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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 205357 @ 0.00057561 = 118.2055 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 2147 @ 0.00111 = 2.3832 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60043 @ 0.00057715 = 34.6538 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1
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BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/W8l1edn
assbot: Sorry for potato quality - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtiZZ3 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70685 @ 0.00057736 = 40.8107 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/276763
assbot: Checking your bits ... ( http://bit.ly/1Htj9jc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99314 @ 0.00054324 = 53.9513 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Even today, nasa with the JPEG plumes https://www.xkcd.com/
assbot: xkcd: Pluto ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtjCCa )
trinque: https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/5083994161.html << I am considering grabbing this thing if it doesn't look too beat-up in person.
assbot: HP DL 585 Server ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtjOBa )
trinque: seems like a decent box for bitcoin dev and other projects
BingoBoingo: https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html
assbot: FreeBSD Code of Conduct ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtjUZu )
trinque: price is a little oddly low
BingoBoingo: trinque: Pull the trigger
trinque: waiting on the guy's response
BingoBoingo: 24BG of RAM on an Opteron machine at that price, shit is better than Ebay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42921 @ 0.00053831 = 23.1048 BTC [-]
gernika: BingoBoingo I paid roughly 7x for a similar configuration (new)
BingoBoingo: I know that is a fucking steal.
cazalla: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3dautm/content_policy_update_ama_thursday_july_16th_1pm/
assbot: Content Policy update. AMA Thursday, July 16th, 1pm pst. : announcements ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtkMgP )
cazalla: "Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech, but rather as a place where open and honest discussion can happen: These are very complicated issues, and we are putting a lot of thought into it." bit of a contradiction eh
trinque: eh, cowards
trinque: how's voat doing?
trinque checks
trinque: not too bad actually
BingoBoingo: Voat just has growing pains. The fat hate movement isn't the only thing carrying Voat anymore.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84048 @ 0.00054298 = 45.6364 BTC [+]
trinque: aw yeah, hp server guy replied
BingoBoingo: Sweet
trinque: claims it lived in a climate-controlled data center its whole life
trinque: probably true, given what it is
trinque: I wonder if a local tech company went under
BingoBoingo: Likely
asciilifeform: rip openbsd.
BingoBoingo contemplating blasphemy and getting a "late model" mac
asciilifeform would also say 'rip freebsd' but it died for him when it went with clang
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo et al: that's approx. the correct price for a machine of that type and vintage, if one buys from a local scrap dealer
asciilifeform sometimes does
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.000574 = 16.359 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: 'server' mobos have an annoying habit of including 'remote management' crapolade, however. caveat emptor.
trinque: can I neuter that?
BingoBoingo getting tempted into a mac mini by cheap machine spacific colo offers
asciilifeform: best neuter is for it not to be there.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: worst possible choice. plenty of boxes with identical specs costing 50-60% of what crapple wants
asciilifeform: (specs including size and mass)
trinque: seems otherwise like a good snag of amd hardware
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: probably physically smallest amd x86-64 is the 'pcengines' linked in earlier thread
asciilifeform: i have several, at $dayjob
asciilifeform: comes with schematics even.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Looking used. Trying to find hosts that take similar machines for colo at similar prices.
asciilifeform: it is about 7/8th inch tall.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm << it
assbot: PC Engines apu system boards ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtmS06 )
asciilifeform: they also sell smaller x86 boards,
asciilifeform: (cpu soldered down on all of them)
BingoBoingo: I might start mailing some of these people about whenther they take machines smaller than mac mini at mac mini rate
asciilifeform: i esp. like the 100% open bios
asciilifeform: one of the few x86 boxes still manufactured, which supports this
asciilifeform: down sides include a total absence of video
asciilifeform: you will not be connecting a tele-kvm to this thing - unless your colo has the serial port kind
asciilifeform: also i'm not entirely certain why your colo box has to be an x86
asciilifeform: but as far as those go, this is probably the size/mass/cost champ
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well I'm looking at services like this http://macstadium.com/colo and a few other options that go down to $25-26, but so far this one has the least objectional terms
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asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: betcha crapple subsidizes.
BingoBoingo: Would use to run many-connections bitcoin node plus services, and maybe a couple static html pages
BingoBoingo: Eh, they let you supply own box.
BingoBoingo: May try shoving pc engines in mac mini chassis
asciilifeform: they let you supply own, but probably has to be the apple
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you do the switcheroo, make sure thing has ethernet mac addr from the old unit
asciilifeform: or rather, an addr in apple's registered range
asciilifeform: (hope to not get lucky & get existing)
BingoBoingo: Seems a sensible precaution.
asciilifeform: not sure where you'd get a mobo that fits in the original case without looking odd
asciilifeform: (the jacks have to line up with the holes, no?)
BingoBoingo: Generally been pricing 2011 and earlier minis (including G4 models)
asciilifeform: ugh
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (the jacks have to line up with the holes, no?) Only eth0 jack matters... Arts&Crafts
asciilifeform: can get hosting on an old p3 (equiv. of fastest g4) for less than the quoted price
asciilifeform: with hoster-supplied box, too
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eth0, dc in, usb for the telekvm...
BingoBoingo: If configured at home is kvm even necessary?
asciilifeform: perhaps not
BingoBoingo: Most of these services seem to have a daily charge for troubleshooting with their KVM adapters
asciilifeform: whole thing sounds scammy
asciilifeform: why colo host, to begin with ?
BingoBoingo: It does.
asciilifeform: i can think of a few cases where it makes sense, but is this one ?
BingoBoingo: Colo host to get box out of house so I don't have to see macbomination
asciilifeform: don't have to see it if you don't buy one, l0l
BingoBoingo: Also configure at home seems like a nice alternative to cpanel dedibortion or vps.
asciilifeform: that, it does
BingoBoingo: Want machine to live in datacenter, not eating home bandwidth. getting maximal bitcoind connections at min dollars
asciilifeform lulz at the memory of how never saw 'cpanel' anywhere until mircea_popescu's
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: Saw at Godaddy in the past... Apparently powers their shared hosting
trinque: we (which is to say they) used it at an old shitty php job
trinque: specifically whm I guess
trinque: that was a lulzy job; worked on software for those ebay pawn shops
BingoBoingo was planning if acquired mac mini to install max ram, max sub $200 SSD, OpenBSD 5.6, Set up SSH keys, bitcoind sync, and ship
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201562 << those folks have 'ideology' like a forest fire does. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:23; pete_dushenski: instead they have -dozens- of fiefdoms, all pledging allegiance to an ideology and a black flag
asciilifeform: i suppose 'combustible things must combust' is ideology then.
mod6: BingoBoingo: i was kinda thinkin the same thing, could be a market for someone to just ship a drive ready to go.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201563 << mongols were able to produce the state-of-art weapons of their time (at their prime, that is), on their own. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 22:54:38; trinque: mongols had a khan
trinque: state of the art fighting techniques too
trinque: and then held down a vast empire with a sane legal system and so on
trinque: these are a bunch of twitter-posting imbeciles with AKs
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trinque: that's not really fair, they are also whatever's left of saddam's army
BingoBoingo: ISIS takes state of the art fighting weapons and USia spends Imperial treasure on F-35 redefining state of the art as shittier
asciilifeform: wake me up when the untermenschen can produce so much as one brass shell.
