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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8073 @ 0.00048567 = 3.9208 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33675 @ 0.00048223 = 16.2391 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00048223 = 9.9339 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: !up xss
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitstein sure, why not.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
xss: buna mircea! ce mai faci
mircea_popescu: not bad.
mircea_popescu: who're you again ?
xss: no1
xss: just browsing the good ol' freenode
mircea_popescu: alright.
mircea_popescu: that exahash bet is interesting huh. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 387785 | Current Difficulty: 7.910238090022598E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 389087 | Next Difficulty In: 1302 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: ;;nethash
gribble: 747455577.646
mircea_popescu: seriously looks like 200+ phash added this week.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-12-2015#1340251 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 12:10:47; jurov: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin.png intel miners on?
mircea_popescu: ha
asciilifeform: miner usgocalypse, possibly
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: or maybe someone really has it in for mpoe-pr, wants her to lose all bets.
mircea_popescu: NO EXPENSE SPARED
asciilifeform: what could possibly be more surprising than the most easily-predictable thing conceivable finally happening.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla_> yeah that guy, i actually bought a hard copy of the book though, been working on in it 1-2 hours each evening, trying to make a Legend of the Red Dragon mud type game meets bitcoin <<< ahahaha check out the guy that took a year off from btc biz :D
asciilifeform pictures an obamahruschov banging shoe and declaiming that miners 'are rolling off our conveyors like sausages!1111 we will bury you'
mircea_popescu: haha would be pretty good actually.
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> top kek, mircea_popescu made buttcoin << eh, they've got a fascination with me ever since back when the subreddit was called somethingafwul
mircea_popescu: "edmundedgar 6 points 1 hour ago Why weren't people like this around when they were designing CSS?" << also, buttcoin is about 50 iq points over bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: ajhahahahaa omfg.
mircea_popescu: "CountOneInterrupt 2 points 1 hour ago Gotta love that classy web design with a butt next to the name. It's our sister site!" << check it out! someone fucking got it!
mircea_popescu: one of my more absconse private jokes to date! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://gothamgal.com/2015/07/recapping-a-round/ << a little more about yc and its miserable approach to investing.
assbot: Recapping a round?? – Gotham Gal ... ( http://bit.ly/1IYAa3z )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00048462 = 8.6505 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbtle2wxjF1qbujxso1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qzl4rN )
mod6: ok. let's see here...
mod6: <ascii_field> trb www still shows non-v patches ?! << ok so no, not yet. after ben and I sign everything for the release, we'll be updating the website.
mod6: Thanks for the reminder though.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00048223 = 15.6243 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: 'That's when you see the toxicity of the overall startup culture is the root of the problem that lead to your investment situation, diversity issues, contract worker issues, etc. A culture that values above all else -- as one investor put it to me -- the unfair advantage. The thing you do / have / are that gives you a 10x leg up on everyone else. And that just makes people look for the fastest, easiest way to the most unfair a
asciilifeform: dvantage they can get. Taking advantage of loopholes in laws, instead of doing what's right. Hiring people from your own network, instead of going beyond its narrow reach. And now, recapping a round, instead of honoring prior investments. That's the culture. And you *really* feel it in SF. You'd easily walk into a coffee shop there, and overhear this story about recapping a round being told with laughs and high-fives.' << from
asciilifeform: ze commentz
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340144 << lulzy. the sheer cheapness of the sham... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 06:49:28; assbot: Satoshi's PGP Keys Are Probably Backdated and Point to a Hoax | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiEGw )
danielpbarron: aaaaand the trilema twatter account is suspended
asciilifeform: wasn't that last year ?
danielpbarron: that was mircea_popescu's personal account
mod6: hi asciilifeform
asciilifeform: good evening mod6 !
mod6: anyway, yeah, I'm looking forward to getting the website cleaned up and putting V up there with vpatches.
asciilifeform: neato
mod6: we're getting close.
mod6: you wanna see my script I'm workin on?
asciilifeform: sure
mod6: (this by no means is finished, but interested to see what you think about the direction i'm taking)
mod6: (this is only pasted for 1 week as it certainly isn't complete): http://dpaste.com/28ZBQRF.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIvTXg )
asciilifeform: i think i see the point here
mod6: so what I'm hoping to accomplish here is to alter the .mk files that accompany buildroot, so they pull the 3rd party reqs directly from the foundation site instead of wherever they currently point to. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but can't escape the feeling that the dependency orchestra is too broad for a buildroot linux to be meaningfully v-tight
asciilifeform: (srsly, 'expat' ?)
mod6: ikr
mod6: im not sure this is the best way to handle this
mod6: i think it'll work though. my rotor+v054 script would run this script after extracting the buildroot package
asciilifeform: it will work, yes. just like my original wild buildroot worked.
asciilifeform: that isn't the issue.
mod6: i have one more bridge to cross yet, and I havent gotten that far yet; having a script of my own somehow check the sigs & hashes after the file xfrs are complete.
mod6: i do see what you're saying in a sense I think.
mod6: it's a tough pill to swallow to sign & rely on such garbage
mod6: many wheels to reinvent.
mod6: in the short term, is there a way to maybe do this better that I'm missing?
asciilifeform: well
asciilifeform: throwing out the userland entirely will simplify the build considerably.
asciilifeform: (bitcoind as kernel module)
asciilifeform: the thing is, imho classical bitcoind is a rickety life support affair regardless of how we cut it.
mod6: im with you there.
asciilifeform: and for so long as it is in use, it will be dragging along atrocious shitgnomicities.
mod6: im of the persuasion that bitcoin should get it's own OS, eventually, when it can be built.
asciilifeform: imho if the thing at the core is still the ridiculous cpp turd (complete with openssl, bdb) then the effort is wasted.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85085 @ 0.00048066 = 40.897 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54150 @ 0.00047794 = 25.8805 BTC [-] {5}
mod6: yeah getting rid of openssl is going to be, an adventure. not only does the crypto need to be implemented, a perfect backward compatibility needs to be maintained.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ze commentz << honestly... a bunch of derps burned 2mn and want "to recoup their investment" aka http://trilema.com/2009/capitalism-si-naivitate/#selection-85.81-85.106
assbot: Capitalism si naivitate. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdPa95 )
mircea_popescu: then they DIDN'T want to go in pro-rata on the new round.
mircea_popescu: the us has really decayed lots and lots.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> aaaaand the trilema twatter account is suspended <<< now i gotta go in the logs, see what all that does.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so this entire MONTH trilema got exactly 3 clicks from twitter.
mircea_popescu: and they were all spambots.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they imagine they're doing, but more power to them and their clown car.
danielpbarron: i'm a little surprised i didn't get suspended as well, for retwatting the offending .. uh..
mircea_popescu: mod6 a perfect backward compatibility <<< every month less perfect.
mircea_popescu: the more inclined to break the protocol the power rangers become, the less important it is to actually maintain all the warts.
mircea_popescu: so in a sense they're actually working for us, unintentionally, in their idiocy.
mircea_popescu: pre hearn&fail-bip, the standard was pretty high. by now it's a lot easier to argue "hey, at least it's not as bad as THAT dumb shit"
mircea_popescu: so they're earning us slack. not that it HAS to be used, obv.
mod6: true. this is a good point.
mod6: it'll just need some very deep examination and testing one way or another.
mircea_popescu: yeah.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDesk/status/675142769749438464
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asciilifeform: l0l, the andreas a. crud take 2x.
asciilifeform: snore.
ben_vulpes: mother
ben_vulpes: fucking
ben_vulpes: FLEANODE
ben_vulpes: evening, gents.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes !
asciilifeform: howz life in the ipnohe brigades.
ben_vulpes: oh, lulzy
ben_vulpes: this week i'm actually preferring to hire "jr" people with broad programming experience (and varied backgrounds) for pressing into the ipnohe and andorp squads, theory being that broad experience with other humans and technologies trumps cheap labor and misguided enthusiasm
asciilifeform: wai wut, it's a week-by-week turnover?
