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trinque: seems like a decent box for bitcoin dev and other projects
trinque: price is a little oddly low
trinque: waiting on the guy's response
BingoBoingo: 24BG of RAM on an Opteron machine at that price, shit is better than Ebay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42921 @ 0.00053831 = 23.1048 BTC [-]
gernika: BingoBoingo I paid roughly 7x for a similar configuration (new)
cazalla: "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen: These are very complicated issues, and we are putting a lot of thought into it." bit of a contradiction eh
BingoBoingo: Voat just has growing pains. The fat hate movement isn't the only thing carrying Voat anymore.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84048 @ 0.00054298 = 45.6364 BTC [+]
trinque: aw yeah, hp server guy replied
trinque: claims it lived in a climate-controlled data center its whole life
trinque: probably true, given what it is
trinque: I wonder if a local tech company went under
BingoBoingo contemplating blasphemy and getting a "late model" mac
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.000574 = 16.359 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo getting tempted into a mac mini by cheap machine spacific colo offers
trinque: seems otherwise like a good snag of amd hardware
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looking used. Trying to find hosts that take similar machines for colo at similar prices.
BingoBoingo: I might start mailing some of these people about whenther they take machines smaller than mac mini at mac mini rate
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well I'm looking at services like this
http://macstadium.com/colo and a few other options that go down to $25-26, but so far this one has the least objectional terms
BingoBoingo: Would use to run many-connections bitcoin node plus services, and maybe a couple static html pages
BingoBoingo: May try shoving pc engines in mac mini chassis
BingoBoingo: Generally been pricing 2011 and earlier minis (including G4 models)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (the jacks have to line up with the holes, no?) Only eth0 jack matters... Arts&Crafts
BingoBoingo: If configured at home is kvm even necessary?
BingoBoingo: Most of these services seem to have a daily charge for troubleshooting with their KVM adapters
BingoBoingo: Colo host to get box out of house so I don't have to see macbomination
BingoBoingo: Also configure at home seems like a nice alternative to cpanel dedibortion or vps.
BingoBoingo: Want machine to live in datacenter, not eating home bandwidth. getting maximal bitcoind connections at min dollars
BingoBoingo: Saw at Godaddy in the past... Apparently powers their shared hosting
trinque: we (which is to say they) used it at an old shitty php job
trinque: that was a lulzy job; worked on software for those ebay pawn shops
BingoBoingo was planning if acquired mac mini to install max ram, max sub $200 SSD, OpenBSD 5.6, Set up SSH keys, bitcoind sync, and ship
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:23; pete_dushenski: instead they have -dozens- of fiefdoms, all pledging allegiance to an ideology and a black flag
mod6: BingoBoingo: i was kinda thinkin the same thing, could be a market for someone to just ship a drive ready to go.
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:38; trinque: mongols had a khan
trinque: state of the art fighting techniques too
trinque: and then held down a vast empire with a sane legal system and so on
trinque: these are a bunch of twitter-posting imbeciles with AKs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43546 @ 0.00055289 = 24.0761 BTC [-]
trinque: that's not really fair, they are also whatever's left of saddam's army
BingoBoingo: ISIS takes state of the art fighting weapons and USia spends Imperial treasure on F-35 redefining state of the art as shittier
mats: plenty of war materiel and munitions for purchase
mats: no reason why they can't subsist on ru supply chain indefinitely
mats: NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price
mats: just, you know, not directly.
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 23:21:27; trinque: so don't use bitpay, guy
danielpbarron: mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << reminds me of Milo from Catch-22
☟︎ trinque: asciilifeform: could always accept them directly then turn into USD through the usual channels
☟︎ trinque: or CAD or whatever they like best
mats: plenty of middlemen to be had for the right price as far as i can see
trinque: well I'm not sure, is there a sort of AML/KYC equivalent for donations?
mats: for the folks cashing btc, prob
trinque: if so, it plainly illustrates the degree to which these things have crept forward..
trinque: I can toss a 50 into the goodwill box anonymously, but not BTC
trinque: no one ever busted up a piss-odorous santa ringing his bell outside walmart
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op << My impression is BitPay is under such constraints because born insufficiently USG, now merely avoiding a Shreming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00053831 = 4.145 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 20:32:43; mircea_popescu: anyway, run your own .6 or .7 and see what happens.
danielpbarron: you want me to boot it up? I bet it will still be wedged as I haven't done anything to it
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 01:55:19; trinque: asciilifeform: could always accept them directly then turn into USD through the usual channels
danielpbarron: i'm sure I can manually feed it blocks or whatever the fix is, but my 0.5.3.1-beta node didn't need manual intervention / is currently synced
trinque departs to pick up new puter
danielpbarron: also i've been saving up debug.log between restarts via cat .bitcoin/debug.log >> debug.log
danielpbarron: yes I now see why that would be better and feel foolish for the way I had been doing it
danielpbarron: funny too because I have tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log going 24/7 but as a way of monitoring it
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ag3nt_zer0: "While Western mathematicians often claim Western mathematics is universal, anti-racist mathematics and ethnomathematics scholars share the assumption that any given mathematical understanding or practice is a product of a particular culture.[4] Scholars such as C. K. Raju have advocated multicultural mathematics, in which different cultures can develop different forms of mathematics."