asciilifeform: on their own.
mats: plenty of war materiel and munitions for purchase
asciilifeform: mats: presently - for phree!
mats: no reason why they can't subsist on ru supply chain indefinitely
asciilifeform: while supplies last (tm)
asciilifeform: ru newz media are kinda lulzy in re: 'isis': invariably prefix with 'islamic army, the organization banned in our country, has...'
mats: NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price
mats: just, you know, not directly.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201615 << i'd like to know what he oughta use. to turn those coins into food, rent, mains power. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 23:21:27; trinque: so don't use bitpay, guy
asciilifeform: dealer in dark alley ?
mats: -otc?
asciilifeform: i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op
asciilifeform: what otc.
asciilifeform: the one that's just about entirely dead, as far as my naked eye can see ?
danielpbarron: mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << reminds me of Milo from Catch-22 ☟︎
mats: ;;book BTC
gribble: Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=BTC to see list of orders for this item.
trinque: asciilifeform: could always accept them directly then turn into USD through the usual channels ☟︎
trinque: or CAD or whatever they like best
mats: ;;book USD
gribble: Error: Too many orders to list on IRC. Visit the web order book, http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=USD to see list of orders for this item.
mats: plenty of middlemen to be had for the right price as far as i can see
trinque: well I'm not sure, is there a sort of AML/KYC equivalent for donations?
mats: for the folks cashing btc, prob
trinque: if so, it plainly illustrates the degree to which these things have crept forward..
trinque: I can toss a 50 into the goodwill box anonymously, but not BTC
trinque: no one ever busted up a piss-odorous santa ringing his bell outside walmart
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i mean, yes, bitpay is a usg op << My impression is BitPay is under such constraints because born insufficiently USG, now merely avoiding a Shreming
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00053831 = 4.145 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: And all the pederasty that comes with it
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1201329 << confirmed. I haven't bothered to boot my 0.7.2 node back up since my power outage because it was completely wedged from this thing ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 20:32:43; mircea_popescu: anyway, run your own .6 or .7 and see what happens.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: try it now ?
danielpbarron: you want me to boot it up? I bet it will still be wedged as I haven't done anything to it
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1201767 << if you have a usd-denominated bank account, it probably does not matter through which channels you turn btc into usd ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 01:55:19; trinque: asciilifeform: could always accept them directly then turn into USD through the usual channels
asciilifeform: every single movement of the bank is reported.
danielpbarron: i'm sure I can manually feed it blocks or whatever the fix is, but my node didn't need manual intervention / is currently synced
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i specifically want to see what ends up in the log
asciilifeform: as it tries to catch up
danielpbarron: you want my debug.log files?
trinque departs to pick up new puter
asciilifeform: tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log > somewhere.txt
asciilifeform: as it runs.
danielpbarron: also i've been saving up debug.log between restarts via cat .bitcoin/debug.log >> debug.log
asciilifeform: above works better
danielpbarron: yes I now see why that would be better and feel foolish for the way I had been doing it
danielpbarron: funny too because I have tail -f ~/.bitcoin/debug.log going 24/7 but as a way of monitoring it
asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33414358 << historical lulz
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60536 @ 0.00053788 = 32.5611 BTC [-]
ag3nt_zer0: cause for concern? or just another wiggle-the-sore-tooth obsession? http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics
assbot: Anti-racist mathematics - Psychology Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1M4OcVZ )
ag3nt_zer0: "While Western mathematicians often claim Western mathematics is universal, anti-racist mathematics and ethnomathematics scholars share the assumption that any given mathematical understanding or practice is a product of a particular culture.[4] Scholars such as C. K. Raju have advocated multicultural mathematics, in which different cultures can develop different forms of mathematics."
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the (present-day) west's academitardia is trolling. ignore the lot of'em.
ag3nt_zer0: yes but the entertsinment!
ag3nt_zer0: heh
ag3nt_zer0: how's your day asciilifeform?
asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26365085 << related, re: provocateurs
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asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: splendid, went to a kind of groceries shop where pr0l3z are not permitted (costs a hundy/yr to enter)
asciilifeform: 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime'
mircea_popescu: cazalla ah the mystery unravels, they wanted the guy as ceo so as to buy some legitimacy for something stupid they want to do.
ag3nt_zer0: whats a pr013? proletariat?
mircea_popescu: in other news : i am satisfied that the 363730 fork and the 363730-363736 dead chain contain nothing remarkable from a "hey guise they switched out the blokchanin" perspective. so i'm letting this rest.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: hard to describe unless you live here.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the 'offensively poor' as described in mircea_popescu's articles.
asciilifeform: and the accoutrements that go with them (blatantly recycled food, tabloids, lottery crapolade, etc)
mircea_popescu: iirc the term was lumpen
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was largely empty, iirc !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has it! lumpens.
mircea_popescu: as in lumpenproletariat
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: but these have somewhat different flavours in different places.
mircea_popescu: of their time (at their prime, that is), on their own. << in no way did they do this. they merely went around with a horde of gypsies, chinese, etc. heck, the siege of byzantium used a hungarian cannonmaster.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, the few captive "us trainers" they have work exactly like the mongols'
asciilifeform: turks
asciilifeform: hungarian cannonmaster, siege, -- turks
mircea_popescu: <mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << god knows romania has been doing it for a decade straight.
asciilifeform: but point taken. there is actually a mega-lulzy ru film about a captive ru derp used as 'computermaster' by chechens
ag3nt_zer0: it would be cool if readers in this group had a "Recommended readings" list or something... that would be awesome actually
mats: costco is great
ag3nt_zer0: well, I would love it at any rate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80787 @ 0.00054878 = 44.3343 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mats: i kinda wonder how many subscribers are paying not to see the lumpens
asciilifeform: rather than for the 2 percent off chumpatronics
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'costco', for u.s. folks. sorta like a meatspace 'amazon prime' << used to shop at their equiv in ro. "selgros".
mats: dunno, i see plenty of lumpens coming in for rx and alcohol
danielpbarron: ag3nt_zer0, http://danielpbarron.com/ascii_book_list.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M4OJam )
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: php got Eulora running on OSX... did he do anything different than is on the wiki?
mircea_popescu: iirc he updated the wiki to reflect his experience.
mats: they can't exclude plebs for those particular purchases i believe
asciilifeform: mats: the one i went to had a bouncer.
asciilifeform: no photo card - no enter.
mats: lol
asciilifeform: also no credit cards, but 'amex'
mircea_popescu: the romania version requires you to have a corp registered
mats: really? no MC/Visa?
ag3nt_zer0: I was following then got all paranoid and been stuck on researching what GCC is, whether or not it can compromise system, and whether this is all an elaborate scam to get my non-existent bitcoins
ag3nt_zer0: haha
asciilifeform: mats: aha. nope
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 gcc is the basic compiler. your kernel was compiled in it.
mats: never seen one like that. but i have been tempted to get a 'costco amex', the rates are good and amex has historically had great customer service
mats: and i hear their entire back-end is mostly paper
asciilifeform: mats: the clerk informed me (when collecting my hundy) that their amex thing will vanish next year.
danielpbarron has amex
asciilifeform: leaving hell knows what, if anything
ag3nt_zer0: danielpbarron: thanks!
