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ossabot: Logged on 2019-01-15 13:04:09 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in a quite hilarious conclusion to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887012 saga : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-19775 << yarvin throws in the towel.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928947 << they're weev-like/yarvin-like femstate cucks, not there for any other purpose than to explain how great the Inca actually is.
asciilifeform: ( where yarvin ? e.g. here : https://archive.is/ouesj , https://archive.is/PDQC8 << originals wiped in '17, as if that does sumthing )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other 'graduates' of same derpublic : yarvin
asciilifeform: yarvin's original claim to fame (of a kind) was a short and abortive attempt at this, he dug up a buncha confederate/slavery/etc texts and mirrored/commented
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, locklin fits very well in the impudent imbecile gallery, with yarvin, yukowsky and whatall else, 70s to 90s born fleshwastes.
asciilifeform: yarvin wins a kind of triple crown of rot -- not only perpetrated the urbit thing, but to get the necessary 'letter from hitler', did a kind of soft-recantation of his earlier 'rezistenta prin cultura' blogisms
mircea_popescu: somehow these morons went from 1980s alec baldwin's "go home and play with your kids" alt-fuck you you're a total waste of space to curtis yarvin's 2020s "i'll go home and play with my kids", direct restatement of "fuck you guise, i'm going home"
mircea_popescu: anyway. on a long enough time horizon all socialism aka militant stupidity converges. of course yarvin merges with ethertards, what's there to distinguish them besides historical accident (ie, the exact converse of timeline, the thing time washes out)
asciilifeform: pons & fleischmann imho are models of respectability compared with yarvin. ( and wasted 9000x less time of thinking folx.. )
asciilifeform: btw didja know, mircea_popescu , that yarvin has an rsatron in there ? possibly will be remembered as the only rsatron gnarlier/buggier than kochs's, or even microshit's
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in a quite hilarious conclusion to the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-15#1887012 saga : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-19775 << yarvin throws in the towel. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: even yarvin has the sense to correctly put him with muntzer et al
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:21 mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu has been re-reading http://trilema.com/2013/universalism-postwar-progressivism-as-a-christian-sect/ ; turns out it's actually quite related to http://trilema.com/2018/lets-put-three-and-three-together/ in the unexpected sense that yarvin's principal gargaun is the notion that what he calls "universalism" ~transmits~.
asciilifeform: or yarvin -- bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: (which both informs and explains ancient republican tenets such as "use whatever fucking language you're using" and so on. and which plainly explains why faux elites of the mass movement, be it weev or yarvin or that schmuck in "black mirror" or the "pua community" or w/e focus on a. providing a "sure fire" method through which b. you too, ~whoever you may be~ can whatever. this is necessarily and of its own blood and bone wr
mircea_popescu: i find fetlife sluts are about 10kx more interesting than hikikomori bois a la whatever set we've been contemplating, from curtis yarvin to rms.
mircea_popescu: and so no, there's no fucking excuse. if one has an equivalent of trilema, that claim may only be permitted to stand IF IT IS FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT. if it does the same thing. i think nothing of, picking randomly, orlovs' blog, or yarvin's blog, or you name the idiot, anil dash, fucktard mcdumbsticks, whatever, BECAUSE their blogs don't fucking work. and "i have a lot of '''traffic'''" isn't a working, and "i get paid to ad
asciilifeform: 'This book is the result of a learning process over many years, during which, I have been fortunate to learn from some very bright minds. In particular, I thank Tuur Demeester, Ryan Dickherber, Pete Dushenski, Michel Fahed, Akin Fernandez, Viktor Geller, Michael Goldstein, Konrad Graf, Pontus Lindblom, Mircea Popescu, Pierre Rochard, Nick Szabo, Kyle Torpey, and Curtis Yarvin for writings and discussions that were instrumental in dev
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:21 mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:21 mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: one could readily mechanize the process that created say curtis yarvin's "identity", say.
mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: as to the chat, i'd much hear your malformed oppinions than http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1772852 ; http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1772915 ; http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22+orlo%22 ; http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=yarvin ; http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Yudkowsky and the rest of the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1767149 ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: yarvin opted for the latter ; this one may be too thick to notice yet, or whatever, i've not looked.
mircea_popescu: ~same gallery as curtis yarvin & co.
mircea_popescu: the most positive light to shine upon political hacks such as curtis yarvin would be that they "continue" this decay.