mircea_popescu: cazalla ah the mystery unravels, they wanted the guy as ceo so as to buy some legitimacy for something stupid they want to do.
mircea_popescu: in other news : i am satisfied that the 363730 fork and the 363730-363736 dead chain contain nothing remarkable from a "hey guise they switched out the blokchanin" perspective. so i'm letting this rest.
mircea_popescu: of their time (at their prime, that is), on their own. << in no way did they do this. they merely went around with a horde of gypsies, chinese, etc. heck, the siege of byzantium used a hungarian cannonmaster.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, the few captive "us trainers" they have work exactly like the mongols'
mircea_popescu: <mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << god knows romania has been doing it for a decade straight.
ag3nt_zer0: it would be cool if readers in this group had a "Recommended readings" list or something... that would be awesome actually
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime' << used to shop at their equiv in ro. "selgros".
mats: dunno, i see plenty of lumpens coming in for rx and alcohol
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: php got Eulora running on OSX... did he do anything different than is on the wiki?
mats: they can't exclude plebs for those particular purchases i believe
mircea_popescu: the romania version requires you to have a corp registered
mats: really? no MC/Visa?
ag3nt_zer0: I was following then got all paranoid and been stuck on researching what GCC is, whether or not it can compromise system, and whether this is all an elaborate scam to get my non-existent bitcoins
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 gcc is the basic compiler. your kernel was compiled in it.
mats: never seen one like that. but i have been tempted to get a 'costco amex', the rates are good and amex has historically had great customer service
mats: and i hear their entire back-end is mostly paper
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mats: aha. nope << Other cards still work if processed as "debit" rather than "credit"
mod6: so i've got the two binaries recompiled, not stripped. not exactly sure what i'm looking for in here. doing a diff with objdump.
mod6: i have serached forward to SSL
mats: that sounds dicey. wouldn't want to input a PIN at their POS
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a miracle of fiat makingall sorts of distinctions where same accounts use many different payment network messes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the terms of chargebacks more often
danielpbarron prefers to use cash whereever possible so as to give merchant the option of keeping it "under the table"
mats: asciilifeform: is there a repository on the internets somewhere for windows symbol files (not Windows Symbol Server)?
mats: i'm looking for a pdb to 'vwififlt.sys', for an intel wifi card i believe
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ag3nt_zer0: Today I was looking at LoperOS and one of the things I read was his article about the kill switch... searched the logs for commentary but didn't find too much. But I thought maybe I had read something addressing it on Trilema... is that right?
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BingoBoingo: <mats> dunno, i see plenty of lumpens coming in for rx and alcohol << Rules for this happen on a state-by-state basis. Normally the "shame" keeps all but saviest lumps out
ag3nt_zer0: was Vorhees correct in his assertion that the study was "fatally flawed" for not accounting for numerous "ewallets" being strung to one address?
BingoBoingo: <ag3nt_zer0> was Vorhees correct in his assertion that the study was "fatally flawed" for not accounting for numerous "ewallets" being strung to one address? << at the time likely in part
decimation: re: costco amex < yeah I posted about this awhile ago. turns out amex didn't want to 'make a deal' to keep costco, and instead steer their business toward servicing poor folks at walmart
decimation has costco amex, will drop when replaced next year
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah it is lulzy. I've heard from some small time merchants that amex dropped their transaction fees below visa/mc
decimation: they know a huge chunk of their business comes from rich folks with costco amex cards
decimation: asciilifeform: also somewhat little known about costco amex: you can walk in with your annual refund check and they will pay you in cash
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: could be wrong but I thought he was addressing the tx volume with that statement
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: oh that was you... very enjoyable reading btw...
decimation: asciilifeform: all that early btc is probably offset by the big chunk that has been lost forever
BingoBoingo: So Iran nuclear deal... Only actual impact is Persian agricultural goods pricing Israeli agricultural goods out of the market?
mod6: well, at least `objdump -T bitcoind` shows: objdump: bitcoind-woNoShared: not a dynamic object \ DYNAMIC SYMBOL TABLE: \ no symbols
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: do you still consider the bitcoin-p option as viable?
ag3nt_zer0: "adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form" << via buterin's waterfall?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 232300 @ 0.00055483 = 128.887 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: til that if you chown public_html away from apache squirrelmail fails to function anymore
BingoBoingo: In other news, apparently parts of the US can make actual cheese
decimation: asciilifeform: you should try 'wegmans'
trinque: if the seller is to be believed, this is the old kernel.org server... LOL?!
mod6: 475M bitcoind-woNoShared.s << lol
trinque: alright, so how do we find the govt-grade malware embedded in this thing's mobo?
mod6: <+trinque> if the seller is to be believed, this is the old kernel.org server... LOL?! << wat srsly?
trinque: though it's been wiped by the owner in between me and kernel.org
trinque: got 8 scsi drives though, so maybe there are goods to be found
mod6: let's see if i can break diff...
decimation: asciilifeform: lol they don't wipe drives?
