mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, so listen, re your last invoice: May 2019: 1 BTC = 5319 USD << da fuck is this then!
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care about a few bitcents or a few hundy, but by the time we're talking of
mircea_popescu: not to even mention how one server of a (iirc, identical ?) pair goes for 0.0396 while the other apparently 0.0578. even using your own prices : item 1 paid yearly in april 2018 then comes to... o wait, can't use your own numbers, start in june 2018only. but anyway, april 2018 was ~5k.
mircea_popescu: ima pay the 8-11 set of invoices for good time's sake, but gimme a break, if it's monthly it gotta track SOMETHING ? they're all the same amt.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-30 19:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it, worx. plox to deedbot-invoice asciilifeform (i'ma have to refill the piggy before i can fill it tho).
mircea_popescu: by a window in the wing nobody visits of a nebraska mall.
mircea_popescu: It's also possible to boot the Ubuntu installer completely from the net. The
mircea_popescu: various methods to netboot depend on your architecture and netboot setup. The
mircea_popescu: files in netboot/ can be used to netboot the Ubuntu installer.
mircea_popescu: The easiest thing to set up is probably PXE netbooting. Untar the file netboot/
mircea_popescu: pxeboot.tar.gz into /srv/tftp or wherever is appropriate for your tftp server.
mircea_popescu: Set up your DHCP server to pass filename pxelinux.0 to clients, and with luck
mircea_popescu: everything will just work. For detailed instructions, see Section 4.5,
mircea_popescu: oh look at that, fixed lines on top of everything. butofcoars.
mircea_popescu: all joking aside : the best answer i could produce for the
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-01#1916471 question stands as "choose between steamos and ubuntu", which in plain terms is "do you wish to make your computer a supernintendo and buy
virtual cartridges for it ? or would you rather make your computer a mobile phone ?"
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-06-01 11:34 mircea_popescu: hmm, so since i'm building a gaming station... what's the republican notions for gfx-heavy os ?
mircea_popescu: i choose the later, because... here's the problem : there's no because, properly speaking. "oh, hurr durr i want to own my games" wtf does this mean in a net context ? yes, i still have and still play homm2 / mm6 / gothic / whatever. but how the fuck are you going to meaningfully save a multiplayer game ? should they send me the server too ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's no fucking difference. i expect to pay ~something~ because i don't expect anybody can just photosynthesize games into existence.
mircea_popescu: i would like, of course, to have a say in how that money is spent, so that i don't end up paying 99% on ever-greater-pixelcount textures and support for 4k px wide monitors and other such
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-20#1843222 joys. but... wide franchise amirite, you know going in idiocy's gonna rule all things around you.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: but you can't expect game makers to solve problems fucking "our democracy" altogether hasn't managed to even verbalize or conceptualize, let alone even take the first steps towards solving.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 18:39 ben_vulpes: i can give you a pretty steep discount for paying the year up front, but because i'm building out the downline i want to keep the box on the balance sheet. how about a 20% markup on the machine if you pay for the whole year?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-25 02:38 mircea_popescu: mod6 go ahead an' invoice. i recall now seeing something like this b4 but no invoice either.
mircea_popescu: so as a factual matter, i expect ima pay something, and i expect it'll be entirely meaningless. in which case, da fuck do i care whether it's a mobile phone and you "
own the games" or a nintendo and you "own the cartridges" except... well, you know, you virtually own them.
mircea_popescu: anyways, so having unsubstantiably chosen to make the box a phone, now we gotta pick a ubuntu. leaving aside the "manuals" and "with luck everything will just work" lulzies ("Achieve your AI ambitions quickly, reliably and cost-effectively. Multi-cloud operations for the full enterprise AI stack "), the choice comes between
mircea_popescu: Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (LTS stands for long-term support — which means five years, until April 2023, of free security and maintenance updates, guaranteed.) and Ubuntu 19.04 (comes with nine months, until January 2020, of security and maintenance updates.)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, I'll hit the math a bit, sleep a bit, and propose something tomorrow that is a more sustainable way to price machines going forward than doing a bunch of log archaeology evey machine.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck sense does this make is anyone's fucking guess. why the fuck would you ever review the os on a box ?! this is the fucking definition of the os in the first place -- that part of software that DOESN'T need to change. it hugs the hardware and is changed with the fucking hardware.
