phf: by the time i started figuring out the socioeconomic part of the question it was a year too late (they started tightening the screws some time before putin came to power, which was not so much the beginning but the announcement of the done deal. i remember '99 the situation of a lot of people changed drastically.)
☟︎ phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki"
☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 22:48 BingoBoingo: OMG STILL CRASHING!
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:13 ben_vulpes is regularly surprised at the thickness of derp found in the 'security community'
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:16 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687889 << ben_vulpes ponder the sheer hilarity of the 'they revoked key based on faux signature!11' by same derp who heckled the 'peter anvin' key affair
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:19 asciilifeform: ( pretty great title, too )
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:36 asciilifeform: other thing is, even if you don't want for anything the 'milk' (cpu cycles etc) of pwned derp, and simply going for max materiel damage, formatting hdd is not necessarily the max
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:49 asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu would prolly snoar, however, this setting is old hat to him. )
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 01:28 mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha o brother. "postmodern film/video theory & crit with an emphasis on phenomenology" ? reheheheally.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 23:57 phf: hah, nah, i'm more of petka from chapayev i pustota. i spent the 90s with amateur esotericists. i didn't actually get to play the businessman, so didn't acquire any of these skills
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:04 phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:06 mircea_popescu: the proposition that we'd end up with a sort of uci-as-nsa and l1-as-subtstitute-for-dnc is very much the proposition that, "you know what ? inca also corrupts"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:07 mircea_popescu: this is observably true, in history : the proposition that "it's a great idea to live above your means" was the proximate cause of "french revolution" and every other socialist attack on money hence
mircea_popescu: and so now all of 'em got exactly what they were asking for. no more "evil banana republic" and their sense of "superior detachment' unhindered. they can roll their eyes all they want ; and it's not just the last but also the only thing to do.
mircea_popescu: for the people who hallucinate choice where there is no space for them to choose, a usg will always be found somewhere.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:22 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687915 << the problem with these "distinctions" is that they propose to import ntp in to "work". im not about to drag that into codebase, and i dont' care for "working" so defined.
mircea_popescu: why do you expect you'd be invested in persistence ? and why is it not obvious, "getting my kids (ie, specified moo moos) to stay interested in republic persistently is extraordinary pain for no gain"
mircea_popescu: nobody gives a shit about the persistence of bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: there's a limit to this "understanding new ideas through the old forms of experience". that limit is, when the new idea parts start getting procusted.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am thinking of exactly what i said, no more, not less. if you own a computer you wipe the crap and install workable software on it.
mircea_popescu: nothing else has any bearing on it. if the computer you own happens to be a laptop and it happens to be the third week thieves broke into your car and stole your laptop, this makes absolutely no difference re "own computer--clean and install". you might park your car some other place, but you won't change what's done to owned computer.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gotta wonder what was the thought process. 'i'ma pay for dope with shitpal just this ONCE' ?? << Nah, he wanted to be Alpha and bought GOLD MEMBERSHIP to forum linked to Return of Kinks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so let folks do it for whatever reason they do it.
mircea_popescu: sanity is only a novel item to the sort of people who autosnap to random nonsense. no, it's not novel, it's sanity.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well, he was rich and where's teh babes!!11 rite ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno who holds the notion it isn't ? afaik ~consensus, boring.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo well, he was rich and where's teh babes!!11 rite ? << lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the faux news copy depts are in the business of "thinking" carbonated sugar is EXCITING
mircea_popescu: (and yes, before you ask, this DOES work. to the sort of derp discussed above, the one with "options" he hallucinated)
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687838 << riddle me this. when $nobody pops in and asks a question, do you answer on the basis of the present (ie, the question wasn't fucktarded) or do you answer on the basis of some sort of judgement that the dude behind the nick is going to i dunno, stick around and then lend you a pack of ciggs in april 2021 ?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 21:29 asciilifeform: 'whatever' is only ever uttered by folx who don't have to lift a finger.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you something else : it lasted a lot longer in ro. cca 2004. and in that half decade, we burned and permanently affixed to inside of architecture A LOT of those same ugly faces that were all "oh, it went away in russia, only matter of time". if you've seen miller's crossing (you should) the stereotypical objectionable faggot's desperation at the end (but there's no angle!! look into your heart!!!) is very much descr
mircea_popescu: and they existed very much because ro girls, unlike russki stupid cunts, did NOT perceive themselves at some kind of liberty to not whore up for the gangster class.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it ends, in the sense that you either have the critical mass of organised youth raping and pillaging, or you do not. and the drag force of whether young cunts (and no, boys aren't anything but young cunts ftr) do perceive they're alive and do follow sense ; or imagine themselves dead and hang out with the stupid old women makes a difference irl.
