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pete_dushenski: http://www.initc3.org/publications.html << your public dollars at work.
assbot: Publications - IC3: Initiative for CryptoCurrencies and Contracts ... ( http://bit.ly/1F8Lo9p )
pete_dushenski: with hot new titles such as "Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions."
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this one's not entirely rotten. see logs.
asciilifeform: (not the specific paper, aha, but the concept)
asciilifeform: !s nonoutsourceable
assbot: 0 results for 'nonoutsourceable' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nonoutsourceable
asciilifeform: !s non-outsourceable
assbot: 4 results for 'non-outsourceable' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=non-outsourceable
asciilifeform: ^
pete_dushenski: oh hey, nifty
pete_dushenski: but i still need something to mock !
asciilifeform: as for why this general thing, see mr mold: 'The CS-research bureaucrat's main difficulty is that no one wants to fund bureaucrats. Therefore, he must pretend to be either a creative programmer or a mathematician, preferably both. Since this task is critical to his survival, he is extremely good at it. The bureaucrat has many strategies. But probably his best is to take an area of creative programming and devour it like a locu
asciilifeform: st, by turning it into a form of mathematics. Math outcompetes creative programming in the funding process, simply because it appears to be more rigorous. It is more rigorous, and it generates a longer, deeper river of more impressive publications. And, because its area is nominally applied, it doesn't have to compete with the real mathematicians over in "algorithms," who would clean the bureaucrats' clocks in five minutes.'
pete_dushenski: "The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." << should do the trick :)
asciilifeform: (from the mega-classic http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html ) ☟︎
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: What's wrong with CS research ... ( http://bit.ly/1F8LwFV )
asciilifeform: '... Whatever their tactics, what CS bureaucrats always sacrifice is relevance. Of course everyone has a conscience, and everyone would like to be actually relevant. But, especially when the only people checking up are your own godfathers in the funding agencies, it's much easier to pretend to be relevant. Actual relevance is extremely difficult to achieve, and hardly rewarding at all. In fact it's embarrassing, because everyo
asciilifeform: ne who isn't relevant and knows it has an automatic grudge against you. Since CS research is quite competitive, evolution has its way, and relevance goes the way of the snake's legs.'
asciilifeform recommends whole thing
pete_dushenski: "Finally, we note that a node can send unsolicited ADDR
pete_dushenski: messages in two cases: first, upon receiving an incoming
pete_dushenski: connection from n, a node x sends an ADDR message, to a
pete_dushenski: randomly chosen peer, containing only x with the times-
pete_dushenski: tamp set to the current local time. Nodes keep state about
pete_dushenski: which addresses their neighbors know of (because they
pete_dushenski: receivedl sent information about these nodes from/to their
pete_dushenski: neighbor). When nodes receive a ADDR messages with
pete_dushenski: fewer than 10 entries, either as the result of a GETADDR
pete_dushenski: response or a new connection, they choose two peers at
pete_dushenski: random and relay the same ADDR information (without
pete_dushenski: updating any timestamps), as long as the node believes
pete_dushenski: the neighbors don’t already have this address. Nodes
pete_dushenski: purge all information about what addresses their neigh-
pete_dushenski: bors know every twenty-four hours. Thus when a node
pete_dushenski: with a hitherto unknown address joins the network, the
pete_dushenski: relay messages containing the node’s IP address eventu-
pete_dushenski: ally flood the entire network. Whenever an existing node
pete_dushenski: x makes a new connection, its address propagates in the
pete_dushenski: network; how far depends on how many nodes already
pete_dushenski: knew about x. Finally, a node will update addrMan upon
pete_dushenski: receiving an ADDR message with a newer timestamp for
pete_dushenski: an address. The two-hour aging penalty is applied to the
pete_dushenski: new timestamp learned."
pete_dushenski: eff...
pete_dushenski: apologies. source : http://cs.umd.edu/projects/coinscope/coinscope.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1V2eER0 )
pete_dushenski: de-pdf : http://dpaste.com/2VEJQRR.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1V2eER6 )
cazalla: l2dpaste
asciilifeform: didja key that in on a telegraph or what
pete_dushenski: :)
pete_dushenski: copypasta from that txt there
pete_dushenski: for a node network n00b, i found the aforejizzed quote quite interesting ☟︎
punkman: that was patched in newer phoundation versions, should still work for realbtc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62700 @ 0.0007425 = 46.5548 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski off to dinner. laters !
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45607 @ 0.0007429 = 33.8814 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87079 @ 0.00074632 = 64.9888 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115947 @ 0.00075379 = 87.3997 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: ;;seen artifexd
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 58 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
punkman: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/chris-the-overgrown-australian-sheep-breaks-unofficial-world-record-following-shearing-10483977.html
assbot: Lost sheep with overgrown coat found and shaved, yields enough wool to make 30 sweaters - Australasia - World - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHoesJ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82936 @ 0.00073519 = 60.9737 BTC [-]
punkman: for chrome users: http://a/%%30%30
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86050 @ 0.00075553 = 65.0134 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPSzb53U8AEd4rD.png "I'm not "phobic" of all of Islam, just the several hundred million Muslims who think "suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified.""
