mircea_popescu: jesus christ what fucking influence ? the soviets had intellectual leadership, who the everloving fuck can take the pantsuit seriously ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what happens to be iyo the cannonical piece re "mp explains non-wot items can't properly be said to have a name" ?
mircea_popescu: problems being that a) i already linked it and b) doesn't even say "name"
mircea_popescu: the idea is, literally, can not name amoeba, indistinguishable. must distinguish to name.
mircea_popescu: lol. in my notes, the correct pill turned out ~because~ of that.
mircea_popescu: the piece describes attempt to implement your earlier solution and what's wrong with it.
mircea_popescu: half the time people encounter "hard" problems is because they're trying to use the wrong tools to approach imaginary problems
mircea_popescu: the other half is because they're being uppity, trying to approach problems out of their pay grade.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 23:07 asciilifeform: phf: my alt-hypothesis is that it's something slightly different -- it's a haskellism. ameri-sad folx are irresistibly drawn to ~elaborately ineffective~ tech , that absorbs infinite 'ricering' (
http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-09#552410 ) while giving chance to 'show how clever'
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of a certain young adult, "but you're ~good~ ~here~."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know, i run into it with aspiring 20something girlies ALLLL the time.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:16 mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a wide swath, from thinking self wasted on washing floors to getting on irc and then resetting the connection fifty hundred times, and tons of other items more context dependant.
mircea_popescu: generally, the infant's "that man reads, give me his glasses so i may read too", carefully preserved as a ~useful~ fatal flaw in the taxpayer's brain by the flawed establishment.
mircea_popescu: in the end, meaningful socialism depends on this, yes ? if it weren't the [injust, btw] "control of the means of reading", anyone could be a factory owner. no ? are not all people born capable of reading ? it is only the envious piling up of glasses by ~some~ that prevent ~the rest of us~ from reading. especially the young.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, since we're doing lost arts, where the fuck did i state the pantsuit's problem of integration (ie, that pantsuitism doesn't stand a chance in the republic because the republic integrates it) in the terminology that "this sword cuts for them a portion of the way and for us the whole way" ? ie, that they're always dependent on state, whatever shit they come up with gotta be carefully ~stopped~ on various slippery
☟︎ mircea_popescu: fucking cursed am i, started writing an article an hour ago, still trying to dig myself out of the web of references spewed out by ~the first god damned paragraph~!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:35 phf: i'm pretty sure we had pocket conversations during netsplits, that none of the bots heard
mircea_popescu: and while at it, hey esthlos when you summarize this, do me a favour and link the discussion of globalization, integration, and sociopolitical construct evolution, yes ? :D
mircea_popescu: i read it in the very logs, months ago, months after it occurred.
a111: Logged on 2015-06-27 03:23 mircea_popescu: "runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way".
a111: Logged on 2015-05-11 00:08 mircea_popescu: This would also be why I don't think so very much of the libertards, and why I find myself so often in contradiction with people who view them as either powerful or in any sense a threat (usually both) : they aren't, either, nor could they really be, either, because the only tool they know actually works for them only a short distance of its run, and for us the entire length of that same run. The libertard's gambit is
a111: Logged on 2015-03-17 02:26 mircea_popescu: "I’m too smart, Professor. I’ve got nothing to say to normal children. Adults don’t respect me enough to really talk to me. And frankly, even if they did, they wouldn’t sound as smart as Richard Feynman, so I might as well read something Richard Feynman wrote instead. I’m isolated, Professor McGonagall. I’ve been isolated my whole life. Maybe that has some of the same effects as being locked in a cellar. An
mircea_popescu: i imagined this is behind the temptation to "fix" loggers, but it totally can't be fixed there.
a111: Logged on 2013-12-12 20:36 asciilifeform: i believe the ancient greeks used something similar, with a broken clay pot
a111: Logged on 2016-02-03 01:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally do you recall that very ingenious thing that worked essentially as a vinyl record player needle but on a random chunk of clay pot ?
mircea_popescu: the sad part being that now that i found what i thought i was looking for, i discover that much better reference would be something else i turned up in the search, that i wasn't specifically looking for.
mircea_popescu: fucking finally. this thing looked like it was going to swallow me whole at some point.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, that's just about how hanbot drives ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( if anyone ever sees a -5 , lemme know, it means the machine is prolly on fire ) << I prolly ought to be advised if the machine is likely on fire as well.
mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform the trilema cavalry showed up, i was right all along!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-15 14:07 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841659 << such fucking lulz, incidentally. really, all blue usg has left is this lame attempt to capture "the international" ? make 6th reiteration or whatever, keep rando nations in its "sphere of influence" ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo will be lulz of all time, once the "collusion with chinese influence agents, treason, corruption" becomes 90% of the federal docket.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, Argentina won't take em. They won't fit or be escpecially welcome in Uruguay... They are kinda stuck waiting in New York, California, and Chicago
mircea_popescu: eminently study-able piece of femstate agitprop. with all the sluts and hams hollywood could produce, also.
mircea_popescu: i believe the ants in my kitchen are worthy of their lofty house, fully understand that history is made by the great man, and the great man alone.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, should i see one with signs be sure i'll squish it. if the gekkos don't get to it first.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-23 22:21 asciilifeform: this reminds me, not long ago asciilifeform picked up a little chinese toy, item shaped like tennis raquet but the wires are charged to 4000v and connect to (small) cap; a sort of mechanized fly swatter, they pop, little blue plasma burst, vapour. nominally. so then , having used it, later i see a most peculiar insect, did not immediately realize what it is, never having seen before. looked closely, turns out -- fly head + front legs
mircea_popescu: you can't imagine just how fucking cute they are, btw.