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mats: aha. nope << Other cards still work if processed as "debit" rather than "credit"
mod6: so i've got the two binaries recompiled, not stripped. not exactly sure what i'm looking for in here. doing a diff with objdump.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/Lqg4D
assbot: tootie comments on Content Policy update. AMA Thursday, July 16th, 1pm pst. ... ( http://bit.ly/1M4OU5i )
mod6: i have serached forward to SSL
mats: that sounds dicey. wouldn't want to input a PIN at their POS
asciilifeform: iirc they also take old-fashioned money.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a miracle of fiat makingall sorts of distinctions where same accounts use many different payment network messes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the operative distinction is 'no chargebacks', i think
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the terms of chargebacks more often
BingoBoingo: fiat is weird
danielpbarron prefers to use cash whereever possible so as to give merchant the option of keeping it "under the table"
mats: asciilifeform: is there a repository on the internets somewhere for windows symbol files (not Windows Symbol Server)?
asciilifeform: mats: not afaik
asciilifeform: but if exists, probably .ru
asciilifeform: try yandex.
mats: i'm looking for a pdb to 'vwififlt.sys', for an intel wifi card i believe
mats: ok
asciilifeform: i can't think of a reason to suspect that this was ever public, but doesn't hurt to look.
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ag3nt_zer0: Today I was looking at LoperOS and one of the things I read was his article about the kill switch... searched the logs for commentary but didn't find too much. But I thought maybe I had read something addressing it on Trilema... is that right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19362 @ 0.00053467 = 10.3523 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: i don't recall mircea_popescu ever devoting a whole article to specifically that one. his position, iirc, is 'satoshi lost the keys' ☟︎
asciilifeform: why this was - i can't recall. might like to ask him.
BingoBoingo: <mats> dunno, i see plenty of lumpens coming in for rx and alcohol << Rules for this happen on a state-by-state basis. Normally the "shame" keeps all but saviest lumps out
ag3nt_zer0: was Vorhees correct in his assertion that the study was "fatally flawed" for not accounting for numerous "ewallets" being strung to one address?
BingoBoingo: <ag3nt_zer0> was Vorhees correct in his assertion that the study was "fatally flawed" for not accounting for numerous "ewallets" being strung to one address? << at the time likely in part
decimation: re: costco amex < yeah I posted about this awhile ago. turns out amex didn't want to 'make a deal' to keep costco, and instead steer their business toward servicing poor folks at walmart
asciilifeform: decimation: this is doubly lulzy because amex is the 'pay to play' cc issuer
decimation has costco amex, will drop when replaced next year
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah it is lulzy. I've heard from some small time merchants that amex dropped their transaction fees below visa/mc
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: hard to argue that ~coins that never move~ are 'e-wallets behind one address'
decimation: they know a huge chunk of their business comes from rich folks with costco amex cards
decimation: asciilifeform: also somewhat little known about costco amex: you can walk in with your annual refund check and they will pay you in cash
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: could be wrong but I thought he was addressing the tx volume with that statement
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the 'atomic bomb' is - now, as when i wrote the piece- -- the mega-holdings under a sole key, which never move.
asciilifeform: this bomb is there, whether anyone wants to talk about it or not, and may - or may not - explode one day
asciilifeform: one might suppose that its existence is 'priced into the market' somehow.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: oh that was you... very enjoyable reading btw...
decimation: asciilifeform: all that early btc is probably offset by the big chunk that has been lost forever
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: the paper referenced in the article, however, has nothing to do with me
BingoBoingo: So Iran nuclear deal... Only actual impact is Persian agricultural goods pricing Israeli agricultural goods out of the market?
asciilifeform: decimation: thing is, nothing can ever be proven 'lost forever'
decimation: true.
asciilifeform: one, or none, of those keys - may turn up.
decimation: same with the 'satoshi horde'
asciilifeform: speaking broadly, of all of'em.
mod6: well, at least `objdump -T bitcoind` shows: objdump: bitcoind-woNoShared: not a dynamic object \ DYNAMIC SYMBOL TABLE: \ no symbols
mircea_popescu: sounds legit.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: do you still consider the bitcoin-p option as viable?
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it wasn't especially viable then. and after adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form, i can't think of who might voluntarily work with such a thing today
asciilifeform: other than the moles
asciilifeform: i certainly have no interest in it now.
asciilifeform: was mainly a gedankenexperiment, of somehow attaching wot ratings to coin in a permanent way.
ag3nt_zer0: "adoption as official usg policy in a mildly perverted form" << via buterin's waterfall?
asciilifeform: nah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 232300 @ 0.00055483 = 128.887 BTC [+] {3}
asciilifeform: 'red/white-listing'
asciilifeform: see hearn
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see the lulzy quote: http://dpaste.com/0E6JFXW.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Htub8e )
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: til that if you chown public_html away from apache squirrelmail fails to function anymore
mircea_popescu: all this logic...
BingoBoingo: In other news, apparently parts of the US can make actual cheese
decimation: asciilifeform: you should try 'wegmans'
trinque: if the seller is to be believed, this is the old kernel.org server... LOL?!
mod6: 475M bitcoind-woNoShared.s << lol
BingoBoingo: lol, take it trinque
asciilifeform: decimation: there's no shortage of this kind of thing, as i understand
trinque: BingoBoingo: I did!
BingoBoingo: Nice trinque
trinque: alright, so how do we find the govt-grade malware embedded in this thing's mobo?
trinque: asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: trinque: l0l
mod6: <+trinque> if the seller is to be believed, this is the old kernel.org server... LOL?! << wat srsly?
mircea_popescu: no but i like how he thinks
asciilifeform: trinque: at least do it the honour of preserving the stray bits on the hdds
trinque: certainly
trinque: though it's been wiped by the owner in between me and kernel.org
trinque: got 8 scsi drives though, so maybe there are goods to be found
asciilifeform: a local scrap dealer i will not presently name, sells retired usg contractors' boxes, often with whole shebang still in.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lryivdvQt21r2lyd3o1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HtuPCK )
mod6: let's see if i can break diff...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hmmpppfffmf!
decimation: asciilifeform: lol they don't wipe drives?
asciilifeform: apparently not.
asciilifeform: (firms that actually go under, will often leave intact 'fossils' of themselves)
decimation: too bad you don't have such goods for smbx
asciilifeform: decade+ too late
asciilifeform: quite possibly others - do
asciilifeform: i've said it before, and will say again - smbx is a dead end. i will not maintain crapcode that mit undergrads wrote in 1979.
asciilifeform: in all caps, no less.
asciilifeform: it is educational - yes.
trinque: https://i.imgur.com/7zzMNgv.jpg << tramp stamp
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Htv80h )
asciilifeform: building new things on it? even if usg were not getting in the way? not so appealing imho
asciilifeform: (for completeness, i will note that i will not maintain code mit undergrads wrote in '89. or '99. or '09. or at all.)
