mod6: <+adlai> mod6: and i say this with greatest regard for alf, but i will probably get more "12step" mileage out of your T-shirt (of the hair variety, sadly, but trimmer than orgmode!) than trb and phuctor, combined << wut? you lost me there amigo.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> by now the phuctor rss is actually a major reason to watch this chan. i have nfi how one could be "in crypto/compsec/sysadmin" and NOT want to see the key holes in real time. << the congressional record is reason enough; but with broadcasted ass fuckings, all the more reason indeed Sir.
mod6: glad to see phuctor back
mod6: Salud, asciilifeform!
mod6: we've discussed a lot of things in here.. have we talked about anything that you can say isn't a total pile of shit as far as a physical random number generator?
mod6: is there some sortof radioactive decay thing that you've see or used that is worth the money?
mod6: i need a lab, and some co-57
mod6: err, i was as thinking 56, but hell i dunn
mod6: i need some random numbers
mod6: 56 has a halflife of like 77.27 days
mircea_popescu: listen, you don't specifically need radioactive decay. you could do something as simple as running a laser bean through six layers of mosquito net.
mod6: 6 layer mosquito net is good enough defraction? or how's that work?
mircea_popescu: well, you take a mouse apart, and stick a bunch of layers of tight netting in between the light and the detector element.
mircea_popescu: you can also buy a g-m counter, they're not terribly expensive, lay it on some ceramic tile or somesuch.
mod6: sounds good, but why ceramic?
mod6: wow, reading on this now....
mod6: no idea that it had any sortof rad level higher than background. thx Mr. P.!
mod6: hey that's neat asciilifeform
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 00:57 mircea_popescu: the result will be some sort of noise.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i posit that the mesh vibrator thing is ~= throwing dice.
mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference.
☟︎ gribble: Current Blocks: 409645 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 1618 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 26 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 02:16 mircea_popescu: anyway. item described reduces to SUBSONIC microphone. which is a major difference.
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
gribble: Error: "grasers" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "masers" is not a valid command.
gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*
mod6: someone is knockin on all the doors alf
BingoBoingo wonders what it means when phuctor is DDoS on a day qntra barely recieved any comment spamzors
mod6: btw, this snow crash book is pretty good. about 1/2 way through...
BingoBoingo: Holy shit buyer is doing something with site
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 23:47 hanbot: <jurov> and re:holding s.qntr your concerns are misplaced. No one expressly forbade me to flip/short/margin/whrtever them, then there was gracious donation from princessnell who lost her key cand could not think of any way how to prove her identity otherwise, etc... << err, if "she" lost her key, how'd she prove it was her that lost it?
ben_vulpes: so princessnell can't up, because can't keys. what of it, ergo "not princessnell".
ben_vulpes: but this is all kind of moot, because at the end of the day, jurov is simply on the hook for princessnell's shares, should someone with her key ever come along to claim them.
ben_vulpes: jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (and happily detect, e.g., neutron flux) << it undermines peace you see. for some definitions of peace which reduces to "usg makes all the war"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway. certainly good candidate for s.nsa product list, to be sold anonymously for btc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting << it is insulting, not to us though. think about it : the crab has pincers because in its environment THAT WORKS ; and so does "GET /blog/blog-config.php~".
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> jurov now has the (enviable?) privilege of determining the likelihood that the call will be exercised, and adjusting his reserves accordingly. << somethinglikethat.
mircea_popescu: so depending on how you figure, there's 1.55 bad moduli per thousand ; of which 0.11 are outright factorable, the rest mostly bad exponents.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 14:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?) << essentially, quantum antenna.
mircea_popescu: espcially because it amplifies well. 1km fiber, ~1mn x value of 1 mm fiber.
mircea_popescu: there was some sort of large scale diddling of germany
mircea_popescu: there seems to be no use made of it. i was tempted to make this into a qntra piece, but...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're thinking "every sperm is sacred" style. think al schwarz "i really dun care if i waste 99% of the glass" style.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, this being unknown unknown. but as an example : take hard porous material (say, metallic carbide), cut into thin slice, heat to 3k, pour melted glas on top, let some of it find its way through necessarily open pores (ceramic is thin), select from the results usable fibers.
