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BingoBoingo: Anyways, color of paint is secondary or even tertiary concern. Promary purpose of paint is as protective coating
mircea_popescu: totally worth writing a biography, "l. conway - from reality to convention. a life."
mircea_popescu: can anyone dig up a contact for the fellow ? i'd actually do an interview.
mircea_popescu: eh, the usians also have one of these, "nuclear physicist / peace advocate"
mircea_popescu: the adventure of that unfortunate idiot bailey is exactly that -- the dissemblement of the entire system people like orlov, and like rotblatt, and like every tard in between shat on for a half century.
mircea_popescu: it's still called the same thing, but it has ~same to do with its own history as today's russia with historical soviet union.
mircea_popescu: !~google "what niggers want is tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to shit in."
mircea_popescu: i ended up with both mapping to "orlol" in my head now i can't distinguish irl.
mircea_popescu: this isn't to say that the previous system was any good -- it truly was about as good as the soviet union, which is to say worse than nothing.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:41 asciilifeform: usg1 - 'idealism', attempt at actual federation of independent states; usg2 - strong federal / centralized, slave states alive; usg3 - slave states zapped, vestiges of state autonomy removed, capitalism; usg4 - the one we know and love.
mircea_popescu: in typical ignoramus fashion, he is missing the jackson us in there, annexing florida and shit.
mircea_popescu: i really recommend against using yarvin's mental models for anything, they're well broken.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, on the face that'd be lincoln not jackson. very different items.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fdr made 3 not 4, evidently. 4 is more or less kennedy.
mircea_popescu: it is only accurate if one's account of us history is made after reading it rather than before.
mircea_popescu: there should be a book written about these "earworms" let's call it, little bits of memetic stupid that work on the innocent strictly, and reconfigure what'd have been a natural construction into stupidity.
mircea_popescu: in any case, roosevelt was about as fascist as mussolini
mircea_popescu: pretty much the same ideas throughout (which is not surprising, mediocre men reflect the fashions of the age, news at 1100 ad.)
mircea_popescu: yes, but that earlier is arguably the rarara monroe doctrine us "european power" of jackson
mircea_popescu: see ? but none of that LARGE and important thing is in yarvin.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the hamilton-carnegie us has a) little to do with the jpmorgan-rockefeller us, and also entirely nothing to do with the jackson-nixon-bush us.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a nation you're discusing, it's a spot of dog vomit, a chimera of isolated cultural pockets.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean "cultural pockets" as in, people from chicago talk funny. i mean isolated cultural pockets as in, the jefferson-hamilton debate of 1700 is still live and kicking in 2000, argued in the sense of dumb rehashing by the same people in different costumes.
mircea_popescu: the agitolalia re "progress" is especially funny in a place that's literally still playing the same plays.
mircea_popescu: one is to regard it as a symbol, the other is to regard it as a property.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that doesn't really enter into any of this. you asked for a disjunction i gave you the genus and specific difference.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean you're now at liberty to savage all over the livingroom finery.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 13:49 mircea_popescu: one is to regard it as a symbol, the other is to regard it as a property.
mircea_popescu: yes. it doesn't mean "money-as-property" in the sense of "old destroyed world, i get to keep my money". it means money as property in the sense of, money IS A PROPERTY of other objects. like being the color red.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the hamilton school, money as symbol, attempts to construct a grammar of the world wherein money is a word like all the others, and with it finally complete the ancient kaballah task of reading the true bible.
mircea_popescu: the jpm school, not being jewish, simply aims to you know, resolve THE PROBLEM of this property, like they'd cure the common cold or the misfortune of being black.
mircea_popescu: which is why eugenics sticks to one but not the other, say.
mircea_popescu: the classification of ideas is a very useful scholarly discipline.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: "In the meantime, the Debian Project has taken measures to secure its systems by removing Dmitry's keys in the case that they are compromised." This will in no way affect our ability to provide you with compromised keys.
mircea_popescu: had the usg terrorist organisation done it, it'd have been all a-ok by these wrecker's lights.
mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely curious if the russians are actually going to try the espionage case or just bury the schmuck in a hole somewhere.
trinque emerges from the gentoo cave, like the Lord, three days later
trinque: musl and x11 are angry at each other yet, something to do with the way x11 loads modules
trinque: I dug a glibc trench for now while I fiddle with musl+X
trinque: also have an apu2 on the way which will be a dedicated gentoo+musl. I'll write up the unboxing and gentooing of that guy when it arrives.
trinque: re: musl and X, you have to tell it in xorg.conf what order to load modules in. had this for intel, but don't know the proper incantation yet for amd/ati
trinque: probably yep, m-sata gumstick drives
trinque: there's a decent store 10min away that stocks about as well as newegg, can go get something once I have the apu2 and see what will fit nicely in the case.
BingoBoingo: Aha, comp usa didn't sell machines. They sold "service plans" and "financing"
BingoBoingo: I have no idea why flashlight spam, also recieve said genera in spades.
ben_vulpes: i'll take one busted 20-year old f350 tyvm
pete_dushenski: lol all of ontario rental properties now subject to 'rent control' capping rate of increase at that of inflation WITH MAX OF 2.5%YOY. because if inflation is higher than 2.5% it doesn't count so don't be a terrorist mkay. lol that place is so broke.
trinque: that thing's in beautiful shape though.
ben_vulpes: what's that after adjusting for inflation?
pete_dushenski: of course, same could be said of air-cooled porsche or 50s ferrari, but neither of these sports cars were made in the kinds of quantities the toyotruck was. then again, the quantity of unrusted, unbagged units probably isn't all that far off the mark.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 13:52 mircea_popescu: yes. it doesn't mean "money-as-property" in the sense of "old destroyed world, i get to keep my money". it means money as property in the sense of, money IS A PROPERTY of other objects. like being the color red.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: good point. it's probably $120k adjusted for inflation.
mircea_popescu: i know i'd pay a premium to wipe my ass with argentina for years to come.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 18:12 asciilifeform: and the author of the linked www oughta be horsewhipped.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 18:16 asciilifeform: exactly same liquishit on 'the guardian', 'new york times', and this derp
pete_dushenski: it's really not hard to spend two hours a day reading logs just to check all the obscure and arcane references. and that's before reading all the links.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: what's worst case scenario, shoot skvirrel and gasenwagen comes early ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 21:19 mircea_popescu: i know i'd pay a premium to wipe my ass with argentina for years to come.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 21:31 mircea_popescu: in other news, qntra slow but present.
pete_dushenski: not really gangster enough, nor sporty enough, for my particular tastes. $60k isn't crazy for A truck, but not for that one imo.
trinque: plus reliable / nice looking toyotas have not yet been canceled.
pete_dushenski: but... freakishly, frighteningly tiny. one pilot affiars are no-go afaic.
pete_dushenski: might as well ride motorcycle at night with no headlights and no helmet
ben_vulpes: there are many less traumatic failure modes helmet mitigates against
ben_vulpes: it also mitigates against point of motorcycle which is to go out in style and at speed
mats: being on the road at all is terrifying
mats: so many twits on their smahtphones
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason that is the usual mode of death is helmet laws.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, their usual mode of death would be "rode over a pebble"
mircea_popescu: and in other "holy shit i love this place" lulz : i bought three fresh coconuts for a thousand colones today ; and half a dozen superb riple mangos for two. this comes to almost 10 kgs of produce for six dollars total. then further down the street proceeded into telas tienda, selling authentic silk brocade, five bux the double-length metre. and it is silk, straight from the worm's ass. it burns, the grain feels right, you nam
ben_vulpes: princeton, stating the obvious as far back as 2014