shinohai: ^ would love to purchase for the sole purpose of making court-ordered payments
punkman: dunno, I worry more about someone refreshing his keyring and ending up with extra subkeys under my main key, than a second main key appearing with same fingerprint, so I'm definitely setting my cert-digest-algo to sha512
punkman: unfortunately it seems hard to refresh current key using new cert-digest-algo
nubbins`: shinohai surely your country has a law limiting how much change can be used to settle a transaction?!
punkman: anyway, good thing I distributed my key before the shappening ;)
punkman: btw, has anyone signed a collection of assbot wot keys?
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mircea_popescu: you want a washbasin to shit in, plug the bidet and go at it.
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phf: i thought the matter of subkeys, "automatic" key replacements or substituions was settled by hanbot's story. i really put too much faith in it as the b-a canon seems like
mircea_popescu: unlike any decent cult, b-a does not actually have a cannon.
mircea_popescu: just a large-ish body of accepted knowledge which merely appears accepted "by everyone" in the sense that nobody agrees with all of it but nobody has seriously attacked all of it.
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mircea_popescu: the side point being that agreement is neither required nor actually the criteria.
mircea_popescu: actually universal agreement being strictly detrimental is a standing rule.
BingoBoingo: If there was a single cannon the idiots could take it
mircea_popescu: and in other news these monte cristos are fucking exquisite.
mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving." How can you work
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: in media and not understand media? The fact that feminism is in the mainstream means that it doesn't exist, it is no longer real, in the same way that when you hear "gun control debate" it's a lie and "fiscal cliff" is an easy to market, safe distraction from the structural problems that can never be named, here's one: for any heterogeneous population, the expansion of a "welfare class" is logically inseparable from t
mircea_popescu: he entrenchment of an aristocracy, can't have one without the other once you get bigger than 20M, ask Bismarck. "Does he write for Time?" No. But keep this in mind every time you hear how great it is Bill Gates is curing malaria after leaving us all with Windows."
mircea_popescu: he happens to be exactly right, too. welfare class strictly means entrenching aristocracy, it isn't even a thing on and of itself. just a sympthom of that phenomena.
mircea_popescu: and entrenching aristocracy means sclerosis and stuff like that, but let's not get too serious.
phf: how does assbot handle key expirations? does it periodically download new key from sks or it downloads it if you try and use an expired key?
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:07:53; *: mircea_popescu never uses the innundated toilet model. it's fucking stupid.
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assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:08:02; mircea_popescu: you want a washbasin to shit in, plug the bidet and go at it.
assbot: Logged on 24-04-2014 00:33:21; asciilifeform: me grandpa (physicist) first encountered a bidet in vienna
mircea_popescu: phf afaik it never downloads it. if your key expires you're fucked.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:34:57; mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving."
mircea_popescu: i don't think you're enough of a pedophile to give a shit about what teenaged women do anyway.
mircea_popescu: the same thing you gain from trying to figure anything else out.
mircea_popescu: here's a pro tip : everyone investigating matters out of paradigm decide, with clockwork regularity, that their attempt was a mistake.
mircea_popescu: "oh i tried to look into this whole darwinian stuff. mmmkay..."
mircea_popescu: the thing with science is that there's no science outside of what science you make. there's no wave function in the actual fucking fermion.
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mircea_popescu: how about anal sex. what % of his mates did he bugger ?
mircea_popescu: note that you're no more required to be a plumber than i'm required to give a shit about lisp. you get to pick your own spot where your vita brevis makes no difference anyway.
mircea_popescu: to some people, the notion that men aged > 50 today as well as their antecessors didn't do x y z thing automatically disqualifies them, as men. to some other, it's just ridoinculous bs.
mircea_popescu: but some common ground can be found. "your wife won't do what you tell her to ? what does the possessive denote then ?" for instance. "oh but it hurts. and she finds it disgusting". yeah. that's the fucking point. of course she'll obey an order to eat more chocolate.
mircea_popescu: "no but really, it's more about partnership". i'm sure it is. and it gets tested never. "no, like, once someone gets cancer". tyvm, i prefer to create my own problems.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think that's the case. there's some magic happening, because there are no provissions to do a key refresh yet my formerly expired key still works.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but they are dubious scientists. if euclid walked over here and got into an argument with me over fucking bannach space algebra, pete_dushenski would prolly be right in his wing with a !rate euclid -1 gramps has nfi where his rope ends.
mircea_popescu: phf i doubt assbot actually updates them. it might also not look at expirations, i dunno how kakobrekla did it, maybe he weighs in.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: or in other words, the only reason you think they're still men is because their key expired and you don't have to refresh anything.
phf: yeah, yours is going to go on dec 22
mircea_popescu: dude i have no idea, the long dead are a 4th fucking gender.
mircea_popescu has serious trouble evaluating the gender of people who lived in socio-cultural constructs that share little with his own in any sort of term that's meaningful for common parlance.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the context of your father shares a lot with your own.
mircea_popescu: grandfather is only present in the father (and his antecessors) chain.
mircea_popescu: that's how that thing got added in there, outside of that line it's dead.
mircea_popescu: you are familiar with the basics of human sexuate reproduction i expect ?
mircea_popescu: that's your inedible point of contact : the same agent that cooed and went heels over head through the use of the same mechanism then taught you how to usew that mechanism.