mircea_popescu: it's not "most eager whores". it's whether 15 yo is "i will burn down the fucking house while you sleep rather than not follow these guys".
mircea_popescu: eg it's quite plainly to see argentina will go straight to shit : 16yo there is following her mom around, rather than being ashamed of being seen with her.
mircea_popescu: ro chicks were, pointedly, ashamed of being seen, ever, with their mothers.
mircea_popescu: end of ru 90s was strictly desertion into perelman fantasyworld by the foot soldier. much like end of europe 1700s was -- desertion into socialist fantasyworld by foot soldier.
mircea_popescu: and the incontrovertible truth of the matter is that you can ALWAYS desert into fantasyworld. "marry jesus" rather than the extant boys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from experience, feeding has nothing to do. it's just a function of vanity and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: people who overperceive themselves always desert no matter how fed ; and people who don't overperceive themselves never do, also no matter how fed.
mircea_popescu: why be a professor and actually a good one and then suddenly marry a cab ?
mircea_popescu: because nothing can beat the sugar of self delusion in those so inhabituated ; much like there's no dating in the future of Masturbation S Elliot.
mircea_popescu: there was jewish imigration into the us before ; you know them by name, like you know, murder inc.
mircea_popescu: meyer lansky is a name you know. anon soviet uni professor is a name you do not know.
mircea_popescu: THAT was failed shot at brass ring. those people -- actually tried.
mircea_popescu: hey, i give you the one success in the whole "jewish mafia" troop to make the point -- actually tried. one did ring it ; most didn't. but all tried.
mircea_popescu: right. so no, not actually tried ; and yes, married cab.
mircea_popescu: because it's very convenient, a cab, for their purpose. it allows the "ironic detachment" with still a modicum of interaction present.
mircea_popescu: hardly. none of these have a plain and simple nigger's "I never injured any of those women," reflected I, with meek resignation: "but God will be kinder to me and to my errors than they are!" conviction.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's "silently" in that they can't be arsed to communicate the spinning any longer. not in the sense it's not there.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, mob history is very apropos. so -- originally, hard set loser elements of the sicilian caudillo class moved over, and aimed to maintain in the new place the old place. this did not work irl, because they were small portion of the new place (worked fine in argentina later).
mircea_popescu: the 2nd generation did not care for this, and so literally sybilled the old shcmucks (luciano and gang, infiltrated all the orgs, and ~randomly picked a boss to kill first while feigning loyalty to the other)
mircea_popescu: possibly the most visible and best documented case of a sybiling in nature.
mircea_popescu: generally, the cab's "rolled eyes" is almost never in the form of "great american novel". he'll disapprove loudly of the whores, for instance, even as he depends on them for his only sexual outlet.
deedbot: Cory voiced for 30 minutes.
Cory: Sorry, haven't spoken in a while. I mostly idle here.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 02:45 asciilifeform: the forced dependency -- grates. the detail that it is forced by the sufferer's own inadequacy is never interesting to him
mircea_popescu: they will complain to me about republican ux and to the inca about the poverty of the bribes.
mircea_popescu: one of these -- cares. as per the definition of the terms.
mircea_popescu: back to the ironic detachement of they already detached : guy will never construct his nonsense into a positive something, like a great detachtard novel (which is what makes elliot so remarkable, it's like seeing what the africans thought an airplane'd be like, BY THEMSELVES). it's always a little formal curl that begets the whole system if you can be arsed to unearth it. so he disapproves of the whore's speech, or dress or m
mircea_popescu: anner. not because he hates her as she's his only lay (and willingly and freely given, at that) but because subtle differences of no actual substance are important to him as the basis and guarantee of the imagined substance of his own self.
mircea_popescu: something in the vein of, "he disapproves of her lipstick, because its color is almost but not quite imperial purple, and he's prophyrogenitos himself".