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHqJLI )
punkman: gotta wonder how "justified" translates to all those languages
punkman: or "I wonder what a survey of Jews and Christians would show re: justification of drone bombings."
mircea_popescu: i think suicide bombing not only can be but actually is perfectly justified. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what are you gonna do, pleabargain ?
punkman: aha
mircea_popescu: a dysfunctional legal system makes suicide bombing a necessity. you don't like that, fix the fucking legal system.
punkman: there is the question of who you suicidebomb though
mircea_popescu: no there isn't. that's the thing with suicide bombing : no more questions.
mircea_popescu: you like questions and shit, fix the fucking legal system.
mircea_popescu: that's the place for questions.
mircea_popescu: wait, old holland's banned in the us ?! ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25904 @ 0.00075683 = 19.6049 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPLih9lW8AA8Q7H.jpg:large
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHrlB6 )
punkman: for mp's castle ^
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i thought alf was the anal afficcionado
punkman: https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5006/5296624387_c98a68ff69_b.jpg same in wintertime ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHrBjz )
punkman: it looked more like a cunt from that other angle
mircea_popescu: haha
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279902 << da fuck is that stupid shit ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 23:47:31; assbot: The Truth Behind AbbyBitcoin - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtsgPp )
mircea_popescu: "In fact it's embarrassing, because everyone who isn't relevant and knows it has an automatic grudge against you." <<< so ? the flailing is amusing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280000 << win ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 01:59:36; punkman: https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5006/5296624387_c98a68ff69_b.jpg same in wintertime
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wai wut
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 375276 | Current Difficulty: 5.933535123386657E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 376991 | Next Difficulty In: 1715 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37830 @ 0.00073476 = 27.796 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65970 @ 0.0007328 = 48.3428 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: http://qntra.net/2015/09/xiaoxing-xi-isnt-a-chinese-spy-after-all/ << https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10207388
assbot: Xiaoxing Xi isn't a Chinese spy after all | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHsLLJ )
assbot: I used to work in the same research field as Xi. A very nice guy, did some very ... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHsNn4 )
asciilifeform: l0l, ulbricht
asciilifeform: 'the history you didn't know' (tm)
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-09-2015#1277938 << illustrated https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bryg_k0CYAAIfsY.jpg:large ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 18:45:27; ascii_field: the canonical 'two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUINut )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87533 @ 0.00073809 = 64.6072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00074366 = 24.8382 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha fucktarded gestapo is iliterate so xi ended up with a giant step forward sorta deal ?
mircea_popescu: dude, this is so cool, getting to see the 50s first hand from atop a mountain of prime veal and home made black forest ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77550 @ 0.00075306 = 58.3998 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: i couldn't have it better if i planned it.
asciilifeform: hey it sure beats seeing them from inside !
mircea_popescu: mhm.
asciilifeform: (inside the firebrick, with the gas on, where else)
mircea_popescu toasts for this.
asciilifeform: 'I saw a huge steam roller, / It blotted out the sun. / The people all lay down, lay down; / They did not try to run. / ... ...' - k. vonnegut
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00075727 = 14.3881 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: fuck 'em.
mircea_popescu: !rated slush
assbot: You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit.
mircea_popescu: !unrate slush
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/af7e9ebcf40eb27e
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.slush:c6ff2578e04e5100530f440a0ddf17701e43e87010b7eee8128b2c43deaf5233
assbot: Successfully unrated slush
mircea_popescu: sad that in 2015 you still gotta teach old hands sense with the hot poker.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: comment on the relative merits of -10 vs 'unrate'
mircea_popescu: hm ?
asciilifeform: as in, what is the logic above
asciilifeform: (when does it make sense to unrate a fuckwit, vs keep -10)
asciilifeform: as i understood, a negrate is a kind of radioactive tomb, a warning to others
mircea_popescu: well, they stopped with the "bip 101" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the guy's toxic, just, acts the imbecile on occasion.
asciilifeform: but is he cured in any sense, or just removed from the opportunity to commit atrocities at the given moment ?
mircea_popescu: eh. tell you what, 4 years ago, when most of the current "experts" didn't know how to spell the name, the guy was hit by the first targetted attack, alongside some others.
mircea_popescu: guy at linode ran off with ~5k bitcoin or so. never prosecuted, slush covered out of pocket.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, being the reason why nobody uses linode to this day.
asciilifeform: but do we know whether this was the lion's share of his pocket, or just pocket lint ?
mircea_popescu: eh, at the time we're discussing nobody in bitcoin had enough money for a spare sandwich.
mircea_popescu: top tier ~= enthusiasts with a spare basement.
asciilifeform: but isn't this because a sandwich cost 100,000 btc at the time?
mircea_popescu: at the time bitcoin was ~4 usd.
asciilifeform: ah hm.
mircea_popescu: so if memory serves he lost like 3.x k worth 10-20k or so.
mircea_popescu: whichy, as he said then and i believed then, set him back a few months of dayjob.
asciilifeform given that we had the thread re: 'market depths' today, cannot help but wonder whether a fella with, e.g., 10,000 btc in those times did ~not~ actually see himself as in possession of 40,000 usd
mircea_popescu: there's a difference, a major difference at work here.
asciilifeform: possibly this sounds batshit, but it could explain why the 'early adopt' folks were so eager to part with their coin in return for a song and a promise
mircea_popescu: stuff like ripple or ether is in the 0.05 range because NOBODY WISHES TO BUY.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is in that range because nobody wishes to sell.
mircea_popescu: huge fucking difference.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has a history coming up from 1 cent.
mircea_popescu: these shits, do not.
asciilifeform: but whenever someone seems willing to mass-sell, it tanks ?
mircea_popescu: notrly.