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mircea_popescu: but some obscure thing about what is interesting or not.
mircea_popescu: and i meant indelible not inedible. i blame the keyboard.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:34:57; mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving."
mircea_popescu: well... they're colored. you ever seen my pic with the sea slugs ?
mircea_popescu: because if it weren't... think for just a minute how horrible life were if in point of fact we were imortal.
mircea_popescu: it'd then be the case that sooner or larter we;'d have to do everything. EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu is well gratefull to be dead long before he'd reach the end of anything.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's the cultural antrhopologist standing story an' im sticking by it : speech is interesting because it provides permanence in a very improbable setting.
mircea_popescu: so improbable in fact it even enticed you into playing your qj straight into my pocket rockets.
mircea_popescu: cockroaches are pretty interesting as far as that goes. for instance : did you know that the entire fucking genus, which is immnse, strictly depends on there not being abrasive surfaces ?
mircea_popescu: thjat's why borax gets them. it scratches their carpace, they lose water.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: i doubt it's actually possible for a proper dead end, in nature.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:15:13; mircea_popescu: thjat's why borax gets them. it scratches their carpace, they lose water.
mircea_popescu: "I met the woman at a Broadway show, but the night's best piece of acting, I'd say, came from me, back at her East Village apartment, after we'd been having sex for about 25 minutes, with Neil Young wailing the song "Comes a Time" from the laptop on her bedside table. The dried-out condom had a full-bodied choke hold on me, but I'd already stopped twice to put on a fresh one, and I knew, as I kept earnestly pumping awa
mircea_popescu: y, that one more condom wouldn't make the necessary difference."
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mircea_popescu: i have never, ever, in my fucking life been in a situation where pumping dried out the woman. how the fuck does this work even ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i've seen the thing where after a bout of sustained fucking her cunt would leak of its own volition for another fucking hour, yes. but what is this sandy bitch bs.
phf: a common acquaintance once said that she sometimes flips through tv channels while having sex with her boyfriend
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mircea_popescu: "I have a surprising piece of advice for parents, which I hope will be taken in the spirit it is offered: your kid doesn't want to be around you that much. No one does. This isn't because you're a bad person but because you're an ordinary person. You are not such a unique, creative, intelligent or even interesting person that the kid benefits from constant exposure to you. When you have something to offer, maximize
mircea_popescu: and concentrate that time, and then get the hell out of the way."
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punkman: BingoBoingo: If there was a single cannon the idiots could take it << no no the cannon takes the idiots, unless I'm out of powder
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:47:10; mircea_popescu: i have never, ever, in my fucking life been in a situation where pumping dried out the woman. how the fuck does this work even ?
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binaryatrocity: I am binaryatrocity, lover of crypto, and lurker of many channels.
binaryatrocity: I... have a personal site, that may look like a blog. But it is lacking in any blog-like content.
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assbot: Brandon Cornejo (binaryatrocity) | Keybase
binaryatrocity: hmm, signature verification with gribble is ever-failing
binaryatrocity: yes but I cannot yet voice myself, and the "requirements to be in Assbots WoT can be found <here>" link goes to the homepage
binaryatrocity: which links to a waybackmachine of cascadianhacker.com, which references gribble auth
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for binaryatrocity with note: new blood
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thestringpuller: for people with anxiety disorders: what works for you other than drugz?
☟︎ jurov: kakobrekla: yes pls
mircea_popescu: for young males with anxiety "disorders" the only workable solution is to get into a lot of fights.
mircea_popescu: with any luck you'll be cured before you lose your 2nd tooth.
mircea_popescu: the ancient theory on consumptive masturbation was that monsters are a figment of the imagination, and so the practical cure was to expose the young man to ACTUAL, ie, anatomically accurate depictions of the other gender. what today we'd call porn.
mircea_popescu: all neurosis works the same way, the subject replaces the thing as is with a construct in his own head.
