BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That thought influenced the title word choice. Can't kill a corpse, but you can still hit it for damage.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing is basically social payments extension. there's a lot of idle schmuycks who expect to get government freebies under the title of "doing" this crap.
mircea_popescu: point of fact remains -- most zeks not useful in any sense. all zeks would still like to eat. this is the conduit through which they get their foodstamps.
trinque: isn't as though they get real food out of it either, just velveeta and fungal breadlike. what's to care about?
mircea_popescu: so the notion that somehow it could be undone by meaning... item exists economically. all the women "liberated" from depending on a male are still just as dependent. much like all the slaves "liberated" from slave owner are just as much slaves.
mircea_popescu: what they "say"... well they ain't sayin' anything. in the great depression lotta folk "listened" in church because only way they'd get the bowl of soup.
mircea_popescu: same exact thing here -- great depression, church, bowl of soup.
mircea_popescu: the notion that the 1920s produced a whole lotta churchgoers is exactly of the same cloth as the notion that the 2000s produced a whole lotta academics, "discourse", "awareness" and what have you.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not as much getting as they used to get. Today the SIU department of Philosophy has 7 faculty members. Since I was there were five promotions to emeritus (some rather young) and at least three other departures. In the intervening decade they have ONE new face on their faculty web page.
mircea_popescu: well of course, this is the problem with government-"solved" problems : the solving produces the problem, and the only available response is to dilute the "solution". homeopathy for the masses!
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile a couple journals, a couple "centers of study", and a book series has been reduced to... a book series
mircea_popescu: exactly how the other socialism played out -- by the time 1980 rolled around, there were so many "responsibles" to the worker, there was barely enough bread to go around.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes ; the whole "field" has been taking water for decade+.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They closed shops plural. Apparently the repurposed residential buildings are there, but locked without grad students funded to guard the door.
BingoBoingo: Mind that as recently as 2010 one of the centers there had just been inaugurated and the older one was opening satellite facilities at Chinese universities
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists.
ben_vulpes tearing personal and foundation iron out of hometown dc, bbl
mircea_popescu: the logic is sound, if you think it through : "we fat sexually worthless females, in a word we the mamies, have the following grievance : back when the clever boys discovered new lands and made train engines, you priviledged them for this reason. now -- they do not. why can't we also have the payola they get ?" "uhm..." "and if you don't like this simple formulation, we can add 10mn words of rephrasings ?" "fuck"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform because the "science" just as much on the dole, and consequently the main reason the "grievances field" (i kinda like the term tbh) even exists. << I didn't realise until today that I am one of the leading indepenent scholars in greviances studies
mircea_popescu: as long as "engineering" and computer pseudoscience and tesla and deeply dysfunctional entirely-not-a-chance-in-hell-of-ever-working-why-don't-you-talk-of-hp-anymore "electric" cars get money... on what grounds can you deny it to irigaray and her brood ?
mircea_popescu: you see ? it is actually very sensible, in the "common sense" sense of sensibility.
mircea_popescu: ask one of the fucktards this, sometime. "hey, mp's bmw has 270 hp under the hood. what's your tesla got ?"
mircea_popescu: because the "oh, we don't DO hp anymore" is definitely coming out.
mircea_popescu: let's take the 2012 tesla s lulz : 581 kW theoretical powerplant ; 100 kWh theoretical battery pack. it's like a bmw with a two ounce tank!!!
mircea_popescu: and yet tesla got to pretend it's worth 300 a share ; and 2bn a year spending money out of the "shareholder"'s piggy. where's the mamie with 2bn to spend, i wish to see this.
mod6: !!withdraw 0.81037277 168AkkaciPGrFFzfSENXAD921mi8W3S3Xv
mircea_popescu: just the insane way that all is organized, 100% DESIGNED to turn the eye towards the scam and away from the actuarial backing. where the fruck is the fucking list of how much stock they sold ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, no, mp, nevermind that, would you like any of these 5 instantaneous made up quote streams ?!?!" "no." "how about the randomized news feed" "fuck off".