asciilifeform: as in, stalingrad ?!
ben_vulpes: that part's supposed to be entertaining
ben_vulpes: not srs
ben_vulpes: did midnightmagic ever show up to disavow mircea_popescu?
danielpbarron: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2015/12/10#l1449770808.0
assbot: BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1IYSwBF )
asciilifeform: not today
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2015 21:49:32; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes this comment was at least half-ways pointed in your general direction http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/07/desperately-trying-to-put-the-auto-back-into-automobile-in-a-flaccid-attempt-to-put-the-relevance-back-into-motoring/#comment-37004
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you never read the shaw lolz?
ben_vulpes: ;;google rails is a ghetto
gribble: ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto (2007-12-31) - cat -v harmful stuff - Cat-v.org: <http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto>; Where can I find Zed Shaw's original "Rails Is A Ghetto" essay ...: <https://www.quora.com/Where-can-I-find-Zed-Shaws-original-Rails-Is-A-Ghetto-essay>; Zed Shaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw>
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nein
asciilifeform: it is far from my home planet.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hey boss, i keep meaning to ask you about the details of dataflow programming (vis a vis turning ascii files into computation), but i'm having trouble booking the like 3 hours of sit-down time it'd take to respond in a timely fashion
asciilifeform: details?
ben_vulpes: so it's arbitrarily parallelizable, right?
asciilifeform: aha
ben_vulpes: okay, do function definitions make sense in this paradigm?
asciilifeform: sorta how you can flush your own toilet, and the outcome does not depend on the result of me flushing mine ☟︎
asciilifeform: sur
asciilifeform: e
ben_vulpes: so they'd have to be "pure" (to borrow a fp-ism) in order to serve the arbitrary parallelism definition?
asciilifeform: the distinction b/w/ 'pure' and 'impure' fp presumes a von neumann processor
asciilifeform: is my pushing a pencil on my desk, containing 11 pencils, 'pure' ?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell Naphex yes yes but what about all of the much more difficult questions re statements and income and equity and depreciation and whatnot
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ^^ unrelated
ben_vulpes: okay asciilifeform another strike at the fortress of incomprehensibility then
ben_vulpes: so i take the little proggy i've written--would i need to do anything special to it in order to take advantage of more m^2 of compute fabric?
asciilifeform: depends?
ben_vulpes: on what?
asciilifeform: what you wrote ?
ben_vulpes: so there must be constraints on the programmering style in order for an arbitrary program to be arbitrarily parallelizable
ben_vulpes: this is probably horrendously wrong, but i currently imagine some 'main' program entrypoint with subsections that indicate their parallelizability. is this entirely wrong or correctably wrong?
ben_vulpes: (and yes i understand why you don't want to talk to anyone polluted by vn about this thing)
asciilifeform: sane language is not a set of 'meat' with annotations re: compiler hints, but one homogeneous thing.
asciilifeform: and yes, there is a lengthy unlearning required to grasp this.
asciilifeform: vn?
ben_vulpes: von neumann.
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ben_vulpes: > one homogenous thing << in the same way that the cl compiler's available to user code? or some level higher?
ben_vulpes would unlearn anything to be free of the shitstack
ben_vulpes: that said, clojure's a good example of how even a shitty lisp is strong enough to wrap its tentacles around more or less the whole webshitstack and deliver a single cognitive environment for writing 'software' that stretches from the server to the browser
ben_vulpes: it's not great but hey you're working in the browser
ben_vulpes bbl
mod6: hi ben_vulpes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00047554 = 11.7458 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: mod6: ack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36246 @ 0.00047771 = 17.3151 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "Just once I want to get sent to deal with a pronoid schizophrenic. The guy who's convinced that everyone is out to help him. He believes the FBI is watching him with the intent of making him their new Director. Aliens are invading Earth so they can give him the secret to eternal life. He wears a tinfoil hat to absorb the rays being beamed at him by the CIA that make him smarter and happier."
ben_vulpes: mominlol has a great story about having to be the big bad landlady so that the social workers could maintain the trust of her evictee
ben_vulpes: in 1970 boston
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/rabite/status/675080418941628416
BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzt928QIEAINz1b.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5WRLl )
ben_vulpes: "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35600 @ 0.00047398 = 16.8737 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/gallery/260BU
assbot: Tess Holliday/Munster is a shitty person, and here's why. - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5ZEnQ )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340358 << usg miners mining under antpool and f2pool umbrellas ?? https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 14:52:15; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340251 << l0l, miner usgocalypse ?
assbot: Bitcoin Hashrate Distribution - Blockchain.info ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q61Rzz )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: WHy wouldn't they?
pete_dushenski: fees ?
pete_dushenski: compare above chart with this one from 5 months ago : http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/#footnote_1_4145
assbot: BitFury and private property in the land of the free. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q62065 )
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Consider though the wisdom of USG miner propping up foreign pools that through serendipity introduce instability to the network
pete_dushenski: 'antpool' has gone from 15% to 26%, f2pool from 21% to 24%, btcchina from 12% to 14%, bitfury from 14% to 11%
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: that's giving the usg a lot of credit on the 'wisdom' front, certainly more than they've warranted thus far.
pete_dushenski: but mebbe 'wunderwaffen' is at work here ?
BingoBoingo: This doesn't take wisdom. This only requires accidentaling and remembering all the way back to the ancient history of this July.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, even Bitfury might have some hash at f2pool and antpool
pete_dushenski: ya, those pie charts are pretty useless, tis true.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340654 << you missed pankkake (http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/) and thickasthieves (http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/#comment-109550), both of whom were far more active in b-a, whose lack of presence was actually noticeable (at least in daily log lines) and were each seemingly ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 22:01:45; shinohai: First time I had seen that happen, but I've only been here since June.
pete_dushenski: more intelligent to boot, and yet both of whom left in pretty fiery blazes, compared to btcdrak and heysteve who were both relatively quiet and relatively useless and whose lack of presence won't even be a blip on the radar.
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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340704 << ikr :D ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 00:38:27; mircea_popescu: that exahash bet is interesting huh.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340725 << too subtle for this crowd :P ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 00:51:10; mircea_popescu: one of my more absconse private jokes to date!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00047718 = 25.7677 BTC [+] {4}
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340815 << let's say we revisit this when your we've both eschewed meat-chauffeurs for robo-chauffeurs. deal ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 03:44:18; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340387 << how jaded must i be that i didn't even bat an eyelash at this death warrant. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 15:20:15; deedbot-: [Trilema] There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. - http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/
pete_dushenski: seriously, it's totally fucking reasonable !
pete_dushenski: if a bit public, but hey, different strokes...
pete_dushenski: some warrants are probably better served privately, some publicly ☟︎
pete_dushenski: this one, we'll see.
pete_dushenski: but really, not that big a deal guys.
pete_dushenski: the only reason that ex-kgb dudes a la putin and aliyev rule the roost today is because, after socialism "surprisingly" fell, they both a) had a strong wot, and b) were willing to kill when the time came.
pete_dushenski: this isn't backyard cowboys and indians. your mom isn't calling you for dinner only for you to call back "just 5 more minutes mom! i have to catch this redskin!"
pete_dushenski: wtf kind of war doesn't have the losers hung up for their crimes ? what is this, counter strike ? "oh, i'll just respawn and no big deal!" ??
pete_dushenski: don't think so. the digital arena changes some aspects of conflict, but not death. there's no avoiding physical death.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340427 << i can't claim to have any such information. for all i know, it's his morning paper ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 17:16:26; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340205 << from http://violentmetaphors.com/2015/08/14/good-science-communication-means-never-calling-them-retard-even-if-youre-nassim-taleb/ and do we actually know taleb's NOT reading b-a ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/08/the-new-morning-paper/ << hehe. actually mentions leah mcgrath goodman. o time machine, will your wonders never cease ?
assbot: The New Morning Paper | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRhbcH )
pete_dushenski: speaking of time machines, i'm looking to have contravex printed into a book. anyone have any experience with http://www.blog2print.com/ ? ☟︎
assbot: blog2print | Turn your blog into a timeless treasure ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRhpjU )
pete_dushenski: other suggestions and experiences are welcome
BingoBoingo: What, you aren't going to commision a sefer contravex?
pete_dushenski: what am i, bitcoin rich ?