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kakobrekla: >A crowdfunding campaign for a razor blade which its US creators claimed could remove facial hair with a laser beam has been suspended by Kickstarter.
kakobrekla: >It has now been relisted on Indiegogo.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:56:15; mircea_popescu: phf i doubt assbot actually updates them. it might also not look at expirations, i dunno how kakobrekla did it, maybe he weighs in.
mircea_popescu: imo the right play would be to stop refreshing and move to a "provide your pubkey in pastebin" model. prhaps even to be enhanced to a "ask someone in wot to sign your pubkey and give it to assbot" later. too soon for that imo.
kakobrekla: i think there was a discussion back then about this, having it coupled or uncoupled
trinque: thestringpuller: take a heroic dose of a psychedelic alone; works as well as a fight
trinque: if you don't crack yourself maybe you'll learn what's actually worth feeling anxiety in life
kakobrekla: also wasnt there the idea of running ba keyserver?
kakobrekla: and it is suppose to be compatible with --send-keys?
mircea_popescu: "Pharma is the backbone of medicine, because, unfortuantely, medicine is about treatment, not prevention. If a doctor recommends exercise, or garlic, or even aspirin, it's a sidenote, and a quaint one. "Oh, my doctor thinks I should move to Florida for my asthma!" Meanwhile, they'll give out the amoxicillin to every crying toddler, even though they know that that is detrimental. you know why? Because it looks like
mircea_popescu: a treatment. It's not all the doctors' fault; but that's the system.
mircea_popescu: I'm going to repeat this because I know people are going to misunderstand me: the system that you want is impossible to construct in the framework of modern medicine, if for no other reason than doctors don't read-- derive no benefit from reading. The system does not exist, and you cannot create it. Psychiatry is politics; medicine is the justice system. Pharma are the opposing lawyers, and doctors are the jury. Th
mircea_popescu: e jury must decide the fate of the defendant-patient. And the FDA--judge simply makes sure everyone is civil. Not accurate, save for outright perjury; just civil."
jurov: iirc the keyserver will be geared maximally toward manual process
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jurov: such as... human sacrifices
mircea_popescu: "oh, we don't have the continental legal system here - we have an adversarial system" good for you
mircea_popescu: "and we'll make medicine work that way too because there can only be one of anything"
jurov: problematic if no children
mircea_popescu: but i guess if no children one could sacrifice first gf.
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assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 14:06:35; asciilifeform: binaryatrocity: and consider moving away from keybase. generate a civilized key on your own hardware, sign it with the old, and quit sharing private key with the enemy.
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binaryatrocity: but as basically another keyserver, no problem with keybase right?
binaryatrocity: I'm not trusting them with my private key, it's just a sane profile to store the public and link me to domains etc i might control?
mircea_popescu: sorta like hanging out at the rape club is a-ok because you're only getting drinks anyway.
binaryatrocity: but I left the key to my chastity belt at home, so I'm safe!? :D
binaryatrocity: Just looking for some reasoning behind the hate, feel free to tell me I'm an idiot.
binaryatrocity: Obviously popping your private key into your browser is asking for a bad-time, but in the same vein as pgp.mit.edu is used, it's basically teh same functionality?
punkman: binaryatrocity: one, it is/was all javascript, two, it used to "backup" your private keys to their server
binaryatrocity: but handing over your private key is optional, I clearly understand why relinquishing access to your private key is a bad idea
mircea_popescu: but hanging out / using people who do a bad thing, even if they're not doing it to you, is dubious.
binaryatrocity: I see your point, the public-facing info can be useful though, sure there might be no real tangible benefit to tying your github to your gpg key that you couldn't achieve in a different manner, but it does provide a clean interface
davout: binaryatrocity: how do you "link your GPG to your github"?
mircea_popescu: this is the sort of thing one can't understand from outside.
jurov: "popping your private key into your browser" IS NOT "the same vein as pgp.mit.edu is used" !!!
jurov: where his nonsense comes from??
binaryatrocity: Storing your PUBLIC key on Keybase to be access by whomever is the equivalent to uploading your public key to the MIT keyserver
jurov: i see "basically the same functionality"
binaryatrocity: it allows someone who is looking for your public key to access it, based on information they may already know about you
mircea_popescu: pushing a point, sending an ack to a
http server is pretty much the same as sending an ack to any other
http server.
binaryatrocity: Be that your Name, an associated domain name, or an already-known 'social' account
mircea_popescu: binaryatrocity that's not wqhat it does. what it does is, it allows keybase.io to PRETEND like they're relevant, based on your own work.
☟︎ jurov: binaryatrocity: and then the private keys of other derps leak, how will you explain "but it's not me" ?
binaryatrocity: It stores the associations in a 'familiar' and accessible manner
binaryatrocity: but again i see your point, signing messages to my GIST or Twitter is still relevant without Keybase displaying it.
ascii_field: my office window faces a parking lot. there is a 'welfar' office nearly. a couple just parked, carrying out a cradle with a kid. they parked... a brand new 'jaguar'.
jurov: you're basically supporting gpg-discreditation ops
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you know more poor people buy status symbol items on credit than rich people buy them cash ?
binaryatrocity: Yes, yes I understand that keybase is bad because they allow the option for users to compromise their own private keys
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i knew, in abstract. but never saw alive.