mod6: !!v FC3B78FA3E9809F8BD83DED36509209F34CE63EB2ECA1D7BC99A5B810024CD11
mircea_popescu: "there's a whole list of what people said about the thing you're wanting to see ?" jesus.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; terminal (which hasn't been "updated" to "newest in ux and gui" crap, thankfully) lets us know they have 170,593,000 shares outstanding, not counting warrants and options.
mircea_popescu: the 2bn they burned in 2017 comes out of a ~51bn piggy.
mircea_popescu: well... the laughsdaq endowment still got the chinese to ship some man-sized li batteries over to frisco, yes ?
mircea_popescu: so i'm saying... it's not 0, whatever the actual ratio. and if i concede a 0.1, you're still not gonna produce the 5bn hypatia.
mircea_popescu: costs whom ? the little yellow men? of course. but the lolzdaq tards still paying for it.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, the useless castrated boys get 50bn, and the useless fat girls get 50mn. this is the current disparity, if i had to guess.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the webstyle just infuriates the shit out of me.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 23:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz ~nobody caresd about, apparently kevin spacey got de-kulakized also ?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Yeah, one of two to go down for fucking boys
BingoBoingo: Other one was the Asia chick who started it
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 04:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we got anything for the s.nsa report ?
ave1: diana_coman, I've been running your tester with large package sizes and so far zero errors (everything even stays in order so far).
diana_coman: ave1, good to know, thanks! and yes, it seems that there are few errors under those conditions really: over 1 full week I got less than 0.2% lost
diana_coman: I'm going through the data right now, I plan to publish it + write-up by tomorrow
mod6: ok, nevermind. works!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i figure the rams or what were don't need to be included ; what'd the switch end up costing, you ever figured it ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 16:28 asciilifeform adds ' asciilifeform-recipe switch ' to next cargo manifest
mircea_popescu: yeah but we were using a "standard" figure. what's pizarro charge, i don't recall ? was it 10% ?
mod6: Hi, I think we do 20% usually.
mod6: I don't have my notes in front of me though.
mod6: "We chipped some folks"
mod6: Yeah, was some years back it seems.
mircea_popescu: inb4 pantsuit dept of blue farts starts "chinese spies in democratic party" fbi investigation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, gave a look at eulora log recently ?
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i know who you or mocky are, i don't know these random names!" "so ?" "so the random names are spam" "congratulations of having a wot. now try without."
mircea_popescu: no. entirely without rsa all you get is cipherloade. with rsa but with ~not great wot~, what you get is on display currently in eulora log.
mircea_popescu: thereby the personal incentive3 to great wot ("but mp... why should i work my ass off and stay up nights to get good ratings from good people?!?!?!") is precisely so as to turn #eulora into #trilema.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:24 mircea_popescu: trinque is this something you'd be interested in doing ? expand deedbot thusly, maybe charge chans a fee ?
mircea_popescu: aaand considering it's been coupla weeks, trinque care to put an eta on it ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform supposedly big deal in this "foss" thing i never heard about. i dunno.
mircea_popescu: there's much less of interest on the whole fucking internet than there, it's the bigger half of the web, none of this shit where i search for dead or freenode and that's not on the results.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-01 14:49 asciilifeform: recall the thread where mircea_popescu observed 'y'know those 'hard' murder cases, where detective sits an' thinks, well guess what , in new york they no longer do that, either obvious suspect or they shelve it nao'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but that's fixedform, not freeform natlang
mircea_popescu: the problem with "web searching" always was this confounding, "there's no definition of page"
mircea_popescu: eg, if everyone was on mp-wp, degree of magnitude cheaper search
mircea_popescu: (which yes is contemplated here -- have republican blog search engine, dedicated.)