BingoBoingo: Anyone as of yet spot my OpenBSD 0.7-ish build in the wild. Returns version for the time being
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still burning to learn why you're maintaining 0.7
asciilifeform: if it's no secret
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Build on OpenBSD with flags I use and missing from 0.5.x atm like getpeerinfo
BingoBoingo: Also last pre-Hearnia release
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'getpeerinfo' isn't so hard. consider contributing a patch ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: working on understanding it first
BingoBoingo: Will likely get actual minrelaytxfee patch in first
BingoBoingo: turns out in original I had helpfile line wrong
decimation: asciilifeform: the most interesting part to me are the silicon design tools
asciilifeform: i specifically asked dks for those
asciilifeform: he (unsurprisingly) refused
decimation: heh
asciilifeform: could easily be the only part of the corp that's worth something on the open market
decimation: they might be shitware, but could be the nucleus of non-winblows designware
asciilifeform: nothing that existed and worked in '86 could really pass as shitware by today's standards.
decimation: yeah, good point
decimation: everything had to work and not be bloatware
asciilifeform: a toolchain that works ~without even a part per billion of microshit~ is pure plutonium, plain and simple
asciilifeform: by today's lights.
decimation: asciilifeform: do you sometimes phantasize about locking a group of promising young grads on an deserted island with only circa 1985 tools?
asciilifeform: nah just self
decimation: heh
asciilifeform: what do i need the derps for ?
asciilifeform: to cook my dinner, i suppose
decimation: staff
decimation: they could be human macros
asciilifeform: would almost rather cook own dinner, and not have to deal with derps in any capacity.
asciilifeform: this is one of the ways i differ from mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to cook my dinner, i suppose << Janatorial duties
trinque: I'd much rather automate things than have help
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: if anything, the turdalicious computer systems we have today are a consequence of cheap labour.
asciilifeform: why engineer anything, when a bottomless supply of monkeys with 'duct tape' can be had.
trinque: as if to drive the point home, some fucking drunk bum is hollering
decimation: asciilifeform: can shape desired object out of bondo?
asciilifeform: 'bondo, sanded to perfection' (mr mold)
trinque: cannot find a single mention on the web for geb2.kernel.org
trinque: maybe it was an internal hostname
trinque: however I do find mention of these model HP servers being donated
BingoBoingo: Image the Hard drives, wipe all the everything
trinque: oh of course
trinque: I've got a 2tb I can dd all the drives to
decimation: heh I forgot that paragraph from yarvin: "
decimation: The basic problem is that the robber-barons of Silicon Valley, unlike their Victorian forebears, do not realize that, if they want all this science, they will actually have to pay for it - themselves. Instead, they look at their tax forms and think: I gave at the office."
decimation: "But they didn't. They gave to scientocracy. Now, they need to figure out how to patronize science - or there will be no science. Just scientific Bondo, sanded to perfection and painted with meticulous care."
trinque: not bad
trinque: and yet, yachts, hookers and blow have already been invented
asciilifeform: mr mold at his best
trinque: another website I've snapped up in entirety
ag3nt_zer0: danielpbarron: is that your booklist? I would be happy to see your list, the ones that cater to or inform your self-identification as a religious thinker, if you ever have the inclination to share...
danielpbarron: ag3nt_zer0, that's a simple list: The Bible.
pete_dushenski: shanghai composite was on track for another losing day and now it's, well, FLATLINED
pete_dushenski: http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SHCOMP:IND
assbot: SHCOMP Quote - Shanghai Stock Exchange Composite Index - Bloomberg Markets ... ( http://bit.ly/1I1j49X )
pete_dushenski: guessing the federalis stepped in again to make sure that 'confidence is restored' or some such
pete_dushenski: pretty lulzy way to operate a 'market' but hey, you don't mess with the emperor over there
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63279 @ 0.00054694 = 34.6098 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: reminiscent of the cn reply to wester whiners re: 'tiananmen incident.' which was 'over here, we don't have total control like you, public opinion matters, ergo seditionists not tolerated. and we don't stock riot gear either, we're a poor country. they knew they signed up to crunch under tanks'
pete_dushenski: lol
mthreat: !s wtf
assbot: 2267 results for 'wtf' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=wtf
pete_dushenski: on the canadian side of the world of skewed incentives, this waterloo police officer plead guilty for breach of trust and was paid $350k over the next 3 years to golf and suntan.
mthreat: search is back up. I'll be moving it to another server soon.
pete_dushenski: then he had the audacity to brag about it http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/dream-come-true-ex-waterloo-region-police-officer-mockingly-thanks-them-for-paid-suspension
assbot: ‘Dream come true': Ex-Waterloo Regional Police officer mockingly thanks force for paid suspension | National Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1I1jEUY )
pete_dushenski: mthreat: huzzah !
pete_dushenski: !rated mthreat
assbot: You rated user mthreat on 27-Jun-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: maker of supremely useful #bitcoin-assets search.
ag3nt_zer0: http://www.vox.com/2014/6/3/5775918/25-years-after-tiananmen-most-chinese-univeristy-students-have-never
assbot: 25 years after Tiananmen, most Chinese university students have never heard of it - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1I1jLQu )
asciilifeform: of 'it' or the western lies ?
pete_dushenski: have most american students ?
pete_dushenski: i sorta doubt that many 18-20 year olds today are up on chinese 'democratic' history from before they were born
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: can you enlighten me re: 'actual account' ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i believe it is in the logz
asciilifeform: mthreat fixed search - spiffy
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-12-2014#945925 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-12-2014 05:09:14; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you familiar with china's reply to 'why did you roll up the (tiananmen) students (molotov-armed, by some reliable accounts - also with grenades) with tanks ?'
asciilifeform: possibly others
ag3nt_zer0: fair enough, maybe I am a gland junkie but I still find some of this stuff mildly shocking
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2014#461122 << esp. that one ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 26-01-2014 19:43:12; asciilifeform: btw the chinese have scholars, of 'soviet collapse studies,' and some of their output is rather interesting and educational
ag3nt_zer0: yeah the accounts by the reporters in the hotel of the sounds of the bones and skulls being crushed kind of got my endocrines goin
pete_dushenski: ah excellent
pete_dushenski: that it's already in the logs... i dun really give a shit about ag3nt_zer0's hormones !
asciilifeform: u.s. dept of state & cia tried to turn cn into 1990s ru. failed.
ag3nt_zer0: forgot the documentary but it was about the guy who shot the tank man video... and how that video barely made it out
asciilifeform: have been pissing and moaning about it through their maxint mouthpiece orchestra ever since.
pete_dushenski: the one that got away (tm)
ag3nt_zer0: with a mild speculative inference that it was instrumental in inspiring the geramns to topple the wall
ag3nt_zer0: and what if it hadnt gotten out?