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that treating price as a scalar is loony
asciilifeform: it isn't a scalar.
mircea_popescu: whenever "someone" aims to engineer faux sell pressure, "someone" gets raped.
asciilifeform: more of a tensor.
mircea_popescu: no price was ever a scalar.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99000 @ 0.00073809 = 73.0709 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: then again, no velocity was ever a scalar either, doesn't prevent cars from displaying odometers.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94850 @ 0.00073556 = 69.7679 BTC [-] {5}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 12.31075552 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b17
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: curious if this means a further 60 btc on no, now.
mircea_popescu: very instructive comparison, https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/ vs https://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/ ☟︎
assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.11 B (97%) on Yes, 2.91 B (3%) on No | closing in 9 months 2 weeks | weight: 91`180 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq )
assbot: BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 22.83 B (29%) on Yes, 55.6 B (71%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 94`816 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1iDIjEg )
mircea_popescu: same time frame, same substantial dispute (altcoin pretending importance). the gavin/hearn idiots have trouble going past 3:100 against them ; ethereum is so far 3:1 or some shit.
mircea_popescu: "according to bitbet, ethereum has two degrees of magnitude better odds at surviving 2015 than gavin's scamcoin."
mircea_popescu: "a total of ~200 bitcoins were locked up for ~3 months to provide this determination"
mircea_popescu: and wait - not even same timeframe o.O
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 233950 @ 0.00073183 = 171.2116 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21207 @ 0.00073102 = 15.5027 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61193 @ 0.00073097 = 44.7302 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: actually the topic of how to compare these two props is kinda interesting.
asciilifeform: unrelated but spiffy, http://www.adapower.com/index.php?Command=classes&Title=Source+Treasury
asciilifeform: (sorta like the old 'swag' for pascal !)
mircea_popescu: how goes TomServo
TomServo: Good! Relieved to know I'm still a person after having to refer to a backup.
asciilifeform: TomServo: bullet whistled by, took off your hat ?
mircea_popescu: >D
TomServo: Almost as dramatic.
mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'll be something like the film 'memento'
mircea_popescu: mebbe so
asciilifeform: i can picture it.
mircea_popescu: maybe like "beautiful mind" only with better conflict.
TomServo: All this ETH talk, I felt I should mention the waterfall had run dry: http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QqQJcI )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00074635 = 36.5712 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: TomServo: for all we know, it just split into parcels
mircea_popescu: aww.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you wedged at 367850 ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170750 @ 0.00073226 = 125.0334 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i just managed to reproduce the wedge AGAIN
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nein
asciilifeform: 375290 and running
mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=0000000000000000094d, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=00000000000000000c64, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: ProcessBlock: BASTARD BLOCK, prev=0000000000000000094d, DISCARDED
mircea_popescu: etc, the works.
mircea_popescu: just like back in the day.
asciilifeform: how long have you sat there ?
asciilifeform realized that this question is auto-answerable
mircea_popescu: this install ? about 3 days
asciilifeform: hm does gribble have a block-->epochaltime function ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who are you pulling from ?
mircea_popescu: the net.
asciilifeform: ahahahahaha
asciilifeform: yes, nominally the thing is a p2p gadget, this oughta work, no? but in reality, yer cooking with gutter oil
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: any blackholing observed ?
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: this thing is ever more friable, year after year.
mircea_popescu: but you realise, i am doing this deliberately.
asciilifeform: naturally
asciilifeform: how else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most dire flaw, per my current understanding, is that the thing is loathe to discard a peer ☟︎
asciilifeform: and when it does, ends up selecting a new peer more or less wildly
asciilifeform: (and so simply ends up wasting time spent on reconnecting)
mircea_popescu: at least part of the shitgnome objective ("make it impossible for random derp to run full node") will succeed within less than a year, if not actually successful enough already.
mircea_popescu: we utterly need those pogos deployed already.
mircea_popescu: dicking around with it long enough.
asciilifeform: realize that nobody but us (and the quasi-mythical 'smart miners') are running full nodes now.
mircea_popescu: i do.
asciilifeform: (phoundation's header-first-sync thing is not a node...!)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.0007319 = 24.4089 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: rewinding to, ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-08-2015#1234821 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 13:36:02; asciilifeform: shinohai: see, i'd post a full recipe and signed binaries today, but we don't quite yet have a pogo-capable - that is, non-ramguzzling - bitcoind
asciilifeform: pogo is pending on two undone things:
asciilifeform: 1) hard-limited, value-weighted tx mempool
asciilifeform: 2) http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/rss_d1746f76523316edcdc82326213f8953bf6f0d09.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iFMShs )
asciilifeform: ('2' shows the behaviour of a deterministically-syncing (from disk: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html -- (!!!) node. the block index grows linearly, ~300 byte per block.) this is entirely undigestible on a pogo.