phf: I think ! conflicts with deedbot though
mircea_popescu: phf what do you keep doing to these women that they keep kicking you out every three weeks.
gribble: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you use plastic and adjust temp correspondingly.
mircea_popescu: you fill the underside with gas at pressure so exact same density as fiber.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be said for the record that if anyone wants to move here and do the job, and we can keep costs within sanity, i'd definitely considering making a plant and exporting the product freely
mircea_popescu: just for the public relations embarassment of publicising this fact.
mircea_popescu: (in my mind the foremost role of this place is exactly - begging for unconventional wunderwaffen)
mircea_popescu: ;;google material that neutrons excite, emits photons on deexcitement
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically speaking, thermalizing neutrons may take them to visible spectrum. but this wouldn't count would it.
mircea_popescu: anywya. my solid state is dusty. i dun recall what all this was.
mircea_popescu: this sounds more like a job of "if i had the she-thieves" than $$$
mircea_popescu: anyway. let's leave this in mod6's ticket tree somewhere offscreen for nao.
mircea_popescu: actually i'm surprised not more radioastronomy effort is put into this. imagine if you will : array of a few million km long fibers, arranged inside a cylinder, in layers by angstrom thichness from 1mn on the bottom to 1 A on the top, in a circular pattern at 0.001 rads apart each.
mircea_popescu: you need 3141 * 10**6 * 10**3 meters worth of fiber, and you get the best damn measure of background neutron radiation ever made.
ben_vulpes: pediwikia suggests polyethylene naphthalate as scintillating plastic
mircea_popescu: (my crude idea being that according to wavelength, the neutrons will be captured top to bottom)
mircea_popescu: lol wankery is one tyhing, but afaik no such observatory exists ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes neutrons are interesting for the reason explained in alf's link : they only exist as result of activity of a select set of materials/conditions
mircea_popescu: suns don't yield them, supernova, quasars and black holes only
mircea_popescu: or in related news : guess oh dear reader why the sun is mostly nickel/iron by mass
mircea_popescu: and by "sun" i mean "earth" for all the difference this makes.
mircea_popescu: i suspect nobody really went to YOUR third grade, alf.
mircea_popescu: and you'll have to desist with that, by the way. yesterday girl burst into tears in subte because i went "you don't understand fractions. pick up a third grade book, or at least it was third grade in romania, whatever highschool / college course it is in english, and study fractions."
mircea_popescu: tall, pretty thing. small tits, but that's easily fixed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, not that poor. unlike the rest of her misfortunate sisters, at least she has someone to say "you may not be a person until you learn fractions".
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - THIS is fundamental illustration of "republic may not exist if rules are homogenous". historical republics failed on the basis of people agreeing as to what's beauty in women.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the usg is very worried about it, because think about it - unshieldable missile target.
mircea_popescu: this would allow nuke sub detector to unerringly destroy all the subs. that's the last hope, now that carriers aren't worth their weight in bull viscera.
mircea_popescu: anyway. if memory serves this became obvious during late 70s / 80s faroe islands gamewars with the russians, resulting in us subs doing all sorts of lulzy, dangerous, landhugging
mircea_popescu: as well as a programme to deploy pu decoys on ocean floor. tho a) russians map the shit and b) so wtf does it do for you anyway.
mircea_popescu: no idea where that's at by now, and i suspect everyone involved would much rather not even look at the discussion.
mircea_popescu: but yes, for the slow, THIS is what they mean by "undermine peace". the us doctrine is that its ability to strike is roughly speaking equal to "world peace", and this makes any sort of us "projection" unfeasible.
mircea_popescu: thus, undermines [what's left of] "world peace", as the usg defines the term. this after the 2000s saw the underminiung of the other chunk, with china, russia and now iran making carriers useless.
mircea_popescu: the mirror relation between "world peace" and "bitcoin" in its treatment in usg agitprop sources being, of course, striking.
mircea_popescu: and could consist of a 100kg batyscaph with some fiber towed, a sort of intelligent depth charge
mircea_popescu: doesn't have to find you across the atlantic, just lock on you if you come within 100km
ben_vulpes: it's disturbing how hard this conversation is making
ben_vulpes: already wrote three tests this morning. making coffee and wanking over scintillation for a spell.