asciilifeform: or perhaps moar fairly, rip of http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/04/on-monetary-restandardization.html , http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html , and one other yarvin that i've misplaced
mircea_popescu: i can picture too. that tribe, like the yarvin tribe, like the yukowsky tribe, like all the "alt" bullshits, exactly like "debian was an early apple appstore" and so on.
mircea_popescu: well you could also call it graham, or yarvin, or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: so, look at the shit krugman was churning out, or for that matter look at the shit paul graham was churning out. or yes, yarvin.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i think i said it before. and if i didn't, here it is again : curtis yarvin may be stupid, or else he may be evil, but in either case he's done more to ruin his country than quisling did to ruin his.
asciilifeform: sageprobes: now that has the makings of a good story -- does yarvin actually ~pay~ you lot ?!
mircea_popescu: at stage n, when bitcoin exists, curtis yarvin is too stupid to understand why it's much bigger than him ; and the mental efforts of marginal retard are just about comensurate with the sub dollar value of a coin.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688396 << and you don't see how this is exactly curtis yarvin crap ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-08 14:51 mircea_popescu: but the invisible line that unites curtis yarvin, that "lesswrong" derp, spandrell fellow, the restaurant manager chick yesterday, and on and on an endless list of these, is specifically that they welded the head shut.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 15:17 mircea_popescu: and this model ENTIRELY explains all of the "luminaries". werner koch worked the feeder-chumper cycle. stallman worked the feeder-chumper cycle. curtis yarvin worked the etcetera.
mircea_popescu: let me guess, rehash of original "stages" curtis yarvin "argument" ?
mircea_popescu: and this model ENTIRELY explains all of the "luminaries". werner koch worked the feeder-chumper cycle. stallman worked the feeder-chumper cycle. curtis yarvin worked the etcetera. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, it worked for obama. but all the white/jew boys of the curtis yarvin description, i dunno what school you gotta go to in order to come out quite that fucking cluleless. it's not even dumb, it's like anti-smart.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-17 22:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did yarvin / urbit EVER do anything other than selling "space" of various description ? it's like reddit by now, wut.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did yarvin / urbit EVER do anything other than selling "space" of various description ? it's like reddit by now, wut. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: fuckin hilarious, "urbit's aspirations", surely you mean yarvin et al's aspirations
mircea_popescu: see ? but none of that LARGE and important thing is in yarvin.
mircea_popescu: i really recommend against using yarvin's mental models for anything, they're well broken.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-19#1605206 << i always thought that's what yarvin was john smithing with his "jets" ☝︎
asciilifeform has never heard of any of the folx in this piece, save for c. yarvin aka mr mold
asciilifeform: lulzy comments, also, e.g., 'While I don’t think he’s a “white supremacist” as such “off-line” in his essays under the pseudonym Moldbug, the travails of Curtis Yarvin as a pure hacker are illuminating, to the point I’m pretty sure they’ve killed any chance his Urbit might have in the so called marketplace of ideas.'
mircea_popescu: and dorks a la curtis yarvin & friends go around dribbling "hey, since they're behaving AS IF they had the division, therefore they have them yes ?" as fucking if.
mircea_popescu: That he has been able to surf these scandals regularly as little more than free media opportunities shows that American democracy is in serious need of rehabilitation." << in my view, this settles an ancient point of contention curtis yarvin never manned up to, re "the cathedral" or generally how pervasive, or "in power" the idiots are.
mircea_popescu: "oh, yarvin said he doesn't think blacks are born slaves ?!?! OMG WHERE DOES HE LIVE I WANNA DO A LOAD OF HIS LAUNDRY!!!"
mircea_popescu: other than yet another example of how utterly ridiculous yarvin looks
mircea_popescu: not in the slightest. i daresay there is not one thing that originates with the curtis yarvin fellow.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: while useful conversations happen in channel, i have little doubt that shiva would be more productive if he weren't reading and reposting yarvin, bbc, el reg, or whatever 'sekoority' bloggers. it's really not hard for anyone to imagine.
mircea_popescu: or in yarvin's revolutionary-language clubs, or in "less wrong" to learn all about how to have a slavegirl while calling her a dragon or w/e is currently fashionable in manga world, and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: the objection is methodological. i am saying yarvin is not a thinker.
mircea_popescu: moreover this is the answer an actually competent scholar would give to amateur efforts a la yarvin's "oh, how could these people believe such nonsense WITHOIUT EVIDENCE".