BingoBoingo: I though you were both a man of the tribe and of style.
pete_dushenski: speaking of which, happy 5th night of channukah !!
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: don't let the contravex header fool you.
BingoBoingo: Well, if that's a fraud you can drop the standard down to "ebay sefer"
pete_dushenski: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-jewishvoters-idUSKBN0TT01K20151210 << speaking of dumb jooz.
assbot: Trump's anti-Muslim plans scramble Republican appeals to Jewish voters| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1RHZ3I7 )
pete_dushenski: "“The Jewish community, collectively, has that institutional memory, and institutional scars from previous events in history where a group based solely on religion was persecuted,” said Lee Cowen, a Republican strategist, adding that Trump was damaging the party." ☟︎
pete_dushenski: '“They are very weary of somebody repeating the same kind of rhetoric but just changing the name of the religion.” "
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pete_dushenski: hey joopublican, where's your fucking head ? blending it and singing koombaya ain't gonna cut it. time to find a scapegoat that isn't you, neh ?
pete_dushenski: s/it/in
BingoBoingo: http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a27567/two-thirds-of-early-tesla-model-s/
assbot: Report: Two-Thirds of Early Tesla Model S Drivetrains May Fail At 60,000 Miles ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRiSGW )
pete_dushenski: waitwut ? you mean nihil fit ex nihilo and musk is just a bezzle-gobbling queen extraordinaire ?? no....
BingoBoingo: Turns out instead of throwing away $60k on a Tesla the actual envrionmentally friendly thing to do is spend $3k on a Saturn L-series in servicable condition
pete_dushenski: or a serviceable merc !
pete_dushenski: what's more environmentally friendly than a car that's in the shop one day in 10 ? think of all the walking and bicycling !
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: But what happens when shopping carts and scooty puffs hit the side of the merc? Plastic body panels ftw
pete_dushenski: well, steel's pretty tough. and no one in their right mind gives a shit about 25-year-old paint.
BingoBoingo: What, I still care about 12 year old paint.
pete_dushenski: of course you do, in the same way that most dudes care about 18 yo filles, and couldn't care less about 26 yo ones.
pete_dushenski: 36*
pete_dushenski: double the age is less than half the shits given !
pete_dushenski: exponential decay.
pete_dushenski: or at least non-linear.
BingoBoingo: Well I'm prolly repainting the plastic wheel covers black this spring as a solution to the dilema of "just roll steelies" or find a set of used aluminium rims.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21443 @ 0.00047223 = 10.126 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.02206v2.pdf << for 'quantum computing' enthusiasts in the crowd.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRnCfA )
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 427.5, vol: 10346.59141397 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 10447.25285 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 429.87, vol: 24843.01679647 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 0.1398 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 437.594049, vol: 101187.02640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 425.74398, vol: 281.50954696 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 420.584247, vol: 58.43446254 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 434.301991331
pete_dushenski: http://roadstorome.moovellab.com/images/eu_rome_web@2x.jpg << all roads lead to rome.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXZa03 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.00048221 = 25.4848 BTC [+] {2}
pete_dushenski: all 486`713 of them.
BingoBoingo: I can assure you that IL 127 while covering substantial distance does not.
pete_dushenski: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV3rOTCWwAAakB-.jpg:large << so green that macri, vw hybrid !
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HXZAn9 )
pete_dushenski: "just three months after so much hype and so much love went into Mr. Colbert’s debut as the new host of Late Night, the former Comedy Central star has somehow fallen into 4th place where it matters most. In the all-important demo, he’s now being doubled up (and then some) by NBC’s Jimmy Fallon (outscored by 137 percent) and hasn’t beaten ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel in over a month. But here’s where CBS brass
pete_dushenski: is likely doing a double-take: During the week of November 23-27, the 11:35 PM Late Show on CBS was beaten by Seth Meyers, who happens to be on one hour later (12:35 PM) on the Peacock."
pete_dushenski: ^it must suck to be a fake person who now has to pretend to be a real person.
pete_dushenski: hey colbert, go back to being a metatard or something.
BingoBoingo: http://epmonthly.com/article/praxbind-in-practice/ << lol replacing warfain with pradaxa means instead of simple vitamin k as an antidote you need an expensive ass monoclonal!
assbot: Praxbind in Practice - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRptkB )
pete_dushenski: but i guess that's what cbs gets for trying to appeal to redditards and gen xers.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You mean people who don't really watch tv on tc
BingoBoingo: *tv
pete_dushenski: pretty much those ones, ya.
BingoBoingo: "Patients are to be treated with 5 g of intravenous idarucizumab, which should be administered as two 50-ml bolus infusions, each containing 2.5 g of idarucizumab, no more than 15 minutes apart" << Damn. Whole entire fucking GRAMS of monoclonal antibody.
BingoBoingo: "The U.S. price for the recommended 5 g dose of idarucizumab is $3500. This figure does not include the hospital charge to the patient" << This is how Obamacare really dies, because 5 grams of a monoclonal isn't selling for $3500 very long after approval.
BingoBoingo: Every physician burned by Obamacare can keep warfarin for their self pays and pradaxa for medicaid. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://epmonthly.com/article/iv-acetaminophen-here-today-gone-tomorrow/ << Because this is how they cycle works. Cool treatment found, cool treatment priced out of niche.
assbot: IV Acetaminophen: Here Today, Gone Tomorrow - Emergency Physicians Monthly ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRqiKf )
BingoBoingo: "Not any more. It seems the manufacturer, as a result of its actions, has decided to effectively kill the use of their drug. At $35 a dose, nobody is going to use it in the ED and hospital pharmacy committees are going to sharply restrict the use of the IV version of the drug to the point of extinction. As well they should." << Note economics is only possible when there are alternatived like dilaudid.
BingoBoingo: gavin@xtcoin.com >> http://qntra.net/2015/12/after-xt-failure-gavin-andresen-supports-jim-crow-for-signatures-on-the-blockchain/#comment-81924
assbot: After XT Failure Gavin Andresen Supports Jim Crow For Signatures On The Blockchain | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRr0Hy )
adlai: a properly done segwit softfork could actually result in a blocksize decrease for the non-segwit blockchain ☟︎
adlai: turns voting for block size increases into betting that miners do full validation
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1233/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jul-2016/#b15
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48413 @ 0.00048246 = 23.3573 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00048431 = 3.6808 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00047673 = 4.5766 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15225 @ 0.00048432 = 7.3738 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30078 @ 0.00048293 = 14.5256 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4324 @ 0.00047673 = 2.0614 BTC [-] {2}
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.btcdrak.-1:7a99b5604140240f3bde39aa74532602c1d089f1430d1b53f035e5bab5a945d7
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for btcdrak with note: thinks order can be imposed upon bidirectional polycyclic graphs
adlai: !v assbot:adlai.rate.mircea_popescu.4:c65518def1d265e28d6b4bf39d6f03295e0761df783cca9065c4c6a6c639c74f
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 4 for mircea_popescu with note: highly educational, taught me not to trust text, signed or otherwise
adlai: too much energy is wasted by idiots equating read and print with eval
adlai: and even more - by those that loop!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00048062 = 11.3426 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: adlai dude. what ?!
mircea_popescu: !up Edgan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74525 @ 0.00047984 = 35.7601 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: loller who the fuck are those derps ?
mircea_popescu: there exists exactly one billionaire involved in bitcoin, what the fuck are they smoking ?