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> beelzebub answers prayers. but only as he knows how : with moar flies. << Gotta be you own devil
BingoBoingo: So, apparently a lot of Lichs do the coinbase thing and don't keep sole/soul possession of their phylacterys
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is such a lulz. after the earlier "ddt from an usian perspective" lulz, here's jewish manhood from an old woman's lens :
mircea_popescu: If Jewish gangsters still thrived today, if they hadn't gone legit, if Jews of my generation didn't regard them as figments, creatures to be classed with Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster, I think the Jewish community would be better off.[11] ”
mircea_popescu: Following Cohen's line of reasoning, one could say that Jewish-American organized crime played a role in the emancipation of the Jewish-American community from the ancient stereotypes. However, Cohen's description of Jewish gangsters ignores their criminality and immorality. These tough characters were still gangsters who extorted, exploited and murdered other members of the Jewish-American community for profit. They forced J
mircea_popescu: ewish women into prostitution,[6][page needed] and were generally considered a scourge within their own community.
mircea_popescu is all for an organised effort of "their own community" forced goat prostitution. why exactly is hillary clinton not naked in the barn atm ?
BingoBoingo: You forget the Jewish peculiarity. If you knock up a Jewish woman, even if the baby comes out dark chocolate, it is still 'on their team' jewfro and all.
BingoBoingo: McCain is not better. McCain apparently gave away the phylactry and is no longer invulerable to the natural immortaility of his oldgender.
BingoBoingo: Shouldn't have trusted phylacterybase.soros
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally re the sub dreams you certainly know of fainberg ?
mircea_popescu: smells of usgtronic nonsense miles away ; much like the usg-organized kidnapping and extorsion of orthodox rabbis in the "divorce torture plot"/
mircea_popescu: goes well with the iirc discussed "sex scandal" of the lessee
mircea_popescu: teh good old teitelbaums, owning a larger school sytstem than the state, helped along to "dynastic disension" etcetera.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if only he scored the sub, too.. i dun think usg coast guard carries depth charges << Some bigger boats likely do
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the reason to suspect you're not "holding woman against her will" ?
mircea_popescu: the usg has no title and no right to ascertain such "crimes".
mircea_popescu: nevertheless. it's not whether they did or did not do. that consideration can't be reach for lack of standing.
mircea_popescu: and if they did -- asciilifeform also not in a position to say if this is good or bad.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mircea_popescu: there's no proforma ban to my gouging babies eyes out and shoving them up self-same babies arseholes unlubricated.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 18:54 mircea_popescu: the man who, walking into a room, overpowers all present, is entitled, by right of force, to whatever he may extract.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -- sheldon adelson, who is remarkably not ever mentioned by the sort of people who keep going "koch brothers!!!", but otherwise chiefly famous for a) helping trump get 25mn to win the election and b) being involved in a very typically
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-27#1619009 shakedown and then buying newspaper to attack presiding judge and also making the "charge" go away.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 12:30 mircea_popescu: (story there was, olympus "hired" aka finally accepted its first foreign devil ceo (michael woodford) in 2011 ; and fired him two weeks later as the dude was principally dedicated to the job of, how can we finance usg out of this japanese corp. the usg however didn't go home, but started "legal proceedings", which eventually resulted in the above theft, plus whatever office supplies woodford managed to take home. apparently 6
trinque: asciilifeform: did read, my question went the other direction.
BingoBoingo: In other news: Miners signaled for SegWit 'Lock In" UASF averted, network turbulence expected
mircea_popescu: the substance of the usgtronic "moral panic" was all about how sheldon adelson's macau operations force local girls into prostitution and deal with triads and so on.)
trinque: wasn't there some derping about 2mb blocks too?
BingoBoingo: But because of SPV mining expect some orphans
trinque: I admittedly didn't follow any of it
BingoBoingo: trinque: Still derping, only really Silbert seems to be pushing atm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform robber who uses "laws" is properly known as whore, not robber.
☟︎ trinque: asciilifeform: right, so miners are the invoice bot I'm releasing later in the month, but without my character.
mircea_popescu: trinque "not a he". dream of all the losers making up the sea of dumb since forever.
mircea_popescu: trinque yes, the miners are the bot without the name. because that's what the tards want of this world -- to act, without responsibility. to be famous, but unknown. stuff.
trinque: I'm still chewing on this "usg is a man" thing, wondering if I'll hock up anything to spit
trinque: even allowing the "man", *nobody* obeys when it's in the room
trinque: would appear that's the entire point of it, pervasive scam
mircea_popescu: it is a pervasive scam. if you can be made to believe bullshit, it may exist.
trinque: corruption thread comes right back to mind. when bezos is head pantsuit, or whoever, will he look more like it, or it more like him?