assbot: [BTC-dev] Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmuPH )
asciilifeform: we can't have the thing occupying the entirety of ram.
asciilifeform: (and then some)
asciilifeform: i put an obscene and prolly unjustifiable amount of sweat into narrowing down the causes of the misery to 1 and 2.
asciilifeform: at one time there was a '3' - glibc-free, static, rom-burnable bitcoind. but we have it now.
asciilifeform: for all the good it did, re: pogo...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39850 @ 0.00073184 = 29.1638 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: btw there are misleading figures circulating re: 'size of the mempool today is 5MB' etc.
asciilifeform: useless, garbage number, anyone who claims to have a calculated value for it is lying or utterly illiterate
punkman: asciilifeform: why the sharp dropoff in that picture?
asciilifeform: punkman: it appears to come from liberated ram no longer needed for disk cache
asciilifeform: punkman: later i created a mechanism to measure only consumption from within the process proper, but i did not have time to turn this into a plot.
asciilifeform: punkman: what i ended up doing was manually combing the code for 'what gets eaten but never shat', and found the block index to be the obvious culprit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87700 @ 0.00073624 = 64.5682 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: i must also remind people that, sadly, these days i do not have anything close to the amount of time and energy needed to properly nail this thing.
asciilifeform: unless i somehow stumble across buried treasure, etc., it will have to be nailed by someone who is not me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52600 @ 0.0007396 = 38.903 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: perhaps mircea_popescu ought to get busy teaching his pets cpp
asciilifeform: (either that, or tell me where the buries treazurez are!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can actually unwedge it. i am satisfied the problem here is a subtle memory issue (not directly related to the bdb locks thing). specifically, to verify block 367851 bitcoind needs a certain amount of CONTIGUOUS memory. but it doesn't know this.
asciilifeform: this is called fragging.
mircea_popescu: the kernel thinks it has memory, the program thinks it was allocated memory, the verification fails and the process cycles indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: if someone new to low level stuff is eager to do some useful spec work, feel free to examine this issue.
mircea_popescu: im pretty certain 367851 is the best block to do it on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i am curious as to the logic of this inference.
asciilifeform: tx-en are verified serially.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> btw there are misleading figures circulating re: 'size of the mempool today is 5MB' etc. << word. not a scalar.
asciilifeform: the scratch space used for the verification is allocated on the stack ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's a complex set of required blocks of allocable memory, and the hope that kernel allocates them correctly.
asciilifeform: and freed after each script ver.
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps chief reason we must have bitcoinos. general purpose memory allocation (ie, not bitcoin optimized) is garbage.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no logic, just induction.
mircea_popescu: that's why i say someone who has the tools to reason deductively should look at it.
asciilifeform: let's actually do this one
mircea_popescu: the instrumentation you need is userspace with specifiable available memory profile.
mircea_popescu: (ie, this many blocks of this size each)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think while the txn are verified serially maybe the memory for entire block is allocated somewhere ; haven't actually had someone dig into the code for this angle./
asciilifeform: it is.
asciilifeform: i have the thing on screen as we speak.
mircea_popescu: this is potentially even leverageable
mircea_popescu: it MIGHT do something dirty silently in that loop
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> utterly illiterate << kids today are used to adding things together. "how many pears do you get adding six ducks to eight nails ?" "14!!!"
asciilifeform: they will program in ada, in hell
mircea_popescu: like they programmed nipples in life aha.
asciilifeform: this is btw a beautiful pun, often exploited, in ru: язык ада == 'the language of hell'
mircea_popescu: hahaha
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 'lxr' is 1001 times more useful than doxygen. can haz both plz ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: doxygen is RETARDED, it takes actual sweat to so much as link to a specific line of src
asciilifeform: and the file browser, always visible, is mega-annoying
asciilifeform: the thing is graphically spiffy but entirely worthless in practice.
asciilifeform: other than for the flow graphs.
asciilifeform: hence i am stuck using jurov's original. here goes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:
mircea_popescu: http://www.businessinsider.com/mans-600000-facebook-ad-disaster-2014-2 unrelated lulz.
assbot: Man's $600,000 Facebook Ad Disaster - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1iFQv72 )
asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#0941 << we start verifying block
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1iFQxMh )
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/script.cpp#1188 << verifying a tx sig
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1iFQC2y )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bubble butts beckon. i shall return tomorrow!
asciilifeform: laterz.
mod6: asciilifeform: maybe jurov can add another lxr for v0.5.4 when release is official? i actually never use the doxygen one either.
asciilifeform: mod6: the lxr thing is indispensible
mod6: or whenever he gets time i suppose.
asciilifeform: i use it every time i look at the thing at all.
asciilifeform: but seeing rel1 in it gets old, fast.