mircea_popescu: binaryatrocity it's not that simple. that's just a symptom. keybase is bad because is made by the enemy, to suit the agenda of the enemy. the compromise key is just a symptom of this fundamental allignment with evil.
jurov: i repeat, gpg discreditation
mircea_popescu: jurov yeah but that's not meaningful to him. because dat variety speak.
binaryatrocity: I completely understand that argument, I just wanted some elaboration on "fundamental alignment with evil" heh
mircea_popescu: maybe a good move is ben_vulpes recent article on cascadian hacker.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: correction - turns out it was not 'jaguar' but something else. still, spiffier than my old tub.
binaryatrocity: Yes i am currently reading them. I also have a job to do, was hoping for a succinct answer, oh well, I'll read at my leisure. Thank you.
mircea_popescu: let me guess alfie, you mistook a new-ish chevy for jaguar.
davout: jurov: gpg discredits itself fine by itself :D
binaryatrocity: Lincoln is the "luxury" line of the Ford motor company
mircea_popescu: no i mean - some old cars are actually more expensive old than they evere were new.\
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 22:01:06; pete_dushenski: davout: also sha2 != sha256
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 21:59:05; pete_dushenski: davout: "According to Schneier it costed ~$3mn in 2012 to find an arbitrary SHA1 collision." << cost
punkman: you can also have sha3 with 256bits
davout: punkman: yeah sure, but what's usually referred to by SHA256 is SHA2 with a 256 bit length
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 16:16:53; mircea_popescu: binaryatrocity that's not wqhat it does. what it does is, it allows keybase.io to PRETEND like they're relevant, based on your own work.
ascii_field: 'i'm on arsebook, but i have a brain!' 'good work, now arsebook can say, 'some of our users have brains!'' lubing up the chumpatronic intake hopper.
mircea_popescu: aye. just for my own amusement, i had a subreddit created ; and seeded it with a coupla posts.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: perhaps not much reddit in sp ?
mircea_popescu: "well if you're already there it looks like there's people there". sure. same is true of grand central station
mircea_popescu: davout no, because "irrelevant" MP is going to accidentally by an apropos drive 50000% more traffic than reddit\
mircea_popescu: anmd then reddit will go "see ? |REDDIT DRIVES TRAFFIC!!11"
ascii_field: idk, when i link article in en there, it brings in a deluge of burned bandwidth
mircea_popescu: and then in the same day ima have to explain to well intentioned fellows what is evil about usg-tronics.
mircea_popescu: gee, i dunno. the fact they exist, as opposed to squirming in a lake full of its own guts ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field spanish is the most spoken language in the us, get off.
ascii_field: those folks aren't using the net as such. they're using sms (and, the occasional arsebook)
ascii_field: reddit, for whatever reason unknown to me, is mainly used by folks who sprechen sprechen englisch
mircea_popescu: in the sense that nobody uses it anyway and whoever forgot the bot setting on us-en
ascii_field: or, if american forgery, why not crank out a pgp to sign with
mircea_popescu: i think it might be related to the spam discussion. "why is spam misspelled ? not because they can't hiore an editor. but because the demographic."
mircea_popescu: last fucking thing a spammer wants is the attention of intelligent people.
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mike_c: this lends some credibility to your twitter feed?
mike_c: that I somehow know that it's not somebody else posting those twitter messages because the same public key and twitter address are listed on some keybase page?
mike_c: the problem with keybase is that it's smoke and mirrors. there isn't any actual link between those things, but it is pretending there is
binaryatrocity: I'd imagine more the other way around, if you already 'followed' me on Twitter, you'd reasonably be able to assume that the other 'accounts' listed are also owned/controlled by that-person
mircea_popescu: the reasonable assumption is a beast that wasn't yet born.
mike_c: why? what would make me take that leap? because they are on the same keybase page that somebody set up?
mike_c: this is the problem - imaginary "credibility"
mike_c: if it were a problem, if anyone cared about keybase
mircea_popescu: actually mike has it. this is i agree the best avenue to approach the problem. this is what's "evil", binaryatrocity : that in the pursuit of a fundamentally, inescapably false bit of fiction, you are asked to forfeit your actual life.