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: when you build mental world out of usg's 'legos', don't be surprised if you find yourself reaching their 'recommended' conclusions.
ag3nt_zer0: what conclusion?
asciilifeform: any number of'em
pete_dushenski: http://news.domain.com.au/domain/real-estate-news/china-doubles-down-on-australian-real-estate-20150715-gicgju.html << don't imagine this'll cheer up cazalla but i might be wrong.
assbot: China doubles down on Australian real estate ... ( http://bit.ly/1I1kKjI )
asciilifeform: like any industrial-strength chumpamatic, usg-history typically leads you to 'conclude'... the very premises of the syllogism behind the conclusions.
asciilifeform: as in the 'berlin wall' example above.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: if it makes you feel better, it's the same story in vancouver. ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: yeah I hear you. ftr I didn't mean to imply that I concluded anything...
pete_dushenski: not that i really give a shit about vancouver, mind you, but it's sorta kinda not really in my backyard atm.
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: examine the premises. for instance, ever wonder why the obsession with berlin wall ?
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: I am guessing not in the way that you might be about to tell me?
asciilifeform: i'm about to go to sleep, actually
ag3nt_zer0: hehe
asciilifeform: but trying to encourage folks to think.
ag3nt_zer0: no I appreciate it!
ag3nt_zer0: I am interested
ag3nt_zer0: maybe can tell me later
pete_dushenski: http://www.sse.com.cn/ << bwahaha the bleeding idiots have green-coloured losses and red-coloured gains on their stock ticker !
ag3nt_zer0: danielpbarron: thx again
asciilifeform: what next, complain about the blue traffic lights in japan ?
pete_dushenski: "hey u guise, i have a capital idea ! mebbe no one will notice that we've inflated trillion of worthless rmb into our 'markets' if we change the colours of the stop lights at the intersection !"
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: bah, get out. there's a recipe for stock market accounting and sse is playing games.
pete_dushenski: or mebbe i'm a johnny come lately cynic. also possibru.
asciilifeform: i actually have no idea what their colours were prior.
pete_dushenski: is it some kind of fucking mid-day national holiday in shanghai ?
pete_dushenski: http://money.cnn.com/data/world_markets/se_composite/ << another dead price feed.
assbot: SHCOMP - Shanghai SE Composite Index - CNNMoney.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5pYcp )
pete_dushenski: and i can't seem to source an explanation for the bloody thing
pete_dushenski: "Roman Dahl ‏@dahlroman 2m2 minutes ago #Chinese GDP beats the estm. 7% Y/Y vs 6.8%; Shanghai -2.17%; 24% of firms in trading halt."
pete_dushenski: another halt. so that's two in the past 5 trading sessions then ?
pete_dushenski: "nothing to see here, folks, just business as usual."
pete_dushenski: fuck, no wonder even 'foxconn' is getting the hell outta dodge and moving 1 mn workers to india
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-07-2015#1193376 << see also. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
pete_dushenski: of course, the ever-convenient nyse 'glitch'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: notice the basic dynamic, of 'indias' being a non-renewable resource.
pete_dushenski: "A flight attendant testified Lander and Jason George Chase, a co-accused, used a coat to cover their laps to fondle each other." << on air canada flight. both 'criminals' now under house arrest and/or probation.
asciilifeform: there is a common misconception that collapse followed by sufficiently-many generations of starvation and abject degradation can 'reset' and get you a new 'india' in place of a worn-out, 'consumerized' husk
asciilifeform: this is not actually true.
asciilifeform: you are far more likely to get a new afghanistan.
asciilifeform: (notice that no one is building factories there)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 'likely' being based on the peoples and their geography
asciilifeform: 'indias' are produces by a uniquely 20th c. process of industrially-powered overpopulation
pete_dushenski: let europeans starve and they'll reset alright
asciilifeform: they'll reset to pashtun mode
asciilifeform: go, exploit'em
pete_dushenski: i'm... busy.
asciilifeform: to round this off, in as far as i understand, india is the last remaining 'india'.
asciilifeform: (of those usable, at any rate.)
pete_dushenski: well to be fair to afghanistan, it's producing heroin like never before
pete_dushenski: gotta use what's available, not just whatever you'd like
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> i actually have no idea what their colours were prior. << someone archived it -- was red in 2012 https://archive.is/iLdQ
assbot: 上海证券交易所 ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5qVl1 )
asciilifeform: agrarian system
asciilifeform: you don't need an 'india' to grow shit.
pete_dushenski: so mebbe factories are better in india and china, and poppy plantations are better in afghanistan, and wheat fields in ukraine
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the 'factories better' thing is the specific item i meant by 'an india'
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: o hey, nice work. sorry sse !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-06-2014#724474 << see also. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:28:22; asciilifeform: because american factory gurlz want toilet breaks, health care!, etc
asciilifeform: scroll up in thread.
asciilifeform: specifically, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-06-2014#724465 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-06-2014#724467 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:26:01; asciilifeform: japan jumped the gap - why? because they had the 'natural resource'
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 03:26:18; asciilifeform: - that being, six generations of people willing to work into the grave for a cup of rice
pete_dushenski: indonesia'd seem to be another by this definition
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57550 @ 0.0005461 = 31.4281 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: 255 mn people. ready water access for transport.
pete_dushenski: https://www.google.ca/finance?q=SHA%3A000001&ei=4eKlVbnyNcmpmAGzyoXICw << aha ! magicked back into existence... and down a quick 1% for a total of -3.65% on the day.
assbot: SSE Composite Index: SHA:000001 quotes & news – Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5rATA )
pete_dushenski: way to go regulators !
mircea_popescu: !up welshjf
welshjf: howdy mircea_popescu, just lurking :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89200 @ 0.00053906 = 48.0842 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: <phf> ben_vulpes: eventually, aha. i'm not even sure yet that i can repeat the process. for example part of build process is a script that chooses between gcc-4.6 and clang based on whether it's .c or .mm. the fact that the result links i think is a miracle << bwahahahahahaha
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ag3nt_zer0: splendid, went to a kind of groceries shop where pr0l3z are not permitted (costs a hundy/yr to enter) << the things you find entertaining, i swear
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> no photo card - no enter. << that this is enforced at yours is very indicative of the differences between our corners of usistan
ben_vulpes: * danielpbarron prefers to use cash whereever possible so as to give merchant the option of keeping it "under the table" << where i come we call this the "cascadian discount"
ben_vulpes: come from*
ben_vulpes: pay in cash for a 15% discount. half of the savings from not paying the tax man to the person paying, half to the merchant.
ben_vulpes: why anyone would pay cash without this arrangement boggles.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> In other news, apparently parts of the US can make actual cheese << what hellhole do you live in that doesn't have fresh cheese maiden made at every monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday and sunday farmer's market?