mod6: me too, if i even use it at all. most of the time i just use an editor.
asciilifeform: i prolly ought to set the thing up on local disk
asciilifeform: editor doesn't give concordance
asciilifeform: (emacs will tell me where a string occurs, sure, but this is pointedly NOT what i want)
mod6: anyway, yeah, i agree. we'll have to get lxr setup for v0.5.4 for sure, and maybe at that time we just drop doxygen or just point at it for the call graphs.
asciilifeform: it doesn't hurt to have it. for the call graphs.
asciilifeform: esp. since nobody ever did the chore, yet, of making a usable wall-sized call graph like i asked for
asciilifeform: (yes, someone did half of it, a btc's worth, but the result is not yet something i can send off to the print house and get a wall poster) ☟︎
mod6: didnt some guy get paid for a graph, or was that a differnet thing?
mod6: ah.
asciilifeform: this very thing.
asciilifeform: he wrote some code which could, theoretically, be used to make this.
mod6: ok, i see.
mod6: also, fwiw my TEST2 node has block 375296
asciilifeform: 'Recently, however, Brar has fallen out of love with Facebook. He discovered — as Business Insider reported recently — that his Facebook fanbase was becoming polluted with thousands of fake likes from bogus accounts. He can no longer tell the difference between his real fans and the fake ones. Many appear fake because the users have so few friends, are based in developing countries, or have generic profile pictures.' << oh
asciilifeform: noez, he wanted genuine dead souls, not synthetic dead souls !!111111 ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: same
asciilifeform: mod6: my box is not wedged.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57575 @ 0.00073346 = 42.229 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: an anecdote but when i snoop the facebooks of the girls i wanted to bang in high school yet never did, their last posts are usually 2012-2013
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15325 @ 0.00073184 = 11.2154 BTC [-]
punkman: ;;ud finstagram
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Finstagram | Finstagram, finsta for short, is a mixture of Fake & Instagram. People, usually girls , get a second Instagram account along with their real instagrams, rinstagrams, ...
cazalla: what's a fkn rinstagram
cazalla: ;;ud rinstagram
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Finstagram | Finstagram, finsta for short, is a mixture of Fake & Instagram. People, usually girls , get a second Instagram account along with their real instagrams, rinstagrams, ...
punkman: the fake-name instagram/facebook/etc and the real-name instagram
cazalla: i still don't understand how or why tiny boxed photos with lense flare and filters is more popular than a proper photo.. could normal photos be just as social?
cazalla: perhaps the quality of the photo is meant to match the shitty subject manner
punkman: I suppose 640pixels was all anyone had on their phones when instagram started
punkman: low-res probably helps with the cellulite too
cazalla: somewhat of a paradox.. why buy new iphones each year with over 9000 mega pixels only to down sample..
cazalla: i've heard "i needed the better camera" quite a few times
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00075779 = 5.2666 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34458 @ 0.00075779 = 26.1119 BTC [+]
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279465 << the reply couldn't be more lulzy if you tried https://archive.is/qXAPE ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 11:17:04; punkman: "During our ongoing discussions with Symantec we determined that the issuance occurred during a Symantec-internal testing process." hah
assbot: A Tough Day as Leaders | Symantec Connect Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZEqL )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8295 @ 0.00075802 = 6.2878 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00075407 = 32.2742 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69200 @ 0.0007365 = 50.9658 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0007365 = 19.2963 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21655 @ 0.00073558 = 15.929 BTC [-]
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 15.22276832 BTC on 'No' - BTC to top $700 before November - http://bitbet.us/bet/1179/btc-to-top-700-before-november/#b32
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279862 << Banned as drug precursor ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 22:49:11; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279839 << i thought betel was banned in usa? or was that khat ?
BingoBoingo: Both of them
BingoBoingo: By the time I was buying TI-92 without the plus 29 including shipping
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94600 @ 0.00074703 = 70.669 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00074307 = 13.5239 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1279967 << Only AMAZING COMPANY ALA LABCOIN here is the retarded pace of UMD and friends. Like... The never jsut tried sending random messages at nodes to see what they do? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 00:29:16; pete_dushenski: for a node network n00b, i found the aforejizzed quote quite interesting
BingoBoingo: Actually the part where there is no way for the hub node to be configured such that "hey this -connect node is cool to peer only with me" is a problem
BingoBoingo: Although assume hostile is a useful default attitude I am not sure act hostile is a useful default
BingoBoingo: What coach doesn't ask a player to give it their all in the game? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1279985 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 01:50:44; mircea_popescu: i think suicide bombing not only can be but actually is perfectly justified.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1279993 << No, but Mr. Holland's Opus was the worst film ever ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 01:53:14; mircea_popescu: wait, old holland's banned in the us ?!