HeySteve: mike_c, any idea why they don't implement a gribble/assbot verification system to solve the problem?
mike_c: because consumers have come to expect simplicity.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> or, if american forgery, why not crank out a pgp to sign with
mircea_popescu: today in b-a news : all questions are the same question!
ascii_field: something like the reason why the church never countenanced the various attempts to weigh the dying to learn the mass of escaping soul, etc
binaryatrocity: I understand what you're saying, Keybase could not exist and you could still do the same process of "proofs", signing a message and positing it to Twitter saying this is me achieves the same thing
jurov: you must say so publicly, not some website automagically for you
binaryatrocity: by signing a message with your PGP key, thus linking hte accounts
binaryatrocity: stop thinking about Keybase at all, if you know me for my code on Github, and you see I've signed some message with my key, and see a message similarly signed on a Twitter account
ascii_field: binaryatrocity: and when twitter posts 'i fuck goats' under your account, how will you ~unlink~ ?
binaryatrocity: you can reasonably assume that both accounts are owned/controlled by the same person, namely "that guy i know on Github"
binaryatrocity: sure, you have no proof of real-world identity, but you have 'proof' that control of both accounts is had by the same entity
mircea_popescu: moreover unless i want to fuck you i couldn't give less of a shit about your "real world" identity
mircea_popescu: what exactly is it about wisconsin that makes it "real world" anyway.
binaryatrocity: You could again sign a message with your key stating that Twitter or some other entity is posting to your Twitter account? lol
binaryatrocity: the point is that anyone can go make a Reddit account with my nym
binaryatrocity: signing and posting messages between multiple accounts with the same name serves as some proof that they are controlled by the same entity
mircea_popescu !downs ascii_field because hey. at one instance in time eh ? :D
binaryatrocity: and yes, Wisconsin is fake, most American beer is actually spontaneously created :D
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mircea_popescu: wait wasn't oregon the beer state ? i thought wisconsin mostly made the plastic cheese.
ascii_field: they make small quantities of actual cheese, even.
binaryatrocity: Wisconsin is known for cheese, the largest city in said state is known as "Brew City", as many of the current mass-produced american beers found their start here
binaryatrocity: and I think California makes more cheese now, so I don't even know
ascii_field: the cost of actual cheese, in usa, per-gram, approaches that of silver
mircea_popescu: am i the only one aware that schlitz is "urination opening in male pants" in yidish and so amused at the notion ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field 10-20 dollars an ounce ? sounds maybe a little excessive.
mircea_popescu: mimolette exists because the dutch imported cheese was TOO EXPENSIVE. and about half the respected cheeses exist for similar reasons.
ascii_field: this process continued in usa to its logical conclusion
mircea_popescu: note that both spreading and eating works. so there is that.
ascii_field: one time, pet went on a visit to a household in the middle states where they habitually ate petrocheese
ascii_field: these folks actually do not recognize the real thing as 'cheese'
mircea_popescu took canned tuna afficionado out for fresh tuna, "what is this"
ascii_field: there are ru emigres in usa who habitually ate tinned food sold for cat, not out of poverty, but because it seemed entirely logical that quality canned fish ought to have a picture of a cat on the tin, and tastes just like the other cans
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mircea_popescu: honestly, i am a bit puzzled by all these dancing pigs and excited chicks used to market animal flesh.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be more logical to have wolves and foxes on the packaging ?
mircea_popescu: or what is the idea, the pig appreciates HIS OWN TASTE ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: a 1990 issue of su 'наука и жизнь' had a letter to the editor concerning this meme, freshly introduced to su
ascii_field: where beloved cartoon characters were printed on tins of infant food
ascii_field: 'my son cried, he did not want to eat winny pooh!'
mircea_popescu: "don't cry, baby, it's not winny pooh, it's just his guts."
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ascii_field envisions '47 ronin' brand of ground meat for infant
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ascii_field if he were tlp, might say something re: 'pig appreciates his own taste, in america'
punkman: "The company now makes most of its money from licensing its ubiquitous brand and logo across the world — 40 percent of that business is in China even though the magazine is not available there — for bath products, fragrances, clothing, liquor and jewelry among other merchandise. Nudity in the magazine risks complaints from shoppers, and diminished distribution."
ascii_field: but this is no more and no less astonishing than when, e.g., ibm ceased to build computers
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole thing hustler did was that playboy didn't have cunt in it so flint put cunt in hustler.
mircea_popescu: anywya. the migration of old porn brands towards softcore and then bedroom, bath ^ beyond is inevitable.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: iirc it had 'cunt with the safety on'
ascii_field has never even ~seen~ printed, dead-tree porn outside of an antiquarian book shop
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:15:13; mircea_popescu: thjat's why borax gets them. it scratches their carpace, they lose water.
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pete_dushenski: can someone explain to me why pgp public key blocks appear to differ while resulting in the same public key being imported ? are differenct hash algorithms being used ?
pete_dushenski: don't ask me where 'keyserver.mattrude.com' came from when i linked from btcalpha. funny lookin' thing.
punkman: pete_dushenski: try gpg --list-packets --verbose to see what's different
mircea_popescu: and notice that publishing a self-signed pubkey doth not help anything.
punkman: so it throws out main key preferences?
punkman: oh wait, it adds a second signature packet for main key
ascii_field: assuming pete_dushenski did not upload this himself
punkman: is it a cert signature from soneone else?
