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: there's a difference between selecting for intelligent users and selecting for inept hoop jumping acrobatic users -- and "foss
" managed to implement the 2nd kind while loudly making postureclaims as to everything under the sun.
: a most infuriating implementation of broken-by-design, ironically exactly the thing foss
was supposed to prevent.
: asciilifeform the lulziest thing is how all these born-in-65-foss
-blabla tards end up ALWAYS on the fucking forefront and speartip of usg.blue isms.
: AS DOING. The fact the rest of you are now finally realizing that some of the problems I already solved years ago were, in fact, real issues, is mildly amusing to me in a morbid way. If you have competent developers on this lsit you don't NEED my patches, you can figure out how to do it from the _idea_ in a couple hours." << there, as good an epitaph FOSS
could ever get.
: "curio cabinet" approx. but kunst is art, reminded me of teh whole thing, because guess what ? we all grew up with this idea foss
/gcc/glibc/whatever "magic inside!!!"
: anyone with even cursory qualifications in software project management could have pointed out they have 0 chances of managing the switch before their chosen platform dies (they took 12+ years to fuck up the original codebase, glacial foss
devcycles as only gnu can exemplify).
: meanwhile, for pro entomologists only, https://archive.is/UFTWQ
( e.g. 'Some like SNS Server have no reported breaches over almost 30 years. Companies wouldn’t buy them. FOSS
folks don’t build them. To this day and uniquely to this sub-field, most folks well-known in security act like none of that work ever happened, ignore those methods that got results, and slowly reinvent them or knockoffs of them with less results. Their kern
: in the end, "foss
" is not any more coherent, or intellectually respectable, than christianity.
: asciilifeform supposedly big deal in this "foss
" thing i never heard about. i dunno.
: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss
" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves".
' 'development' follows the pattern illustrated in the old jp game 'katamari damacy' , where ball rolls around and picks up rusty nails, rubbish, people, dogs, trees, candy bars, etc
: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss
" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves". ☟
: it's entirely there, that's exactly how this "foss
" shit works, by sexiness.
: in any case it's very much "this is what foss
is", a token and an icon.
: Logged on 2015-05-01 17:16 mircea_popescu: the path from the current FOSS
, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine
: phf, there's been this ancient grudge between "mysql people" and "php people" in the following sense : in the 90s, the "foss
community" consisted of a sad indeology-lite republic that still had enough people to get shit done. they needed an egine for their "revolution" which was to be centered around "the web", a shoddy, ill conceived can of mostly "make it easy for people to participate AND IT WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD [of pe
: speaking of which, it's true that the whole alt-pantsuit "foss
" movement failed to design (or to deliver, or to mean anything, or etcetera, sursure), but nevertheless the ashes they left behind are amenable to retrospective redesign.
: "Virtue signaling persists only because too few of us are willing to speak out against it. The good news is that I've noticed an increasing amount of opposition to political correctness culture in the FOSS
world. We're fighting back, and we're winning, albeit slowly."
: ben_vulpes i am entirely unsurprised. the "scale bitcoin" shitheads + the "exciting blockchain technologee" shitheads + the "we are marketing" dogeheads are pretty much === the cancer that has eaten foss
: ( It's foss
, so don't shoot me )
: basicallyt the great success of the FOSS
was that corporations used them to spearhead cost reductions. no longer is there any need to, for instance, offer any support. they're open source! except not.
: in other nutty, apparently there's a rather active tlp subreddit. in case anyone's unclear as to how "foss
" works : they'll soon enough come up with a tlp 2.0 and then discontinue the original website.
: talk sensibly trinque ; gnuzip is made by foss
, it has had millions of eyes on it. all bugs are shallow!
: the quality of code is uneven in the usual foss
sense ; its main virtue is that being old, it is mostly not new.
: Framedragger most of the usg corps steal foss
and posture as a business strategy.
: afaik this is entirely unwalked ground, for all the foss
bs about million eyes.
: what fucking foss
. there is no foss
. microsoft is the natural structure of ustards and everyone taking after them ; which is to see in a hurry to see results and in no particular mood to examine the quality thereof.
: this is a fucking issue ffs. if the world worked like FOSS
~pretends it worked~ then we'd have LIKE HALF A DOZEN ssh protocol definitions ; which'd still interoperate ; and from hundreds to just one implementations of each of those. by distinct people in distinct teams.
: asciilifeform you gotta learn to judiciously allocate your time ; Framedragger the problem isn't so much locking up the box - it's that the box will fuck up, this being "foss
" bullshit, and then the owner will be like "i dun wanna pay for a box i can't use, notwithstanding this is what i claimed i want".
: i dunno how would anyone ever argue in favour of the foss
delusion. the data's pretty clear.
: ben_vulpes unsurprisingly. pretty much all of extant "foss
" is cat-v.org redone.