mircea_popescu: "but people want to be free!!!" "no fucktard, gas wants to be free. people want to make sense."
mircea_popescu: nobody ever fucking thinks about this, all the "oh, authoritarian irrespirable atmosphere at home!!!" complains never go along the lines of "but daddy, i want to be free, stuff omlet in my ear and piss out the nose!" "what are you, some kind of moron ?!" ; instead they always go along the lines of "but daddy, you're not making any fucking sense!" "shut up!"
mircea_popescu: then they come with the "solution" to the not-making-sense problem by implementing "freedom", and sure enough there's idiots down the line wanting to stuff omlet in ear and piss out nose and be "transnourishal".
a111: Logged on 2015-07-05 22:31 mircea_popescu: if that 1% doesn't feel the state like a glove, the state's gone. kinda like my ancient "the state may exist inasmuch as and for as long as i can't tell it's there."
mircea_popescu: kinda lulzy how june 2014 gets to count as ancient in my head some point on or about july 2015. year-and-a-month!
mircea_popescu: (in fairness, pretty sure it's also stated in romanian, which is what that "ancient" really denotes, but anyways.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, did i ever ask you what's "loper" supposed to denote ?
a111: Logged on 2014-04-03 13:30 asciilifeform: truffles: it was a minor subplot. they find these critters on jupiter, living in the gas, and decide to study them. by building a machine which transforms people into them, so they can see what their life is like. and then, for years, no one returns to be converted back. eventually one fellow comes back. and tells how much more fun it is than being human. end result: mankind vanishes, converted to lopers.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-03 13:23 chetty: well perhaps none of us will live long enough to see the next centralization
a111: 2013-02-05 <truffles> why would illumi's be interested in bitcoin though
a111: 2014-09-10 <truffles> it bugs me when i dont resolve things..
a111: Logged on 2014-04-03 13:28 mircea_popescu: the point was never to agree. the point was to disagree well.
mircea_popescu: kinda why i even used tumblr. afaik the most stable of the heathentrons.
mircea_popescu: im sure it'll be "bought" because "valuable assets" etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, naked pics outliving in the public sphere the woman pictured seems morally dubious, exactly in the vein of old margo channing acting a "25 yo, age's unimportant -- [AS LONG AS SHES TWENTYSOMETHING!!!]".
mircea_popescu: let the new hussies redo the old forms in their own flesh.
mircea_popescu: (more of the same old "omfg nobody gives a shit about our inconsequential nappy headed ho club ?!?!?!?!")
mircea_popescu: no cause to mention it, seeing how it's not in the protocol, it's server side
mircea_popescu: client only ever repeats ids the server produces, see. server says "here's the tree of nodes" and client may ask "what is X node"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cool, i get 1e12 accounts! what's a collision do iyo ?
mircea_popescu: idea is that if collision happens ~in same client~, then can have some unexpected behaviour.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the storage's limited at iirc 200 items per category, and you can carry a further 90 or so, and well... so there's gonna be 100mn bits of flotsam out in the world ?
mircea_popescu: understand, i can readily make it 256 bytes, why not, i hold the hand that holds the pen.
mircea_popescu: but for every byte i add, ALL packets henceforth carry it.
BingoBoingo: I return from a local IT business networking event. Admission and pizza were free. Everyone else was either a full stack developer who does Machine learning and e-commerce, or independent consultant of unclear purpose
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's simply not specified what the id is.
mircea_popescu: i was thinking of the other one. the file thing. brb fixing. thanks for insisting.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i can't remember wtf "truffles" was. << I think you figured it as girlgendered at some point
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 05:01 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz ~nobody caresd about, apparently kevin spacey got de-kulakized also ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-02 18:37 BingoBoingo: Meanwhile from other mines: "I’m active in supporting LGBT causes. My boyfriend recently said that “this whole LGBT thing has gone way too far” and that he’s no longer sure what to think about same-sex marriage, even though he had thought he supported it. Worse, he said that maybe the original civil rights movement went too far, and perhaps businesses should be allowed to racially discriminate if they want to. In fairnes
mircea_popescu: to engage in any of it, at all -- you wouldn't discourse with the girls over the relative merits of pompadours or bangs, notwithstanding the lesser value items in the sack may very well want you to.