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280082 << Turns out BIP 101 is less of a thing than huffing ether. No Surprise. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 03:11:39; mircea_popescu: very instructive comparison, https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/ vs https://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280100 << Believe it of not this is actually the plot of "'Fallout": New Vegas' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 03:40:34; *: mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280134 << Have you considered -addnode for a bunch of suspected chicom peers. The ones I ended up committing to bitcoin.conf are lovely ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:09:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most dire flaw, per my current understanding, is that the thing is loathe to discard a peer
BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280180 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:34:28; asciilifeform: the scratch space used for the verification is allocated on the stack
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3742 @ 0.0007307 = 2.7343 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.0007307 = 12.2392 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275178 @ 0.00073094 = 201.1386 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65200 @ 0.00073784 = 48.1072 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66352 @ 0.00075135 = 49.8536 BTC [+] {2}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 6.35530000 BTC on 'No' - BTC to top $700 before November - http://bitbet.us/bet/1179/btc-to-top-700-before-november/#b33
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78900 @ 0.00073335 = 57.8613 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hhhhola
mircea_popescu: !
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280228 << bane of foss. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:56:57; asciilifeform: (yes, someone did half of it, a btc's worth, but the result is not yet something i can send off to the print house and get a wall poster)
mircea_popescu: no closure.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00073335 = 6.0868 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73600 @ 0.00073335 = 53.9746 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126263 @ 0.00073838 = 93.2301 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: Buenas dias, misfits.
mircea_popescu: bit-coin-expert.com
mircea_popescu: shouldn't it be Bit-coin ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280236 << i lolled at "recently' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 04:58:26; asciilifeform: noez, he wanted genuine dead souls, not synthetic dead souls !!111111
mircea_popescu: "A Tough Day as Leaders" wait wut, who's symantec the leaders of.
mircea_popescu: dude everyone in english is a leader. apparently leadees not required. they lead lead.
mircea_popescu: btw check out BingoBoingo and his rand paul bet. well done bb!
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 8.00000000 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b18
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280295 << just about 1 jiggabyte, yeah. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 09:36:21; BingoBoingo: On OpenBSD (non-pogoable) the latest BDB locks fix added ~800MB of memory allocation for bitcoind
mircea_popescu: and from the retard files : http://upstart.bizjournals.com/entrepreneurs/hot-shots/2015/03/11/is-record-112m-investment-enough-to-turn-bitcoins.html
assbot: Is $116M enough for security expert, Matt Pauker, to save bitcoin with 21 Inc.? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OnhmBN )
mircea_popescu: your pincers is in another castle!
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Mass amnesia in effect in/Bitcoin to downplay AbbyGate. No one remembers her...Who?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00073335 = 12.1003 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: buttcoin is upset that apparently nobody in bitcoin reads r/bitcoin or cares about reddit celebritits.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln71r/abbybitcoin_turns_out_to_not_be_a_fraud_afterall/ << turns out it's teenager lovedramas!
assbot: AbbyBitcoin Turns Out To Not Be A Fraud Afterall : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OnhEsl )
mircea_popescu: (spoiler : boy meets girl at insane asylum. neither is a visitor. she "is an artist". he "is writing a book", about DSM, of course, because what better qualifies one as an expert in the field than being insane.)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00072997 = 40.6593 BTC [-] {5}
shinohai: Such drama.
mircea_popescu: if anyone actually holds some eth and is willing to lend it out... i'm all ears.
mircea_popescu: looking for something up to 100k or so.
mircea_popescu: trinque btw, you actively working on that otc website equiv ?
shinohai: A #bitcoin-assets otc? >>>
mircea_popescu: yea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20964 @ 0.0007298 = 15.2995 BTC [-]
shinohai: That would be awesome if it was tied to btcalpha wot
mircea_popescu: well yes ?
mircea_popescu: how else.
shinohai: certainly not gribble
shinohai: heh ... "Hive wallet failing" Who wants another html5/js wallet?
mircea_popescu: http://www.techtip.org/
assbot: Techtip | Tech Guides | Software Reviews | Technology Tips ... ( http://bit.ly/1KolFZt )
mircea_popescu: "Techtip is a popular technology tips blog which aims to make your tech life easy by writing about software reviews, productivity and free web apps."
mircea_popescu: such startups.
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 11.95068863 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b19
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo You were right about sig campaigns - "$1 is important to me" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=425135.msg12468018#msg12468018
assbot: Up to 0.035 BTC weekly for YOUR SIGNATURE *New rules ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZIbPk )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37381 @ 0.00073501 = 27.4754 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21519 @ 0.00074374 = 16.0045 BTC [+]
shinohai: http://etherscan.io/stats/miner?range=1 <<< kek.
assbot: Ethereum Top Miner Stats | EtherScan ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLRW0p )
mircea_popescu: i thought it's not even mined.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: If you can make any sense of this I *guess* it explains it: https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/197/how-to-help-secure-the-ethereum-network-faq
assbot: How to help secure the Ethereum network FAQ - Ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLSXpo )
mircea_popescu: "At Frontier, the first release of Ethereum, you'll just need a) a GPU and b) an Ethereum client, Geth. CPU mining will be possible but too inefficient to hold any value.
mircea_popescu: Codename Frontier, the initial live release of Ethereum consist of Geth, the Command Line Interface written in Go, and nothing else. At the moment, Geth only includes a CPU miner, and the team is testing a GPU miner branch, but this won't be part of Frontier."
mircea_popescu: so... which is it ?