ben_vulpes: in other news, my bloodily hacked together stator has achieved block 331707
mircea_popescu: wd!
mircea_popescu: hello welshjf
ben_vulpes: lol nothing to it beyond applying patches
ben_vulpes: the most marvelous achievement of mine is the time allocated to reading patches
ben_vulpes: and yes asciilifeform - i do
ben_vulpes: religiously.
ben_vulpes: my one sacrament.
ben_vulpes: <trinque> another website I've snapped up in entirety << have you pared it down to just text yet?
mircea_popescu: sign em too then
trinque: no, probably trivial with w3m or something
ben_vulpes: oh twisting my arm too eh?
ben_vulpes will
ben_vulpes: i have a whole weekend of plane flights and insane fambly ahead
ben_vulpes: best thing to possibly have on the screen are gpg-grams and cpp
ben_vulpes: although i'm going to miss my new ergonomic keyboard
ben_vulpes: the rsi is setting in
ben_vulpes: it set in on a particularly long bike ride on a particularly shitty bike
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97450 @ 0.00054982 = 53.58 BTC [+] {3}
ben_vulpes: after which i mused to myself about vibrating handles and mircea_popescu's computer use wisdom
ben_vulpes: how boss do you battle the rsi?
ben_vulpes: <mthreat> !s wtf << ty!
trinque: ^ which causes me to notice...
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "A flight attendant testified Lander and Jason George Chase, a co-accused, used a coat to cover their laps to fondle each other." << on air canada flight. both 'criminals' now under house arrest and/or probation. << i can't figure for whom this is a problem
ben_vulpes: ohai deedbot-
trinque: getting pretty unimpressed with tenyks.
ben_vulpes: rewritten in cl yet trinque?
trinque: nope, not yet
ben_vulpes: i for one have fondled and been fondled on many a flight with zero harrasment from either other passengers or flight staff
ben_vulpes: perhaps i do not intend to 'own the space' as mircea_popescu describes the act
ben_vulpes: couldn't tell ya
ben_vulpes: the funny thing about my stator is that i have a binary called bitcoind-7-11-patched-with-dumpblock
ben_vulpes: that was not patched with dumpblock
trinque: heh, I did the same on a school trip's flight back from colorado
ben_vulpes: herpa derpa doo
trinque: with a chick I hooked up with on the trip
trinque: come and get me, canada
ben_vulpes: come at me fascists
ben_vulpes: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-14/banks-forgot-who-was-supposed-to-own-dell-shares
assbot: Banks Forgot Who Was Supposed to Own Dell Shares - Bloomberg View ... ( http://bit.ly/1M517Hn )
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.0005537 = 16.3342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53488 @ 0.0005537 = 29.6163 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00055477 = 22.0798 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: hey trinque
ben_vulpes: have some braindamage: https://github.com/mck-/heroku-cl-example/blob/master/src/util/model-utils.lisp
assbot: heroku-cl-example/model-utils.lisp at master · mck-/heroku-cl-example · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Smp64x )
trinque: looks like cldjango to me
ben_vulpes: lisprails, but yeah
trinque: so far I tend to think the object system is for UI doodads, not for the data model
ben_vulpes: but imagine if you were actually into self-serializing data structures you could hang all sorts of useful stuff off of CLOS classes that did db queries transparently
ben_vulpes: (and oop)
trinque: I tend to think Table is an object, not Customer
trinque: otherwise you have two ever-diverging data models to constantly sync up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81100 @ 0.00055522 = 45.0283 BTC [+] {3}
trinque: or you only use the features in the "upper" model
trinque: I still don't see how I'd use CLOS like I use view composition in the db ☟︎
ben_vulpes: want to hear a dirty secret?
trinque: sure
ben_vulpes: our lispy crud stuff doesn't even formalize 'models'
ben_vulpes: we just have a bunch of functions called reset-password, set-user-whatever, update-user-whatever ☟︎
trinque: I think that's the right way.
ben_vulpes: that poke mother pg in all of the right spots
trinque: 100% right
ben_vulpes: the weakness is that we don't use database constraints, which is where the oop model shines a bit
ben_vulpes: (in comparison at least)
ben_vulpes: we just kinda hand-wave and say "yeah man there are users, and this is how we diddle them in the database in this particular way"
trinque: can always throw an error if a particular slot is initialized to nil
trinque: in clos
ben_vulpes: sure
ben_vulpes: i guess this is the "small teams and discipline" approach
ben_vulpes: db constraints seem like a decent step.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21013 @ 0.00055579 = 11.6788 BTC [+]
ben_vulpes: but on the flipside, another deploy target
trinque: in particular what I like about the approach of just editing the db is it doesn't try to say this is a "customer" action or an "order" or so on
trinque: bolting the behavior to anything other than a symbol is retarded
trinque: if you wanna mention "customer" in the name of the function, great
trinque: hm from a perspective that is advocating a lack of constraints
trinque: on that subj
trinque: as for db constraints, they can at least help when some logic is easier expressed if it is assumed that the data model has some expected structure
trinque: rather than having if statements handling the lack of that part of the data model in code
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ben_vulpes: this problem sucks
ben_vulpes: fuck the web
trinque: ayep
ben_vulpes: would you fix this, please?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84000 @ 0.00055625 = 46.725 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: I wanna build a bastard lisp for the webasm thing
ben_vulpes: minimal browserlisp
ben_vulpes: let's go
trinque: and just fart graphics onto a canvas or webgl ☟︎
trinque: and fuck the dom
ben_vulpes: p-please
ben_vulpes: don't get my hopes up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00055554 = 5.6771 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113129 @ 0.00054828 = 62.0264 BTC [-]
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202061 <<< vancouver may as well be on another planet for all i care tbh but point taken all the same ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 04:58:07; pete_dushenski: cazalla: if it makes you feel better, it's the same story in vancouver.
cazalla: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
mircea_popescu: sigh
chetty: just think how great the net would be if all of a sudden all the ddos stopped, wonder what % of net traffic is that?
mircea_popescu: i got a better idea.
mircea_popescu: suppose all the idiots running stupid shit, random nat routers, bad wp installs, etc, got forbidden from the net.
mircea_popescu: take aol back. we don't want it, we never wanted it, fuck the fucking open-to-idiots internet.
mircea_popescu: the bovine sort of "people" libertardism/welfarism produces have really no place. not on the net, not under the sun, not anywhere. drop dead and spare the earth spurious shadows.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes rsi ?
ben_vulpes: "i have been typing a lot and my hand hurts"
dignork: mircea_popescu: it sounds almost possible – claim damages against each of DDOS participants, 0.5 btc each for example. But these claims cannot be enforced.
ben_vulpes: i would like to know how mircea_popescu operates the computer machine healthily if he does not suffer from this affliction, or fear it
mircea_popescu: eh, just put things on gossipd and never invite them.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i just use a desktop.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00055591 = 27.7955 BTC [+]
cazalla: we have another name for rsi down under.. wankers cramp
mircea_popescu: heh
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107387 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 22:11:24; artifexd: Bottom line, I expect to have something to share for testing in 4 weeks.