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDeskhttps://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDesk << o look, the derps made their own moiety. nice going on copying #b-a two years later lol. ☟︎
assbot: Twitter / ? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NKnItS )
mircea_popescu: somehow i'm willing to bet it's a dude tho.
punkman: "I don't know MP. Can't inform. But I agree. Anything touches sipa, I'll contribute to ensure MP is gone." such threats
punkman: https://twitter.com/breadwalletapp/status/659405765715738624
mircea_popescu: o look at that, otc still exists.
mircea_popescu: mmmkay.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340827 << except when it does. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 03:49:06; asciilifeform: sorta how you can flush your own toilet, and the outcome does not depend on the result of me flushing mine
adlai: if everybody flushes their toilets at once, the tide goes out. you can't explain that.
mircea_popescu: this example happens to get at the core of my misgivings about the model (which yes, is as seductive and great and promise-y as ben intuits, sure) : while the theoretical machine may have all the nice properties,
mircea_popescu: the practical implementation promises from experience to create the undebuggable situation where the dumb blonde in 7a flushed her diafragm and now the results of your flushing will be a bathroom flood.
mircea_popescu: "why did function flush return flood ???" "uh... it's not supposed to do that" "no shit" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and whatever enthusiasm may tell you about this, there's a very fucking fundamental problem here. you don't get to control backflow and complex emergent behaviours just because you don't want to think about them ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which is why all plumbing is full of cockroaches and all sewage has rats nests.
mircea_popescu: to comprehend how fundamental this all is, look at a leaky toilet sometime, or any flow on an incline. you should be able to observe regions moving UPSTREAM. "oh it's not supposed to do that" "said who ?" "newton". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure. ask t von karman. he knows.
mircea_popescu: he asked fucking god!
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340993 <<< the lulz "Anything touches sipa, I'll contribute to ensure MP is gone." ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 13:45:29; mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDeskhttps://twitter.com/BitcoinHelpDesk << o look, the derps made their own moiety. nice going on copying #b-a two years later lol.
mircea_popescu: conveniently omits to mention WHAT the fuck he'll contribute
mircea_popescu: which makes me suspect it'll be "raising awareness" on his dozen-followers twitter.
shinohai: I'm going to make a snarky remark.
mircea_popescu: derps accusing me of "seeking attention", when i own their mother, in a fucking trasnparent ploy to seek attention. herpitty-derp.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340864 << womenz in tech. they think the dumbass shit works, because if there\'s nothing she's more affraid of than confronting the dumb blonde bitch in 11th grade, then CERTAINLY should she one day do it the fucking earth orbit will change. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 06:11:19; ben_vulpes: "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha
mircea_popescu: !up chmod755
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340893 << it's easy when you're in a cult! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 07:14:22; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340387 << how jaded must i be that i didn't even bat an eyelash at this death warrant.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9391 @ 0.00048062 = 4.5135 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/CNsNN << pretty lulzy thinking tho. "how dares this mp guy act independently! this should not exist! i will call upon my liege lords to efface this abomination from the face of the earth - if not in reality then at least from the earth as i can see it. for it bothers me so."
assbot: Bitcoin Assistant on Twitter: "@lopp @oleganza @qntra Jameson, did you see this? https://t.co/W1pu0x1G6b Popescu needs to be reported to local police." ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmI7l6 )
mircea_popescu: i guess if you took a vote among the domesticated ducks, they'd agree wild ducks must either be all shot or else a ceiling put over the village. ☟︎
adlai: lol 'local'
adlai: whatever happened to interpol? TSA? AMA?
mircea_popescu: ill tell you what happened
adlai: i guess 'local police' in the average american locallity includes enough armored vehicles to get mistaken for authority
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=553092.0
assbot: MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y2533p )
mircea_popescu: they... expired.
adlai: one of the nice things about living in a hellhole with discernible "bad guys" is that swatting just doesn't exist ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what hellhole is that ? israel ?
adlai: V
mircea_popescu: yeah but on the other hand the only place i was ever actually bombed in was jerusalem.
adlai: what's the relevance of this BCT link?
mircea_popescu: they missed me by two weeks in cairo
mircea_popescu: adlai back in 2013 or w/e they were hoping for interpol / tsa / ama. it... fizzled
mircea_popescu: now moved on to "local police!!"
mircea_popescu: i suppose by 2018 it will be samuel l jackson and the lord our god.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00048573 = 28.8524 BTC [+] {5}
adlai: ;;google pray to george pesci
gribble: Quote by George Carlin: “You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/235415-you-know-who-i-pray-to-joe-pesci-two-reasons>; George Carlin on Religion and God - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo>; Positive Atheism's Big List of George Carlin Quotations: <http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/carlin.htm>
mircea_popescu: chuck norris seems to have gone the way of the superman
adlai lols at his thinko
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341005 << i picked the analogy quite deliberately. because not only is digital electronics a simplified world riding on top of analogue, but the entire lumped-element model is likewise 'a lie' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 13:59:01; mircea_popescu: "why did function flush return flood ???" "uh... it's not supposed to do that" "no shit"
mircea_popescu: aha. good pick.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341006 << buuuut we do have a very few abstractions that work. witness how you never have to debug your cpu ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 13:59:46; mircea_popescu: and whatever enthusiasm may tell you about this, there's a very fucking fundamental problem here. you don't get to control backflow and complex emergent behaviours just because you don't want to think about them
asciilifeform: 's alu
mircea_popescu: the REASON i never have do debug my cpu, my very dear alf
mircea_popescu: IS the reason you keep complaining about it.
mircea_popescu: if FOSS had a hand in it, i'd buy 10k cpus every time i wanted to make a working station.
mircea_popescu: like fucking kv-1 spare parts.
asciilifeform: before usg is through, we WILL have sov-style disposable cpu.
asciilifeform: witness the 'organic LED' panel.
asciilifeform: it is good for roughly 5 yrs. of service.
asciilifeform: (the elements have a half-life of sorts)
mircea_popescu: maybe. not so convinced. /me got an old ipad for his game research a year ago. ipad 2. retina display. shit still works 100% no dead pixels no nothing.
mircea_popescu: !up nickeem
asciilifeform: no oled in ipad!!
asciilifeform: yet.
asciilifeform: so far it's mostly in korean turdroid items
adlai: is the ipad still anything beyond a consumption endpoint for the Apple, Inc. store?
mircea_popescu: nope.
asciilifeform: adlai: it comes with a www browser. so sorta like a dumb terminal.
mircea_popescu: well you could root it, obv, if oyu cared for a shitty pentium 2 in the house.
mircea_popescu: but i mostly used it specifically to review the store.
adlai: the debate is about bitcoin in c++ or cl, not js
mircea_popescu: because hey, it's crapple universe, they have all the scholarly achievement of a dead congolese stray dog.
mircea_popescu: not like you can read any sort of anything about it, either you do the experiments yourself or else fu you never know.
mircea_popescu: !up dbclk
adlai would vote for ada but wouldn't have any insider knowledge to make that a rational bet
asciilifeform: adlai: it isn't a 'vote' subject, it's a somebody-giving-enough-of-a-shit one
adlai: one competent bookie away from being a vote.
asciilifeform: l0l
adlai: cf "s.nsa delivers before op's bones turn into grey goo"
adlai: the only econ that's "advertising" to is.you.
asciilifeform lacks the correct lsd to process this
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341025 << see the old logz re: gaddafi ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 14:44:47; mircea_popescu: i guess if you took a vote among the domesticated ducks, they'd agree wild ducks must either be all shot or else a ceiling put over the village.
mircea_popescu: holy shit... i've.... i've become gaddafi ?!