mircea_popescu: um. real gecko is like 20 grams, and plenty large to hear. those be some fake geckos!
mircea_popescu: it doesn't in fact "transmit" anymore than the adenosine triphosphate cycle, or the carnot cycle. it's either there or not, schelling point of reality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes! example : "As a non-Universalist, I can't help but admire the success of this particular replicator. It is brilliantly designed, like the smallpox virus. The fact that no one actually designed it, any more than someone designed the smallpox virus, that it is simply the result of adaptive selection in a highly competitive environment, heightens rather than detracts from my awe."
mircea_popescu: this, of course, is false. atp is not "a virus", it just happens to be the cheapest item with those properties that can be had. living things are made predominently of water, but this isn't a contagion. this is a necessity.
mircea_popescu: idiots will want for "nothing bad to happen" and will trade "nothing to happen altogether" for it, if need be. this isn't because something they heard, or because something someone said.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly the idea. "not washing hands" isn't contagious. nobody "not washes hands" because "something they read".
mircea_popescu: socialism is not the result of people ~reading~ ; it's the result of people NOT reading. whether they decide they're not reading in the circumstance of a readery, where they discover that they're actually unfit for the activity of reading, notwithstanding what they thought themselves in the other context, of the barn (where, among the cows, they "felt" like reading'd be just the thing) or not is irrelevant.
mircea_popescu: if there existed a different (cheaper!) universal solvent with low polarity and immense thermic innertia living things would perhaps consist of mostly that, rather than mostly water. but this still wouldn't be a contagion, nor would be the "alternative" "preferred" in any meaningful sense.
mircea_popescu: but we don't normally speak of "the spread of the disappearance of hot water in progressive europe".
mircea_popescu: in short, the proposition that the accumulation of idiocy observable in the poor, the stupid, and the lazy is somehow a thing is not unlike the proposition that plaque is part of teeth.
mircea_popescu: honestly, this seems the correct representation. "filth is part of the human body" "whence ?" "if you don't wash it shows up" "so ?" "and it's somewhat predictable in form and substance. and odour" "so ?"
mircea_popescu: not even plato thought to include a mm or two of toe jam in his definition of the human.
mircea_popescu: but filth sure as fuck isn't infectious ; and the cvasi-religious beliefs of the subhuman horde neither. they don't end up dirty and stupid because transmission, but because nature.
mircea_popescu: and yes, obviously, "the cheese on the sides of her twat" is the "natural" and even "necessary" end point for ~all women. keep her in a cage, unable to shower for a week or two and see. but what's this say ? "common reason" ? fucking spare me.
mircea_popescu: the "ideas", if you can call them so, that people in caves "develop" aren't in any sense discoveries. john smith's uncomprehending mimicry of catholic dogma isn't "inspired" by scholastic writings. he just reproduced the twat cheese, much like shepherd "talking to the stars" in
http://trilema.com/2012/luomo-delle-stele/ rediscovers presocratic wankery.
mircea_popescu: and so, to bring this around, i always said that
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-30#1806663 ; here's a fine example of what is meant -- the guy with "plaque is the result of infection", like the guy with "homosexuality is biological", like the guy with "guns kill", like the guy with "don't tell women how to behave, tell men how to behave", like the guy with "stupidity isn't stupidity, but a thing of reason" are in the end the
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-04-30 18:21 mircea_popescu: in front of this, whether we idly decide that he's just dumb or actually evil, ie, his brain dun work like in the case of say bernstein ; or his brain doth work, but he deliberately attempts to shannonize republican words into imperial outcomes, a la curtis yarvin, jwz, whatever.... well what fucking difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: stupid people hold similar idiotic beliefs because stupidity is self-similar, not because someone taught them that ; and tamen usque recurret not because of mechanism, but exacrtly for lack of one. and so on.
mircea_popescu: in this view, "raising awareness" is the definitive wank, because it's an activity that is a) always entirely available ; b) always completely ineffectual and c) ulterior phenomena always confirm its predictions. no substantial difference between that and waking every morning ~3am and kowtowing towards the east until the sun comes out. a) this can always be done ; b) it will hurt absolutely nothing and c) the sun will always
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, "a bed sitting room" has the cast listed ~by descending height~. this is totally how ima do any film i ever do, let shorties learn their place!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-15 21:49 mircea_popescu: and since i'm doing "strategic superiority in review" for some reason, do we count
http://trilema.com/2017/lets-put-one-and-two-together/#selection-145.0-149.12 as having protected trump / fizzled the "impeachment" lulz ? or "coincidental" in the sense man who says he's going to do x doesn't do it not because "if you do it ima fuck you up" but for ~coincidental reasons altogether~.
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same "oh, could destroy bitcoin, just CHOOSES not to"
mircea_popescu: like elaine once said, the choice between being raped and being a good girl rests entirely with the slut herself : those pantsuit that choose not to misbehave are never truly raped into submission, rite.
mircea_popescu: that'd depend what you mean by is. he's the canary a massively distributed net uses for some purposes.
trinque: what of the desparate attempts to pin a "me too" to him?
trinque: the lizards don't have any other moves these days, than to "scandalize" and then pout impotently when it does nothing, or backfires
trinque: the scandalize macroexpands to "tell mother", and if herr lizard admits to himself that it does nothing, suddenly he's standing all alone, very naked
mircea_popescu: actually, i very much don't think someone respectable who ~doesn't~ have a train of weeping instagram whores "accusing".
mircea_popescu: in which vein i suppose ima have to produce a few, lest i find myself not having a very high oppinion of myself.