lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847663 << I just ran top for a bit. Looks like the most mysql ever takes is ~6.6% of memory. fwiw I'm just using
httpd (not sure if this would be a factor in mysql memory usage, but only difference I can think of between our LAMPs)
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 18:04 BingoBoingo: lobbes: What sort of memory footprint is mysql leaving on your rockchip?
lobbes: also, congrats on joining teh mp-wp-rk club
mircea_popescu: "Jake Joseph Paul is an American actor and YouTube personality who rose to significant fame on the now-defunct video application Vine. "
mircea_popescu: tha fuck does this even mean ? how can it possibly be significant if defunct ?!
mircea_popescu: even the momentarily-still-alive ones are very arguably significant at all.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 00:48 deedbot:
http://bimbo.club/?p=9 << Bimbo.Club - So what does happen when you drop everything and dedicate your life to serving...
mircea_popescu: but yes, she's not read nearly enough to be capable of penmanship in anything but the common low style. yet.
Mocky: ok, word is: no family in the region
trinque: dunno that I share this static view of humans. gonna be interesting to see what she gets whipped into.
trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot.
☟︎☟︎ nicoleci: thank you, trinque - I am excited :)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 04:48 trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847933 << moreover, the "new life" device is typically female ; perhaps the most widely examined & researched point by humans on earth, there's a fucking reason "marriage" consisted historically and ~universally~ (not counting the moron societies) of exactly this, "Ia-ti mireasa ziua buna, de la tata, de la muma, de la frati, de la surori, de la gradina cu flori" ie "bitch, say your goodbyes
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 04:48 trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot.
mircea_popescu: and no, there's nothing wrong with saying "universally, except for the morons". car tanks are universally filled with gasoline (except for the morons -- such as those who try straight toluene, or those al schwartz speaks of, or etcetera -- there's no "consensus" escape from reality, and so in plenty of cases there's no difference between divergence and idiocy)
mircea_popescu: anyway, speaking of which, isn't it a wonder all the "secret services assassinations" etc don't involve a simple "replace shower gel with nitrobenzene" ? evidently they can get hotel maids to perjure themselves in the most ridoinculous way possible, why not something incomparably safer ? not like the usual fucktards would ever give up the "conference" life
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 03:19 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847915 >> 'I was in a position in which I enforced company policy, hired, and fired as human resources and now no longer have an office with my name on the wall or any authority; however, I do have a 'cage', collar, and a really cute headband...' >> lol win, oblig >> 'Yea, a trooper of the forces who has run his own six horses!' (tm)(r)(kipling)
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december
mircea_popescu: 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!! << Ah, the old sodium free salt from the grocery store
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 15:57 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847933 << moreover, the "new life" device is typically female ; perhaps the most widely examined & researched point by humans on earth, there's a fucking reason "marriage" consisted historically and ~universally~ (not counting the moron societies) of exactly this, "Ia-ti mireasa ziua buna, de la tata, de la muma, de la frati, de la surori, de la gradina cu flori" ie "bitch, say your goodbyes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the irritating problem is that while the two characters are fundamentally disimilar, nevertheless there's superficial similarities that rankle. both use a language to communicate what appear to be thoughts, and both can emulate formal logic in their own wetware to reliably come to the same true/false values
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it seems, if one's inclined to generalize, that both sexes of a species are the same species, much like both recyclable and non-recyclable bottles are "bottle", in some sort of sense that doesn't make any sense in examination.
mircea_popescu: "up until that point where you take them to the recycling plant door and one is refused, they're entirely the same thing right, hold fluid"
mircea_popescu: so in the end, it becomes a dispute over present-value-evaluation. if you have two hats, one of which will break next time you use it, do you have two hats ?
mircea_popescu: "well... it's not broken now, is it" this is how people here repair my cars. "is it ok ?" "sure, nothing's broken RIGHT THIS INSTANT" "this is a german car, that's not what ok is."
