asciilifeform: and doesn't know (or care) where you keep the stash
asciilifeform: but has your arse
asciilifeform: and a soldering iron.
chetty: cyanide
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought that is what this line of thought was about.
benkay: more along the lines of list of things to do that will reduce attack surface area
benkay: maximize key durability
benkay: and access
asciilifeform: next lower class of attack: enemy willing to steal every single one of your identifiable possessions
benkay: right. they got the backups.
benkay: so the only thing to do is an encrypted drive with a memorized dicelist.
asciilifeform: the only real defence is: obscurity
chetty: #1 - don't be a target, #2 - don't be an easy target
benkay: #3 make it hard to parse the possibility space, #4 have rock solid encryption as a last barrier?
benkay: am i retarded or is this problem hard?
benkay: is there a checklist for the professional keyholder i've failed to find?
asciilifeform: wtf is a professional keyholder
benkay: i have a wot key
benkay: it is the sum of my identity 25 years from now
benkay: my whole business is tied up in this thing
benkay: i lose it, i lose everything
benkay: i'm interested in best practices for this sort of scenario.
asciilifeform: encrypt, using a process known only to you, and inject in the blockchain.
asciilifeform: (if you are not willing to pay what this costs, the payload cannot be important)
benkay: yeah, i'll buy that.
chetty: in the end a key based id is no different than the various numbers and stuff we use now, how do you protect those?
asciilifeform: 'pay' in the sense that stuffing bits in the blockchain costs.
benkay: what is the going rate per kb?
asciilifeform: benkay: depends on the actual mechanism used.
asciilifeform: under no circumstances should you tell us - or anyone else - which.
benkay: ah, right.
asciilifeform: programmatically pissing out transactions is trivial, use your imagination.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00085899 = 5.2398 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: thank you, asciilifeform.
asciilifeform: benkay: remember that steganography, unlike cryptography, cannot be simultaneously strong and standardized. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ('standardized stego' is the key hidden under door mat.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3678 @ 0.00055795 = 2.0521 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00085948 = 5.6726 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: mhm.
MisterE: Crimerians are happy the Russians are there
benkay: stuff like this as well: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2005-December/027626.html
benkay: thumbs up or down on revocation certs safely stored offline?
benkay: i guess just another aspect of the problem we all face that we never talk about in public because just talking about it exposes your practices
benkay: sheeeeit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.0053666 = 0.1073 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00085607 = 34.3712 BTC [-] {4}
Jakamoko: looks like mtgox got hacked again
Jakamoko: http://pastebin.com/W8B3CGiN
ozbot: [PHP] <?php namespace Money; class Bitcoin { #const BITCOIN_NODE = '173.224.12 - Pastebin.co
ThickAsThieves: sry of alrdy linked: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/78404559815/tbi-exclusive-more-resignations-coming-at-the-bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: Matonis and Vess resigning
ThickAsThieves: also, supposed gox leak http://pastebin.com/W8B3CGiN
ThickAsThieves: "nanashi____ who posted the leaked recording between Mark Karpeles and the Japanese bank also says there is a 20GB MySQL database. An unknown group is trying to decode it and retrieve non-personal information at the moment, and may release a torrent later."
ThickAsThieves: IRC log: http://pastebin.com/N7B5DC4d
ThickAsThieves: audio http://picosong.com/Y7di/
ThickAsThieves: supposedly boring conversation in japanese about laws
Jakamoko: supposedly they got access to the user's aml documentation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.0053666 = 0.3005 BTC [-]
benkay: kewl
chetty: Tim Cook has shocked some in the US with an impassioned attack on the single-minded pursuit of profit – and a direct appeal to climate-change deniers not to buy shares in his firm.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ouch
benkay: ;;gpg eauth freenode:#bitcoin-otc:dcc0be6c1a24011e376ab8d29c7bbd11ab3a913e394fd3f41913c798
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
benkay: buwaaat
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:dcc0be6c1a24011e376ab8d29c7bbd11ab3a913e394fd3f41913c798
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
KRS-One: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4rd4aKvSt1qkv4ajo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: in new news : bitcoin scamdation running out of the us
KRS-One: BREAKING NEWS: USD transaction maleability issue. News at 11.
mircea_popescu: maybe this way they'll escape prosecution and everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005602 = 0.112 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you'd think bfl's vleisides is advising them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.0054 = 0.135 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: damn, i've been off for a while and it seems the gox drama is keeping on
mircea_popescu: o yeah, this is good drama, gotta keep it for at least a month.
Apocalyptic: the AML data leak kinda bothers me
mircea_popescu: because why ?
mircea_popescu: it's great, it will encourage anyone who isn't an imbecile to not send his data to aml bs.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is here to kill aml anyway. why prolong its agony.
Apocalyptic: yeah I can agree on that
joecool: oh god i was missing this kind of scamming
joecool: so good
mircea_popescu: anyway. for the record : people quitting Bitcoin Foundation now are going to be getting exactly zero credit for it.
mircea_popescu: they should have quit when i said it's a scam, not wait till after i killed their piggybank.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00540363 = 0.924 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.0051002 = 0.2805 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00506247 = 0.1468 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: benkay well yes, the icelanders are under insane capital controls. what's the surprise here ?
bitcoinpete: hi
benkay: and yet the aurora coin people are nominally going to give coins to icelandic folk?
benkay: the surprise is that people buy this particular scam.
mircea_popescu: people will buy anything.
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with welfare : this sort of idiot should be on a starvation diet
mircea_popescu: that way you ensure any resources they have are judiciously expended.
mircea_popescu: if they have as much as one cent extra over what the bare minimum their sustenance requires,
mircea_popescu: they'll spend it to buy britney spears records and aurora coins
mircea_popescu: this is a serious problem, because one cent from one billion scum results in enough piled up money for shit like spears and aurora coin to pretenbd like they matter.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5831 @ 0.00085548 = 4.9883 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.57 = 1.71 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.new#new
ozbot: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
benkay: belabour
benkay: neat coinage
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00572531 = 0.2863 BTC [+] {5}
vexuall: Can I get a link to pankkakes mpex charting?
azi`: gah I hope the guys at gox didn't store the passwords in playintex
azi`: plaintext*
vexuall: Mark, ll keep running it from fraudblock on analdroid like nothings wrong
azi`: have u guys seen that someone stole personal data from gox just recently?
benkay: azi` you could check the logs
benkay: they're linked in the message of the day.
benkay: sorry nobody's around to tell you your news is stale on cue
vexuall: Ben10 can you point me to pankakke, s sexiness?
benkay: i think ihop's over thattaway baby doll
vexuall: Ugg
benkay: yo be a luv and hit us with some baile funk
vexuall: Jailhouse rock. Elvis
benkay: sounds like stupid old person music
benkay: hey and what happened to your nick
benkay: ;;gettrust Vexual
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Vexual: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Vexual | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vexual | Rated since: never
benkay: you know vex you can get in the wot with just a btc wallet
vexuall: I dont have a notebook right now
vexuall: ;; gettrust Benkay
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user vexuall to user Benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=vexuall&dest=Benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
benkay: yeah well how the fuck am i supposed to rate you if you're not even in the wot?!