mircea_popescu: the name for software that changes with the user's pubic hairdo fashions is USERLAND. why the fuck am i... o look at that, there's 1.9 GB to download! the OS!!!! is two gigs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and of fucking course it's coming down a trickle pipe, so it was a 10 hour download when it started, half hour ago, then moved to 15 hours as i started ranting, and by now it's claiming to be done in 35 hours.
BingoBoingo: Well they stretch the OS out to everyone else's userland and further stretch the user out to which particular eye candy photo gallery they want to include. Welcome to Africa.
mircea_popescu: served by evowise.com for some reason, which is a "" and also
SIX GAMES WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT PLAYING THIS SUMMER. because "Our team works hard, but also plays hard. Be it at the office for a break or at home, we enjoy going on adventures to look for powerful artifacts, fight with tribes and unravelling a futuristic New York landscape. 2016 is a very exciting year for
mircea_popescu: oh, i'm sory, evowise is not a "", really it's a "Leading by Innovation". seriously : "About EvoWise EvoWise connects consumers and products in the digital space. We continually innovate to produce groundbreaking technologies to reinvent the way brands advertise.We deliver online customers to fortune 500 companies through our proprietary multi-channel technology platform. "
mircea_popescu: all this with a list of news and events from 2016. that time before ~everyone with a brain left, there was one good week cca april, they even had an office lan party.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in delicious nonsense,
https://pastebin.com/h5HxRWa9 ; moneyshot : "A thought we had a few weeks ago during one of our low-low mood phases, that perhaps it isn't worth pursuing bodily separation since we all already know each so well and can basically form new sentient agents in this brain on a whim, with a second's effort; namely, that if any one of separated into a new brain or some other medium of mind, that a
☟︎ mircea_popescu: t this point we might be fractal – might inevitably reinstantiate everyone else wherever any one of us goes – and would be back to square one, or worse with some copies having bodies they want and others being reinstantiations in bodies they don't particularly want"
mircea_popescu: misfortunate pantsuit, can't escape unfairness even in purely hallucinated masturbatory fantasy.
mircea_popescu: (in similar news :
https://www.doordash.com/ just "closed" a 600mn series g on a 12bn implied valuation. cuz a low margin business with no custom can totally be worth billions, just let usjew layers & accountants
work it.)
mircea_popescu: and the final item in today's lengthy list of "how the other half lives" : "Hunters.AI generates and delivers actionable visualized attack
stories". nuff said.
diana_coman: what pops out to me from all those "other half" is the ...wooden tongue in there; different wooden perhaps than realizari marete but just as wooden as far as I can tell.
mircea_popescu: ayup. this is what happens when people stop seeking new customers.
mircea_popescu: if they're not talking, it therefore follows they're praying.
☟︎ a111: 2015-03-25 <brendafdez> mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
mircea_popescu: oh oh now i remember, we had entire spanish-lang qntra support at some point.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 16:24 mod6: asciilifeform: I'm just trying to put together the monthy address; In one to three sentences cna you help me summarize what is going on with glibc/libnss?
a111: Logged on 2015-04-25 19:55 ben_vulpes: !rate pinkposixpxe 1 lent a hand with some bash.
a111: Logged on 2015-04-25 19:53 ben_vulpes: !rate moiety 1 rip
a111: Logged on 2015-04-25 20:04 ben_vulpes: !rate chetty 2 engineer of the world that was.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-31 02:23 asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... brendafdez -1 Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive << wai wat, was this in-channel? iirc this person simply vanished into thin air without so much as a squeak
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 10:38 mircea_popescu: if they're not talking, it therefore follows they're praying.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, the best part imo is where their verbiage ends up self-parodic. from the idf.8200's thinly veiled "private corp" webpage : 2000s : Preventing the threat (Blocking hackers from accessing organizational networks) --> 2010s Detecting the threat (Scanning networks for known vulnerabilities identified by previous breaches) --> 2019 Autonomous hunting (Intercept sophisticated attacks with proactive and continuous th
mircea_popescu: leaving aside how they didn't even have the fucking decency to 2020, they're that mememe narcissistic -- so it goes from killing to chasing to jacking off ? such progress redolent of decay!