mircea_popescu: busty nurses and wild hair ?!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2014#573142 << starting there ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2014 17:44:35; asciilifeform: 'When the glorious Muammar Kaddafi, in his blue bournouse, or in his uniform, appear on the telly, the domesticated inhabitant of the sanitaria jerks from fright. 'Monster,' 'terrorist,' 'evildoer,' public enemy number one - the media calls him, led by its disdain for all that is envigorating (and, on top of it all, foreign), and pushed by false information supplied by CIA... ...his very existence is
adlai: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-12-2015#1337423 could've bought hardware rather than hedgeware ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-12-2015 17:28:06; deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 24.99980000 BTC on 'No' - Cardano to Ship in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#b18
adlai: there's your lsd, let's hope christmas comes early on the next bet :)
asciilifeform: adlai actually thought i had anything to do with the bet ?
asciilifeform: lulzy
asciilifeform: afaik not even my organs, and the rest of the meat cured as sausage, is worth 25 b.
adlai said this?
mircea_popescu: in other symbolic news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c87e9924b8a8854437224d6719723d68/tumblr_mftuk9O1UC1rzf0y9o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y280AY )
adlai: generally the targets of advertisement have nothing "to do witch" its content, funding, placement, etc
asciilifeform: adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ? ☟︎
adlai: yes
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341008 << to round this off, fortunately there is no straight analogue of this in solid state physics. but there is 1) the various forms of intrinsic noise and 2) the failures of the lumped element model as a whole ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 14:01:19; mircea_popescu: to comprehend how fundamental this all is, look at a leaky toilet sometime, or any flow on an incline. you should be able to observe regions moving UPSTREAM. "oh it's not supposed to do that" "said who ?" "newton".
asciilifeform: 2 is a serious boojum to folks still trying to moore's law
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: as is 1 (which is the ultimate gravestone on said 'law')
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341033 << afaik it exists strictly in usa ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 14:49:31; adlai: one of the nice things about living in a hellhole with discernible "bad guys" is that swatting just doesn't exist
adlai is open to suggestions of *sane* blogware
adlai: but wouldn't you rather i write lisp instead of englith?
asciilifeform: adlai: specifically, a lengthy and fully-formed thought, like what you were trying to describe earlier, belongs in a proper post
adlai: but all the cool kids are whiping taters!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00048807 = 8.0776 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: adlai: best blogware is probably rolling something using cl-markup or the like.
mircea_popescu: maybe ben_vulpes wants to share his flatfile thing
mircea_popescu: wordpress can be used, requires extensive neutering
asciilifeform: if you don't need the comments thing, best 'blogware' is prolly still... handwritten html
mircea_popescu is amusing at the thought that the "fuck you, apparently gotta maintain an old version of everything one intends to use" did not start with bitcoin. but with wordpress.
adlai: trinque: you're missing a "the product of", which excludes that from being an answer to the question as conceived in the author's mind :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik it began with gcc
asciilifeform: at least here on ~my~ planet
mircea_popescu: well was talking mine.
trinque: adlai: finefine
mircea_popescu 's interest in programming has been remote for many years, pre-btc
adlai: last i checked, bitcoin restricts us to cohabiting the same planet...
asciilifeform: adlai: restricts ~bitcoin users~, aha
adlai finds alf reminiscent of the local crazy this-guy-must-be-a-plant who claims to only own 1.8 btc, for retirement
adlai: although he lacks your way with silicon
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":387880} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":79102380900.22598} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
adlai: bwaha
mircea_popescu: o.O
asciilifeform: div by 0 ?
adlai: we're at an estimated 647
asciilifeform: this is not the normal format, either
asciilifeform: e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340438 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 17:22:16; gribble: Current Blocks: 387713 | Current Difficulty: 7.910238090022598E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 389087 | Next Difficulty In: 1374 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: nanotube ^ seems gribble got the boo-boo.
adlai was estimating short-term hashes-per-second, which is what's relevant for bitbet mods and addicts
asciilifeform: ;;nethash
gribble: 750033016.336
adlai: O.o
adlai: arrise, chinese chikkun!
asciilifeform: usgineze
adlai: it's all the peter pans staying forever 21
adlai: warmblooded-humans-running-miners metric remains on "2TH/s, sitting on the table in front of me, gathering dust"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340897 << a private warrant ?! where are you from, louis' court ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 07:15:24; pete_dushenski: some warrants are probably better served privately, some publicly
adlai hopes for sipa's sake that bitcoin's fiat value remains lower than his paranoia threshhold
adlai: now here's an interesting bet, albeit longer than any human (as opposed to econ) bookie to float: the size of pot which triggers the first assasination
mircea_popescu: either that or that the value of bitcoin actually motivates him to start actually thinking about things, for the first time in his life.
kakobrekla: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-lin-10k.png < off the chart, literally
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y2crfk )
mircea_popescu: this "nothing can ever happen" thing that everyone wants to bake in the axioms is exactly the castration limonov discusses.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha, one of the larger jumps in history.
mircea_popescu: if the 2-3 day estimate actually gets supported, it will be the largest jump in hsitory.
mircea_popescu: hay mas futuro!
adlai: call me when it's over 4x :P
mircea_popescu: lol. yeah, in relative terms its hard ot beat 2009-2010
adlai: "we must hardfork the window-squaring to keep out the anarcho-communist enemy!"
mircea_popescu: actusally more like 2009 and 2011
mircea_popescu: 2010 was kinda dead iirc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340919 << holy shit they're doing it backwards. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 07:34:03; pete_dushenski: "“The Jewish community, collectively, has that institutional memory, and institutional scars from previous events in history where a group based solely on religion was persecuted,” said Lee Cowen, a Republican strategist, adding that Trump was damaging the party."
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is wrong with these people!
mircea_popescu: if they were after eastern european votes they'd be going "support a stronger usg because you as a group have the institutional memory to show what a great idea a soviet union is, and the scars to prove it!"
mircea_popescu: fucktards.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how the niggers can stand themselves. it sure as fuck galls me, and i don't even live there. here sits Lee Cowen, re-interpreting history for his fellow jews, according to what lenin said ?
mircea_popescu: motherfucker...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340908 << i have no idea about the outfit in question, other than being quite obviously part of a venerable scam, so old it's even monographed by balzac. if you actually want to print your blog, get yourself latex, make it spit out printer files ; find a local printer with a web press, see what's the lowest they'll take in run overhead (should be 1-2k or so) and do a run. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 07:27:09; pete_dushenski: speaking of time machines, i'm looking to have contravex printed into a book. anyone have any experience with http://www.blog2print.com/ ?
mircea_popescu: make sure you pick layflat binding.
mircea_popescu: total waste of trees, but if you want to get the veblen good, get the actual fucking veblen good rather than some plastic mass market replacement. nobody of the old jews you're trying to impress is going to give a shit about your book ; they WILL however notice that your thing comes off a web press not a pod outfit, and that'll scare the everliving shit out of them.
mircea_popescu: or at any rate, it's the sort of thing i've been doing to petrify the adults ever since i was about i dunno, 5. ymmv.
mircea_popescu: !up chmod755 ☟︎
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341100 <<< if i had to choose a singular event that fully kindled my nihilism, it would be studying nonlinear dynamics in depth ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 15:11:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341008 << to round this off, fortunately there is no straight analogue of this in solid state physics. but there is 1) the various forms of intrinsic noise and 2) the failures of the lumped element model as a whole
nubbins`: "my god, it's full of stars" but w/ little poop vortices or w/e instead
mircea_popescu: StyleIncludesPrice (extra pages are $0.45)
mircea_popescu: Softcover Book20 Pages$19.95
mircea_popescu: Hardcover Book (laminated picture cover)20 Pages$34.95
mircea_popescu: ahahaha omfg.
mircea_popescu: Deluxe Book (cloth-bound cover w/dust jacket)20 Pages$39.95
mircea_popescu: PDFUnlimited Pages$8.95
mircea_popescu: shit sherlock...
nubbins`: twenty pages
nubbins`: i'd make a thousand copies for cheaper than that, and they'd be printed by hand
nubbins`: TYL offset printing is expensive
mircea_popescu: this isn't offset even.
nubbins`: and 1-2k is not "quantity"
nubbins`: o?
