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mp_en_viaje: people, generally, ineptly failing to make ~good~ websites back in 2001 meant, necessarily, that the space'll eventually be taken up by "platforms".
foss retards failing to make useful software back in 2006 meant, necessarily, that the space'll eventually be taken up by ubuntus. similarly with dcs, the "vibrant market" for many independent people's boxes is being eaten by netflix in the wake of googleamazon ops, and has been.
mp_en_viaje: without this, all of linux (and all of the SMALLER
foss, which piggy-backs on it, and always has, and always would have and forever would have had ; and certainly all of the even smaller and insignificant if more
organisedly-stupid GNU) would have forever stayed the exact equivalent of an obscure gentoo repackaging three kids maintain for purely self-actualisation & escapist reasons. [
http://trilema. mp_en_viaje: but back to the issue : i suspect all things any one actually wants will be easier and readylier had by taking an older version and cutting it down to sit on tmsr computing environment than by trying to run it on the campbell-soupcan flavour of windows, be it "
foss"/"gnu"/"linux"/adobe/oracle/apple/whatever, they;re all windowses
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 13:13 mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "
foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li
mircea_popescu: because the republic's a practice, not a "narrative" aka daydream. fundamentally, what distinguishes us from the github hipster /
foss moron / entire collected pile of avortons looking for their abortion from "the bay area" & portland to
eudemocracia and beyond is that we don't read on the first pass, BUT ON THE SEC
mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "
foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "
foss" today is basically working for microsoft but without pension/dental
mircea_popescu: but at least this deeply
foss process is asking me for my password every 5 minutes, so how bad can it be.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 14:36 mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc as a gcc in the
foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc as a gcc in the
foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
☝︎☟︎ mp_en_viaje: "I should just burn it all down and start something completely fresh. I always thought CFD combustion models are super fascinating. Maybe I'll do that next. Or maybe I'll just drop off the grid, get a regular job, and write EDA software just for me and nobody else. Fuck
FOSS EDA. " << i wonder what happened there.
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907209 << it's not effective for you, personally. this is deliberate, because we deliberately do not wish to support the "
foss ethos", so to call this contemporaneous impudence where sophomore medical school students expect to walk into operating theatres and start cutting on bodies as they lay on operating tables.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: there's a difference between selecting for intelligent users and selecting for inept hoop jumping acrobatic users -- and "
foss" managed to implement the 2nd kind while loudly making postureclaims as to everything under the sun.
mircea_popescu: a most infuriating implementation of broken-by-design, ironically exactly the thing
foss was supposed to prevent.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the lulziest thing is how all these born-in-65-
foss-blabla tards end up ALWAYS on the fucking forefront and speartip of usg.blue isms.
mircea_popescu: AS DOING. The fact the rest of you are now finally realizing that some of the problems I already solved years ago were, in fact, real issues, is mildly amusing to me in a morbid way. If you have competent developers on this lsit you don't NEED my patches, you can figure out how to do it from the _idea_ in a couple hours." << there, as good an epitaph
FOSS could ever get.
mircea_popescu: "curio cabinet" approx. but kunst is art, reminded me of teh whole thing, because guess what ? we all grew up with this idea
foss/gcc/glibc/whatever "magic inside!!!"
mircea_popescu: anyone with even cursory qualifications in software project management could have pointed out they have 0 chances of managing the switch before their chosen platform dies (they took 12+ years to fuck up the original codebase, glacial
foss devcycles as only gnu can exemplify).
mircea_popescu: in the end, "
foss" is not any more coherent, or intellectually respectable, than christianity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform supposedly big deal in this "
foss" thing i never heard about. i dunno.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "
foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves".
mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "
foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's entirely there, that's exactly how this "
foss" shit works, by sexiness.
mircea_popescu: in any case it's very much "this is what
foss is", a token and an icon.
a111: Logged on 2015-05-01 17:16 mircea_popescu: the path from the current
FOSS, roughly approximating a spunk-crusted sock floating in a pringles can half full with week old urine
mircea_popescu: phf, there's been this ancient grudge between "mysql people" and "php people" in the following sense : in the 90s, the "
foss community" consisted of a sad indeology-lite republic that still had enough people to get shit done. they needed an egine for their "revolution" which was to be centered around "the web", a shoddy, ill conceived can of mostly "make it easy for people to participate AND IT WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD [of pe
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, it's true that the whole alt-pantsuit "
foss" movement failed to design (or to deliver, or to mean anything, or etcetera, sursure), but nevertheless the ashes they left behind are amenable to retrospective redesign.
mircea_popescu: "Virtue signaling persists only because too few of us are willing to speak out against it. The good news is that I've noticed an increasing amount of opposition to political correctness culture in the
FOSS world. We're fighting back, and we're winning, albeit slowly."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i am entirely unsurprised. the "scale bitcoin" shitheads + the "exciting blockchain technologee" shitheads + the "we are marketing" dogeheads are pretty much === the cancer that has eaten
foss.
shinohai: ( It's
foss, so don't shoot me )
mircea_popescu: basicallyt the great success of the
FOSS was that corporations used them to spearhead cost reductions. no longer is there any need to, for instance, offer any support. they're open source! except not.
mircea_popescu: in other nutty, apparently there's a rather active tlp subreddit. in case anyone's unclear as to how "
foss" works : they'll soon enough come up with a tlp 2.0 and then discontinue the original website.