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 03:45 mircea_popescu: i choose the later, because... here's the problem : there's no because, properly speaking. "oh, hurr durr i want to own my games" wtf does this mean in a net context ? yes, i still have and still play homm2 / mm6 / gothic / whatever. but how the fuck are you going to meaningfully save a multiplayer game ? should they send me the server too ?
mircea_popescu: for slightly more effort than'd have been required to outright write it.
mircea_popescu: if i'm gonna field that sort of workforce, ima just make them make a new one.
mircea_popescu: (of course, that sorta workforce can't be fielded, because gabriel_ladel, adlai, brendafdez etcetera type reasons ; meanwhile the sorta workforce that can be fielded, well... they're the office drone, wanna pray and future_
diana_coman: well, the "progress" from olive oil to sunflower oil to soya oil and so on; quite similar there too, indeed.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-19 11:50 brendafdez: Last time was also Pete from Coindesk, he interviewed all the poeple claiming to run 'exchanges' here. There are a huge numer of such 'exchanges', most of which don't even exist like coinmelon (refered to by mp as coinmuon bc of the sign at the doorbell). Then there's Latincoin, which is also there athe 'embassy' and also doesn't even exist and is only piching to 'investors' to get money with no product. Last time they were asking for $7
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 04:53 mircea_popescu: was this gabriel laddel then ?
mircea_popescu: sadwomen aka "empowered modern career woman" being the result of male withdrawal and neglect exactly in the same manner ourdemocracy is the result of smart people just checking out of reality altogether.
diana_coman: re "repair code" /me looks at planeshift...
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, in fairness, you're termiting it, ie, replacing by parts.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: planeshift is the open source game ; crystal space is the graphics engine aka 3d lib
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, 3d lib is cal3d ; there's a more general lib atop it (crystal space, cs). then there's yet another one on top of that. they follow the same 2000-2010-2019 "progression"
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: that's true, replacing it by parts indeed; not sure it's possible to do much any other way either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this is the problem, every generation has a small set of actual human beings, with functioning brains. and the current set's mostly fighting their tulpas.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the problem with the intervening centuries is that the barrier to achievement rose. what newton could usefully do could be accomplished in weeklong stretches ; which is how he did manage, 5-6 weeks / year, to produce something.
mircea_popescu: what gabriel ladel or the rest could accomplish requires 6-18 month stretches. they do not get those.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing for habitual drunk to be sober six days ; it's quite another for him to manage forty weeks.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-18 12:32 brendafdez: ;;later tell mircea_popescu You're squatting the channel ;)
http://pastebin.com/YNqdarX7 I could be running some shady business there instead...
mircea_popescu: * *** Notice -- TS for #bitcoin-argentina changed from 1559482823 to 1405209446
mircea_popescu: 1785 days since chanserv saw anyone there. this'd be... EXACTLY the interval.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the only way out is the "dude, i know you're too fucking stupid to understand WHY you have to obey, but obey nevertheless". which, sadly, is indistinguishable from their pov from the common socialist state.
mircea_popescu: and if 80 of the 100 or so ever alive at one point are lost to that delusion, things like the monkey empire can exist.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 02:41 alice_: i'm alice. i haven't interacted with this channel before. but i don't imagine that's the answer you're hoping for
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 13:37 asciilifeform: speaking of which, 'Smart drugs, so long as they're not Benzedrine and don't you dare mention that Paul Erdős lived to 83, that Norbert Wiener pioneered cybernetics, that the mother of all demos was done by an LSD aficionado...'