mircea_popescu: "The algorithm is memory hard, you'll need at least 1+GB of RAM on each GPU"
mircea_popescu: nigga... say wut ?!
mircea_popescu: GeForce GTX 750 has, iirc, 1gb.
mircea_popescu: for, iirc, 8 cores.
mircea_popescu: anywya, whatevs.
shinohai: Also ... "Do not proceed with this guide using a machine on which you do not feel comfortable losing data, or even hardware. You have been warned - this is EXPERIMENTAL."
shinohai: Kinda reads to me "We need schmucks to test our shit, but don't want to waste money on resources. So you guys do it for us, but don't come crying to us if it borks your pc"
mircea_popescu: eh da fuck you gonna do to a vid card that breaks it. ☟︎☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35950 @ 0.00073687 = 26.4905 BTC [-]
shinohai: ;;later tell danielpbarron Is your node down?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00073241 = 27.0992 BTC [-]
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280374 <<< mine w/ it? ;p ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 13:53:58; mircea_popescu: eh da fuck you gonna do to a vid card that breaks it.
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: i recall decades ago, larratt from bme claimed he'd written a program that'd fry 1st-gen sound blasters
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00073687 = 9.8741 BTC [+]
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/william-sears-mun-ranee-panjabi-hearing-accommodation-1.3235523
assbot: MUN prof tells very different story, hard-of-hearing student says - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pg64fW )
nubbins`: ^ unrelated
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90528 @ 0.00073259 = 66.3199 BTC [-] {4}
danielpbarron: shinohai, unfortunately yes, but I hope to get it back online sometime today
shinohai: thx, I just rebooted and will connect to the one mp posted yesterday.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 228576 @ 0.00072972 = 166.7965 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50800 @ 0.00072817 = 36.991 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: !up analmaster
analmaster: hello ladies
danielpbarron: ;;later tell nubbins` my thing is a 'DS' so unless you think that game will also work on it, I'll have to pass on your offer
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39950 @ 0.00073097 = 29.2023 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu: yep, I've been hacking on the buy/sell board this morning over coffee
trinque: should make some decent headway today
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1685 @ 0.00073686 = 1.2416 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25700 @ 0.00073749 = 18.9535 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00072867 = 15.3021 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96950 @ 0.00072827 = 70.6058 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66950 @ 0.00074017 = 49.5544 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2015#1280374 << recall how everything is 'oversold' in the cable modem sense ? where actually ~using~ all of what you paid for, will break it or use it up in record time? well, this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 13:53:58; mircea_popescu: eh da fuck you gonna do to a vid card that breaks it.
mircea_popescu: coolness.
asciilifeform has been recently carrying out a kind of survey of programming systems ~built for adults~. so far, nominees: common lisp, ada, standard ml. and that's ~it~
asciilifeform: rough and non-exhaustive summary of what 'for adults' means:
asciilifeform: 1) type safety 2) MULTIPLE independent implementations 3) at least two NATIVE compilers exist 4) written international standard, preferably published on dead tree
asciilifeform: under (1) i also include bounds checking and sane error handling
asciilifeform: that's pretty much it.
mircea_popescu: i was hoping for whips and cuffs
asciilifeform: under (3) i also include that native compiler must support unix threading
asciilifeform: (or it is not properly speaking 'native')
asciilifeform: whips and cuffs come with ada
asciilifeform: if your book didn't come with then, get yer money back
asciilifeform: *them
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: i'd include forth, but it has the 'safety' of a frag grenade.
asciilifeform: (a frag is not a useless thing, has its place where nothing else will do. but only there.)
asciilifeform: i recall there was a thread where mircea_popescu unzipped and pissed on standards, but they are pretty much the only way you get to have (2) and (3)
asciilifeform: !up analmaster
analmaster: yo
analmaster: did you do some mopping asciilifeform
analmaster: moping?
asciilifeform: analmaster: a bit. about to do moar.
asciilifeform: analmaster: and you, for some reason, are rowing the galley today ?
analmaster: https://i.imgflip.com/r8adj.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YrwcKK )
analmaster: well
analmaster: im trying to do some work for the mines
mircea_popescu: iirc the issue was nist, not "standards"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38350 @ 0.00073531 = 28.1991 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21926 @ 0.00074017 = 16.229 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41850 @ 0.00074116 = 31.0175 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: !up analmaster
punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/20/aws_database_outage/
assbot: AWS knocks Amazon, Netflix, Tinder and IMDb offline in MEGA data collapse • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1j0hbiL )
mircea_popescu: aww
shinohai: https://www.myblockchain.xyz/ (-__-)
assbot: myBlockchain is your private blockchain without the blocks or the chains. ... ( http://bit.ly/1j0iEWl )
shinohai: Looks kinda like, i dunno, mysql.
asciilifeform: tr0l0l0l
punkman: Are you ready for FinTech? Are you ready for exposing yourself to cutting edge technology without spending time to understand how it works? Are you ready for flashing fancy new business cards at congresses, luncheons and breakfast briefings, with pre- and postfixes like bit, crypto, chain, coin, satoshi or block?