diana_coman: asciilifeform, he had *his* option to be part of tmsr and she had *her* option to be part of it; he did not take it on account of "but I earn money now and I'm building mah future at this great company" ; she took hers discarding the earn money now and this great company
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know what that would be based on really or why you'd put it in
diana_coman: basically nicoleci then "understood" she was NOT useless somehow? I don't quite follow
diana_coman: he demonstrated that he was illiterate and so on; pretty much what you complained re nicoleci atm; no proof that one can't learn
mircea_popescu: absolutely douchebag character was better informed than the girl ; and more competent.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the irritating problem is that while the two characters are fundamentally disimilar, nevertheless there's superficial similarities that rankle. both use a language to communicate what appear to be thoughts, and both can emulate formal logic in their own wetware to reliably come to the same true/false values
mircea_popescu: there's a bit in the piece i am working right now which i'd like to reference ehre.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: let us just say "is alwayes too hard for himself" and come back to the particular issue in a day or two
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i would dare propose the fundamental difference is that the boy absolutely needs to maintain throughout a certain feeling of continuancy, a certain notion that he's still a person, that something from his past nevertheless even today stands, that his retrospective history is somehow interpretable as "having a red thread running through it". even if it were to change, it must be continuous.
mircea_popescu: whereas the girl does not so need. even if it is extremely distressing, the experience of the loss of the self is post-partum enjoyable, and in the process ultimately unscary.
diana_coman: might depend on what "self" one talks about there but anyways, it can certainly wait
mircea_popescu: diana_coman ah, i just meant the minor side point of "competent at wrong thing".
diana_coman: ah, I can see that; I'd put it simply: boy attaches a way higher cost to "being wrong"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the whole "faux transvestite" a la brendafernandez, "i'm a boy who likes girls but not like a man, so how about i dress up like a girl and we frolic ?" is very much this "what if i could girl also ? discover one day mywhole prior life was a fake" etc.
mircea_popescu: boys are supposed to try things, yes ? scary things, yes ? well ?
mircea_popescu: oh i thought we were talking "transsexuals" / tulpas/ we
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall the complaint of the police a few years ago that "you've got all these written exams, now we're stuck making police agents out of girlies, god help us" ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: neah ; for one thing the "i r lion" fury people shy away whereas the "i r girl" "trans" people seek the limelight.
Mocky: seems to me both male and female cling to the continuity, but female has greater capacity to reframe the past to fit a completely different continuity narrative.
mircea_popescu: Mocky different construction of the id ; therefore different capacity to survive specific crashes.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I recall that specific complaint mainly as repeatedly cited by you; but other than that I thought it was already quite pervasive issue basically
mircea_popescu: diana_coman alright ; but do you see the argument that ~school as an institution~ provides a higher onthological threat to the boy than to the girl, specfifically because of this implicit "we'll make you something else" promise ?
diana_coman: if that's what the school promises, it's a tall order anyway; and for that matter does school make girl boy ? or what "something else"?
mircea_popescu: well, there's that old "as i became a man i put the things of childhood aside". "something else", you know ? not a girl, no, but who knows what terror ?!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's a deep reason for all the historical "initiation ceremonies", and the reason is as usual need. maturation's axiogenic.
Mocky: if it was ballet school, then yeah something else.
mircea_popescu: you think ? from experience russki ballerina doods quite dangerous in close quarters.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-25 23:37 mircea_popescu: jesus fuck, check out these idiots : advertise it at $1.89 ; charge $15. da fuck.
diana_coman: well, if it's a whole club, it has to be worth more!!
Mocky: tell a boy he's being sent to school, maybe he dun wanna go but no horror. hell him ballet school, (or fashion school or cheerleader camp *something else*) then yes, horror
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:27 asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect (tho cannot know) that douchebag understood that he was useless , and took refuge in religion.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-01 16:43 Mocky: holy shit, an hour ago i was eating waffles and now i'm going to qatar
mircea_popescu: how do you salvage this, "personal valor transcends gender bias" ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, it might be that the "decolonialization" sudden failure of europe has had the undiagnosed effect of removing fundamental mechanisms required for male maturation, leaving a sort of unstable state. perhaps the case is boys could manage just fine, if there was some sort of resource available to explain that... i don't even know, whatever the fuck, that it's ok to be a boy and it'll work out in the end.