mircea_popescu: punkman the yellow part, could be. the changed mod in gray down at the bottom tho
punkman: yeah that's a sig from "sig sig3 8CD06AFD 2015-02-22 2019-02-22 __________ Adam O'Brien <adam.jobrien@me.com>"
punkman: yeah so you get wot sigs when you grab a key from the keyserver
punkman: is the bottom part changed because some subpackets got rearranged?
ascii_field: lulzy, but come to think of it, i remember discovering this in phuctor
punkman: I dunno how that'd work though
punkman: I wonder how pete ended up with sha512 on his self signatures
mircea_popescu: i don't see how a sub's mod woulkd change because of the packet order.
mircea_popescu: dumbass "subkey" nonsense makes this 10x as difficult to audit as it should be.
mircea_popescu: yeah well it's printed right there, sure, in a sea of other shit printed right there. i did not see it.
mircea_popescu: i don't claim to be a fucking code eagle. i claim to live in a world where i don't have to be.
ascii_field saw, but 'not from a good life', has looked at a great many of these.
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mircea_popescu: anyway, pete_dushenski : someone (o'brien) signed your key and uploaded it to one of the servers. the result is a different pubkey there.
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ascii_field: mega-l0l, sign key 1,000,000,000,001 times, upload...
mircea_popescu: i BET you someone somewhere has a dusted hdd full of various payloads to be thus employed.
pete_dushenski: i just noticed that o'brien signed my key the other week. though i've yet to ask him why.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: who needs dusty payloads, /dev/random
ascii_field: i'd be surprised if anybody tested it above 4GB
pete_dushenski wonders if there's a way to 'unsign' keys. assumes not.
ascii_field would have said 'no one will load a 4GB turd without noticing' but said this about 4MB trojans in 'visual basic', and was wrong
mircea_popescu: no, because the logical way to do this is make keys outside of hte control of their owners. because logic.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field given the wonders of bzip, it's not even sure it has to actually be that big.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 03:23:11; asciilifeform: another annoyance is the inclusion of zlib.
mircea_popescu: phd paper for insta-nsa-ship : "how to make hash output periodic so that it zips well"
ascii_field: ok which one of you wants to be the victim
pete_dushenski: coincidentally to this bit of strange, i finally moved mr. o'brien off of 'apple mail' 'pgp'... last week.
mircea_popescu: so that's p[rolly why he signed your key. it's reasonable, he has to have a copy of it on his system\
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mircea_popescu: ima set up a key on my game dedicated box in a few hours if no better solution.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not unless she goes around meadows stripping nude in one gesture.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell JuliaTourianski_ feel like stripping in a meadow ? it's for science.
pete_dushenski: off for a spell. will talk to o'brien this week. fuckin pgp...
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assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 17:36:10; ascii_field: panties
mircea_popescu: "I was about to pull the covers up, and she looks at me and says, "Daddy, are all doctors daddies and all nurses mommies?"
mircea_popescu: Maybe you think this is a simple yes or no question, but it's not, everything becomes strategy. How I answer this will affect the rest of her life, how she'll answer her own questions and set goals and limits for herself. This is a scrimmage to teach her position. Am I smart enough as a parent? Am I ready?
mircea_popescu: I've mentally practiced this moment, and dozens others like it. For some I even have a script. I know how I want her to think, to make decisions for herself free of outside influences. The trick is how to teach her that, how to make it part of the way she thinks, reflexive."
mircea_popescu: brightest fucking psych mind in america, best blog i ever read,
mircea_popescu: "I know how I want her to think, to make decisions for herself free of outside influences."
mircea_popescu: "bitch, get over here." yes massah. "here's how you gonna think free of outside influences. got that ?" yes massah.
mircea_popescu: go me, i just won all the ballas parenting points, and the bitch ain't even my daughter.\
mircea_popescu: in the end, it does not matter how smart you personally are.
mircea_popescu: spends 500 posts lambasting "narcisism" in others, proceeds to " How I answer this will affect the rest of her life". because why ?
mircea_popescu: the biological sign of success as a parent is that your kids couldn't give less of a shit about you. that's how maturity works. look at any fucking mammal out there.
mircea_popescu: "o no, people are better than you know, species" whyssat ? "because we got narcisism". well done.
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mircea_popescu: well if it doesn't pop in half hour ima... what ? give you the pubkey ?
ascii_field: (goes without saying, don't run on a box where pgp is used for anything else. it will strain your rng to all hell)
mike_c: all the spells must be recited with the proper intonation
mircea_popescu: iirc it was agreed that once we have a proper server these will crash and burn because well.
mike_c: yeah, that is pretty annoying though. it's now a 200k public key..
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see media reports about the obama's preteen whore key.
jurov: O exchanges gpgrams with whores?
ascii_field: now mircea_popescu, find a fast machine with hardware rng and run n = 21474837. then, shoot it into pgp.mit.edu ...
mircea_popescu: ascii_field *I* am to find machine with hardware rng ?
mike_c: plus, some kinda DOS on any service that imports keys from a keyserver
mike_c: bloat keys to high hell, make service download and choke on them.