shinohai: keks
asciilifeform: 'We know that millions of transactions per second can be scary to some, especially banks who still call their customers and require them to fax in documents. In myBlockchain, you can limit the rate of transactions per second by requiring verification by a shamefully underpaid human being in your "back office" in the third world, just like you are used to.' << mega-win
asciilifeform: 'Chances are that your bank already forked C++ because they didn't like its open nature, and you now have to pay millions every year to the one guy who knows where all the libraries are.' << ahahahaha this is a thing of beauty
asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2015/09/ulbricht-280-283.pdf << sr trial censored bits will stay censored.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FVBxhX )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43460 @ 0.00074226 = 32.2586 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_juice/2015/09/texas_electricity_goes_negative_wind_power_was_so_plentiful_one_night_that.html
assbot: Texas electricity goes negative: Wind power was so plentiful one night that producers paid the state to take it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1j0my1r )
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/WZ7CgFZ.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1j0qIGD )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.0007433 = 26.3872 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26147 @ 0.00074387 = 19.45 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54008 @ 0.00074167 = 40.0561 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00074116 = 16.1573 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58723 @ 0.00074116 = 43.5231 BTC [-]
shinohai: http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/16/news/egypt-billionaire-refugee-island/ <<< novel approach to the refugee crisis.
assbot: Egyptian billionaire: I found the island I want to buy for refugees - Sep. 16, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1j0BGfp )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28997 @ 0.00074388 = 21.5703 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00074142 = 12.3076 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00074334 = 6.1697 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71750 @ 0.00074333 = 53.3339 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57779 @ 0.00074307 = 42.9338 BTC [-]
trinque: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1SK6HJE.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QRxZDW )
mircea_popescu: soo teh golden goose sold for 15mn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126000 @ 0.00074333 = 93.6596 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44223 @ 0.00074133 = 32.7838 BTC [-] {3}
trinque: one more restart of teh deedbot- and I'm through fiddling with that part.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.0007439 = 23.0981 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66950 @ 0.00074416 = 49.8215 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00074116 = 24.1618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82642 @ 0.00074519 = 61.584 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8801 @ 0.00074617 = 6.567 BTC [+]
trinque: http://deedbot.org/deed-375387-3.txt << got the unicode snowman to deed
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KDOToP )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, which golden goose?
cazalla: assuming eulora related, seem to recall a trilema post related to some income generating item
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00074608 = 20.2188 BTC [-]
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0RFDCSF.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjoNlr )
deedbot-: imported: 881BD4068628D739CF7E5F35D258F57BC24B4DAD
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/00A978G.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JjoOWG )
adlai: ...
adlai: ...
adlai: ...
adlai: trinque: pls
trinque: maybe it's mad that there's both a key and a message in there
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3DRG914.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YsgWgF )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: oh, it's two messages
adlai: there's no pgp key block, it's quoted :P
trinque: there's a key at the top
adlai: tis a message.
adlai: pgp is just silly ☟︎
adlai: and calls a spade a rose
trinque: k then I don't support the format of that yet
trinque: can maybe fiddle with it in a minute and get it to go through
adlai races trinque
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3H6RR87.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YshvHy )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
trinque: oh, that's what I thought, that it was missing the outermost message header
adlai would've had the foggiest notion of how to interact with the damn thing if its source were published
trinque: adlai: publishing src runs contrary to forcing people to join this WoT to use it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35722 @ 0.00074608 = 26.6515 BTC [-]
trinque: aside that there's nothing that special going on here.
adlai: !rate trinque -1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-08-2015#1227768 waiting for OP to deliver ☝︎
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/795fb07ddbaaa665
assbot: Logged on 06-08-2015 16:01:42; trinque: but anyway, if you'd like a copy, I could give you one
trinque: eats pubkeys or clearsigned messages, farts bundles and transactions to the address derived from the sha256 of bundle as pubkey
adlai: (isn't this how you accomplish things in the Brave New Economy?)
trinque: decent method of signaling butthurt anyway
adlai: no, that would be !v
mats: i suggest a car blog
adlai: lol @ 'forcing'
trinque: er that's sha256 of bundle as the private key
trinque: adlai: I'm sure you could write this thing in a day
trinque: tenyks was used as the basis, though I've grown to dislike it and will eventually replace
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.deedbot-.2:15fd2fd84ba1e5781dca82a9681f662a00e604f874e27def5cb0d6298d50bdd6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for deedbot- from 1 to 2 with note: works as described, not as desired
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.trinque.-1:23937d53d0bdb484ce05a81b6eaea7e9917101262b19b8724c0f46d15aa854b8
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 1 to -1 with note: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-08-2015#1227768 STILL waiting for OP to deliver
adlai: !down adlai
ben_vulpes: cute
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai open source in tmsr~ means a person can ask another person for a copy of the source, and might actually get it
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: OP thought over it in the meanwhile and decided to keep it to himself
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.unrate.adlai:de74de9bcd8587e57dff154e4b5b5278c5071cb1a77885a107173d1025b16f59
assbot: Successfully unrated adlai
ben_vulpes: wai u all gotta be so dramatique