vexuall: Who gives a fuck what I think?
benkay: you play sweet tunes
benkay: give it three years you might talk mp into flying you out to dj the next secret bitcoinspiracy con
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, "The only reason TradeFortress wasn't similarly has to do with cash" // I believe the foundation vouched for him in the sense they published some logo or whatever advertising for inputs.io
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08491521 = 0.1698 BTC [+]
vexuall: Tunnel time
vexuall: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m38ywxlyOX1qa9gago1_500.jpg
Apocalyptic: amazingly it's still there : https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
vexuall: Apo: proof of hack was invented long ago
vexuall: 2 year gox exploit? Bullshit
vexuall: Good luck buying a corner to piss in dux
dexX7_: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zaqvy/bitstamp_email_list_used_to_spread_mtgox_malware/
ozbot: Bitstamp email list used to spread Mt.Gox malware : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8950 @ 0.0002 = 1.79 BTC [+]
vexuall: Such negligence
vexuall: Wow
dexX7_: this is probably teh end of bitcoin :(
vexuall: Such that an irc handle wont save you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1900 @ 0.00020721 = 0.3937 BTC [+] {2}
vexuall: ;)
vexuall: Some dude said how the internet routs around fucktardery wnd cesorship
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3545 @ 0.00020999 = 0.7444 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.08495399 = 0.7646 BTC [+] {3}
HeySteve: vexuall, yeah but he said it about usenet
vexuall: Still a thing :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08497585 = 0.3399 BTC [+] {4}
HeySteve: Chinese might not agree
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59988999 = 1.1998 BTC [+]
vexuall: Do they have newsgroups?
vexuall: Alt.binaries.blockchain
vexuall: Not to be confused with atc. Altcoin
vexuall: ;; ug altcoin
gribble: Error: "ug" is not a valid command.
vexuall: Gimme love assbot
vexuall: .d
ozbot: 3.816 billion | Next Diff in 1582 blocks | Estimated Change: 3.8253% in 10d 13h 23m 22s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
vexuall: Ugg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.08000553 = 3.0402 BTC [-] {5}
vexuall: Binaries.blockchain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02134426 = 0.1067 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
vexuall: +o
vexuall: Fuck you assbot
wao-ender: v00h, this is hell wimmie crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFdHe-_82Xc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0802 = 0.401 BTC [+] {3}
chetty: <dexX7_> this is probably teh end of bitcoin :( <<<<< what again???
dexX7_: hehe
dexX7_: it's different this time!
dexX7_: < kidding ;)
vexuall: Ugg I need a blog
vexuall: Warm yor cake hole corn hole sppooon fed fuckstick face by the fire
vexuall: Laughing time is over
wao-ender: any reccomendation on some bitcoin related-art?
cazalla: people buy bitcoin related art?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08000001 = 0.32 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08000001 = 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00085672 = 8.5244 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0760015 = 0.228 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07600002 = 0.532 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3832 @ 0.00021 = 0.8047 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00085679 = 14.5226 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.005377 = 0.4839 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: yes the post is errored in that TF was a Silver Member of the BTCFundnation
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00536625 = 0.2147 BTC [-] {5}
wao-ender: TF?
ThickAsThieves: TradeFortress
ThickAsThieves: Inputs.io specifically
wao-ender: ah inputs..
ThickAsThieves: you can still see the Silver Member logo on his site today if you click thru www.inputs.io
nubbins`: wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.005366 = 0.1502 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00516003 = 0.1135 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.044499 = 0.267 BTC [+]
HeySteve: we have the story of Karpele's fraud in France before he fled to Japan and started Gox - http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/03/03/exclusive-tibanne-co-ltd-sentenced-2013-mark-karpeless-lies-new/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.0446 = 2.23 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <nubbins`> wow, so bitstamp lost their email list? lel /// I'm skeptical
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0447 = 0.4917 BTC [+]
nubbins`: "some random guy" isn't exactly a reliable source for news, hey
nubbins`: HeySteve, your site's layout is broken
ThickAsThieves: Doge Tips? ...
ThickAsThieves: way to lead an article...
ThickAsThieves: "As a result of one’s legitimate desire not to pay for a job failing to comply with the original agreement"
ThickAsThieves: that's leading
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4021 @ 0.00021049 = 0.8464 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.0002105 = 0.1684 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished?
ThickAsThieves: so far this tells the story of every single web dev project ever
ThickAsThieves: "Mark Karpeles blatantly lied so as to hide an inexcusable fact: no development work had been done. "
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00085665 = 1.8846 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: evidence?
ThickAsThieves: "Mr. Karpeles’s lies now knew no limit." sic?
ThickAsThieves: sorry
ThickAsThieves: ignore that i read it wrong :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00515102 = 0.3297 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07999283 = 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07999323 = 0.7999 BTC [+] {2}
HeySteve: nubbins, what's up with the layout?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.13311598 = 0.9318 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "It's not a currency," he said. "I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't around in the next 10-20 years." "It's being priced off the dollar," Buffett added. "It is not a durable means of exchange."
taub_: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00085679 = 0.6854 BTC [+]
chetty: <ThickAsThieves> who takes delivery of a web dev project and THEN tests it? what web dev refunds money just cuz job isnt finished? <<< The US Gov?
nubbins`: big ol' whitespace breaks going down the page
nubbins`: oh, actually, it's fine now. must've not loaded properly before.
nubbins`: chetty XD
ThickAsThieves: chetty 1, TAT 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28173 @ 0.0008568 = 24.1386 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [-]
Neil: I pointed out the >>= bug about 1 year ago. I got laughed at on the forums.
Neil: It's undefined behaviour to shift by an amount greater than or equal to the bitwidth of the type in C and C++. No such care was taken in the bitcoind codebase.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.080125 = 1.282 BTC [+] {3}
Neil: The laughing was something like "Yeah we'll all care about that in 2200" which is fair enough; no way will the bug last that long. And you won't care before then.
nubbins`: heh.
Neil: But a bug it is; the code wouldn't pass muster in GCC which I used to maintain.
Neil: The problem is most coders don't know the language they're writing, nor do they care. Hence the crap we deal with. We need more Dan Bernsteins and Matt Dillons.
Neil: (though DJBs language conformance was pretty shit too)
Neil: Lemme find the link
Neil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118796.msg1294137#msg1294137
ozbot: So, what happens when bitcoins stop being produced?
Neil: Yeah so I'm zebedee on the fora
ThickAsThieves: "I can't think of any computer program that was running 130 years ago that is still running today." ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.091 = 0.182 BTC [+]
nubbins`: half that sentence isn't necessary
Neil: ThickAsThieves: The problem is, these are always signs that the dude that wrote it doesn't really know what they're doing. Hence why we're all running code with remote exploits.
nubbins`: actually, you could remove everything past the first three words
Neil: NSA doesn't have to try too hard.