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ascii_field: it won't surprise me if this brings down sks as a thing.
ben_vulpes suspects mike_c thinks that i'm not thinking for myself
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: you missed a quick demonstration of a factoid everyone already knew
ascii_field: (that anyone can take an arbitrarily-massive shit into sks)
mircea_popescu: ok this is the most insane thing i ever saw. so plumber, looks like he escaped comicon or something, dorkiest dude ever. but THEN he proceeds to CUT THROUGH METAL PLATE FREEHAND
☟︎ ascii_field: mircea_popescu: what's so odd about that ?
mircea_popescu: by which i mean : he has a handheld powertool in one hand, and a four inch metal plate in the other hand, and he's cutting a shape out of it
ben_vulpes: laugh if you will but i attempted this as a wee one
mircea_popescu: what's odd about that is if i go "boo!" suddenly ima have to repaint two walls.
ben_vulpes: some kind soul took pity on me and gave me their acetylene torch
ben_vulpes: thereby igniting a whole poorly advised career
ben_vulpes: Recent changes to the Division Clinton neighborhood have come at the expense of long time residents. With each new change, residents raise their concerns, only to be ignored. Then when the undesirable outcome materializes, the city proposes yet another change that further damages our quality of life. It was evident, when traffic and development projects came to Division, that these would result in more congestion along Clinton. Yet
ben_vulpes: those policies were pushed through. The biggest obstacle to safe biking on Clinton is the excess of parked cars. Will the new parking policies still under discussion help to address this? It seems like Clinton Street should be the number one priority for parking permits and removal of nonresident cars (including those coming from all the new multifamily development). This would be a better restriction than imposing more impediments on
ben_vulpes: local long-time residents ability to move around our neighborhood–it has become difficult enough, already!
ben_vulpes: the "get the state involved to fix the states own mistakes" thing needs a doing. again.
mircea_popescu: what protected class is this "long time resident" thing anyway ?
ben_vulpes: those long term residents actually can predict the problems statal intervention will result in.
ben_vulpes: just price 'em out, replace with dumber fucks
mircea_popescu: any ustard that lives in the same place for more than five years is a failure anyway
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jurov: ben_vulpes' computer caught fire
ascii_field: but perhaps mircea_popescu witnessed the famous and respected hero, Angle Grinder Man
ben_vulpes: i never understood why he used the extremely obvious and needing-of-power grinder instead of a torch
ascii_field: and grinder may be loud, but you aren't robbing bank at night
ascii_field: you're sawing in the middle of the day, in a busy town
jurov: and prolly he wasn't paying for the grinder plates
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ok, upwards alabama then << That one is pronounced Mo-Bee-le
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ascii_field: 'You have the fucking time to fuck shit up. That is what you are saying. Most normal people on nights and weekends fuck their significant others, go to parks with the kids and enjoy life. But you spend your nights and weekends writing dog shit that fucks up my weeks. We are paid to fix the damage you do.' << mega-winner
BingoBoingo: Its too bad, in some way we, the normal people who do good things for ourselves and our customers and our employers, really have better job security with breaking fuckheads like you around. But I want to have our computers spend time you know curing cancer or designing a fusion reactor and doing useful shit rather than cleaning up after your dog shit"
trinque: GNU/Faggot no warranties expressed or implied in your fucking shit software << ahahaha yes
BingoBoingo: It's the rare actually interesting new comment on /. that isn't copypasta
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:34; asciilifeform: PeterL: most 'alternatives for x11' dispense with the everything-can-be-piped-over-tcp
ascii_field: FUCK this-replaces-x11-but-won't-pipe-over-tcp
ascii_field: yes, i get it, they want winblowz, gui-in-the-kernel crapolade
punkman: why should I want pipe x11 over tcp?
BingoBoingo: I like the irony of new graphicx stax requires X11 to run on top of in this port
ascii_field: because i run proggy on machines connected by networks, what a concept
ascii_field: but for it to look THE SAME as if it were running local
punkman: but there are other tools that can pipe the graphics over tcp, no?
ascii_field: not in a generally applicable to everything way.
ascii_field: as it is, i can take x11 proggy and the result is ~indistinguishable~ from running it locally.
ascii_field: glyphs, 'clipboard', viewport shape, the lot.
mircea_popescu: who told random usg tard that he is qualified to "cure cancer" or even get out of bed at all when he can't even run a clean system ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i haven't any idea who wrote the linked text. but clearly it is someone fed up with having to shovel the shit to create his local 'clean'.
mircea_popescu: why is he using source he doesn't control from people he doesn't know ; and why does he imagine doing this is different from being on windows.