ben_vulpes: subject of fdr, yarvin is peddling epubs of moldbuggery on the 'kindle store'
mircea_popescu: and they keep doing this, too, if anyone's curtis yarvin's model, hitchens
mircea_popescu: but the invisible line that unites curtis yarvin, that "lesswrong" derp, spandrell fellow, the restaurant manager chick yesterday, and on and on an endless list of these, is specifically that they welded the head shut. ☟︎
phf: "As a not-completely-cynical participant in a democratic society and a half-assed amateur philosopher, I’m about as turned off by Yarvin as I could be."
mircea_popescu: yarvin really should have his own breakfast cereal company.
mircea_popescu: i guess so. plenty of "lysenkoist" dudes were as convinced of the entire shitstack as yarvin is convinced the usg will survive.
mircea_popescu: anyway asciilifeform , the usg.desperation should be palpable, if they're scraping the barrel so close to the wood they've dredged up curtis yarvin, even.
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: Weev is actually closer to canonical example of alt-right than Yarvin
trinque: nah, that's Curtis Yarvin et al
mircea_popescu: anyway, the yarvin thing has a point. "intelligent" interface is exactly like "perpetuum mobile"|
mircea_popescu: looky, yarvin's fast food bill is no cost, he'd be eating it off ebt anyway. similarly whatever similar schmuck's credit card expenses to the tune of 5k we discussed recently.
asciilifeform: 'Urbit has a very good profiler (language integration makes up for a lot of elbow grease), and our attempts to squeeze out performance are usually successful. In extremis, anything can be jetted and probably will.' << yarvin
mircea_popescu: if yarvin/spandrell/etc qualify to discuss society ; then literally ex boxers are qualified to pen books.
mircea_popescu: would you say random wage slave with a kid in tow and a vague interest in maybe spending a week on "writing a book" is watering down "neoreaction" or whatever the fuck you'd call the line of "being an internet tough guy in the style of curtis yarvin" ?
mircea_popescu: for my own curiosity, does c. yarvin figure on the list of good citizens & old bolsheviks that were yehzov'd by stalinmp or notrly ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 at best your dream sounds like a bizarro curtis yarvin scheme
mircea_popescu: he is saying what orlov is saying, and what yarvin is saying, and what generally the castrated son of a stupid anglo whore is always fucking saying
mircea_popescu: yarvin will be pissed.
decimation: as yarvin wrote: "An Internet server is, above all, a massive fortified castle in alien zombie territory."
decimation: in yarvin's case I always thought it was attaching irony to google.com
ascii_field: they started paying yarvin to shut the fuck up
mircea_popescu: and i also challenged yarvin, who... kept silent.
mircea_popescu: imo the entire menagerie, orlov, yarvin, whoi have you are simply doing this by hand
decimation: yarvin pointed out the amusing contrast between the us wanting to de-africanize africa and the chinese wanting to take its minerals
decimation: yarvin pointed this out as well: you failed to live up to the america you propagandised us into believing in!
decimation: see yarvin's rants about 'pc coin'
decimation: yarvin wrote about this pattern in the policy side of usg as the smartest bureaucrats exactly cancelling each other's efforts
decimation: it's his real name, curtis yarvin
TheNewDeal: never heard him referred to as yarvin
TheNewDeal: who's those yarvin character?
decimation: early yarvin had a point about this: "You are a Catholic. Your parents were Catholics. You were educated by Catholics. You are governed by Catholics. All your friends are Catholics. All the books you've ever read were written by Catholics.
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 04:50:44; decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results
decimation: trinque: did you manage to make a copy of yarvin's blog?
decimation: asciilifeform: have you noticed that yarvin's blog is gradually disappearing from google search results ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i think actually curtis yarvin is a very fine example of what's the problem with derps "reviewing the whole history"
mircea_popescu: i'd rather read orlov's daughter from a marriage with yarvin consumated on one of their leaky carriers they have.
decimation: heh I forgot that paragraph from yarvin: "
decimation: this echo's yarvin's "what if ron paul won the presidency" gedankenexperiment
decimation: yeah, I think yarvin's 'state vs dod' proxy wars make a fair bit of sense
decimation: well, as yarvin himself wrote, "he truth, being true, is accessible to all - though not all will get it all."
assbot: Logged on 20-06-2015 22:44:56; decimation: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/country-that-used-to-exist.html < here was yarvin's big article on rhodesia
mircea_popescu: this guy's got a pretty fantastic racket. i hope i won't next hear i've heard about bitcoin from curtis yarvin.