decimation: too bad you don't have such goods for smbx
BingoBoingo: Anyone as of yet spot my OpenBSD 0.7-ish build in the wild. Returns version 0.7.3.9 for the time being
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Build on OpenBSD with flags I use and missing from 0.5.x atm like getpeerinfo
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: working on understanding it first
BingoBoingo: Will likely get actual minrelaytxfee patch in first
BingoBoingo: turns out in original I had helpfile line wrong
decimation: asciilifeform: the most interesting part to me are the silicon design tools
decimation: they might be shitware, but could be the nucleus of non-winblows designware
decimation: everything had to work and not be bloatware
decimation: asciilifeform: do you sometimes phantasize about locking a group of promising young grads on an deserted island with only circa 1985 tools?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to cook my dinner, i suppose << Janatorial duties
trinque: I'd much rather automate things than have help
trinque: as if to drive the point home, some fucking drunk bum is hollering
decimation: asciilifeform: can shape desired object out of bondo?
trinque: cannot find a single mention on the web for geb2.kernel.org
trinque: maybe it was an internal hostname
trinque: however I do find mention of these model HP servers being donated
BingoBoingo: Image the Hard drives, wipe all the everything
trinque: I've got a 2tb I can dd all the drives to
decimation: heh I forgot that paragraph from yarvin: "
decimation: The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office."
decimation: "But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded to perfection and painted with meticulous care."
trinque: and yet, yachts, hookers and blow have already been invented
trinque: another website I've snapped up in entirety
ag3nt_zer0: danielpbarron: is that your booklist? I would be happy to see your list, the ones that cater to or inform your self-identification as a religious thinker, if you ever have the inclination to share...
pete_dushenski: shanghai composite was on track for another losing day and now it's, well, FLATLINED
pete_dushenski: guessing the federalis stepped in again to make sure that 'confidence is restored' or some such
pete_dushenski: pretty lulzy way to operate a 'market' but hey, you don't mess with the emperor over there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63279 @ 0.00054694 = 34.6098 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: on the canadian side of the world of skewed incentives, this waterloo police officer plead guilty for breach of trust and was paid $350k over the next 3 years to golf and suntan.
mthreat: search is back up. I'll be moving it to another server soon.
assbot: ‘Dream come true': Ex-Waterloo Regional Police officer mockingly thanks force for paid suspension | National Post ... (
http://bit.ly/1I1jEUY )
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pete_dushenski: i sorta doubt that many 18-20 year olds today are up on chinese 'democratic' history from before they were born
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: can you enlighten me re: 'actual account' ?
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2014 05:09:14; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you familiar with china's reply to 'why did you roll up the (tiananmen) students (molotov-armed, by some reliable accounts - also with grenades) with tanks ?'
ag3nt_zer0: fair enough, maybe I am a gland junkie but I still find some of this stuff mildly shocking
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2014 19:43:12; asciilifeform: btw the chinese have scholars, of 'soviet collapse studies,' and some of their output is rather interesting and educational
ag3nt_zer0: yeah the accounts by the reporters in the hotel of the sounds of the bones and skulls being crushed kind of got my endocrines goin
pete_dushenski: that it's already in the logs... i dun really give a shit about ag3nt_zer0's hormones !
ag3nt_zer0: forgot the documentary but it was about the guy who shot the tank man video... and how that video barely made it out
ag3nt_zer0: with a mild speculative inference that it was instrumental in inspiring the geramns to topple the wall
pete_dushenski: cazalla: if it makes you feel better, it's the same story in vancouver.
☟︎ ag3nt_zer0: yeah I hear you. ftr I didn't mean to imply that I concluded anything...
pete_dushenski: not that i really give a shit about vancouver, mind you, but it's sorta kinda not really in my backyard atm.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: I am guessing not in the way that you might be about to tell me?
pete_dushenski: "hey u guise, i have a capital idea ! mebbe no one will notice that we've inflated trillion of worthless rmb into our 'markets' if we change the colours of the stop lights at the intersection !"
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: bah, get out. there's a recipe for stock market accounting and sse is playing games.
pete_dushenski: or mebbe i'm a johnny come lately cynic. also possibru.
pete_dushenski: is it some kind of fucking mid-day national holiday in shanghai ?
pete_dushenski: and i can't seem to source an explanation for the bloody thing
pete_dushenski: "Roman Dahl @dahlroman 2m2 minutes ago #Chinese GDP beats the estm. 7% Y/Y vs 6.8%; Shanghai -2.17%; 24% of firms in trading halt."
pete_dushenski: another halt. so that's two in the past 5 trading sessions then ?