trinque: artifexd: any progress? eagerly awaited
trinque: much better platform than this webapp bullshit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15522 @ 0.00055591 = 8.6288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49350 @ 0.0005506 = 27.1721 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66935 @ 0.00054422 = 36.4274 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103400 @ 0.00053641 = 55.4648 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: ben_vulpes: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-14/banks-forgot-who-was-supposed-to-own-dell-shares << crazy ☟︎
assbot: Banks Forgot Who Was Supposed to Own Dell Shares - Bloomberg View ... ( http://bit.ly/1V1TpSf )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59312 @ 0.00053821 = 31.9223 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42903 @ 0.00054397 = 23.3379 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118900 @ 0.00054519 = 64.8231 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92006 @ 0.00055328 = 50.9051 BTC [+]
shinohai: @ shesek: http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/50272987.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TC77tl )
dignork: Genius - https://github.com/tessalt/echo-chamber-js
assbot: tessalt/echo-chamber-js · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1I2E6TM )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.0005464 = 16.7472 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 159100 @ 0.00053865 = 85.6992 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51759 @ 0.00053467 = 27.674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71250 @ 0.00054857 = 39.0856 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39521 @ 0.00055402 = 21.8954 BTC [+] {3}
scoopbot_revived: Continued DDoS Attack Against Qntra http://qntra.net/2015/07/continued-ddos-attack-against-qntra/
mircea_popescu: !up thomas
fluffypony: oh wow, we're graced by a Freenode staff member
fluffypony: maybe we'll all get vanity cloaks :)
mircea_popescu: !up execut3
mircea_popescu: !up dooglus
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i saw the guy before.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72229 @ 0.00055657 = 40.2005 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000022149d63270ab40d6eb8b1575f14151a1acdee6a22dad83 << so is this actually a nonstandard block ?
mircea_popescu: full of crap like https://blockchain.info/tx/48d38617f4953225279d0a41f0d3e3ceaef7667d834a4b0e46810e7d679e4dd8
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 48d38617f4953225279d0a41f0d3e3ceaef7667d834a4b0e46810e7d679e4dd8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1OcZfvb )
mircea_popescu: 4574 of that crap, in a 4797 total txn block (avg is about 500-1k these days) ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00054514 = 9.4309 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00054119 = 23.8665 BTC [-]
cazalla: more drama https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3dautm/content_policy_update_ama_thursday_july_16th_1pm/ct3n7hc
assbot: yishan comments on Content Policy update. AMA Thursday, July 16th, 1pm pst. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Od1ezL )
Naphex: cazalla: reddit has been hit hard by the eternal september. you gotta be brain dead to even lurk around nowadays
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00054119 = 4.3295 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: cazalla steering towards wall confirmed.
mircea_popescu: glhf as they say.
Naphex: http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/TheSeptemberThatNeverEnded
assbot: Meatball Wiki: TheSeptemberThatNeverEnded ... ( http://bit.ly/1Od1HBT )
mircea_popescu: "But... the most delicious part of this is that on at least two separate occasions, the board pressed /u/ekjp to outright ban ALL the hate subreddits in a sweeping purge. She resisted, knowing the community, claiming it would be a shitshow. Ellen isn't some "evil, manipulative, out-of-touch incompetent she-devil" as was often depicted. She was approved by the board and recommended by me because when I left, she was the
mircea_popescu: only technology executive anywhere who had the chops and experience to manage a startup of this size, AND who understood what reddit was all about. "
mircea_popescu: chops ? expertise ? start-up ?!
mircea_popescu: pass the pipe brothar.
mircea_popescu: she's a fucktard, she has exactly no expertise or chops, and decade old failures are start-ups just like fifty year old starlets.
mircea_popescu: in any case, it's refreshing to see the new/old tarddit ceo is just as unreadable / mentally disorganised / clueless as the average poster there.
Naphex: how long can you be called a startup anyway? reddit is like 10 years old or what o.O;
mircea_popescu: well in lalaland words don't necessarily mean anything. especially if they sound good.
mircea_popescu: (where sound good = "i've heard it a lot, and the context seemed to me positive")
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102247 @ 0.00053328 = 54.5263 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, how's the cunt biz, Naphex ?
Naphex: mircea_popescu: decent. trafic slowed down a bit.
Naphex: working on getting more girls and studios on board, while trying to avoid all the chicken and eggs
mircea_popescu: hehe.
mircea_popescu: if you ever decide for a big move, i wanna hear all about how it went.
Naphex: trafic slowing down and hard as hell to sync the girls with the customers but happens on the rare ocasions
mircea_popescu: i'm currently very meh on the entire "advertising" bs.
mircea_popescu: "i know half my advertising money is wasted, and i can tell you exactly which half : both of them!"
Naphex: advertising doesn't work at all atm
cazalla: Naphex, how do you compete with something like mfc and livejasmin?
Naphex: every try failed, hard so its all organic trafic
Naphex: cazalla: easy. fast setup, fast payouts and none of the stupid shitty rules.
Naphex: i'll be launching a refferal program for xotika.tv later this week. hopefully it will help with the activit
Naphex: activity*
Naphex: thinking 5...10% of the mbtc tips routed to the referral
cazalla: can't imagine how i'd market it seeing i jump straight to mfc and don't bother googling .. perhaps keywords related to the country the girl is from might work "korean cam girl" type phrases
fluffypony: cazalla: yeah, I'd also guess that long-tail keywords are good in that space
cazalla: fluffypony, yeah i'd target that and if Naphex is offering 5-10% of the the tips as referall payments, pay those you sign up 1/3 to 1/2 of that to sweeten it and incentivise em to use your links (i wonder how this would work with coinbase $25 sign up.. offer em $10 additional bonus)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36714 @ 0.00055706 = 20.4519 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5936 @ 0.00055928 = 3.3199 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: coinbase will prolly shot you
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, if you wish to try for it : buysellads takes btc and handles coinbase. they do a patently insane .1 btc CPM so i really don't advise it.
cazalla: not too keen, can't imagine the demand for new coinbase accounts is that great unless they're coming from stolen ids and shit
shinohai: coinbase will pay u up to $20 for a legit new account. whiz bang!
cazalla: $25 i thought.. but really, that method isn't much different from roger ver's idea to set up a table in starbucks and sell starbuck vouchers via that bitcoin site wahtever the fuck it is called, forget
nubbins`: gryft or smth
cazalla: e-grifter
nubbins`: starbucks would 100% kick you out
nubbins`: you're not even allowed to take photographs inside one
Naphex: sorry caps
nubbins`: for alf: http://antilop.cc/sr/files/Silk_Road_JTAN_com_Search_Warrant.pdf ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MtOovT )
nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. " ☟︎
shinohai: There was a guy caught filming women whizzing in the bathroom at a starbucks near me.
cazalla: shinohai, they made that illegal here even if done in public
cazalla: that sparked some reading into the issue where i learned some dudes are so keen on this and they have shoe spy cams
shinohai: yeah they charged this guy with cp distribution because his sdcard contained childreen ☟︎
cazalla: Naphex, tough sell to market to bitcoiners though.. i don't know what the numbers for mfc are like but i don't imagine more than 5% of visitors actually buy coins to tip the ladies with.. fewer people have bitcoins and i'd bet a smaller percent would be willing to part with em for cam girls, at least at this point in time
mircea_popescu: i dunno bout' that.