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 13:48 asciilifeform: pretty good illustration, btw, of them corners.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 13:59 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-02#1916805 << btw , speaking of wiener, asciilifeform has an unfinished mega-piece on subj sitting on hdd for years nao. ( summary -- wiener's 'cybernetics' has ~0 to do with computation of whatever kind, and is exactly the 1950s equiv. of today's 'bayesianisms' etc. and when the crackpottery was , correctly, laughed at in su, actual computers were being built;
mircea_popescu: and in ongoing other-half lulzsaga : ubuntu installer dies, drops to busybox ash because initramfs can't find a live filesystem
mircea_popescu: good thing #ubuntu has >1k users tho. it'd get boring if the same exact names logged on and off all the time.
mircea_popescu: ie "Behaviours such as sending messages with sexual content to a student or proferring macho comments in class go unpunished in the public universities [of Costa Rica] because of the weakness of administrative sanctions imposed by the rules on sexual aggression" ; "Huawei Costa Rica calls for calm and assures all its products can be used without concern. They assure the smartphones and tables already sold and those to be s
mircea_popescu: old, can be used as well as always" ; "Since thursday the visa rules for ticos were changed by Donald Trump so as to require the social media platforms they use (without password)".
mircea_popescu: remarkable just how useless computers are these days. so first, i chugged in 2gb of ubuntu. the moment it came up it wanted to get a further 450mb of "updates". then it turns out ~every game out there has pretty much outsourced its distribution (and, i suspect, debugging, such as it is) to steam (with a minor gog presence as well). so you gotta install steam. that's only 50mb or so, but a third layer by now.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and then of course the moment you actually try to install a game, steam needs at least 2-300mb of further updates.
mircea_popescu: but at least this deeply foss process is asking me for my password every 5 minutes, so how bad can it be.
mircea_popescu: if my net didn't churn 1 gb / minute i dunno wtf i'd be doing here. or rather... i do know.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the Spanish language qntra was set up and proceeded to receive nothing from the very enthusiastic F-dez
BingoBoingo: The very concerned about the poor Frente Amplista wants 300 USD a head to speak for her own campaign.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: At the same time the Blancos and other opposition parties are doing the thing where they take street corners and don't sell tickets
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The base price for 1 year of hosting is 1700.40 USD (12 months * 141.70 USD)
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 18:39 ben_vulpes: i can give you a pretty steep discount for paying the year up front, but because i'm building out the downline i want to keep the box on the balance sheet. how about a 20% markup on the machine if you pay for the whole year?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-25 02:29 mod6: mircea_popescu, diana_coman : Ben and I worked out a prorated amount for UY3 for the month of July. It comes to a total of 19 days, which will amount to: 0.03542985
BingoBoingo: In order to break the present state of sin and approach
the proposed, more reasonable figure, going forward my inclination is to have box rental priced to recover 90% of their book cost over the first year's rents and in following years track 50% per annum as a longevity discount.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 02:52 mircea_popescu: suppose you folk re-invoice me for something more like .4 ?
BingoBoingo: In this case since we have identical boxes and divergent prices on the book of 0.23423972 and 0.4 without a USD base price recorded in the statements, I am inclined to take the lower price and round it up to 0.235 to resolve the discrepancy and continue with the pricing exercise.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: 1700.40 USD @ 5319 USD/BTC = 0.319684151 BTC + 0.1175 BTC (0.235/2) = 0.437184151 BTC for a year of hosting on each box. This would carry the production server to April 18th 2020 and the test server would carry it to June 1st 2020. The two invoices would total 0.874368302 BTC, and the next invoicing on the boxes would be staggered one month apart.
BingoBoingo: In the interest of simplifying things and because you are Mircea Popescu, I am inclined to kick the total down to 0.85 split it over two invoices of 0.425 for each of the two machines and have them both run through June 1st 2020 offering a small percentage discount and roughly a month and a half of time on the production box free.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Let me know what you think of this proposal.
BingoBoingo: Feedback and suggested changes are very welcome
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and mod6 are invited to review as well