nubbins`: digital print? zzz
mircea_popescu: some random scam your favourite b-a resident drag up
nubbins`: 430-page limit!
nubbins`: TBF there's nothing inherently wrong with digitally-printed books, if having the book stand the test of time isn't a requirement
mircea_popescu: in this sense there's nothing wrong with having randi suckerberg sitting on a board of directors,
mircea_popescu: if the board doing any useful work whatsoever isn't a requirement
nubbins`: ;)
mircea_popescu: awww, colbert's not funny ?! who knew! ☟︎
nubbins`: fuck, print it on newspaper
nubbins`: or blow yr wad: http://www.lumierepress.com/pages/making%20the%20book/chrono.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NghiBo )
adlai: ./ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341173 "am i doin dis rite", or "you keep using that !up, i'm not sure it means what you think it does" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 15:54:13; mircea_popescu: !up chmod755
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340966 <<< you're pretty much exactly correct, i think. that's how it dies. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 08:34:28; BingoBoingo: Every physician burned by Obamacare can keep warfarin for their self pays and pradaxa for medicaid.
mircea_popescu: same old "oh, you want to be the big man mr govt ? go chew out that yonder mountain!"
adlai: nubbins`: in my chain, "digital print" means i can read it off a node
mircea_popescu: adlai dude's been pming me.
adlai: ah lol
mircea_popescu: apparently the entire "you can't have private conversations with people you don't know" thing is just too hard for the average intuition.
nubbins`: adlai traditionally in the art world, people like to refer to inkjet prints as "giclee"
adlai has no idea what you're talking about, officah
nubbins`: from the french, "to squirt jizz"
nubbins`: because that's the worth of an inkjet print
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340972 << and if it does, it ALSO turns bitcoin into a scam, for the off-chain people who [were led to] believe they are dealing in bitcoin while really all they got is bitcoin'. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 08:41:57; adlai: a properly done segwit softfork could actually result in a blocksize decrease for the non-segwit blockchain
mircea_popescu: nubbins` no, giclee was an actual thing. back before the americans got involved.
mircea_popescu used to do art photography, made and sold actual prints etc.
nubbins`: yep and the actual thing was -- a fancy inkjet printer.
nubbins`: full stop.
mircea_popescu: not really, no.
nubbins` nods
nubbins`: really, yep
mircea_popescu: in this sense, you're a fancy woman.
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: i don't even have the same parts
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: hey, you got lungs and a liver, so...
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: but in total seriousness, giclee was originally meant to specifically refer to printouts from IRIS brand printers
nubbins`: which were... inkjets.
nubbins`: (micro piezo heads instead of shit "bubble jet" heads -- the spirit of IRIS lives on in Epson printers today)
adlai: mircea_popescu: that's why you call it a segradoodled addroose, instead of bitcoin
nubbins`: micro piezo = voltage-controlled ink density
mircea_popescu: anyway. the machine used, an iris printer, uses fine glass rods under high pressure, which print continuously.
adlai: the Sufficiently Smart Econ should be able to tell them apart
mircea_popescu: there is SOME similarity with inkjet, exactly of the nature of nubbins` womanhood.
adlai: humans are another story, but they're allowed to fend for themselves
mircea_popescu: nubbins` right. you ever seen either the thing or its output ?
mircea_popescu: the damned thing worked in the mhz, not the khz stuff epson piezo does
mircea_popescu: (not that even so reduced it's visibly better than the other inkjets)
nubbins`: now we're measuring intercourse by the speed of thrusts?
mircea_popescu: no, we're measuring fine-ness by the... fine-ness!
nubbins`: anyway you're correct, turns out IRIS printers use electrostatic too
mircea_popescu: anyway. plenty of people who saw the item and its products actually blew the 100k or w/e it cost (ie, the cost of like a dozen houses in the us at the time)
mircea_popescu: because it actually was that good.
nubbins` nods
nubbins`: have seen "authentic" giclees, they're a rare bird these days
mircea_popescu: anyway. my abandoning the entire "art photography" thing is pretty much in step with iris' demise as a thing.
nubbins`: iirc epson picked up the fine-art slack when IRIS declined
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i do mean fresh tho
mircea_popescu: the unfortunate thing with them is that 10 yr is not the same as 10 hr.
adlai: ok, candidate #2: "I don't know what language it'll be in, but by the time trb prints a code, it'll be with sticks and stones"
nubbins`: yeah
nubbins`: ink longevity has come a long way since then too
mircea_popescu: couirse we didn't really know this in the 90s
mircea_popescu: imo the entire giclee thing is how we fdound out.
nubbins` uses dye inks rather than pigments, (perhaps foolishly) choosing gamut over lightfastness
mircea_popescu: yeah welll....
nubbins`: gamut and color accuracy over lightfastness, even.
mircea_popescu: in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print ☟︎
nubbins`: but TBF the only things i actually digitally-print end up sandwiched between book covers
mircea_popescu: which faded.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu +1
nubbins`: i occasionally silkscreen posters for outdoor usage; imagine my pride upon discovering, in late April, a poster I'd adhered to an outdoor pole in early november
nubbins`: still immaculately vibrant after spending an entire Canadian winter outdoors
nubbins`: and i mean the black was still JET fucking black.
nubbins` has moved onto "automotive grade" urethane-based inks for fine art prints
adlai has a foaf who nubbins`ed out of 'industrial design' into bending neon signs by hand
nubbins`: ID will give you ED. smart fella
nubbins` has never experienced such low cortisol levels as those he's consistently enjoyed since Feb 2013
adlai got another followup to a job interview thread, and honestly doesn't know whether its worth picking up
adlai: ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs ☟︎
nubbins`: "wanted: someone less stupid than me"
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg13216402#msg13216402 in which nubs emphasizes the importance of pedigree
assbot: [WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj4ptQ )
adlai spends his play arms length away from a pedigree-free half-btc casascoin
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> "wanted: someone less stupid than me" << no joke.
adlai: it's fun to toss between palms but not good for much else
nubbins`: i peeled a casascius coin once, fleeting sense of exhilaration
thestringpuller: i haven't peeled teh casascius coin i bought int 2012
nubbins`: tbh you're not missing much
nubbins`: i only have like nine of these fuckers left
mircea_popescu: in system design news, here's a good metaphore for os : http://40.media.tumblr.com/2d9ed53986ac1903da784fa9071c1495/tumblr_mftqw37zm61riedhko1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj4MVo )
nubbins` will likely sell 3-4 more and hoard remainder forever
nubbins`: altho people buying privately-minted silver rounds for > 9000 is hard to resist
nubbins`: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3wdq1s/as_a_journalist_its_harder_to_use_rbitcoin_for/
assbot: As a journalist, it's harder to use /r/bitcoin for story sources when the comment scores are hidden. I used to use the comments for additional information, but now I don't know which have been highly vetted, and which haven't. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFCwdq )
nubbins`: elelel.
nubbins`: "as a journalist" (username the_daily_decrypt), i am 100% unable to categorize new information as "bullshit" or "worthy"
adlai must lack the right lsd for comment scores to be hidden, or for that matter, matter
adlai: if i had a cent for each time a new mod asked how to undisable downvotes in custom css, i wouldn't need to open my own quadlemma!
trinque: you mean like... enable?
adlai: many subreddits disable the downvote link using custom css, you can still downvote but Web 2.0 won't let you know
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: srsly just style="visibility:hidden;"?
nubbins`: platform of tomorrow!
adlai never investigated far enough to tell, but the "use custom css" uncheckbox overcomes it
trinque: ah the dissonance between "democracy works" and "don't judge me; we're all equal"
trinque flies his buttered toast ship to the coffee pot
adlai: just wait, someday they'll beg to buy ballots on the open market and nobody will take their tainted covenantcoins
nubbins` flies his rolling hands to the girl scout cookies ship
nubbins`: that whooshing is everyone except vexual missing the joke
adlai: and how do you know he got it?