mircea_popescu: as the wise jew once said, "here's a bunch of pennies, let god keep what he needs and let the rest fall back down"
mircea_popescu: she also hassled her maids, what. we're going to go by "how hard work is" nonsense on derpy blogs by derpy faux-media aspiring chicks ?
trinque: no distinct male voice, can't be any men in there.
mircea_popescu: but it also doesn't make "drowning" some sort of ocean-agency.
mircea_popescu: however many it drowns -- its score does not increase. however many go and return -- their score does increase.
mircea_popescu: this is in a word all of the original most serene republic.
mircea_popescu: nah. central america, retarded as planks. polynesia, dumber than the average horse. coast of africa off zanzibar ? i think i saw cupcakers with more iq.
trinque: asciilifeform: is usg one of the gods in this metaphor? smothered the jewish strutting ballsacks?
trinque: suppose to besos clinton it is.
mircea_popescu: "usg as god" is about as laughable as all the iconodule fare. really, you've made this god-box ? you did ?
trinque: look it has a very official sticker on it!
trinque: we couldn't afford stitching
trinque: baw, you went from USG to ocean, not me.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:40 asciilifeform: the 'rule of law' racket is exactly about pro forma ban tho.
mircea_popescu: the ocean stays the ocean in this discussion for just as long as no one made it ; and not a minute longer. electricity, witness, no longer any kind of god.
mircea_popescu: the lion no kind of god either, not since its continued existence depends entirely on human gift-giving.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:43 asciilifeform: however, i gotta ask, what happened to
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685436 ? usg beat and imprisoned the rabbis, at the end of the day. so how come it does not 'prove superiority' in mircea_popescu's lens ?
trinque: which amounts to a reference to USG as a thing with singular agency.
mircea_popescu: ftr, i dun beleive in any kind of new york hasidim superiority. for one thing i fear the jews are congenitally retarded. for the other, the time for that item came and went in the 30s.
mircea_popescu: large part of it is cultural. imagine, alf captured by africans. "tell us the trilema secrets!!1"
mircea_popescu: which is how the xtian god ended up married with picket fences and an obnoxious wife. it got corrupted.
mircea_popescu: if you will. happens everywhere though. divine boy will make the girl let all her articles of clothing go down the river one by one, and spend the rest of the weekend naked among the trees. base boy will be struck with the girl's beauty, marry her and raise her children.
mircea_popescu: see, that;s the item there. not when they started praying ; but when the priests started fearing their not praying any longer.
mircea_popescu: the hassids permitted. it's complicated, but, in the context of judaism (which is STRICTLY an eastern european affair, just as "united states" will not be a thing of hawaii even long after the continent is no longer us and the island still clings to history), hasidism was a sort of 1800s 1960s. flower power all the way.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is. it was a genuine reform movement, and it was shockingly liberal for the early 1800s born.
mircea_popescu: and it permitted women in the first and fundamental sense of, allowing they are human. not as rabbis, and not usually educated in the formal yeshiva sense. but it did teach them to write and read, which was entirely novel.
mircea_popescu: the whole concept was to make the wife more of a domestic partner and less of a domestic animal, with better results wrt the control of the young hussies.
mircea_popescu: if you've seen cabaret with liza minelli, i would propose that the rich jewish chick there depicted is a very correct rendition of the hasid maiden.
mircea_popescu: now, manwhile goym went to shit making hasids look ultraorthodfox whatever. but not what they were back when they actually carried meaning rather than mere tradiiton.
mircea_popescu: the germans -- also congenitally retarded -- managed to go to war with all their natural allies in fucking order. the sight, it boggles the mind.
mircea_popescu: there was no better demographic to support nazism than the jews, is the truth of 1935.
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but touching to the very trunk of the tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made tin cans are cars", cut them at the knees of their entirely absent legitimacy and then let the experts (all on his side) wipe the floor with t
mircea_popescu: he upstart 1/3 of new york small time pimps and coffin sellers, he gutted his economy.
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mircea_popescu: strange, i thought the stupid shit marttered and was needed and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: and i guess the next round of these idiots will not "know" how to find the previous round in the logs.
trinque: heh, some idiot central american dude just tried my front door.
trinque: I opened it, asked him if he was having trouble with the lock.
trinque: he turned and ran, but wasn't an ass worth chasing
BingoBoingo: Man, people gotta learn ettiquette. If you challenge someone's door, and someone on other side meets your challenge then you gotta offer your own door for their challenging.
trinque: mod6: hey maybe there's some tight white girl pussy inside to visit.