mircea_popescu: (re interdiction zone : yes, subs fire icbms, so have range. but they're not orbitals, and interdiction zone can be practical things such as "a ring around either end of panama canal, down by terra del fuego and up by newfoundland, for instance)
mircea_popescu: just in case anyone in argentina is both a) smart enough to know that #trilema logs are more important to his country than anything happening in spanish and b) interested in wtf would someone care about fauklands.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sort-of an application of my above cylinder.
ben_vulpes: look i didn't grow up on usenet it's nyoooooz to me
ben_vulpes: plus not in log can't possibly be famous.
jurov: i do remember it being discussed too
jurov: and it's not only russian, sop in all countries with snowfallfall/melt/freeze cycles in winter
jurov: ...that also have railroad
ben_vulpes: mhm well let me know when you find those other loglines
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> look i didn't grow up on usenet it's nyoooooz to me << your third grade sucks compared to his third grade!!!
ben_vulpes: fucking /life/ has been remedial study.
ben_vulpes: do you know how we were taught about conduction?
mircea_popescu: "My mom did the beds. I did the bedwarming. A memoir."
ben_vulpes: (of startling diameter, in retrospect. musta cost a fortune.)
ben_vulpes: teacher lined us up, holding the rod, and applied a torch to one end.
ben_vulpes: sure, if it'd happened before 5th grade.
mircea_popescu: uh. no, actually, in my country physics = 6th grade, they spend a year doing such stuff.
mircea_popescu: old style curricula actually included machined piece of various metals, large chunk with varying thicknesses, with movable screw connectors. with voltmeter and amperemeter, you could measure the material.
ben_vulpes: attitude towards math during my tenure at hippieschool was "oh, you finished the long division worksheet? oh uh let me go photocopy some more."
mircea_popescu: the idea was quite deliberately to make connection with liquid flow etc, the next year bernouli discussion contained EXACT SAME PROFILE
ben_vulpes: yeah, once i browbeat my parents into moving me to a school with a decent physics and math program things picked up.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes amusingly enough, in ro the difference is made as "real" vs "humane" schools.\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda too lazy to deedbot a list of the various spots in logs where the fact that bitbet keeps no logs was discussed. seems about 99 and 3/4% that the whole point there was to create an entry point for later parallel construction, "o look what bitbet logs show".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: except, of course, any bitbet logs are an ulterior fabrication, they never existed prior to march 2016.
mircea_popescu: lulzy shit, anyway. complete with sig that used to be someone coming back from the dead, apparently not quite sure what its nick is.
mircea_popescu: anyway, yeah, no fake logs appeared yet. and miner conspiracy no longer exists, also. and things.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this discussion with the kaiser wilhelm "disappeared" daily telegraph interview discussed last week :
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: the reason you do not want to discuss anything with hitler, such as for instance in the shape of hitler's own propaganda magazine "interviewing" you is that they aren't interviewing you. what they are doing is trying for a "o noes scandal and wilhelm lost all his support" piece. if it works, they got it, if it doesn't work, "it never happened".
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: the pill against this, of course, being to force them to conduct their interviews here. which means that our logs publish better material faster than they do. which means that we > them.
jurov: ;;later tell BingoBoingo pls to doublecheck the figures on qntra report, the figures are hysterically off
mircea_popescu: and if they're not willing to eat his cumbiscuit, it's clear why : they aspire to go political in the manner discussed above.
mircea_popescu: and this is why i won't talk to any of them, unless in this manner.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways. very strict dilemma : either you're a derpy magazine looking to give some material to your readers, in which case the interview being published in fuill and first on the logs does not bother you in the slightest ;
mircea_popescu: or else you're in the business of trying to shape public discourse for hitler, in which case the above is unacceptable, and you've blown your cover.
mircea_popescu: there's no way out of this, which is why them ignoring #trilema is a forced mistake.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, who reads our scientific studies matters, in the sense that they're actual science. not only valuable but actionable. not reading = death.
mircea_popescu: "oh it'll take too long" is, essentially, the defense of the cod in scania sounds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform his point it loads for youk, or me, but not isup.me
gribble: Error: "googleviavirginalproxy" is not a valid command.
jurov: curl: (7) Failed to connect to 46.166.165.30 port 80: Connection refused
jurov: no, i tried curl from aws
jurov: perhaps isup.me is on aws, too. from a gandi.net vps it works
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's your definition of "Real traffic" in "<asciilifeform> ~0 real traffic." ?
mircea_popescu: certainly conde nast isn't publishing anything matching "phuctor" string ever again.
mircea_popescu: which isn't such a bad idea - spares either side the aggravation.