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> why is he using source he doesn't control from people he doesn't know ; and why does he imagine doing this is different from being on windows. << Probably because Job
mircea_popescu: bitcoind is frozen on 0.5.x ; gpg is frozen on 1.4.x ; eulora is frozen in cs dependencies on X Y Z. guess why ?
ascii_field: because the alternative is sitting on a sharp broomstick ?
ascii_field: poor wild man controls nothing. what's he to use ?
mircea_popescu: but yes the alternative is giving up the delusion that derp belongs to a civilisation he once saw through a window.
mircea_popescu: the poor have no fucking rights to pretend like they're people.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field and do you go "shit honey, check out our place, there's like... not even any chocolate fountain here" ?
ascii_field: 'nah that's a geysering shitpipe, not chocolate'
mircea_popescu: because that's what i fucking read in there. "i'm poor and where's my chocolate fountain."
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is general-purpose american shorthand for 'something productive and cpu-bound'
mircea_popescu: you can't do anything, ands you wouldn't know what to do on your own either. this is what being poor means
ascii_field: poor schmuck prolly used to 'folding-at-home' etc.
shinohai: Perhaps my time would be better spent complaining less, and learning how chocolate fountains work.
mircea_popescu: being poor = too dumb to put your shoes on, by yourself.
ascii_field: we have a more specific term, некультурный
mircea_popescu: is the last line in that rant "i'm so sick of you losers i'm going to go find a master to sleep at the feet of" ?
ascii_field: (has very little, if anything, to do with money. can be it while having a billion)
mircea_popescu: under a certain level, the money'[s actually smarter than you.
mircea_popescu: i never knew i could equally hate both sides of a "debate" to the degree.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: fucking ustards. everything they touch turns to shit both ways. it's like... a bunch of monkeys that invaded a temple, and now not only is everything covered in shit but you gotta listen to arguments in between the set of monkeys that believes in throwing the shit at the walls and the set of monkeys that believes in gently unctioning it on.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell you're all monkeys and you'd look so much better in quihabs i can't even describe it.
ascii_field: today there is just a hut with walls made of straw & monkey shit.
mircea_popescu: don't give me that, i had computers that worked back when i was playing golden axe on them.
jurov: to think that ibm pc was universally reviled like today systemd
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it had a solo mode remember that ? like, not the proper campaign, just a sort of duel chain.
mircea_popescu: how far did you get ? the two laughing fat dudes with hammers ?
ascii_field: not hard. but my attention span was. and this was the time we finally got net access.
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pete_dushenski: "Twitter has said it is cutting 336 jobs, roughly 8% of its global workforce, as part of a restructuring of the business. The job cuts will cost between $10m (£6.5m) and $20m in severance pay, while the restructuring will cost between $5m and $15m, the company said." << sex sells. except when it's a platform for sex.
ascii_field: the real question is why did they need 4200 employees ?!
punkman: shoveling aforementioned shit
punkman: and probably a bunch of them trying to sell ads
mircea_popescu: mostly going to conferences, selling adds, trying to hire more derps in fucktarded locations
mircea_popescu: it's not like a large rock is more complex than a smaller rock. they're rocks. exactly the same thing.
mircea_popescu: 30k is not really notable. that's about 6 months pay (taxes apply to severance too you know)
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pete_dushenski: "[Volkswagen] investments are to be reduced by some one billion euros per year, the efficiency program is to be accelerated." << never waste a good crisis. adios unionistas.
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pete_dushenski: "One London-based startup, called Everledger, is developing blockchain tools for the diamond industry, designed to log information on ethical sourcing, insurance claims, and theft investigations, associated with detailed digital descriptions of the valuable stones. CEO Leanne Kemp: "You would be able to identify whether those diamonds are truly certified or not certified," " << so like deedbot but less useful so
pete_dushenski: set to be buried by useless piles of vc crud. good riddance.
pete_dushenski: "As far as Overstock, which has said it plans to offer blockchain-recorded securities to a wider audience, Byrne says the company’s had productive talks with the agency so far. "I think," he says, "that they’re gonna let the crypto-revolution occur." " << oh pleeeease let it occur. with sugar on top.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck gives a shit about "sourcing" of diamonds outside a very cultish narrow segment of bored middle class art majors/social scientards ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and who the fuck told these that a "blockchain technologee" works when a centrally controlled group like that is the only thing interested ?
mircea_popescu: let me guess, if tomorrow the USG Comissar uh i mean Czar In Charge Of What This Particular Set Of Idle Fucktards Thinks says that the blockchain impedes great justice and should be edited so and so to promote "fairness" they'll... oppose ? resist ?
pete_dushenski: as if this somehow made them more transparent and accountable
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it was intended as "ironic" usage, originally.
mircea_popescu: like all attempts at humor by the mentally stunted libertard class, it backfired something fierce.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: are you aware of any molecules with symmetries like [6,6] chiralane?
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