BingoBoingo: Sweet dreams of challenging salvadoran backdoor trinque
ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd
☟︎ ave1: it will build adacore's gpl 2015 by default, cd into dir, run ./ada-build.sh /absolute/build/dir
ave1: after 3 hours or so, you'll have a tar file there with static gcc/gnat tools that are all based on musl
ave1: it does not yet contain the asis based tools (gnatelim for example)
ave1: you're welcome! I'm working on getting the gnat gpl code to work with the gcc 4.9.4 release (now they are using a special version of 4.9)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 10:06 ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 16:17 asciilifeform: !~later tell ave1 have you ever used
http://sabotage.tech 's musltronic linux ? or have any idea who maintains it ? invite'em here.
shinohai: I thank you also ave1 .... will try this sometimes this weekend
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:23 mircea_popescu: but -- the fact that A happens to already have a connection to B and therefore B can S for him does not imply or require either A or B be not behind a nat.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
shinohai:
http://archive.is/tz5DN “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 17:05 asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687977 << mostly age, the few years that i'm younger than you i think made all the difference in the 90s scheme of things. by the time i "queuing up in the recruitment strip" it was tail end of the epoch
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:04 phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki"
trinque: what's the quoted ru part, for the peanut gallery?
phf: "unlce vanya will take you in, for a bit of work"
phf: russian has this neat property of packing double triple meanings into the phrase by using subtle word modifications and word order, which is what asciilifeform tried approximating with "giveya" :)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 19:15 asciilifeform: translating to engl always feels like hand-compiling to risc asm
phf: amusingly enough all the mil crowd that was quietly sitting out the 90s are the ones that were making real bank on the sly, and that's the people i should've been reaching out to (considering...)
phf: but the 90s was such a shoulda-coulda-woulda decade, looking at it in retrospect can only reveal your own limitations. so i can understand mp's sentiment
trinque: I'm 30 now; 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?"
☟︎ phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687972 << i'm not sure that's a criticism that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other traps though. he has a keen eye for the present, but then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in the style of This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into the a shared buddhist realm of higher being, t
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687945 << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks ; let alone in 36 yo russian doods.
phf: but then i was at a potomac jew book club where they were discussing generation p (or one of the earlier novels anyway), and they couldn't get past THE HORROR OF THE 90s, literally entire conversations were about omg so much crime. all these people emigrated right after the collapse, where's for me the staple of 90s (oh there's a dead body on the corner, because petya shnur couldn't share the territory with vasya kulak, shrug) were the norm
trinque: can say that "ah I read some alan watts and huxley, my getting high has a point" *was* that kind of signaling in my younger stoner circles, can see how mp would get there.
phf: so reading pelevin back then might've had a very different effect from reading him now. chapayev and pustota then blew my mind because i read it when it came out and it was very present time, but his 2000s stuff i don't get at all (because i read it in u.s. perhaps), and some things didn't age that well.
mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9"
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:17 shinohai:
http://archive.is/tz5DN “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.”
trinque: I've got a gentoo box that's severely tangled due to it having hauled in >gcc-5 with whichever portage gnat, something something ABI change C++2017 bright future (TM)
trinque: attempted a downgrade back to 4.x, how naive!
shinohai: I retardedly did the same thing trinque during one of my earlier attempts w/ ada
mircea_popescu: good thing you two decided to put it in the log, sounds exactly what the baked-in "reasonable" move would be, who knows how many souls it claimed.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9"
trinque: did the "revdep-rebuild" and "fix_libtool_files.sh" and apparently none of these ever conceived of a man that wished to go back
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe they just don't happen to have the magic one. it's my story an' i'm sticking to it till ave1 pops back in.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
shinohai: Hey we make mistakes so you don't have to! (tm)
mircea_popescu: let it be clearly stated that there's no such thing in nature as the isolated republican. true thay you may be busy working for a long time, but in the end, isolated citizen == cpu without i/o.
mircea_popescu: this is not at all a bad idea. possibly more expensive than the originally contemplated.
mircea_popescu is somewhat nonplussed phf sits around "hackerspace" derping with baloons instead of making the shortwave-nat-over-other-peoples-cars thing fore instance.