mircea_popescu: talk sensibly trinque ; gnuzip is made by
foss, it has had millions of eyes on it. all bugs are shallow!
mircea_popescu: the quality of code is uneven in the usual
foss sense ; its main virtue is that being old, it is mostly not new.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger most of the usg corps steal
foss and posture as a business strategy.
mircea_popescu: afaik this is entirely unwalked ground, for all the
foss bs about million eyes.
mircea_popescu: what fucking
foss. there is no
foss. microsoft is the natural structure of ustards and everyone taking after them ; which is to see in a hurry to see results and in no particular mood to examine the quality thereof.
mircea_popescu: this is a fucking issue ffs. if the world worked like
FOSS ~pretends it worked~ then we'd have LIKE HALF A DOZEN ssh protocol definitions ; which'd still interoperate ; and from hundreds to just one implementations of each of those. by distinct people in distinct teams.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you gotta learn to judiciously allocate your time ; Framedragger the problem isn't so much locking up the box - it's that the box will fuck up, this being "
foss" bullshit, and then the owner will be like "i dun wanna pay for a box i can't use, notwithstanding this is what i claimed i want".
mircea_popescu: i dunno how would anyone ever argue in favour of the
foss delusion. the data's pretty clear.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes unsurprisingly. pretty much all of extant "
foss" is cat-v.org redone.
mircea_popescu: esp as this is >1 year old by now.
foss right, many eyes ?
mircea_popescu: yest log is a grim testament of just how little faith republic has in gnupg, and for that matter gnu/
foss generally.
mircea_popescu: also, i had never read that dabblers and blowhards essay before, but good god is graham unfucking bearable AND ALSO remarkably undistinguishable from every other
foss idiot, from o reilly to who have you, if distilled like that.
mircea_popescu: he has the strong excuse no bitcoin was there. but the main problem of bitcoin as "
foss" is precisely this - that various idiots think they may change things.
mircea_popescu: it's true
foss died ; for which reason it carries little water here. but the frustration is a) the inability of
foss to maintain strong immutability in front of organised crime, be it usg or otherwise ; b) the part where it can't actually move is valid, but not exactly for the reason he describes.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it was part of a discussion of rms/
foss/etc ineptitude.
mircea_popescu: you recall ? was some
foss "expert" blog article, in which he detailed some bugfixing he did, except it was of the nature of "i removed undigested corn kernel from shit on wall - all better now"
mircea_popescu: check it out, we managed to replicate in vitro ALL OF
FOSS mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in any case, while the value of "bright young fellow wants to learn boyer-moore through checking out phf's code" is there ; i'm not about to push you to publish phuctor code for some vague fetishist love of
foss. which i don't have.
mircea_popescu: personally i'm much more invested in beheading the schmuck over the "web 2.0" bullshit than whatever
foss drama.
mircea_popescu: imo gpl/gnu/
foss/blabla is all sunk by the fact that they wish to oppose SOME effects of socialism, while staying socialist.
mircea_popescu: he is correct in that
foss is mostly a problem unto itself, making the previous situation worse rather than better.
maqp: phf: Well, when you look at history of TLS, you'll notice that modes of operation are not obvious. My approach for TFC is first of it's kind (at least in
FOSS world). My approach on a-b is to see whether CIA-triad is fulfilled. If my peer can be tricked into sending messages to infiltrator / network attack that changes a single public key etc. all security is lost
ascii_butugychag: gotta love this homogeneous mass of '
foss', that 'came from nowhere', written by 'no one'
mircea_popescu: perhaps the biggest matzah ball hanging over the heads of all this well meaning & naive "
foss" thing is the sheer disinclination of the kids to do research.
mircea_popescu: so everything starts as gpl, welcomes any sucker
foss head to contribute, then "progresses" to a mit license and hey, maybe apple wants to buy it!
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2016 17:20:18; mircea_popescu: they stole some
foss and filed the serials off, butterfly labs style.
mircea_popescu: they stole some
foss and filed the serials off, butterfly labs style.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i wonder if this has anything to do with the ongoing systemd-ization of
foss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that style of presumption is 150% of what's wrong with
foss.
mircea_popescu: but this notwithstanding, you don't need any sort of conspiracy to explain linux drift, or
foss decay.
mircea_popescu: if
FOSS had a hand in it, i'd buy 10k cpus every time i wanted to make a working station.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: [malleability] 'This is a major problem, principally driven by the deliberately broken state of the
FOSS' << btw it affects pgp (via the braindamaged pkcs1.5) to same extent
mircea_popescu: you're guaranteed to discover unsavory contents in all
foss matter, exactly like asciilifeform found in gpg.
mircea_popescu: or is it an utter and impredictable mess in the manner of everything else
foss ?
assbot: Logged on 17-10-2015 00:15:17; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "
foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi where you expect "
foss" code without shitgnome signatures to come from.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this fucking offensive
FOSS/original_wiki brand of "simple clear concise" idiocy is driving me up the wall, today, as the movement's dead just like it was back when the movement was nascent.
mircea_popescu: yeah, you're missing the something where gimp is pretty much the only
foss success in the actual marketplace.
mircea_popescu: this is ultimately why
foss failed. yes, it did (sort of, but originally much better than currently) allow the U seating part.
mircea_popescu: honestly this entire bs caught me unaware in spite of yeah shoulda known better. somehow assumed wtf, it's
foss, will be ok.
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah. more important for a powerful
foss than gcc.