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh this silence seriously enhances teh value of phuctor, at least to my eyes. imagine, i can link something from trilema that's not just interesting, but actually exclusive content ? sign me up lmao.
ben_vulpes: "half of my advertising budget is wasted, i just don't know which half."
mircea_popescu: what happened to "hire security, wait for protesters to come close, beat the shit out of them with a spiked club and piss on the piled up remains" ?
mircea_popescu: this is the historical solution to the mob problem, "if you're in range of the fascia you were protesting too close". wut happened.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to appreciate, i have absolutely no patience.
mircea_popescu: i'm not gonna fucking sit in a car while whatever shitshow progresses.
jurov: does this work anymore?
jurov: you haven't decided yet?
jurov: lol i thought it's already done and named it "closing" statemnt
mircea_popescu: practically, its closing means wiping 235`013 shares and 51.57856632 btc off coinbr account ; minus 0.31561326 btc your reward. that makes sense ?
jurov: yes, i bought almost everything back
mircea_popescu: ima have to review the history of this thing, how did it go, you started with 100k shares and 10 btc then got more shares over time ?
jurov: mircea_popescu: i started with 50 BTC only
mircea_popescu: jurov ah i recall at some point you being short and me adding more ? or no ?
jurov: you bught shares off me once or twice
mircea_popescu: ah right, that's what it was, refinanced you for shares. right.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i'll be re-reading teh statements and issuing a closure for f.mpif.
mircea_popescu: seems so far you're the only PC that made profit huh ? not bad, 20% of the class.
jurov: well, the risk was much lower
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i dun get it ? << /ME guesses a sock of that chick with the lady boner for you
mircea_popescu: this strategy has worked so well in the past ; hopefully it continues in the indefinite future.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 02:32 asciilifeform: in other 'news',
http://imgur.com/4nqeK3A << in a museum (hands on right hand side are of pet). one of the machines on exhibit was gettable into
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 02:50 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'm quite convinced that the difficulties of air traffic are artificial.
davout: mircea_popescu: i lolled at the champagne towel
davout: i had nfi "kako de porc" was even a thing
davout: in other news i'm moving to the south of france, i'm absolutely fucking done with living in paris
davout: i like toulouse a lot, lived there for six years, but i think it's going to be in the country around nimes/montpellier
davout: kinda want to go into hermit mode in an 8 bedroom country house
davout: an au pair will probably be an easier sell
davout: i want space, and a nearby airfield
davout: i don't mind paris for business, but really, it's no place to live in, especially with kids
davout: the only time of the year where it actually is livable is in august, when all parisians are away
davout: otherwise it's either overcrowded subway, or overcrowded road, or risking your life on a motorcycle to ditch the traffic jam
mircea_popescu: this is kinda how "civilised" derps go the world over. "oh i don't mind la for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to SF, 30 years later, "oh, i don't mind sf for business, but really, unlivable". so they all move to seattle. then it';s "oh, i don't mind seattle for blabla", move to portlant. next year...
davout: well, the point is not really to change cities, it's to gtfo of them
mircea_popescu: livable city = 50% of population is virgin females < 30 in chastity belts, living on 3rd floor 4 to a room and weekly spankings.
mircea_popescu: the old people, and the poor people, can gtfo live in a village near nimes. send the daughter over, will be ok.
mircea_popescu: &boys can gtfo make a name for themselves in the merchant marine or w/e. india.
davout: i like the idea of sending the kids outside to learn from mother nature instead of mother tv, and having the horses around instead of having to suffer a 30km drive to get to ride
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