phf: hmm, perhaps sketchy? dodgy? but yeah, some dimension is lost
mircea_popescu: "frightfully loud in presentation and dubiously effectual in activity"
mircea_popescu: speaking of "why the fuck aren't your clotheslines connected to anything, lamer" : why the ef are they still not making aluminum books ? use 5 mils say, ruberized/siliconized edges...
mircea_popescu: aluminum will go down to 5 micrometers np. this means 1k pages book = 5mm = 1/5th inch thickness.
mircea_popescu: can make PAGE arbitrarily thick so all books are the same thickness throughout, if you want. can do all sorts of things./
mircea_popescu: how is it not a book. will fucking outlats ANY paper support.
mircea_popescu: are you telling me someone tried and hated it ? because hey, tin foil is in every house, no pain to separate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't use electrically isolated pages.
mircea_popescu: right, alf has decided "permanent book, never will rot away" and "1/10th the thickness and 1/3rd the weight of current afid traps" no features./
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oxidation dun matter, you don't write in aluminum on it wtf.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i had taken you for a man who has and lived with a library. i am one of those also, and i have nfi how you can not immediately think of the
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, my library in ro could produce a pail a week. a FULL pail.
mircea_popescu: much better to not have 5 trillion little afid shits eating away at the deliuciouys desert innit now.
mircea_popescu: so you repriont the old ones and need not worry about them.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 23:00 asciilifeform: but as a massively-distributed long-term backup, aluminum is ~unbeaten -- it's probably the only reason asciilifeform was able to find a copy of genera
ag3nt_zer0: mricea_popescu I know your response to my question is run my own node... but if I currently do not have one set up and wanted to be safe with my coins during this nonsense (i.e. take them off of coinbase & store safely), would following pete_dushenski's guide to creating an offline brainwallet utilizing 13 words arrived at through the dice method using only english dictionary be sufficient until I get an up and running trb node? B
ag3nt_zer0: I dont know if there is a risk in transferring NOW seeing as this segwit stuff is going on... is there any kind of chance my coins won't be signed properly or something like this?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i would say so, yes. make sure you use the dicelist method correctly, and make sure the privkey is not exposed to third parties.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 nothing is going on. go right ahead and generate a proper privkey, compute safely its associated address, and move your coins there.
phf goes wherever party tells him to go
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could gild the pages at no extra cost. or you know, plutonim them, platinum them...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i fully agree. that's why i'm nudging the not-entirely-desocialized elements to bring teh light to the masses already.
phf: but my electronics knowledge is limited, so for me durping with one radio transmitter/receiver is no different than another, because the result is going to be my improved understanding but very little in terms of practical results
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:09 mircea_popescu: keep the ewes for meat and the goats for the hilarities.
phf: i'm a soviet man, i prepare my own defense even before i start thinking about doing it
mircea_popescu: my vrag naroda cards aren;t erven back from the shop yet.
mircea_popescu: could by now make ACTUAL bug-sized and looking item, with metal pike, insert into tree. solar + etc. triangulate and what, congrats you found a $15 prize ?
☟︎ mod6: <+asciilifeform> aha, we discussed this << ya, cool idea
mircea_popescu: phf explains to you above -- it has significant training value. BOTH technical and political.
phf: also can probably string them as far as adams morgan zoo from your bunker, have a secondary effect as definitely getting labeled as terrorist when caught (lizard territory)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally, buy a fucking chinese drone, just for the hell of it.
mircea_popescu: (no, as it stands, you could fly it over white house and nobody would know specifically what's going on. they can only detect them when landed in open air.)
phf: drop them from the balloon glider
mircea_popescu: phf you realise that me + daisy rifle = pest control for a fleet of 5k baloons/hour or somesuch ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, right, he's gonna disperse his launch pads over a 1200km area
mircea_popescu: he's goingto have one launchy spot, and ima sit in a chair across the street from it.
phf: see, sergey, that's why launching at night!
mircea_popescu: oh, i gotta get the stage whores get me a spot light too ?! say it's not so, inconvenience unthinkable.
mircea_popescu: o look, the daisy 499b (200 bux) actuallyu does 73mps muzzle velocity. i can even sit across parking lot.
mircea_popescu: i can shoot fucking squirrels your fined baloon is gonna do anything ?
mod6: anyway, finned ballon follows pattern; you just learn to lead 'em
mircea_popescu: fucking squirrels. try leading those for a nervewracking experience.
mod6: yeah they turn on dimes.
mircea_popescu: this convo with the "fin!!!" thing is eerily reminescent of early crypto discussion s, at that.