Neil: When I release my bitcoin implementation, it may suck in many ways, but it won't have things like that in it.
nubbins`: twist: nsa foresaw digital currency and created bitcoin codebase so that a flawed implementation would ruin people on the idea
Neil: I guess I can celebrate understanding sthg mircea doesn't / didn't 24 hrs ago. There is no problem with the compilers; whatever they do is good; it's all in the language spec and doing something with no defined semantics.
ThickAsThieves: indeed, it also reminds me of the quantum mining guys somehow arguing that soliciting investors to create it would make them rich in bitcoins, while out the other side of their mouth saying that quantum invulnerable wallets can be made afterward
ThickAsThieves: also they'd open source the miners after they mined "enough"
ThickAsThieves: the whole thing was surreal
ThickAsThieves: what's worse is they weren't even scamming
ThickAsThieves: they believed it al
ThickAsThieves: l
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.00085612 = 38.611 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: this is of course why ethereum can't be taken seriously, etc
Neil: Huh? They were claiming they'd be rich exploiting something whose value would go to zero being exploited? They'd have to be quick and smart in how they did said "exploiting".
ThickAsThieves: they said so on a stage as well!
ThickAsThieves: there's no smart quickness about it
ThickAsThieves: the value would be zero
ThickAsThieves: they were deadly focused on the sexiness of achieving psuedo-quantum mining and being geekchic
KRS-One: quantum computing is teh sexy
KRS-One: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/4c040e08118610beb5c147f2f8af9cfc/tumblr_mt4lryKehL1s3pvr1o1_1280.jpg
ThickAsThieves: (This was Vitalik Buterin and Jordan Ash, for the record)
ThickAsThieves: http://noospheer.wordpress.com/
ozbot: noospheer | The Quantum Graph
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zf3di/bitstamp_and_kraken_can_you_respond_to_these/
ozbot: Bitstamp and Kraken, can you respond to these allegations by your competitor that you aren't complyi
ThickAsThieves: has Bitstamp responded?
jurov: seems not
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.021399 = 0.428 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i wonder how blurry the line is for getting banned from commenting at theverge
jurov: am i blind or did it just vanished from /r/Bitcoin/ ?
jurov: with >600 upvoes, it should be right there
jurov: anyone can check?
ThickAsThieves: [removed]
jurov: iiiinteresting
jurov: <davout> they told me i'm slanderous soul
jurov: inb4 ^
ThickAsThieves: does davout haz twitter?
davout: @Bitcoin_Central
davout: @davoutplantaire
ThickAsThieves: thx
davout: I used the former before, now I tweet under the latter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000884 = 0.2652 BTC [+]
davout: jurov: o, you linked to me buttraping jesse powell :D
ThickAsThieves: davout makes mean posts on forums, therefore he is a liar and only trying to promote his business. Of course!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.0008848 = 0.2212 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.00088497 = 0.1504 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: people now trust the con- more than the -vincing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0914 = 0.457 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i wondered what happened to The Genesis Block blog. It looks like they gave up writing and moved on to data
ThickAsThieves: good choice, i suppose
ThickAsThieves: http://thegenesisblock.com/
ozbot: The Genesis Block
ThickAsThieves: Bitstamp Websocket API now available: https://www.bitstamp.net/websocket/
nubbins`: http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm
nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: http://thegenesisblock.com/research/
ThickAsThieves: ah they just tucked it under a misleading name
ThickAsThieves: they used to post more though
Neil: KRS-One: good bait; I have a soft spot for the Asian ladies
nubbins`: yeah, "research" is a misnomer
Neil: Hmm discus fish goes from 56K blocks to 594K blocks.
Neil: Or is blockchain.info full of it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00512 = 0.1638 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00511 = 1.533 BTC [-]
mike_c: ok.. i give up. mpex turns off 70% of its revenue, the share price goes down basically 0%.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 475 @ 0.00088668 = 0.4212 BTC [+] {3}
jurov: give up what?
mike_c: give up trying to understand.
jurov: welcome in the club
jurov: http://giant.gfycat.com/WholeCloudyConure.gif
mike_c: ^ lol. love it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5800001 = 1.16 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00510601 = 0.3115 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 228 @ 0.00088788 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 862 @ 0.00021245 = 0.1831 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.000888 = 0.2664 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 443 @ 0.00511 = 2.2637 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00510956 = 0.4599 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIJ_jpmwzo Ver says sorry for shilling
ozbot: Roger Ver on MTGOX Bankruptcy and Bitcoin - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: bets on how long before he apologizes for this one?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00085612 = 15.3245 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: lol he namedrops ethereum...
davout: roger veere
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.00088891 = 0.2222 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.00523699 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.021399 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07800208 = 0.156 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0447 = 0.1788 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 617.07, vol: 34737.99747344 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 600.02, vol: 19273.94613 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 618.0, vol: 24450.39495296 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 617.62, vol: 141.42750145 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 600.553359, vol: 9473.99400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 618.59, vol: 34.37330871 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 618.4077, vol: 193.3986179 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Looks like the drama rally might be heating up
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0436004 = 0.218 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.091001 = 0.455 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07794499 = 3.1178 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0432505 = 0.173 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.091001 = 0.364 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.13311598 = 0.5325 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 85 @ 0.07307177 = 6.2111 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.58 = 1.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00522999 = 0.2667 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0429 = 0.3861 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0890006 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.089 = 0.178 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0914999 = 0.183 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00088985 = 0.8899 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1118 @ 0.00021 = 0.2348 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.00538988 = 0.4743 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07300335 = 0.219 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07186666 = 1.078 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 4180 @ 0.0055 = 22.99 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.58 = 9.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2504 @ 0.0002002 = 0.5013 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1268 @ 0.0001938 = 0.2457 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.072 = 0.936 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5700002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00085577 = 35.2577 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.36577410 BTC to 3`590 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
benkay: it's a mystery to me as well, mike_c
benkay: ready to play a game of catch-the-knife?
mike_c: except the knife isn't falling!
ThickAsThieves: while i'm not converted, mp did take the time to explain this already
mike_c: you mean http://trilema.com/2014/no-its-not-the-revenue/ ?
Duffer1: good morning
the20year2: Nice big trade today, joy
the20year2: Does mircea_popescu have a contingency plan if Russia rolls through Romania too?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.13311598 = 0.7987 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i dont recall which or how many articles covered the topic, but i recall them mostly boiling down to mpoe being the only sure thing in bitcoin to invest in.
ThickAsThieves: if anything can remain irrational longer than the marker, it's surely a creation of mircea_popescu ;)
ThickAsThieves: market*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00085488 = 12.2675 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16185 @ 0.00085757 = 13.8798 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.090998 = 0.182 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:d380847cecd5806627a3b3890957c8abf829b0f91c3111495607da04
gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
lalusch: casinobitco.in report online!