pete_dushenski: fuck, no wonder even 'foxconn' is getting the hell outta dodge and moving 1 mn workers to india
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
pete_dushenski: "A flight attendant testified Lander and Jason George Chase, a co-accused, used a coat to cover their laps to fondle each other." << on air canada flight. both 'criminals' now under house arrest and/or probation.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 'likely' being based on the peoples and their geography
pete_dushenski: well to be fair to afghanistan, it's producing heroin like never before
pete_dushenski: gotta use what's available, not just whatever you'd like
pete_dushenski: so mebbe factories are better in india and china, and poppy plantations are better in afghanistan, and wheat fields in ukraine
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:28:22; asciilifeform: because american factory gurlz want toilet breaks, health care!, etc
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:26:01; asciilifeform: japan jumped the gap - why? because they had the 'natural resource'
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:26:18; asciilifeform: - that being, six generations of people willing to work into the grave for a cup of rice
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welshjf: howdy mircea_popescu, just lurking :)
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ben_vulpes: <phf> ben_vulpes: eventually, aha. i'm not even sure yet that i can repeat the process. for example part of build process is a script that chooses between gcc-4.6 and clang based on whether it's .c or .mm. the fact that the result links i think is a miracle << bwahahahahahaha
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ag3nt_zer0: splendid, went to a kind of groceries shop where pr0l3z are not permitted (costs a hundy/yr to enter) << the things you find entertaining, i swear
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> no photo card - no enter. << that this is enforced at yours is very indicative of the differences between our corners of usistan
ben_vulpes: * danielpbarron prefers to use cash whereever possible so as to give merchant the option of keeping it "under the table" << where i come we call this the "cascadian discount"
ben_vulpes: pay in cash for a 15% discount. half of the savings from not paying the tax man to the person paying, half to the merchant.
ben_vulpes: why anyone would pay cash without this arrangement boggles.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> In other news, apparently parts of the US can make actual cheese << what hellhole do you live in that doesn't have fresh cheese maiden made at every monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday and sunday farmer's market?
ben_vulpes: in other news, my bloodily hacked together stator has achieved block 331707
ben_vulpes: lol nothing to it beyond applying patches
ben_vulpes: the most marvelous achievement of mine is the time allocated to reading patches
ben_vulpes: <trinque> another website I've snapped up in entirety << have you pared it down to just text yet?
trinque: no, probably trivial with w3m or something
ben_vulpes: i have a whole weekend of plane flights and insane fambly ahead
ben_vulpes: best thing to possibly have on the screen are gpg-grams and cpp
ben_vulpes: although i'm going to miss my new ergonomic keyboard
ben_vulpes: it set in on a particularly long bike ride on a particularly shitty bike
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97450 @ 0.00054982 = 53.58 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: after which i mused to myself about vibrating handles and mircea_popescu's computer use wisdom
trinque: ^ which causes me to notice...
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "A flight attendant testified Lander and Jason George Chase, a co-accused, used a coat to cover their laps to fondle each other." << on air canada flight. both 'criminals' now under house arrest and/or probation. << i can't figure for whom this is a problem
trinque: getting pretty unimpressed with tenyks.
ben_vulpes: i for one have fondled and been fondled on many a flight with zero harrasment from either other passengers or flight staff
ben_vulpes: perhaps i do not intend to 'own the space' as mircea_popescu describes the act
ben_vulpes: the funny thing about my stator is that i have a binary called bitcoind-7-11-patched-with-dumpblock
trinque: heh, I did the same on a school trip's flight back from colorado
trinque: with a chick I hooked up with on the trip
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trinque: so far I tend to think the object system is for UI doodads, not for the data model
ben_vulpes: but imagine if you were actually into self-serializing data structures you could hang all sorts of useful stuff off of CLOS classes that did db queries transparently
trinque: I tend to think Table is an object, not Customer
trinque: otherwise you have two ever-diverging data models to constantly sync up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81100 @ 0.00055522 = 45.0283 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: or you only use the features in the "upper" model
trinque: I still don't see how I'd use CLOS like I use view composition in the db
☟︎ ben_vulpes: our lispy crud stuff doesn't even formalize 'models'
ben_vulpes: we just have a bunch of functions called reset-password, set-user-whatever, update-user-whatever
☟︎ trinque: I think that's the right way.
ben_vulpes: that poke mother pg in all of the right spots
ben_vulpes: the weakness is that we don't use database constraints, which is where the oop model shines a bit
ben_vulpes: we just kinda hand-wave and say "yeah man there are users, and this is how we diddle them in the database in this particular way"
trinque: can always throw an error if a particular slot is initialized to nil
ben_vulpes: i guess this is the "small teams and discipline" approach
ben_vulpes: db constraints seem like a decent step.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21013 @ 0.00055579 = 11.6788 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: but on the flipside, another deploy target
trinque: in particular what I like about the approach of just editing the db is it doesn't try to say this is a "customer" action or an "order" or so on
trinque: bolting the behavior to anything other than a symbol is retarded
trinque: if you wanna mention "customer" in the name of the function, great
trinque: hm from a perspective that is advocating a lack of constraints
trinque: as for db constraints, they can at least help when some logic is easier expressed if it is assumed that the data model has some expected structure
trinque: rather than having if statements handling the lack of that part of the data model in code
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trinque: I wanna build a bastard lisp for the webasm thing
trinque: and just fart graphics onto a canvas or webgl
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00055554 = 5.6771 BTC [-]
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assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 04:58:07; pete_dushenski: cazalla: if it makes you feel better, it's the same story in vancouver.
chetty: just think how great the net would be if all of a sudden all the ddos stopped, wonder what % of net traffic is that?
mircea_popescu: suppose all the idiots running stupid shit, random nat routers, bad wp installs, etc, got forbidden from the net.
mircea_popescu: take aol back. we don't want it, we never wanted it, fuck the fucking open-to-idiots internet.
mircea_popescu: the bovine sort of "people" libertardism/welfarism produces have really no place. not on the net, not under the sun, not anywhere. drop dead and spare the earth spurious shadows.