mircea_popescu: "i will derive my entropy from physical processes nearby!" "o aren't you cute"
mircea_popescu: or a friend. or nothing at all, his bb goes 70 meters a second, your baloon maybe .5
mircea_popescu: you could prolly get the street urchins involved, if only you can provide rifles for them. this is becoming a sort of "isis in mosul" deal
mircea_popescu: ima link to this next time you say anything in the vein to me.\
mircea_popescu: "the obvious solution to acoso callejero is to not go around where horny males can see you"
mircea_popescu: if it costs dearly it's gonna be a chopper noit a balloon.
mircea_popescu: aha. just how many kinds of spherical vacuums do you have in that belt of yours ?
mircea_popescu: it's iffy. i suppose by now we actually should employ a china-based supplies expert ?
mircea_popescu: by the time it'll be 5 years old, like the "we should have isp expert" thing is, we'll have it just as solved as the isp thing is solved.
mircea_popescu: is this something the foundation may maybe consider ? open us an embassy in beijing, hire a chick to sit there 4 hours/day or such ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o no. sits for specified 4 hours, has link here, gets specific tasks...
mircea_popescu: this, candi_flesh herding. if you say what you just said you merely pump up her anxiety. no, it's "make list of so and so websites. make list of so and so items." etcetera.
mircea_popescu: works better for well understood tasks in well mapped spaces.
mircea_popescu: in any event, the business case is right here : if hireling gets 2k/month and takes less trhan a week to find alf's above 5k esp8266s at 22cents each, we in fact have positive roi on the scheme (for that week).
mircea_popescu: we can use her to i dunno, open a booth at chinese university distribute flyers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a bad strategy but not immune to augmenting.
mircea_popescu: besides, a mail point in the empire of the future can't hurt anything, and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: so the bidniss case is here. mostly a matter of whether we can get the ops together.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:22 asciilifeform: '“Fact-toxic” information pertains to actual truths which, the document complains, are “exposed in the absence of context”, and therefore poison “important political discourse.” Such information is seen as being most potent in triggering outbreaks of civil unrest , because it: “… fatally weakens foundational security at an international, regional, national, or personal level. Indeed, fact-toxic exposures are those lik
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:44 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687977 << mostly age, the few years that i'm younger than you i think made all the difference in the 90s scheme of things. by the time i "queuing up in the recruitment strip" it was tail end of the epoch
mircea_popescu: i was ungodly young, by all accounts, to the point of giving the older people pause. and this was WITH my great benefit of easily passing in person for significantly older than i actually was.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:45 asciilifeform: ( it was his formative trauma )
trinque: wait, you were saying his trauma was not going to ww1?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe he is correct re similar, but incorrect in the anchor. he, and most other folks who went, were actually looking for the golden excuse.
mircea_popescu: there's great relief, you see, in my own mind, by simply noticing that, "hey, i was dead about twenty years ago ANYWAY. what do i care".
mircea_popescu: this is something a certain sort of mind can simply take or leave ; but another sort absolutely desperately craves.
mircea_popescu: "everything from here on end is just gravy", as it were.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:08 mircea_popescu: could by now make ACTUAL bug-sized and looking item, with metal pike, insert into tree. solar + etc. triangulate and what, congrats you found a $15 prize ?
phf: also shoots one bullet
mircea_popescu: i have a naked girl in my livingroom on all fours with a brush going at the carpet. whom should i call ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of whch, i so don't fucking understand why ~all female cosmetics don't come in dildo packages anyway ?
mircea_popescu: you know it's the only common element in the preteen masturbatory history of all girls i met ?
mircea_popescu: not rly, if you look closely most have dumbass ridges lips etc in the way.
mircea_popescu: why not you know, dick-mold the things from the get go
mircea_popescu: i naively thought industry is all about serving the market ; not about trying to impose strange ideologies upon it.
ave1: asciilifeform: for
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688362, it looks like you are building with adacore 2016 edition, could you try with the 2015 edition (no need to do a real install, just unpack it and set path to the bin dir will be enough)
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 14:25 asciilifeform: ^ eggog
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor
ave1: I'll look into getting it to work with 2016 in the mean time...
mircea_popescu: dun worry about the rest unless you for some peculiar reason actually want to
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:48 asciilifeform: trinque: 'uncle vanya will giveya some work'
ave1: hmm, the musl-cross repository was hg but should not be needed, will remove
ave1: as I had it too, it skipped my attention
ave1: I see it was just so that a little id could be printed in the end, very stupid
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 16:12 trinque: I'm 30 now; 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?"