mircea_popescu: and, as it happens to all fashions, this one meanwhile became unfashionable.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 16:33 asciilifeform: imho 32b is rather short for anyffing that you want to be unique, even without enemies
mircea_popescu: ie, "i'm guessing you're still doing that, on the farm ?"
BingoBoingo: Re: earlier fashion thread. Turns out farm country is rejecting the ole trend as well
http://archive.is/RYM2v >> "are you OK with your psychology "teachers" getting "teaching" materials from this website? Because I'M NOT. My kid will NOT sit thru this [...] itspronouncedmetrosexual.com "
BingoBoingo: ;tl didn't click: Picture of a "Genderbread Man" graphic
hanbot: here's a question for the forum at large as i'm thinking about the missives on my plate for today: if tbf outreach is a goal, and talking to people a primary avenue of same, given the rocky road to voice in #t these days, should the foundation host its own castle-channel?
hanbot: well, say some journos or whoever want to chat. does talking to the foundation necessitate jumping through the #t voice model hoops?
mircea_popescu: these have the ability to irc that heretofore was magically undiagnosed ?
mircea_popescu: let's not worry about "what if the barn animal starts talking", in the design of the cattle prods.
mircea_popescu: they are what they are, and that is very much not people.
hanbot: ...but if they're very much not people in the sense of it not being worth to craft the item sensibly to minimally accommodate their particular idiocies, why contact them at all, again?
mircea_popescu: the design of the cow holding pen is built around bovine physiology and psychology, not human aesthetic values. because it's made to hold cows.
mircea_popescu: hanbot because the situation in the republic currently includes semi-domestic animals running all over the place, and in the process threatening the china.
mircea_popescu: i would like the semi-domestic animals domesticated properly, and the china safeguarded. consequently republic gotta make the step up from mongol horde into settled civilisation.
mircea_popescu: this'll not only make for much happier cows, but it'll also permit the purchase of some fine china.
hanbot: mircea_popescu alright then, hoops it is
mircea_popescu: i don't expect the cows to sit on couches as a resul;t of this.
mircea_popescu: give them emal and phones and telepheric or w./e the fuck they use.
mircea_popescu: cow holding pen has cow-facing plating on the inside. yes ? you ever seen one ?
mircea_popescu: it doesn't look like your house. it looks like a cow's house.
hanbot: ahaha, okay. i haven't seen the inside of a cow holding pen, no, fancy that.
mircea_popescu: it's built exclusively out of building blocks familiar to the cow and recognizable by it.
BingoBoingo: Well, that and walls to keep it from threatening the china
hanbot: anyway i suppose i oughta use your bimbo's contact info then, mircea_popescu
hanbot: can be a sorta moiety-lite
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, black girl uninspiredly picked the nick "sashalotus".
a111: Logged on 2014-03-21 13:05 ReutersEmily: Oh so glad you are here mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2013-03-01 22:30 SudsyForce: Two slave brothers, one black, one an albino, discover a treasure map which is taken from them by their foreman. They take it back but are pursued by the foreman. Originally, the foreman seeks the aid of two bounty hunters who pursue the protagonists throughout the film. At the end, both the foreman and the bounty hunters catch up with the two escaped slaves, and the foreman has a change of heart, helping to kill the bounty hunters.
a111: Logged on 2013-03-01 05:35 KRS1: yeah..wasnt always like that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i was looking for is our discussion of the old republic wrecking that was the "fugitive slaves act". you got link ?
mircea_popescu: i got the perfect monture supporting your summary, coming out in a few hours.