: esp as this is >1 year old by now. foss
right, many eyes ?
: yest log is a grim testament of just how little faith republic has in gnupg, and for that matter gnu/foss
: also, i had never read that dabblers and blowhards essay before, but good god is graham unfucking bearable AND ALSO remarkably undistinguishable from every other foss
idiot, from o reilly to who have you, if distilled like that.
: he has the strong excuse no bitcoin was there. but the main problem of bitcoin as "foss
" is precisely this - that various idiots think they may change things.
: it's true foss
died ; for which reason it carries little water here. but the frustration is a) the inability of foss
to maintain strong immutability in front of organised crime, be it usg or otherwise ; b) the part where it can't actually move is valid, but not exactly for the reason he describes.
: yeah, it was part of a discussion of rms/foss
: you recall ? was some foss
"expert" blog article, in which he detailed some bugfixing he did, except it was of the nature of "i removed undigested corn kernel from shit on wall - all better now"
: check it out, we managed to replicate in vitro ALL OF FOSS
: asciilifeform in any case, while the value of "bright young fellow wants to learn boyer-moore through checking out phf's code" is there ; i'm not about to push you to publish phuctor code for some vague fetishist love of foss
. which i don't have.
: personally i'm much more invested in beheading the schmuck over the "web 2.0" bullshit than whatever foss
: imo gpl/gnu/foss
/blabla is all sunk by the fact that they wish to oppose SOME effects of socialism, while staying socialist.
: he is correct in that foss
is mostly a problem unto itself, making the previous situation worse rather than better.
: phf: Well, when you look at history of TLS, you'll notice that modes of operation are not obvious. My approach for TFC is first of it's kind (at least in FOSS
world). My approach on a-b is to see whether CIA-triad is fulfilled. If my peer can be tricked into sending messages to infiltrator / network attack that changes a single public key etc. all security is lost
: gotta love this homogeneous mass of 'foss
', that 'came from nowhere', written by 'no one'
: perhaps the biggest matzah ball hanging over the heads of all this well meaning & naive "foss
" thing is the sheer disinclination of the kids to do research.
: so everything starts as gpl, welcomes any sucker foss
head to contribute, then "progresses" to a mit license and hey, maybe apple wants to buy it!
: Logged on 08-01-2016 17:20:18; mircea_popescu: they stole some foss
and filed the serials off, butterfly labs style.
: they stole some foss
and filed the serials off, butterfly labs style. ☟
: BingoBoingo i wonder if this has anything to do with the ongoing systemd-ization of foss
: asciilifeform that style of presumption is 150% of what's wrong with foss
: but this notwithstanding, you don't need any sort of conspiracy to explain linux drift, or foss
: if FOSS
had a hand in it, i'd buy 10k cpus every time i wanted to make a working station.
: mircea_popescu: [malleability] 'This is a major problem, principally driven by the deliberately broken state of the FOSS
' << btw it affects pgp (via the braindamaged pkcs1.5) to same extent
: you're guaranteed to discover unsavory contents in all foss
matter, exactly like asciilifeform found in gpg.
: or is it an utter and impredictable mess in the manner of everything else foss
: Logged on 17-10-2015 00:15:17; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss
" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.
: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "foss
" code without shitgnome signatures to come from. ☟
: this fucking offensive FOSS
/original_wiki brand of "simple clear concise" idiocy is driving me up the wall, today, as the movement's dead just like it was back when the movement was nascent.
: yeah, you're missing the something where gimp is pretty much the only foss
success in the actual marketplace.
: this is ultimately why foss
failed. yes, it did (sort of, but originally much better than currently) allow the U seating part.
: honestly this entire bs caught me unaware in spite of yeah shoulda known better. somehow assumed wtf, it's foss
, will be ok.
: trinque yeah. more important for a powerful foss
: the fsf, and the "foss
" concoction, are going to be gone before the usg.
: sitting on thumbs and stroking cocks over "FOSS
!111" has resulted in pretty much unusable software.
: <mats> how is it possible this has escaped audit all this time << welcome to the wunderbar world of FOSS
, aka a chunk of raw meat in the sun, festering with a million grub eyes
: mircea_popescu: " foss
is fundamentally immune to this bs" < not clear. however I suspect usg would not want to try to stick someone posting foss
- because the courts would likely find that this kind of regulation would contradict the first amendment
: decimation foss
is fundamentally immune to this bs, and who uses ms hypervisor
: there are other people matching exactly hpa's profile (high value foss
target) with keys apparently added in the same manner. not too many.
: asciilifeform nobody asks intel. the idea was, if FOSS
actually can deliver on the promises it makes, then it takes over at that juncture.
: the itanic thing was perhaps the breaking point for FOSS
, in retrospect.
: you mean to tell me if we intend to use any FOSS
thing the way that'll happen is if we write it first ?
: the path from the current FOSS
, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine ☟