Mocky: asciilifeform, sounds like less promise of something else
mircea_popescu: nothing's nearly as drastic in fact as the "preparative" imagination promised.
mircea_popescu: y is the universal imago of the contemporaneous english speaking young male.
mircea_popescu: so remote is this "delectable pork sausage" in fact, that scarcely he perceives the difference between waving gun out of suv window and shooting some innocent bastard.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't believe that happened. the difference i propose is that for him, said "butchering" is an asimptote, the mind never quite reaches it. which is how they end up believing that "i pick up gun and start shooting" is the ~end~ state.
mircea_popescu: wtf end state, "don't take your guns to town, boy" is specifically about "don't ~START~ something".
mircea_popescu: the range wars in the very us raged in living memory as an exact manifest of this whole thing.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:51 asciilifeform: 'Andropov: Why did you decide that you are a judge and can decide with a gun in your hands? Ilyin: Because a person should live not exist.'
mircea_popescu: (technically, he just shot some random old driver and some cosmonauts, but w/e. dood was going to take over govt by himself and shit, there's a difference between infantilism and insanity.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because the issues the child is struggling with is that he had no dad to take him hunting,
mircea_popescu: not hitler's sort of problem, "the world's incorrectly cut up"
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i'm vaguely curious how long until scholarship comes to senses, puts hitler where he belongs -- in lengthy line of peasant revolt leaders, with calvin, gh. doja, what have you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, they all put forth the same pretense, hitler's "take over without breaking as much as a windowpane" very neatly mirrors calvin's "condemnation" of the 1524 wehrmacht.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 21:39 asciilifeform: the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not.
mircea_popescu totally sees it, signing a "i deeply regret all these usg politrucks did not see the wisdow in time" eventually.
BingoBoingo: Well, gotta keep the "expert witness" racket going
BingoBoingo: Well, the US courts discussion is always a process of papering over "having been stolen from"
BingoBoingo: They gotta constantly A/B test their copywriting
mircea_popescu: wel lfor one thing that'd open the whole civil liability can of worms
mircea_popescu: recall it was bush's idea "we can;'t let people out of our kidnapping centers, tehy'd fucking sue"
mircea_popescu: should be funny to see the same argument brought the other way
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes BingoBoingo has it, the "expert witness" is perhaps the prime manner through which pantsuit state maintains both pretense of justice and pretense of its own relevancy. judge judges "correctly" on "the basis of evidence" and "evidence" is carefully curated. ye olde "toxic facts / fake news" approach to utopianism.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-11 19:02 asciilifeform: phf: believe or not, asciilifeform sat on a jury once where 100% of the evidence was the computrace nonsense
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:42 mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall the complaint of the police a few years ago that "you've got all these written exams, now we're stuck making police agents out of girlies, god help us" ?
nicoleci: hmm... and now ill have to have someone read that to me..
mircea_popescu: the many blessings of illiteracy -- drives one to make friends, for instance.
diana_coman: nicoleci, it might help to start looking at it from the other end: figure out what makes an effective policeman in the given context, compare it with what the "exam" actually tests even in the best case and then see how it fits otherwise with reality in the field; then again, I guess finding someone to read that 1 post might be faster at least
nicoleci: diana_coman, ahh good point. ill keep that in mind, if i ever do find someone who can read the text
deedbot: idint voiced for 30 minutes.
idint: vi este canal en btcbase
idint: ingles y portugues
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There is, #agriculturalsupremacy
BingoBoingo: idint: Do you have any questions for the group? Otherwise we can carry out the getting to know you chat in #agriculturalsupremacy
idint: yes i am concerned about privacy questions and would like to know what's this channel is about
idint: should i stay on this channel if i am interested?
mircea_popescu: teh age of "hi i am mario of so-and-so fiat concern" ended sometime this summer. talk to a lord, make yourself useful, #trilema is not open to the general public.
idint: ah okay, i understood what's you're about, just another typical deliberate cunts found on freenode.
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, I can believe that a couple of rentacops sucked you off, but if it is not a true story - as you said (even in the title), then how does it all connect?
mircea_popescu: if it were presented as a "true" story, like so many other items actually so presented on trilema, with documentation unassailable and so on, then it'd have counted for what, an anecdote ?
mircea_popescu: as it is presented, an "untrue" story, it counts as what ? a myth ?
mircea_popescu: neither anecdotes nor myths are a practicable basis for science ; but they're as fine a basis as there could be had for discussion.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 21:01 mircea_popescu: did you throw it all out ?
mircea_popescu: i'm just being intolerable for the sake of it. "good thing you have them, they don't work."