ben_vulpes: "i have been typing a lot and my hand hurts"
dignork: mircea_popescu: it sounds almost possible – claim damages against each of DDOS participants, 0.5 btc each for example. But these claims cannot be enforced.
ben_vulpes: i would like to know how mircea_popescu operates the computer machine healthily if he does not suffer from this affliction, or fear it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00055591 = 27.7955 BTC [+]
cazalla: we have another name for rsi down under.. wankers cramp
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 22:11:24; artifexd: Bottom line, I expect to have something to share for testing in 4 weeks.
trinque: artifexd: any progress? eagerly awaited
trinque: much better platform than this webapp bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15522 @ 0.00055591 = 8.6288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49350 @ 0.0005506 = 27.1721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66935 @ 0.00054422 = 36.4274 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103400 @ 0.00053641 = 55.4648 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59312 @ 0.00053821 = 31.9223 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42903 @ 0.00054397 = 23.3379 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118900 @ 0.00054519 = 64.8231 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92006 @ 0.00055328 = 50.9051 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.0005464 = 16.7472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 159100 @ 0.00053865 = 85.6992 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51759 @ 0.00053467 = 27.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71250 @ 0.00054857 = 39.0856 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39521 @ 0.00055402 = 21.8954 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: oh wow, we're graced by a Freenode staff member
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72229 @ 0.00055657 = 40.2005 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 4574 of that crap, in a 4797 total txn block (avg is about 500-1k these days)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00054514 = 9.4309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00054119 = 23.8665 BTC [-]
Naphex: cazalla: reddit has been hit hard by the eternal september. you gotta be brain dead to even lurk around nowadays
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00054119 = 4.3295 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "But... the most delicious part of this is that on at least two separate occasions, the board pressed /u/ekjp to outright ban ALL the hate subreddits in a sweeping purge. She resisted, knowing the community, claiming it would be a shitshow. Ellen isn't some "evil, manipulative, out-of-touch incompetent she-devil" as was often depicted. She was approved by the board and recommended by me because when I left, she was the
mircea_popescu: only technology executive anywhere who had the chops and experience to manage a startup of this size, AND who understood what reddit was all about. "
mircea_popescu: she's a fucktard, she has exactly no expertise or chops, and decade old failures are start-ups just like fifty year old starlets.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's refreshing to see the new/old tarddit ceo is just as unreadable / mentally disorganised / clueless as the average poster there.
Naphex: how long can you be called a startup anyway? reddit is like 10 years old or what o.O;
mircea_popescu: well in lalaland words don't necessarily mean anything. especially if they sound good.
mircea_popescu: (where sound good = "i've heard it a lot, and the context seemed to me positive")
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102247 @ 0.00053328 = 54.5263 BTC [-] {2}
Naphex: mircea_popescu: decent. trafic slowed down a bit.
Naphex: working on getting more girls and studios on board, while trying to avoid all the chicken and eggs
mircea_popescu: if you ever decide for a big move, i wanna hear all about how it went.
Naphex: trafic slowing down and hard as hell to sync the girls with the customers but happens on the rare ocasions
mircea_popescu: i'm currently very meh on the entire "advertising" bs.
mircea_popescu: "i know half my advertising money is wasted, and i can tell you exactly which half : both of them!"
Naphex: advertising doesn't work at all atm
cazalla: Naphex, how do you compete with something like mfc and livejasmin?
Naphex: every try failed, hard so its all organic trafic
Naphex: cazalla: easy. fast setup, fast payouts and none of the stupid shitty rules.
Naphex: i'll be launching a refferal program for xotika.tv later this week. hopefully it will help with the activit
Naphex: thinking 5...10% of the mbtc tips routed to the referral
cazalla: can't imagine how i'd market it seeing i jump straight to mfc and don't bother googling .. perhaps keywords related to the country the girl is from might work "korean cam girl" type phrases
fluffypony: cazalla: yeah, I'd also guess that long-tail keywords are good in that space
cazalla: fluffypony, yeah i'd target that and if Naphex is offering 5-10% of the the tips as referall payments, pay those you sign up 1/3 to 1/2 of that to sweeten it and incentivise em to use your links (i wonder how this would work with coinbase $25 sign up.. offer em $10 additional bonus)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36714 @ 0.00055706 = 20.4519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5936 @ 0.00055928 = 3.3199 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, if you wish to try for it : buysellads takes btc and handles coinbase. they do a patently insane .1 btc CPM so i really don't advise it.
cazalla: not too keen, can't imagine the demand for new coinbase accounts is that great unless they're coming from stolen ids and shit
shinohai: coinbase will pay u up to $20 for a legit new account. whiz bang!
cazalla: $25 i thought.. but really, that method isn't much different from roger ver's idea to set up a table in starbucks and sell starbuck vouchers via that bitcoin site wahtever the fuck it is called, forget
nubbins`: starbucks would 100% kick you out
nubbins`: you're not even allowed to take photographs inside one
Naphex: cazalla YOU MARKET TO BITCOINERS
nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. "
☟︎ shinohai: There was a guy caught filming women whizzing in the bathroom at a starbucks near me.