mircea_popescu: even the shitty "i'm not even trying" melody is part of the experience.
trinque: strikes me every time when I get a whiff of the apparent.. "placehood" what american folks would've referred to as the "post-soviet collapse space" of the 90s, had
trinque: meanwhile the dirt that "won the cold war" no placehood my entire lifetime.
mircea_popescu: the cold war was won in the manner of soccer game behind the apt building being won by other team's mom calling kids in for dinner.
mircea_popescu: "totally... and tomorrow in school these assholes are gonna have sukhois and we'll get an F in algebra"
mircea_popescu: "let your balalaika sing what my guitar wants to say"...
mircea_popescu: "and don't forget to release the nuclear dancing bear..."
mircea_popescu: "to the magic of the moment on a glory night... here's more words without any particular meanings... it's the way of tomooooroooo"
phf: heh, you know for how iconoclast petshopboys were i never even thought about "go west" being tongue in cheek. at the time pet shop boys were moscows bards of freedom so of course they would sing go west in earnest. fwiw, they tried warning us, but you had to be in the know to get it
mircea_popescu: it was transparent to me, at the time. but then again i'm weird.
mircea_popescu: it IS shocking to revisit, though. "quite ?!" overpowers the mind.
mircea_popescu: phf in fairness might be an age thing again. a few years make all the difference in humor like in war.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 16:15 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687972 << i'm not sure that's a criticism that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other traps though. he has a keen eye for the present, but then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in the style of This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into the a shared buddhist realm of higher being, t
mircea_popescu: "keen eye for the superficial" is not much of a qualification.
phf: "helllooo springfield!!!1 --- omg it's us, he's talking about us"
☟︎ trinque: > feel like a lady, and you my ladyboy
mircea_popescu: says the fucking words, you know ? "you should be stronger than me". dood...
☟︎ phf: 27, she's a member of the 27 club
mircea_popescu: !~google "bondage crazed amy just can't beehive in bed"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:41 asciilifeform: lol i luvv that scene
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 02:15 mircea_popescu: and they existed very much because ro girls, unlike russki stupid cunts, did NOT perceive themselves at some kind of liberty to not whore up for the gangster class.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 02:50 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no. i recall the faggots, not yet VERY overweight, going to the things that meanwhile got captured by apple, much like coca-cola captured xmas << In elementry school historical context for the then present was established to be "on the verge of paradise, if only we stop littering"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now if they only made the spiked bb already. << They do sell for air rifle.
mircea_popescu: pro tip : most rapists prefer the body subdued but still warm.
mircea_popescu: and back to cabaret, it's plain to everyone joel grey's role is quite literally morte, the ace of spades, the xiiith card ? which is why he's in the morgige tag scene right at the end.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> really ? does it shoot out of lise barrel ? << Shoots out of .177 caliber barrel, standard ammo for air pellet rifle
shinohai: ^ I love those crossman destroyers ... perfect for taking out varmits
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski So, question of the day. How does infant car seat handle in Blackzilla?
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
mod6: im just lucky that the woodpeckers go after the trees as opposed to the structure, or i'd be spending a lot more time in the backyard like rambo
BingoBoingo: Well, legacy GOP appointee recommended by Priebus
mircea_popescu: anyway, the old "gop" dorks fell over like so much paper candles, the traditional senatorial refuge in disease and bodily weakness. guy won his home front, no question.
BingoBoingo: Of course he was going to suck. Didn't believe in "The Great Again" and tried repping Trump like a Lindsey Graham oldster.
BingoBoingo: Well, I put in my application this winter.
BingoBoingo: If he fails to find me through having the wrong rats read applciations, it is his failure. Unlike Obamacare he owns this failure to hire.
trinque: but dakka driven ordnance needs more dakka
mircea_popescu: er blockt hinauf in himmels au'n wo heldengeister niederschaun'n -- alle schiessen stachelig kugeln!
BingoBoingo: In other quotes from the wild: “The question that needs to be answered is, was this shooting a mistake or was it a “cultural seizure” by a Muslim officer who snapped and acted irrationally at the sight of a woman in her pajamas?”
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BingoBoingo: And the latest from the delusionists: "If Trump abuses his presidential powers to pardon in a way that obstructs justice, he could be prosecuted under a future administration."