Duffer1: ?
benkay: lalusch: well give us a link why dontcha
lalusch: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2SWZWkGJ1V3UEo0Q0lESk5nd0k&usp=sharing
ozbot: CasinoBitco.in - Public
lalusch: here you go
Namworld: These revenues suck
lalusch: yes
ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zadbh/stratfor_examining_the_future_of_bitcoin/
ozbot: [Stratfor] Examining the future of Bitcoin : Bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00512442 = 2.0498 BTC [-] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10412 @ 0.00085519 = 8.9042 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59990999 = 2.3996 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0052001 = 0.286 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: any luck with that key?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00520011 = 0.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0052001 = 0.234 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00510012 = 0.1734 BTC [-] {2}
wao-ender: vov 710
ThickAsThieves: http://psychologicalinvestor.com/lib/real-markets/selling-bitcoin-froth-204/
ozbot: Selling the Froth: A Simple Hedged Forex Strategy for Bitcoin-Denominated Returns
ThickAsThieves: by Dr Greg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00510014 = 0.1326 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00510327 = 0.74 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00508463 = 0.3305 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00505001 = 0.3131 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 669.34, Best ask: 669.72, Bid-ask spread: 0.38000, Last trade: 669.34, 24 hour volume: 51163.03455737, 24 hour low: 553.0, 24 hour high: 710.0, 24 hour vwap: 612.981668613
benkay: "The fact that this type of strategy is ever viable at all seems to me to suggest at least one of two possible explanations: either the futures market is relatively inefficient and dominated by unhedged directional bets taken by gamblers and speculators, or the aggregate view of the Bitcoin capital markets is that the counterparty risk created by exchanges like ICBIT is too high to support strategies that require maintaining a position
benkay: thru to settlement in order to ensure profitability."
ThickAsThieves: nice
benkay: no fucking joke
benkay: little bit of column a, little bit of column b
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: It's the drama bump
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/03/amazon-macbook-fraud.htm
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 23 @ 0.00504804 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00502 = 1.1395 BTC [-] {5}
BingoBoingo: https://encyclopediadramatica.es/P-p-p-powerbook
ozbot: P-p-p-powerbook - Encyclopedia Dramatica
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this one is considerably funnier
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00055001 = 0.165 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.00055 = 0.33 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed, but it must be established that Apple Products are a serious hotbed of fraud
asciilifeform: the practical 'joke' in the piece isn't apple-specific
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00556126 = 0.456 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 29 @ 0.021399 = 0.6206 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.0056699 = 0.6237 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.04259525 = 0.8093 BTC [-] {8}
BingoBoingo: No, but the high sticker prices seems to encourage bad behavior
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is another one of those instances where the 'avoid ritually unclean things' formula is inadequate.
BingoBoingo: Definitely. The ritual cleasing is roughly as effictive as one of those "dream catchers" with an overly coarse net on a round wooden frame
asciilifeform: the only apple-specific detail in the plot is perhaps the difficulty of removing hdd in newer apple boxes for sanitation
asciilifeform: but this is 'coming soon to a cheap x86 box near you' at any rate
asciilifeform: soldered-down ssd is SOP on virtually all ARM boxes
asciilifeform: and those are quickly overtaking the winblows pc portable
asciilifeform: 'The Market Has Spoken' (TM) that disk doesn't need to be removable.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 180 @ 0.00567497 = 1.0215 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: or accessible independent of the machine it was bought in.
BingoBoingo: For sure. Then there's the problem where business and education market products which seem to have longer time until then now usually come with firmware rooted by default.
asciilifeform: thinking that problem with modern hardware is limited to 'rooting' is a failure of imagination.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00500015 = 0.18 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: enemy does not need to remotely control the box if he can encourage you to voluntarily practice bad comsec.
asciilifeform: and opsec
asciilifeform: e.g. mailing a personal box with live (!) environment to somebody.
asciilifeform: incidentally, hardware vendors are 100% solid wall behind this crap
asciilifeform: they stand to win big from the fact of bureaucrats (government and corporate both) mandating destruction of a whole machine upon write-off
asciilifeform: rather than merely the disk, with the remainder hitting the surplus market
asciilifeform: there is probably already a custom hydraulic press on the market for puncturing 'ipads' and the like
FabianB: ;;ticker --market all
asciilifeform: with different punch settings for different brands
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 682.0, vol: 52866.12433201 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 658.0, vol: 31370.83532 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 679.99, vol: 40243.08080348 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 629.3236, vol: 14258.70400000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 663.98554, vol: 56.78902517 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 652.6025, vol: 346.6546334 | Volume-weighted last average: 670.529002883
BingoBoingo: I kind of imagined an Ipad destruction machine would "fold" the thing over a few times before puncturing.
asciilifeform: i have a dell laptop circa 2007 lying around in some box. it has a 'hammer here' target embossed on the bottom.
asciilifeform: (near the hdd cavity)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00500008 = 2.5 BTC [-] {8}
asciilifeform: military bureaucrats traditionally keep this simple.
the20year2: could always just blow it up
asciilifeform: this was a machine with a deliberately non-standard (40mm?) mechanical drive
BingoBoingo: Well, a hammer is usually the right tool for this kind of job
asciilifeform: the point is, none of this is pushed by people concerned with actual security or whatnot
asciilifeform: it's 100% revenue maximization
BingoBoingo: OMG look what the Ripple shill and spyware guy said https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5485066#msg5485066
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.005 = 0.46 BTC [-]
benkay: BingoBoingo: impossibru
BingoBoingo: Ya Rly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.005 = 1.5 BTC [-]
benkay: fuck you BingoBoingo i want my five minutes back
BingoBoingo: benkay: You are welcome
benkay: someone is sporting a foundation lifetime member badge in that thread
benkay: fml
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 989 @ 0.00490001 = 4.8461 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00499999 = 0.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.18344475 BTC to 13`595 shares, 8705 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05900001 = 0.236 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: know what's sad? with all of the bitcoin phoundation's public goatfucking, the most commonly used client remains: the one put out by them, or whatever well-connected scammer picks up the torch.
asciilifeform: at the moment, the idiots daren't take advantage of this fact
asciilifeform: but at some point, they will
asciilifeform: perhaps when qualified 'help' materializes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00085951 = 3.0942 BTC [+]
mod6: lol, goat-rapers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1425 @ 0.000199 = 0.2836 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.059 = 0.177 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 976 @ 0.0001901 = 0.1855 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21188 @ 0.00085954 = 18.2119 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2033 @ 0.00019 = 0.3863 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 777 @ 0.00019 = 0.1476 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 679 @ 0.00018909 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5895 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well, i can still negrate, despite the ban. at least something.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5895 = 1.7685 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: I dunno if people really read the forum for things other than the neg ratings anyways
ThickAsThieves: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-03/former-central-banker-admits-they-are-making-it-they-go-along
ozbot: Former Central Banker Admits "[They] Are Making It Up As They Go Along" | Zero Hedge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00085883 = 10.1342 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 833 @ 0.00018283 = 0.1523 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 577 @ 0.00518739 = 2.9931 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07299998 = 0.146 BTC [-]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j9cVWVcLU2w#t=351
BingoBoingo: Why can't these news agencies specify timezones http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-march-3-live-updates-338232.html
copumpkin: kyiv post
copumpkin: I think we can tell what timezone they're talking about
copumpkin: but yeah, I agree in general :P
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: since you seem to take an interest in the subject: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/reichstag-fire-in-kiev.html
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well my interest is largely due to http://bitbet.us/bet/769/crimea-2-electric-boogaloo/ which I hope to profit from on the "Yes" side by the arrival of Sradinian troops
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: betting on a proper, long-awaited nato vs. russian shooting war is great fun, but ww3 makes it a little hard to collect.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: At the moment Bitbet seems the only real platform for hedging that risk which might deliver.
kakobrekla: but bitbet is scam http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/#c2535
kakobrekla: just ask reddit!