cazalla: shinohai, they made that illegal here even if done in public
cazalla: that sparked some reading into the issue where i learned some dudes are so keen on this and they have shoe spy cams
shinohai: yeah they charged this guy with cp distribution because his sdcard contained childreen
☟︎ cazalla: Naphex, tough sell to market to bitcoiners though.. i don't know what the numbers for mfc are like but i don't imagine more than 5% of visitors actually buy coins to tip the ladies with.. fewer people have bitcoins and i'd bet a smaller percent would be willing to part with em for cam girls, at least at this point in time
Naphex: cazalla: they actually do convert
cazalla: mircea_popescu, any idea what a site like mfc converts at?
mircea_popescu: when they first came out they were actually doing pretty good
mircea_popescu: for a brief year or two it actually looked like they may save pron from the tubedeath.
cazalla: there are so many girls on mfc giving it up for free too
Naphex: Amt: 9.69881492 btcdrak AFKey: directCount:14277 <- xotika stats, first month
Naphex: so its actually pretty good
Naphex: the count is the # of unique sessions, viewed stream
cazalla: i wonder if a clips4sale.com bitcoin clone might do ok
mircea_popescu dreams of a future where xotika-eulora have integration and people can go wank in a mmorpg
cazalla: those type of sites seem popular
Naphex: my biggest problem atm is getting rid of the damn blockings. Performers will come check the site for visitors before streaaming
Naphex: viewers check for online channels
Naphex: and nobody does a thing lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00055871 = 28.997 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42064 @ 0.00055929 = 23.526 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 13:00:52; shinohai: yeah they charged this guy with cp distribution because his sdcard contained childreen
mircea_popescu: so then they can convict him for using a terrorist device in furterance of a terrorist plot.
mircea_popescu: there exist no technical solutions to political problems.
mircea_popescu: the solution to political problems is, was always and will forever remain, the beheading of the individuals causing it.
mircea_popescu: yes but this is a purely aesthetic option on your part
mircea_popescu: like some women would rather go around nude in high heels.
nubbins`: only so much you can learn from a manual
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 11:39:46; mircea_popescu: 4574 of that crap, in a 4797 total txn block (avg is about 500-1k these days)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73419 @ 0.00055935 = 41.0669 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: dns1-5.registrar-servers.com looks like the registrar maintains your ns.
nubbins`: like having to let the stove cool down before switching pots
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52769 @ 0.00056314 = 29.7163 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: cut the breaker at the box, let the iron cool
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 12:57:37; nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. "
☟︎ nubbins`: of course, past performance is not an indicator of &c &c
nubbins`: this kicked up a bit of a stink here yesterday:
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 14:29:58; assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 12:57:37; nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. "
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc, a kg of brown substance that's 5% hashish and 95% chocolate is considered a kg of hash
nubbins`: asciilifeform this was a city assessor demanding entry under threat of fines
nubbins`: council decided they'd better clear the air today:
nubbins`: “If you refuse them entry into the home, that’s fine. The assessor won’t go any further with that. The assessment work is then done from outside the home.”
nubbins`: council clarified they're specifically not "inspecting" or looking for code violations
nubbins`: just extra apartments, additions, etc that'd impact prop tax
nubbins`: asciilifeform landlords have the right to inspect property here with 24h notice
nubbins`: somewhat related, we've decided to keep the second house for another 5
nubbins`: i am two mortgages, hear me roar
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the "laboratory testing" where some woman in mass was found to have out and out lied over thousands of cases, resulting in a bazillion overturn or retried cases ?
nubbins`: somewhat related, the interest rates on mortgages are INSANE right now
nubbins`: they wouldn't because then there would be no labs left
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. it's probably rampant, half the labs just fgind what the da says and the rest have no clue what year it is.
nubbins`: i think we renewed at smth like 2.5%?
nubbins`: mine from ~4 years ago is around 3.6%
nubbins`: thought about selling the second home
nubbins`: decided we probably would not be in a position to repurchase a second home in the future, should we so desire
gribble: Error: "so" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: see, if you didn't do enough drugs in your youth ? nubbins` got you licked.
assbot: Texas town adds sugar to water supply to encourage residents to drink more water - Home | This is That with Pat Kelly and Peter Oldring | CBC Radio ... (
http://bit.ly/1K7u3Pv )
nubbins`: i read this with wide-eyed amazement until they said 4 tbsp of sugar per 8oz water
nubbins`: then was mildly annoyed at myself
nubbins`: "we don't just talk about the issues, we fabricate them"
nubbins`: asciilifeform refinancing anything isn't in the books
nubbins`: it would be fairly difficult to lose money on this
nubbins`: in fact, due to accelerated payments, the house could lose 40% of its value over the next 5 years and we could still sell it for a profit
nubbins`: my biggest worry was some sort of major catastrophe happening and not being able to cover repairs
nubbins`: but i think at this point, everything that could go wrong already has
nubbins`: there's a lotta shit insurance doesn't cover
nubbins`: even if it does cover it, takes weeks/months to settle claim
nubbins`: meantime, you've got a hole in the side of your house or a flooded basement or w/e
nubbins`: water damage is specifically excluded from most insurance contracts
nubbins`: anyway, i'm pretty much a home repair expert by now
nubbins`: "yeah, we have rent here for you... and there's a gallon a minute pouring through the first floor ceiling"
mats: 10:40:46 <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform recall the "laboratory testing" where some woman in mass was found to have out and out lied over thousands of cases, resulting in a bazillion overturn or retried cases ? << another chick was found to be doing the same thing in 2014
assbot: Northampton chemist Sonja Farak gets 18 months in jail for tampering with drug samples | masslive.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1Sn7WUd )
mats: another one in MA, no less
chetty: yeah its good here too, now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103200 @ 0.0005587 = 57.6578 BTC [-]
nubbins`: implying that most cocaine users do it for the fun.