nubbins`: satoshi doesn't miss much
adlai: that whooshing is everyone except gwern getting the joke
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> srsly just style="visibility:hidden;"? << you're out of line!
fluffypony: adlai: you can disable subreddit styles, and mobile clients like Alien Blue ignore styling anyway
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18115 @ 0.00048861 = 8.8512 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: so I think it's more to "encourage unity" or something equally stupid
adlai: did i say to leave the uncheck unboxed?
fluffypony can't parse that sentence
fluffypony: not enough wine
adlai: !b 16 ✂︎
assbot: Last 16 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RYW9PA.txt )
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/max29x << random guy that's handspamming trilema.
assbot: max (@max29x) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qj7aLL )
mircea_popescu: i guess selling bestiality must be hard given that... nobody cares.
mircea_popescu: yet supposedly there's goldsteins out there making billions out of selling child porn, an item about as highly demanded as bestiality.
mircea_popescu: the wonders of overgrown states.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50450 @ 0.00048109 = 24.271 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25307 @ 0.00047822 = 12.1023 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://www.tvnewsinsider.com/story/fla-station-airs-vulgar-version-of-government-logo
assbot: 'Fla. station airs vulgar version of government logo' on TVNewsInsider ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFJy1O )
ascii_field: 'WBBH-TV, the NBC affiliate in Ft. Myers, Fla. aired what it thought was the Department of Homeland Security seal but turned out to be a doctored image with a vulgar hidden meaning...'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00047822 = 20.9939 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341260 << was it uv ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:23:13; mircea_popescu: in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print
ascii_field: (if it was - then the decay rate was quite easy to test from day 1)
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341272 << when ad mentions a programming lang - yes ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:29:47; adlai: ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs
adlai: anything identifiable enough to be mentioned in a job posting is probably also a dealbreaker for thinking brains
ascii_field: 'All the type at Lumiere Press is cast in lead on a 1950s Intertype machine model C-4. It is a wondrous machine whose precursor, the Linotype, was invented in 1886.'
ascii_field: neato
ascii_field: but why only 1 level of retro
ascii_field: why not print on gutenberg press.
nubbins`: !up ascii_field
nubbins`: prob du8e8 t8o u8na8va8ila8bili8ty8 9)888
nubbins`: aka the day nubs' 8 key stuck
nubbins` spilled a coffee on macbook some months ago
nubbins`: ascii_field i have a friend who's "into" religion (anthro style), has a reproduction of 1st edition gutenberg bible
nubbins`: so, so, so many errors
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b30
nubbins`: blank pages, garbled type, erroneous symbols in margins, whole works
nubbins` imagines that "so" works in finance and lurks in #b-a so computer can beep and bloop & make it appear like he's working
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://www.rt.com/news/325593-fast-neutron-nuclear-reactor
assbot: World’s most powerful fast neutron reactor starts supplying electricity to grid — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYQCGd )
adlai: now that's a market to bet on
adlai: consensus, made in china
adlai: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/190597?p=ws_hacked&rd=1 censorship, californicated
assbot: "This site may be hacked" message - Search Help ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYRv1v )
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/littoral-combat-ships-mine-hunting-drones-cant-find-mines-pentagon-finds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Gcaptain+%28gCaptain.com%29
assbot: Littoral Combat Ships' Mine-Hunting Drones Can't Find Mines, Pentagon Finds - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYS4bK )
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 864000000/54
gribble: 16000000
adlai: more from the "expensive signals to fake" department: the S.MPOE inverse correlation with btcfiat continues to decrease
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37421 @ 0.00047807 = 17.8899 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: in old icebox news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/973d6391b95bd5584e86b75c7eba02bb/tumblr_mgfjk2QT7z1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYUdEa )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39972 @ 0.00048029 = 19.1982 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: sooo nubbins` : just had blt ranchero with some absolutely splendid kimchi
mircea_popescu: bought from korean fambly in b-a chinatown.
mircea_popescu: other interesting things from chinatown : gran masala because wtf is this garam thing, and ciruelas bombom
mircea_popescu: because whatever, sweet drops, woman's buns, same diff.
nubbins`: i should make more kimchi
nubbins`: only imported/canned available locally
mircea_popescu: epic stuff.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29351 @ 0.00047794 = 14.028 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other lolz, https://blockchain.info/tx/85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905?show_adv=true ☟︎
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ue1KRa )
mircea_popescu: not even two cents' worth of opining ;/
mircea_popescu: in other news, million euro in jools stolen from high ticket store right across from hollande's office.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341371 <<< redditard spent his entire btc stash just to say that? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 19:41:55; mircea_popescu: in other lolz, https://blockchain.info/tx/85596cf32b2d6f0d09b21a565c0f69a6472e1055c6fcfa603ce5c8c067b45905?show_adv=true
adlai is disappointed they didn't even take the time to use deeddust in the spray cannisters
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341360 << holy shit is that a zil ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 19:01:59; mircea_popescu: in old icebox news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/973d6391b95bd5584e86b75c7eba02bb/tumblr_mgfjk2QT7z1r87wz9o1_1280.jpg
ascii_field: ;;nethash
gribble: 733459348.999
ascii_field wonders about the legendary inflection point where we start seeing airstrikes on miner positions
adlai: that'd be a better backdrop to the end of fight club
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 450.0, vol: 24395.95536187 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 441.998, vol: 17369.13253 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 453.1, vol: 59026.92197416 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 430.0, vol: 1.16258652 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 461.745, vol: 126519.11020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 445.0, vol: 462.85897408 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 445.2559006, vol: 131.28067782 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 456.700128229
kakobrekla: ascii_field> https://www.rt.com/news/325593-fast-neutron-nuclear-reactor < https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.12/original/566a999cc46188a81d8b4603.jpg , runs win xp
assbot: World’s most powerful fast neutron reactor starts supplying electricity to grid — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYQCGd )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UefY4s )
ascii_field: kakobrekla: aha!
ascii_field: surprised ?
nubbins`: khaled mardam-bey is both satoshi and mp
kakobrekla: i guess i am
adlai: !s khaled mardam-bey
assbot: 0 results for 'khaled mardam-bey' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=khaled+mardam-bey
nubbins`: part of my function here is to generate homework
BingoBoingo: http://developers.slashdot.org/story/15/12/11/1915248/ted-cruz-wants-minimum-h-1b-wage-of-110000
assbot: Ted Cruz Wants Minimum H-1B Wage of $110,000 - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKmq1N )
BingoBoingo: Must pay immigrunt moat
danielpbarron: isn't that the mirc guy?
nubbins`: ding ding ding
adlai: what inverse blockheight does he piss from?
ascii_field: l0l betcha he's a mega-realestate hodler
shinohai: Saw this: https://twitter.com/eordano/status/675397298843701249 ,couldn't help but remember: http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/
assbot: Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eCTVVg )
mircea_popescu: ascii_field zil and thou shalt moroze!
ascii_field falls down
mircea_popescu: o look at that, 450!
mircea_popescu: nuddin's hey i don't even use mirc!
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's generally more productive to link derps to trilema than me to derps.
BingoBoingo: So has it officially yet gone from feeling a lot like 2012 to feeling disturbingly like 2012?
nubbins`: mIRCea_popescu
nubbins`: likely story buddy
mircea_popescu: damn
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo bitcoin is for people with a 6mo memory. what is this 2012 you speak of.