ThickAsThieves: interesting
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: They forget that Bitbet and not Reddit is the court though.
ThickAsThieves: so aurawracoin is already trading? before it's been distributed to every Icelandian?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: which glorius exchange?
kakobrekla: just you wait and see how fast people stop using this shit court.
BingoBoingo: I wonder how much it costs people to retain this dude's services a'la med 20th century Boxing http://mlb.mlb.com/cutfour/index.jsp#contentId=68612078
ThickAsThieves: .088btc for one AUR?!
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Just like 0.032 BTC for a Novacoin!!!
ThickAsThieves: i wish the bet was worded better though
BingoBoingo: I February 2013
ThickAsThieves: like must have 250BTC trades in a 30-day period
ThickAsThieves: or whatever
ThickAsThieves: it says "ends up"
ThickAsThieves: wtf is that?
ThickAsThieves: does it mean on that date of closure?
ThickAsThieves: i guess thatd be the best way
kakobrekla: it would imply so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0843275 = 0.7589 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: this twitter thing in no fun if no one responds
ThickAsThieves: is
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Who are you trying to engage?
ThickAsThieves: scammers and shills
ThickAsThieves: they so trollsilient
ThickAsThieves: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets
ozbot: Bitcoin Error Log (Bitcoin_Assets) on Twitter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Don't worry, they respond eventually.
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: You may also need to pick some better targets
ThickAsThieves: suggestions?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Well you have to scope the people out a bit first and remember people like @maxkeister take the same approach to criticism Pirateat40 did, they ignore it.
ThickAsThieves: meh too much work
deadweasel: ^
BingoBoingo: Like anything else the additional work is really very little when you know what to look for.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5606 @ 0.00085998 = 4.821 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i take this very seriously
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: A nice first step is checking your feed for Maybe controversial tweets from people you follow. If there are a lot of responses call out some of the idiots.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0424 = 0.1696 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: that worked before i think
ThickAsThieves: it's ok
ThickAsThieves: i dont need acknowledgement from the targets though
ThickAsThieves: i know they read it
ThickAsThieves: and their heart hurts a little
mod6: troll those feeds!
Duffer1: pretty much anyone related to the bitcoin foundation or max keiser should provide you with ample work TaT
deadweasel: what's the goal here, anyway?
ThickAsThieves: no goal
ThickAsThieves: just my first time twittering in any notable quantity
ThickAsThieves: i'll probably bore of it in a couple weeks
ThickAsThieves: i mean, to fix the world. that's my goal
ThickAsThieves: by fix, i mean, make it what i think it should be at any given moment, ofc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 163 @ 0.0055 = 0.8965 BTC
ThickAsThieves: Ken Slaughter video http://www.news-leader.com/article/20140302/BUSINESS04/303020022/Bitcoin-Springfield-mining-machines-Slaughter
ThickAsThieves: ;;genrate 7000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 7000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3815723798.81, is 0.000922589212592 BTC per day and 3.84412171913e-05 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: he says his avalons make $150/day
BingoBoingo: ;;genrate 400000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 400000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3815723798.81, is 0.0527193835767 BTC per day and 0.00219664098236 BTC per hour.
ThickAsThieves: "Well i called and talked to Ken today and he said Just Watch what happens in 3 weeks So i think that is the good news he is talking about, So i will wait the 3 weeks and reserve my judgement of everything till then"
ThickAsThieves: The FCC has issued a $1.9 million fine against Viacom, NBC Universal, and ESPN for their promotions of 2013 action movie Olympus has Fallen. According to a filing, it started receiving complaints in March of 2013, when Viacom-owned Comedy Central aired a trailer containing the two-tone emergency signal. The trailer aired several more times on other channels over the following days, and
ThickAsThieves: viewers weren't happy. "This is misleading and had our entire family running to the TV to find out what was going on, only to find it was a commercial," reads one complaint.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0050004 = 0.51 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1498 @ 0.00500003 = 7.49 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.13311598 = 2.6623 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61700 @ 0.00086145 = 53.1515 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.09099999 = 0.455 BTC [+]
nubbins`: ^ such a saucy quit msg :0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.00499839 = 0.8397 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: Neil yah actually that article of yours is what my intel people hit me over the head with
mircea_popescu: i remembered there's something amiss but didn't actually remember wtf it was so i ended up being all derpy about it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.08916749 = 2.14 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic yeah, sorta what he could get.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 yeah, they managed to lose their customer db a week or two ago. maybe that's all they lost, who's to know at this point.
cazalla: reading the casinobitco.in feb report - if bitcoin price is lower, would it be right to assume people would be more bitcoin as it's worth less?
cazalla: yet they seem to blame low price on less bets
cazalla: and no - i did not buy any of this i just like to read what people are doing
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves on the other hand, i'd be fucking amazed if buffett is still around in 10 years
mircea_popescu: let alone 20.
ThickAsThieves: well that's how it happene dwith sdice
ThickAsThieves: if it holds true it would be an indicator now that casinobit is dwindling
mircea_popescu: cazalla if there's some such effect, it'd conceivably show slower than one month
jcpham: dat gox shitshow
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Generally, advanced age can get people to go away
cazalla: they are blaming lower volume on lower price but i would think vol would be higher with lower price
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and before it does, it can get people to be unable to evaluate the future.
mircea_popescu: o wow look at this, mpoe-pr forum heroin nao ?
mircea_popescu: or how do you say, heroess ?
cazalla: heroine?
jcpham: mircea_popescu I told someone that MPOE-PR was light years ahead of mtgox the other day
cazalla: heroiness?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think now the trend is China White, or Heroine
jcpham: pretty sure they agreed
kakobrekla: cazalla got a link to that
mircea_popescu: Neil when do you release such a wonder anyway ?
mike_c: the guy is 83, he gets a pass. he has quite a track record of not being stupid.
cazalla: kakobrekla: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/reportdownload.php?id=70 page 4
mircea_popescu: mike_c he easily gets a pass from me too, he can say whatever the fuck he wants
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean i'll agree with what he says tho
kakobrekla: a pdf.
kakobrekla: which includes google docs spreadsheet link.
mircea_popescu: Neil at any rate, i wasn't saying there's something wron with the compilers, i said it depends how shit's implemented. basically, a write-out of "undefined"
kakobrekla: why is the report not on facebook
mike_c: which shows a complete lack of ability to run a sportsbook.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because facebook is for porn
mircea_popescu: o no wait.
mircea_popescu: jurov wait, reddit deletes threads ?
mircea_popescu: nah it's there, or at least i see it.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Twitter is for porn http://deadspin.com/the-cardinals-are-very-embarrassed-by-carlos-martinezs-1530572369
mircea_popescu: blergh.
mircea_popescu: hopefully the idiot got told to get fucked by the team.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Throws a baseball too good for that. Was told to just watch actual porn and skip the tweets
mircea_popescu: not that idiot. the other idiot.