☟︎ assbot: Confederate flag-flying CRD Metalworks may move 14 jobs from Williamsburg to Hatfield | masslive.com ... (
http://bit.ly/1Sn90aJ )
nubbins`: implying that regular cocaine users don't just use it to cope
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51489 @ 0.00055838 = 28.7504 BTC [-]
nubbins`: For Farak, crack cocaine was used for the same goddamn reason everyone else uses it, Pourinski didn't but should have said
nubbins`: "loltasticly a Mike Hearn Bitcoin XT node was used to relay the double-spends"
nubbins`: hm, wonder if there are any plantations accepting btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47721 @ 0.00055717 = 26.5887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48129 @ 0.00055717 = 26.816 BTC [-]
assbot: Marvel targets tiny-town Tilt Cove for Ant-Man marketing campaign - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... (
http://bit.ly/1K7yI3O )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54808 @ 0.00055571 = 30.4574 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29848 @ 0.00057146 = 17.0569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62700 @ 0.00054809 = 34.3652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00057146 = 30.5731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36252 @ 0.00057146 = 20.7166 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75948 @ 0.00057369 = 43.5706 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105000 @ 0.00055533 = 58.3097 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.0005763 = 26.6827 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71715 @ 0.00055341 = 39.6878 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22235 @ 0.00054194 = 12.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.000575 = 10.1775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00057798 = 13.727 BTC [+] {3}
chetty: brace yourselves, there is something new under the sun, the price of a pack of smokes went down.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: dumpblock killed my stator when i misscalled it
ben_vulpes: you'll want more from debug, so hang plz
ben_vulpes: anowait, the dumpblock rpc is right there
ascii_field: i'm a bit puzzled what happened between '"blocks" : 331976' and 'SetBestChain: new best=00000000000000000138 height=335023'
ben_vulpes: debug.log is 500M, you want the whole thing?
ascii_field: and see system log for segfault or the like
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00054442 = 22.2668 BTC [-]
ascii_field: notice, no error checking with the filename
ascii_field: if this reliably kills, then blame yourself
ascii_field: take more care with the pistol. don't point at own head
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85558 @ 0.00054442 = 46.5795 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28504 @ 0.00053851 = 15.3497 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119600 @ 0.00055304 = 66.1436 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: ascii_field, posts like that make me feel like liquidating
nubbins`: and putting the money in something safe, like penny stocks or mediterranean economies
ascii_field: nubbins`: this is when you ought to envy folks like me, who have nothing
☟︎☟︎ nubbins`: i envy your workshop(s), which i imagine is/are full of wonder and strange
nubbins`: for me, too, this is a game 8)
nubbins` generally lives life as if 1btc == $0.00
☟︎ danielpbarron: nubbins`> ascii_field, posts like that make me feel like liquidating << haha i had similar thought
nubbins`: danielpbarron, it seems likely that kludges and bugs will be baked into Bitcoin for eternity
☟︎ nubbins`: should make for an interesting future
nubbins`: harry belafonte should write a song about bitcoin
danielpbarron: i do not worry or envy though -- that there exists bitcoin as it is today and other things that go with it like what's done in here is like a miracle to me
danielpbarron: my expectation for this world is that everything will suck and everyone is stupid
☟︎ nubbins`: but you do find beautiful flowers in the strangest of places, huh?
ascii_field: holy fuck is the mempool full of boiling liquid shit right now.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: where are you syncing from ?
kakobrekla: pogo has trouble keeping up with real-time?
danielpbarron: yes it is a pogo, and it's not syncing from any particular node
ascii_field: i would not be greatly surprised to learn that it does not keep up
ascii_field: also will not surprise me if that flash disk doesn't last the year
ascii_field: the keep-whole-block-index-in-ram thing is retarded and Must Die (tm)
ascii_field: the current turd is not 'pogoable' and i'm surprised that danielpbarron bothered to test it there
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111623 @ 0.00055305 = 61.7331 BTC [+]
mod6: magic number is not 0xD9B4BEF9 in 364671
☟︎ mod6: is that what you saw in that block too?
mod6: im looking at the block, i don't see the magic number in there.
mod6: that's the first part of the block...
mod6: maybe i got a bad copy?
ascii_field: methings some clever fella is trying a frame-shift attack
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114976 @ 0.00054244 = 62.3676 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11774 @ 0.00053801 = 6.3345 BTC [-]
mod6: anyone see where the code serializes the magic number itself?
mod6: sorry /me looks again
punkman: which version do we target for bug-to-bug compatibility, since 0.5.3 won't do?