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: www.cryptool.org << would be interesting to see a non-retarded version of this (demo tool for students)
ascii_field: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-H-c6s8Dy4nY/VKbxi4SpGvI/AAAAAAAAAAw/aBH2R4cd0jI/s1600/CT2-Beta7b%2BBrute-force%2BKeySearcher.jpg << screenshit
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ6tEO )
ascii_field: http://www.limited-entropy.com << unrelated, pretty spiffy site
assbot: Limited Entropy Dot Com ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ6Dfm )
adlai: signs your OS may be ossifying into usgification: `git svn clone` conjures up KDE Wallet Manager on a separate machine's X display
ascii_field: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3wd59b/whats_the_dodgiest_thing_you_can_do_thats_not/cxvbcl5 << lulzy, 'robosigning'
assbot: reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZ99lQ )
mircea_popescu: soo.... one thing to do if it's hot and you got a buncha spare girls : have them take cold shower by a 5 minute offset, towel off and then make out with pleasantly cool girl for five minutes
mircea_popescu: during an hour +-
mircea_popescu: if you happen to live in argentina you can also get the whole ensemble a la mode.
mircea_popescu: and holy shit that alf link. "You can ask for the Buns of a different sandwich. Most people don't know that. Like get Big Mac buns on a mc double"
mircea_popescu: check it out, the richest country on earth meets restaurants. "what do you mean, i can tell them what i want and they'll get it for me ?!?!?!"
BingoBoingo: lol, as if I care >> "If you have any Add Blockers installed in your browser, you will not be able to see this page as was intended."
BingoBoingo: Related: http://www.stltoday.com/news/ban-on-abortions-because-of-down-syndrome-diagnosis-proposed/article_c0b50a3e-4c2e-5c4d-9e7a-99c0b50c9f49.html
mircea_popescu: derp.
mircea_popescu: what about mandatory abortions for down syndrome.
mircea_popescu: men can't smoke, women can spawn retards ? da fuck backwards world is this.
BingoBoingo: Still related, why would anyone want to be the Uni's chancellor when they can coach? http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/eye-on-the-tigers/mizzou-sets-odom-s-salary-at-million/article_8b64c5de-139e-5918-8abf-c93bf3c0906b.html
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lUWtC0 )
BingoBoingo: "Odom, Mizzou's defensive coordinator this past season, will make a base salary of $450,000, plus a guaranteed non-salary compensation amount of $1,900,000, which covers four areas each paying $475,000: radio appearances, television appearances, apparel rights and public relations and stewardship appearances."
BingoBoingo: Dat upward mobility: "Odom was making $625,000 as Missouri's defensive coordinator. Just four years ago the former Mizzou linebacker was making $200,000 as the Tigers' safeties coach."
adlai: ;;seen psztorc
gribble: psztorc was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 2 days, 17 hours, 13 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <psztorc> Au revoir.
BingoBoingo: Nao to lift mircea_popescu 's mood, police chase aborted http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/state-and-regional/missouri-trooper-injured-by-glass-fragments-during-chase/article_9cda1a09-cf12-5914-8f05-cf63fcb3ee26.html
adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/37FCBKF.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLpc7j )
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: iirc psztorc is being disingenious to backopy, who closed shop due to rocketship ticket purchase, rather than bankrupcy
danielpbarron is in favor of the death penalty for doctors and women who provide and seek abortions
BingoBoingo: If anything more abortions would be a fine thing. It would just be nice if abortions didn't require finding clinics oriented towards correcting one's political health.
adlai is in favor of death penalties for those who are in favor of warrants in all forms - arrest, execution, stock, etc. leads to a 'more polite society'... ☟︎
danielpbarron: aborted babies go to hell
adlai: i'd rather have hell overrun by the cries of aborted "babies" than the anguish of wasted lives
BingoBoingo: aborted babies chill in purgatory with their blade hands.
danielpbarron: there is no purgatory
BingoBoingo: Purgatory is where crossfitters go for being so close and yet so far from following the path of Broseidon.
danielpbarron: I'm all for letting kids play outside and getting hurt, and even if that means the weak ones get killed. But to preemptively murder them, before they can even hurt themselves, and for the mother's convenience (when it is her due punishment to have pains in child bearing as per the fall in the garden of eden), is reprehensible.
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danielpbarron: having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive ☟︎
danielpbarron: http://gotdownsyndrome.blogspot.com/
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funkenstein_: danielpbarron, do condom users also go to "hell"?
mircea_popescu: point remains, if you're going to "ban smoking" because "smoking is bad" you gotta ban down syndrome births.
mircea_popescu: becuse.,.. you guessed it, "down syndrome is bad"
danielpbarron: isn't down syndrome more like obesity, in that it is one step removed from whatever the bad thing is?
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, no
mircea_popescu: not really. it's a congenital defect. as fundamentally broken as it gets.
danielpbarron: at any rate, it's not the choice of anyone that someone has the syndrome is it?
funkenstein_: i guess there's no appeal to logic with fantasy locations transport systems then, surprise surprise
danielpbarron: well I'm not part of the "every sperm is sacred" camp
danielpbarron: not against masturbation either
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well depends how you construe choice.
funkenstein_: how about menstruation? seems to get a bad rep around here
mircea_popescu: but it must be pointed out that as many as 1/3 of all pregnancies are electively aborted by the woman anyway.
mircea_popescu: there's dozens of different mechanisms which dictate spontaneous abortion.
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, what about it? having sex during it should also be punished with execution but other than that..
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mircea_popescu: oral sex or generally ?
danielpbarron: generally
mircea_popescu: handjobs ?
danielpbarron: lol
funkenstein_: "should be punished" <-- lol
mircea_popescu: can the woman rub one off if she's on the rag ?
mircea_popescu: vaguely related http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stefonknee-wolschtt-transgender-father-leaves-family-in-toronto-to-start-new-life-as-a-six-year-old-a6769051.html
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danielpbarron: http://www.atruechurch.info/sexduringmenstruation.html >> You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness as long as she is in her customary impurity. (Leviticus 18:19)
danielpbarron: so i guess that's sorta a no on hand stuff
mircea_popescu: what if she suycks you off dressed ?
funkenstein_: a tradition also practiced by amazonian cultures
mircea_popescu: suppose you sit down to have a meal, there's this great broad at the other table, you seduce her and she sucks you off in the toilet. gotta ask if she's on her period first ?
danielpbarron: can't you just get some head from one of your other wives?
mircea_popescu: well sure you could, it's not a matter of need.
BingoBoingo: What if you skip the wife label entirely and just keep concubines?
mircea_popescu: technically speaking one could just sit down and shut up for the next 50 years. but that doesn't mean one should, necessarily.
danielpbarron: a concubine is a slave wife
mircea_popescu: what, everything is everything else ?!
danielpbarron: in the "great broad" example, it sounds like some sort of adultery or fornication is taking place, or else you would marry her first
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: suppose you mary the entire town first.
mircea_popescu: also, the thing with harems is the chicks synchronize periods.
adlai: this is how he tempts you, for he is jealous of your fleshy posessions from his vaporware cloud hosting
danielpbarron: as someone with zero wives, I don't have much sympathy for the guy who has to take periodic break from sex on account of his whole harem menstruating simultaneously
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funkenstein_: danielpbarron, I'm an ordained minister i'd be happy to marry you remotely
danielpbarron: ordained by who?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron well wait, it gotta be based on principle not how it makes you feel.
funkenstein_: universal life church
BingoBoingo: of Modesto California
mircea_popescu: which one is that one funkenstein_ ?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, it seems to me that the guy with the harem is probably the one tasked with setting the rules for the whole town. So that's that.
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Gotta use that full name to make people know you are srs about it
BingoBoingo: http://ulchq.org
funkenstein_: BingoBoingo, thanks :) indeed
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mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well. ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: granted, eating her out during her period is fucking weird/
mircea_popescu: so blondy ditched your ass then danielpbarron ?
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, probably a false church although I don't know that one in particular
danielpbarron: lol what blondy?
mircea_popescu: what was her name
mircea_popescu: julia!
mircea_popescu: do it to julia!
danielpbarron: i guess so huh
mircea_popescu: tsk tsk.
danielpbarron shrugs
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341460 << ahahahaha sure l0l ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:17:54; danielpbarron: having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive
asciilifeform: tard army! what makes amerikkkka great!11111
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341517 << the only practical issue is overlubrication, really ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:43:49; *: mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well.