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: "Matheny told two reporters this morning that he spoke privately to Martinez and that he addressed the team again about their actions on social media this morning."
mircea_popescu: matheny needs to be out of a job. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: this sort of irresponsible behaviour on his part is intolerable by a major.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if i owned the cardinals he'd be fired.
BingoBoingo: Problem is he is too good as well, at being grumpy and old.
mircea_popescu: fuck him.
mircea_popescu: you don't like porn, you don't get to work.
mircea_popescu: queue at the soup kitchen.
BingoBoingo: Well, when BTC tops $10,000 Maybe buy the Cardinals? Play at MPEx stadium?
benkay: http://bitbet.us/bet/621/any-altcoin-will-surpass-litecoin-in-market-capitalization/
ozbot: BitBet - Any altcoin will surpass Litecoin in market capitalization
benkay: mircea_popescu: u gon have a headache with that one
mircea_popescu: i'd rather buy something cool.
mircea_popescu: benkay tell me about it.
benkay: the "any coin" clause
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Make it a troll buy around $100k/BTC Matheny will prolly still be there by then.
mircea_popescu: ;;google how much did the cardinals cost last time
gribble: St. Louis Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Cardinals>; Red Sox World Series Tickets 81% Higher Than Cardinals ... - Forbes: <http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2013/10/20/red-sox-world-series-tickets-81-higher-than-cardinals-tickets-for-fall-classic/>; St Louis Cardinals on the Forbes MLB Team Valuations List: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: meh
mircea_popescu: mike_c i have no idea dood, i went to bed fully expecting to see it way lower. i come back... it's gone from 86-87 to what, 84ish
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: $150 million in 1995
mircea_popescu: owch. even at $100k / btc, it'll prolly be 10k btcs or some shit. seems excessive.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You forget that whol 'Murica collapsing part.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin can i get a summary ? i just fucking banned youtube.
BingoBoingo: 100k/BTC might be as forgetable a milestone as silver parity
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: the pope saying "cazzo"
copumpkin: during an address
mircea_popescu: haha
mircea_popescu: wait
mircea_popescu: isn't hte pope argentine ?!
mircea_popescu: he cusses in italian ?!
copumpkin: yeah, giving a speech in italian
copumpkin: it was a mistake, he was trying to say "caso"
copumpkin: :P
mircea_popescu: holy perra hermano!
copumpkin: but it was unambiguously cazzo
mircea_popescu: o i c
mircea_popescu: til : spanish is quite well gender balanced :
mircea_popescu: Then I touched her cunt.
mircea_popescu: Entonces le toqué la concha.
mircea_popescu: Entonces le toqué el mico.
mircea_popescu: Entonces le toque el coño.
mircea_popescu: Entonces le toque la panocha.
mircea_popescu: two masculine cunts, two feminine cunts.
mircea_popescu: jic.
mircea_popescu: lmao ken slaughter says THREE weeks ?
mircea_popescu: scam.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00495005 = 0.6782 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00648 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5480240#msg5480240
ozbot: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]
BingoBoingo: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/03/03/kennesaw-state-orders-museum-remove-are-racist-past-woman-whose-land-was-given#.UxR6DSFZPmM.twitter
ozbot: Kennesaw State orders museum to remove are on racist past of woman whose land was given to universit
Duffer1: common B-A injuries: severe bruising from facepalm repetition, permanent eyeroll syndrome
mircea_popescu: wait women are a race ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe to aspies?
mircea_popescu: "Out of this cesspool of vice rises that hideous monster, a possible menace to every home in the South. He has the savage nature and murderous instincts of the wild beast, plus the cunning and lust of a fiend."
mircea_popescu: ouch.
asciilifeform: took a break from my usual doings, wrote psot:
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446
mircea_popescu: "But her legacy has always been tarnished by the racist views that launched her career." / "but we've never managed to cope with the fact that people in the past did not think very much of the stereotypes we today hold dear"
ozbot: Loper OS » Modern Chumpatronic Engineering.
mircea_popescu: omgspam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18552 @ 0.00085969 = 15.949 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Ban SPAM!!!
kakobrekla: sorry about that.
BingoBoingo: Is Diablo-D3 still banned?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: is anyone still banned ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: are you married ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: do you mind if we keep asking you questions until you answer yes ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: did you ever have sex with an eskimo and/or navy seal ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: anything good on tv ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: did you write a script for this yet ?
kakobrekla: no
mircea_popescu: did you accept jesus in your heart and other cavities ?
kakobrekla: well, not at the same time.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: aite, i'm satisfied.
kakobrekla: k
wao-ender: lul http://blog.magicaltux.net/2010/06/27/php-can-do-anything-what-about-some-ssh/
BingoBoingo: Texas since #BitcoinTexas is a hashtag http://gawker.com/family-that-gets-arrested-for-meth-together-makes-out-i-1535467958
mircea_popescu: ahaha
mircea_popescu: wait, so siblings may not kiss in the us ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Generally not
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: fucking weird country that.
wao-ender: indeed.
wao-ender: such normal in Europe.
mircea_popescu: She said the two had been living in a motel with her 2-year-old twin daughters
BingoBoingo: Arised because another TwoBitIdiot like account https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles raised the issue of a Bitcoin Texas nonference
mircea_popescu: dude wtf, living in a motel ? what's that, like 50 bucks a night?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Depends on the motel, could go as low as $50 a week if the interstate is too fat.
BingoBoingo: or far
mircea_popescu: "How many incestuous half siblings does it take to screw in a lightbulb? You do the meth." << ahaha
mircea_popescu: gawker comments way better than gawker
BingoBoingo: For sure. Like Slashdot, or Ars.
mircea_popescu: "wow! this website is a scam, can we get a link to reddit and bitcointalk.org protest time!"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what the fuck are we doing with that retarded altcoin bet.
kakobrekla: kill all humans.
BingoBoingo: Flip a coin?