☟︎ solrodar: sorry to butt in, but could one of you gentlemen working on this take a few minutes to check my call graph script so I can claim my payment?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79562 @ 0.00055349 = 44.0368 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: it'll have to be ben_vulpes or trinque; i don't presently have an install of 'clang'.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29438 @ 0.00055835 = 16.4367 BTC [+]
nubbins`: where's your call graph script
nubbins`: and then i found myself installing llvm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127200 @ 0.00055863 = 71.0577 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: ascii_field | it'll have to be ben_vulpes or trinque; i don't presently have an install of 'clang'. << solrodar: maybe later, doing irl work presently
assbot: Islamic Muslim Style Home Decoration Removable PVC Wall Sticker Decal - Black - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... (
http://bit.ly/1GmyXjT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00055606 = 13.0396 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151347 @ 0.00055798 = 84.4486 BTC [+] {3}
mats: looks like the Black Standard, jurov
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38512 @ 0.00056837 = 21.8891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00056837 = 16.4827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00057127 = 17.4237 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87791 @ 0.00056837 = 49.8978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98345 @ 0.00053801 = 52.9106 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00053765 = 8.1723 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00053423 = 5.2542 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: ascii_field so what's the deal with this 'out of range' signaturehash stuff ?
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i read the linked articles but they didn't mean much to me.
pete_dushenski: other than the obvious : bitcoin was written by the retarded.
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 18:12:50; ascii_field: nubbins`: this is when you ought to envy folks like me, who have nothing
pete_dushenski: "being a slave is better than you'd think. being a freeman is for delusional suckers !"
☟︎ pete_dushenski: anyways, bitcoin is bricolage, even if it's 'elemental'
nubbins`: do you consider yourself a 'freeman'?
nubbins`: the o.o is because being a 'freeman' implies you're a kook, simply by virtue of all the assorted kookiness 'freemen' get into
nubbins`: it is like alf calling himself a 'maker' because he's creating a pick & place from scratch
nubbins`: and thusly putting himself in the same bin as people making secret knock unlock devices w/ arduinos using prewritten libraries
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:31:15; pete_dushenski: "being a slave is better than you'd think. being a freeman is for delusional suckers !"
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:24:45; pete_dushenski: ascii_field so what's the deal with this 'out of range' signaturehash stuff ?
ascii_field: and the enemy is in 'tilt' and decided to do it publicly
☟︎ nubbins`: ascii_field it's an upside of not having put money you thought you didn't need but actually sorta do need into bitcoin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275950 @ 0.00053311 = 147.1117 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41868 @ 0.00053695 = 22.481 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:40:50; ascii_field: and the enemy is in 'tilt' and decided to do it publicly
pete_dushenski imagines uncle sam at heads-up poker table with stan, the two staring each other down, sweat beading on their brows, knowing that the winner takes home the cash, the loser hangs by his guts
ascii_field: at any rate, none of the diddles thus far would have made so much as a scratch on, e.g., 'adacoin'
☟︎ ascii_field: all artifacts of the cpp turd's bottomless well of stupid
pete_dushenski: ascii_field well adacoin couldn't wait until 2020 or w/e
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: it will wait until someone gives a sufficient fuck to pay for it.
ascii_field: could be a hundred years, could be yesterday
ascii_field: i say 'yesterday' because, as mircea_popescu is fond of reminding us, no one knows what is used on the planets where the miners live
ascii_field: however presently his 'smart miners' live in the same hypothetical world as my 'meta-nsa'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00054983 = 1.0997 BTC [+]
ascii_field: i.e. by all signs they ~ought to~ exist, somewhere, but the evidence accessible to the naked eye is very thin.
pete_dushenski: i see mp's smart miners as a 'one day' phenomenon, and therefore more akin to your talebian dream life
ascii_field: mno, my understanding is that he believes them to exist ~now~
pete_dushenski: it may also be that we are 'after the war' already but don't know it (not that i necessarily subscribe to this theory).
pete_dushenski: that we imagine the enemy's cannon range to be far greater than it really is, and our defenses stronger than they are.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: didja miss the thread where mircea_popescu told us that is appears my nodes are the last remaining known pre-0.8s which are unwedged presently ?
pete_dushenski: i recall him thanking the heavens that #b-a exists, yes.
ascii_field: (i have two but only one is on a serious pipe and running 24/7)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80412 @ 0.00055923 = 44.9688 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19288 @ 0.00056764 = 10.9486 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "Only since the advent of smartphones can we create good public key software that doesn't need to say the word "key." As an added bonus: the more devices you have, the safer you are when one is lost."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98200 @ 0.00055715 = 54.7121 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: in other news, greek parliament just voted for 3rd bailout deal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00056323 = 27.9362 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: punkman: Really? The Greeks aren't going to conspire with Mittenwald against Berlin?
punkman: they played the ww2 debt card already
BingoBoingo: But the Greek Debt is nothing compared to Berlin's Debts
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: DoS returned. Will try to get it up when possible.
gribble: kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> o was it not?
mthreat: i've moved the search.b-a to a new server, although it's running on the old one for another 2 weeks
mthreat: you control the dns on that right?
mthreat: sure, the new one is 45.79.3.24
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81650 @ 0.00057481 = 46.9332 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37599 @ 0.00058019 = 21.8146 BTC [+]