BingoBoingo: Preferably on of thickastheives's altcoins?
mircea_popescu: no but srsly.
wao-ender: I like it
wao-ender: huge pot in
kakobrekla: first of all
kakobrekla: what does "ends up" zactly mean
mircea_popescu: first of all i'm banning that retarded site, it's a signal about as good as pissing in the snow.
wao-ender: :D
mircea_popescu: http://coinmarketcap.com/ bs.
ozbot: Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations | Bitcoin Ripple Auroracoin Litecoin Peercoin Dogecoin Nxt Ma
wao-ender: I like art in snow.
wao-ender: with piss
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it's... ambiguous
mircea_popescu: 0.o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0432 = 0.1728 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: even more interesting is
kakobrekla: that the bet does not exclude ripple
mircea_popescu: ripple is not a coin tho
benkay: what is a coin?
kakobrekla: who am i?
mircea_popescu: gotta have a blockchain at a minimum neh ?
kakobrekla: they have some sort of blockchain
mircea_popescu: i mean otherwise what, facebook is a coin
wao-ender: it isn't ?!
mircea_popescu: mk ima go take a coinpiss and brb
kakobrekla: im selling all my facebucks then.
wao-ender: use buttcoins only please.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, i have a serious problem just giving 15 btc to some dorks who went and did what basically ?
mircea_popescu: aurora coin has nothing, atc is more fleshed out than it.
mircea_popescu: "we are going to help iceland"
mircea_popescu: it's not even fucking legal to trade btc in iceland.
kakobrekla: but at the end of the day its what the bet sez and what you can prove not what the truth is.
wao-ender: yeah
wao-ender: but aur doubled, nice pump & dump
benkay: it /is/ a coin.
kakobrekla: bitfury was such example.
benkay: just like atc and ltc and dgc
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla this is also true
mircea_popescu: "#2551 5,638 BTC volume."
mircea_popescu: where is it even listed ?
kakobrekla: i was wondering myself
kakobrekla: didnt find it
decimation: asciilifeform your blog post is good. I think the root of the issue (the reason why chumps bow prostrate to their masters) is that the chumps fail to distinguish fantasy from reality
decimation: a trustworth bitcoin exchange should exist, this is an exchange, therefore it is trustworthy?
mike_c: mircea_popescu: it at least makes me feel better that you were surprised too.
kakobrekla: it could be the guys set up something nonpublic and gave the guy the feed
mircea_popescu: decimation you ever read that grand tlp piece re trading ?
kakobrekla: now they just herp derp there
kakobrekla: while everyone is scratching heads
decimation: not sure, possibly
mircea_popescu: mike_c i capitulated re s.mpoe price making any sense like a year ago
mircea_popescu: i dun claim to understand it. maybe better minds later on.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498522.0;all
ozbot: MtGox source code leaked ...
mircea_popescu: o hey look at that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08916021 = 0.4458 BTC [-] {3}
joecool: posting this so nobody loses sleep
joecool: <MagicalTux> [07:10:14] <joecool> MagicalTux: kalyhost going to continue operations? <- that's the plan
mircea_popescu: "Does Deutsche Bank use php? Does HSBC use fucking MYSQL??? Do any of those banks comment out lines in production code for debugging?!?!?!?"
mircea_popescu: i suspek forum noobs would be mighty surprised.
decimation: I would be shocked if they didn't
joecool: probably all asp, the pinnacle of security
wao-ender: no, fortran!
mircea_popescu: joecool anyone use them other than forum ?
mike_c: bank software is probably terrible. i highly doubt they have good programmers.
mircea_popescu: anyway, commented out lines in production software are more common than web designers.
joecool: mike_c: windows server 2003 is stable ok?
mircea_popescu: heck, linux kernel has commented out lines
mircea_popescu: (or at least had, i'm not really following)
joecool: mircea_popescu: still does, i need to see how many uses of "fuck" they still have in source
mike_c: commented out lines are pretty bad (or at least a pet peeve). that's what source control is for.
joecool: used to have a tracker for that
decimation: what's wrong with commenting out lines of code? they are crumbs for students
mike_c: what's wrong is they make the code less readable, thereby making it harder for the 2nd programmer who has to touch the code.
joecool: mostly scheduler stuff, because nobody can make up mind how how to schedule tasks for 64k cpu's vs. a typical desktop
kakobrekla: i dont think forum is still on kalyhost
mircea_popescu: joecool > 42
kakobrekla: joecool well, he thought and say same for gox.
joecool: kakobrekla: well its ok though, MT says kalyhost is staying in operation
joecool: we have to believe him
mircea_popescu: mike_c pet or nonpet, fact.
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: who cares about source code
Bugpowder: 20GB of user docs leacked
kakobrekla: am i the only one so retarded to read the footer of the forum
kakobrekla: >Sponsored by Private Internet Access, a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
mircea_popescu: a ok
mircea_popescu: wait vpn ?
mircea_popescu: forum is on virtual hosting ?
kakobrekla: vpn is not vps
mircea_popescu: i guess that's kind-of impressing actually.
mircea_popescu: o
kakobrekla: but afaik they host them
mircea_popescu: yeah my blind.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder this is re the very concerning leak at mtgox,
mircea_popescu: in that ~20gb worth of idiots' passport scans are now in the wild.
Bugpowder: yeah.... GOD DAMN IT
mircea_popescu: these are EXTREMELY vulnerable people, because most of them have either forced their bank to accept "weird" txs
mircea_popescu: or even signed ok's for "weird" txs.
mircea_popescu: getting out of an identity theft mess will be a royal pain in the loins
Bugpowder: http://pastebin.com/N7B5DC4d
ozbot: Goxed - Pastebin.com
Bugpowder: My friends are not happy
Bugpowder: nor am I
mircea_popescu: i can' read all that. exec summary ?
Bugpowder: just find nanashi and read all his comments
mircea_popescu: a ok
Bugpowder: he didn't hack it
Bugpowder: they may release a torrent
Bugpowder: they say no personal info released of users
Bugpowder: they won't release personal info
Bugpowder: (probably they will sell that instead of leak it :(
Bugpowder: That motherfuckering tool.
mircea_popescu: derp.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ya well who toldja to use gox.
Bugpowder: You said OTC
TATrilllaInTehMi: I think u gotta take 'ends up' as 'when this bet closes'
Bugpowder: little did I expect OTC to be the SAFE routh
Bugpowder: route
mircea_popescu: yeah well.
decimation: well, at the very least with OTC damage is limited and healing
mircea_popescu: ^
Bugpowder: The user data all stored in mySQL
mircea_popescu: this is what strategic soundness is
Bugpowder: Dude was more concerned with putting a frappachino cafe in his own fucking building than using svn.
mircea_popescu: course, it IS possible the leaked thing is not actually their code.
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
ozbot: NameHomeMobilePersonal EmailEmergency ContactEmergency Number Adam Turner - Pastebin.com
asciilifeform: karpeles had a wife?
mircea_popescu: "I think what concerns me more than anything is that they're rounding some of their values."
mircea_popescu: wow.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://picasaweb.google.com/100317866314689750892/ProfilePhotos
mircea_popescu: lol o look, twitter beleeted, picasa beleeted, aww.
asciilifeform: was something there?
Bugpowder: borked
asciilifeform: empty now.
kakobrekla: maybe its his cat.
Bugpowder: Apple Pie?
mircea_popescu: kinda fun that everyone was acutally fucking japanese girls.
mircea_popescu: imagine these kids, you know ? buncha weaboos start card trading website
mircea_popescu: end up affording to move to japan and pork lolis all dai
mircea_popescu: talk about living the dream.
asciilifeform: well, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.'
TATrilllaInTehMi: is the fill fox DB in the wild yet?
TATrilllaInTehMi: full
decimation: they never did the laundry apparently
mircea_popescu: TATrilllaInTehMi afawk.
ivet: can anyone direct me to a good irc channel for bitstamp trading?
TATrilllaInTehMi: afawk=dunno?
BingoBoingo: ivet: Maybe get a cloak first?
mircea_popescu: as far as we know
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07727271 = 0.85 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: does #bitstamp exist ?
TATrilllaInTehMi: I know
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.msg5492674#msg5492674 << check out karpeles' sock doing damage control. ☟︎
ozbot: Calling out the Bitcoin Foundation Scam.
mircea_popescu: such noobs, le wow.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00085761 = 15.9515 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Oh, moar anti-porn n00bs http://deadspin.com/which-knbr-employee-is-downloading-huge-amounts-of-porn-1535336358
kakobrekla: bitstamp tard came spamming re bitstamp back in 2012 or what was it, to such extent that he got a k-line
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00494475 = 1.9779 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 65736.15109940 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 643.2, vol: 41149.86071 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 680.0, vol: 49700.76269936 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 644.809386, vol: 16392.57100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 670.89335, vol: 67.80058344 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 663.4488, vol: 419.40543934 | Volume-weighted last average: 667.901191362
kakobrekla: >Dj Dope
kakobrekla: 12:32 AM (3 minutes ago) > hey guys can you resolve this as a yes, aurora already almost doubled and everyone else agrees? thanx
BingoBoingo: Looks like BTC has serious drama support this week
kakobrekla: ....
kakobrekla: mp everyone else agrees.
kakobrekla: that has to be THE merit.
kakobrekla: what u say eh
ThickAsThieves: i left a disagree
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes everyone agrees, let's send the winners to gox.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339544.msg5491951#msg5491951
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
mircea_popescu: i dunno, to me this entire shit looks like a transparent attempt of the quoted site to made 10 btc or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the entire auroracoin thing looks like it cost less than what the bet would bring in.
BingoBoingo: So verdict is "Yes" everyone gets beta access to Gox 2 Electric Bugabear
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00085703 = 3.9423 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: no but seriously, anyone got a link to any place auroracoin thing is actually traded ?
ThickAsThieves: add to the FAQ: In a circumstance where an accepted bet is determined to have unreliable determining factors, BitBet shall choose factors as best it can, or refund all bets at its own discretion.
BingoBoingo: Refund everybody minus fee? "Poorly spec's BitBEt Med getting whipped"
ThickAsThieves: www.cryptsy.com
ThickAsThieves: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/160
ozbot: Cryptsy - AUR/BTC Market
mircea_popescu: eh get the fuck out, cryptsy never saw 1k btc in its entire existence
ThickAsThieves: surely it has
ThickAsThieves: but i still agree
ThickAsThieves: this is way fishy
ThickAsThieves: and a scam
BingoBoingo: It is a lesson in forcing better specs
ThickAsThieves: should probably just refund everyone
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i can't ok this. i mean i couldn't care less either way, it's bettors' btc on either side of the bet.
ThickAsThieves: i have a bet in there
mircea_popescu: but for the love of the sanctity of marriage...
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i can't fucking push it either, it's a legitimate contention.
BingoBoingo: I mean scamcoin tricks suggest forcing people to either spec better signals or kill MPOE bot
kakobrekla: firstly, how will you handle 'ends up' ?
kakobrekla: was there an answer to this
ThickAsThieves: if it's legitimate it was from day 1
ThickAsThieves: Yes
ThickAsThieves: i think 'ends up' is important to define
kakobrekla: secondly, it doesnt specify if it has to be minable/premined or to which extent that can be
BingoBoingo: This might be a good time to suggest a BitBet, "Bitbet to not accept further Altcoin Marketcap bets in 2014"
ThickAsThieves: 'ends' has a menaing after all
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nope
ThickAsThieves: precedent at bitbet is to say 'above x rate at any time, or by a specific time' etc
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well it specifies "coin"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 806 @ 0.00480085 = 3.8695 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: it specifies 'altcoin'
mircea_popescu: aite.
ThickAsThieves: in the headline at least
mircea_popescu: most fucked up bet of 2013 award
ThickAsThieves: hmm
ThickAsThieves: where is AUR blockchain viewable?
mircea_popescu: the sad irony of it all beinbg that i hazily recall mod asking me if i see a problem and me saying no.
ThickAsThieves: can coins in circulation be confirmed?
mircea_popescu: i guess i was right... it's not that there's A problem.
BingoBoingo: Nah, most fucked up might get litigated around 12 UTC
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i guess if someone can be bothered to install their wallet.
ThickAsThieves: i'm not icelandic
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: maybe we should just crash it.
BingoBoingo: x-bt doesn't trade it though
mircea_popescu: "bitbet resolves dubious bet by crashing dubious altscam into the ground"
ThickAsThieves: what websites has bitbet allowed as proof in the past?
ThickAsThieves: btc-e
ThickAsThieves: any others?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for he record, Лохотрон is way better than "Chumpatron"
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves lots.
mircea_popescu: bitcoincharts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but of course.
mircea_popescu: blockchain
ThickAsThieves: those dont have alts
ThickAsThieves: sry
mircea_popescu: well you askd
ThickAsThieves: i meant for altcoin bets
mircea_popescu: not really many alt bets allowed till recently.
asciilifeform: 'you go to war with' the pidgin you have, not the literary language you wish you had...
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: also i think tpoh does not even nearly map on the english tron
mircea_popescu: which is more like... half of the tron troff pair than anything
BingoBoingo: Fuck, Imma have to learn Russian by June aren't I
ThickAsThieves: how about i tell which side i bet on and you just resolve it to that?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: by april!
ThickAsThieves: as good a criteria as any here !
mircea_popescu: "russian by june" sounds like a good book
mircea_popescu: provided june is a hawt ukrainian blondy
nubbins`: ^
ThickAsThieves: Only Fools Russian
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If they come this fast I live way to close to a trascom outpost.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i imagine you're on the no side
nubbins`: :o
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04242 = 0.8484 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i wont tell you, otherwise Scam accusations
kakobrekla: it cant resolve as no yet
asciilifeform: once met a military type (american) who knew just one russian phrase, but knew it very well: 'don't shoot - i know secrets'
mircea_popescu: jhahaha
ThickAsThieves: nice
mircea_popescu: good phrase to know.
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BD%D0%B5+%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%B9%D1%82%D0%B5+-+%D1%8F+%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8E+%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8B&complete=0
BingoBoingo: I've been learning in the wrong direction then. My first phrase was "Fuck your mother горничная"
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: did that key work?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin yeah. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2014#541337 ☝︎
copumpkin: oh, sorry, must've been offline or mentally impaired
copumpkin: thanks!
mircea_popescu: have fun
copumpkin tries his magic stat
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If you want a lower stakes pro sports team https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Greys is probably available for under 300 BTC and... No facilities to maintain