Naphex: cazalla: they actually do convert
cazalla: mircea_popescu, any idea what a site like mfc converts at?
mircea_popescu: i've been out too long, nfi anymore.
mircea_popescu: when they first came out they were actually doing pretty good
mircea_popescu: for a brief year or two it actually looked like they may save pron from the tubedeath.
mircea_popescu: didn't really work out tho afaik.
cazalla: there are so many girls on mfc giving it up for free too
mircea_popescu: problem with this as anything else - no pros.
Naphex: Amt: 9.69881492 btcdrak AFKey: directCount:14277 <- xotika stats, first month
Naphex: so its actually pretty good
mircea_popescu: Naphex you know eulora made just about half that ? :D
Naphex: the count is the # of unique sessions, viewed stream
Naphex: :D
cazalla: i wonder if a clips4sale.com bitcoin clone might do ok
mircea_popescu dreams of a future where xotika-eulora have integration and people can go wank in a mmorpg
cazalla: those type of sites seem popular
Naphex: xD
Naphex: my biggest problem atm is getting rid of the damn blockings. Performers will come check the site for visitors before streaaming
Naphex: viewers check for online channels
Naphex: and nobody does a thing lol
mircea_popescu: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00055871 = 28.997 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42064 @ 0.00055929 = 23.526 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202343 << this contemptible bit of usgism suggests that one ought to use modern crypto in the camera. that would make it quite impossible for the enemy to determine that it had taken a photo of anyone in particular - or for that matter how many; or for it to disgorge any bits whatsoever to an enemy probe. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 13:00:52; shinohai: yeah they charged this guy with cp distribution because his sdcard contained childreen
asciilifeform: this is not hard.
shinohai: twas icrap iirc
asciilifeform: live by the shitputer, die by the shitputer
mircea_popescu: so then they can convict him for using a terrorist device in furterance of a terrorist plot.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: there exist no technical solutions to political problems.
asciilifeform: well naturally.
mircea_popescu: the solution to political problems is, was always and will forever remain, the beheading of the individuals causing it.
asciilifeform: but i'd rather hang for 'infernal device' than 'idiot perv'
asciilifeform: aesthetic matter.
mircea_popescu: yes but this is a purely aesthetic option on your part
mircea_popescu: like some women would rather go around nude in high heels.
asciilifeform: the other thing i never understood is why they have to physically retrieve the cam
asciilifeform: owner really ought to stroll by with a radio gizmo, no ?
asciilifeform: this is what, 1970s state of the art among pro operatives
nubbins`: tradecraft sorta died out
nubbins`: only so much you can learn from a manual
asciilifeform: http://rt.com/usa/273436-jade-helm-drill-explained << in other lulz !
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HxkKlO )
asciilifeform: ^ usg training drills for cw2
asciilifeform: 'Former marine Pete Lanteri has formed 'Counter Jade Helm', a volunteer group that will monitor the soldiers as they operate in Texas, with similar organizations springing up in other states involved in the war games.'
asciilifeform: 'Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott has charged the Texas State Guard, a traditional militia that numbers 1,900 and cannot be recruited into the federal army at times of war, with observing the actions of the special forces units.'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202285 << this is the bomb. it is intended to be set off by phoundation client decoding the 'undecodable', perma-forking the net. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 11:39:46; mircea_popescu: 4574 of that crap, in a 4797 total txn block (avg is about 500-1k these days)
asciilifeform: axe-time, sword-time.
mircea_popescu: mmm
mircea_popescu: possibru.
mircea_popescu: except those look empty.
asciilifeform: didja hand-decode'em ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not sure ;/
asciilifeform: anybody got a raw bitwise dump of that block handy ?
mircea_popescu: my nodes won't currently eat it.
scoopbot_revived: Good Morning ISIS. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/15/good-morning-isis/
mircea_popescu: yet strator does.
asciilifeform has spoken before re: the need for actual debug visibility into known tx on a node
asciilifeform: i would dearly like to know what it thinks it has eaten.
mircea_popescu: your own node is past 364671 is it not ?
asciilifeform: long past.
asciilifeform: s.nsa node has been fully synced in real time since the clock thing
mircea_popescu: so you can spit it out
asciilifeform: 365435 at this moment
mircea_popescu: tell me if they're empty too.
asciilifeform: it is running plain 'stator' without the shitter/eater at present
asciilifeform: (i will be updating it some time this week)
mircea_popescu: ah. k.
asciilifeform: 50 connections presently.
nubbins`: i gotta get on that
nubbins`: so little time tho
thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also why is my reverse dns 'archive.today'
mircea_popescu: huh ?
asciilifeform: s.nsa box
mircea_popescu: i've not touched it.
asciilifeform: oh it was like this from day1
mircea_popescu has no idea.
asciilifeform: i think the keeper never reset the reverse dns
nubbins`: heh
asciilifeform: might like to politely ask him.
mircea_popescu: you set up that thing iirc.
asciilifeform: i have no access to this
asciilifeform: it isn't on the box proper.
mircea_popescu: dns zone ? it's on the machine no ?
mircea_popescu: what ns it uses ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73419 @ 0.00055935 = 41.0669 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform digs
mircea_popescu: dns1-5.registrar-servers.com looks like the registrar maintains your ns.
asciilifeform may have fixed, but is loathe to restart the box and lose a week+ of phuctor
mircea_popescu: does reverse dns make a diff to you anwyay ?
asciilifeform: not a titanic difference
mircea_popescu: so it'll kick in next it reboots.
asciilifeform: but places like the 'bitnodes' phonebook etc are showing 'archive.today' which is mildly confusing
mircea_popescu: pray for rain
asciilifeform: l0l aha.
asciilifeform is marvelling at the sheer winblowzistic retardation of having to restart anything to change a simple knob
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/
assbot: Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn3Zix )
mircea_popescu: ahh, the perfume of antiques.
nubbins`: like having to let the stove cool down before switching pots
asciilifeform: btw this is a glibcism!
asciilifeform: nubbins`: this is rather more like having to demolish and rebuild your kitchen when switching pots.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52769 @ 0.00056314 = 29.7163 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: cut the breaker at the box, let the iron cool
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202337 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 12:57:08; nubbins`: for alf: http://antilop.cc/sr/files/Silk_Road_JTAN_com_Search_Warrant.pdf
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202339 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 12:57:37; nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. " ☟︎
nubbins`: of course, past performance is not an indicator of &c &c
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/c766d065a39cb0232f82030f79f3e8bf/tumblr_n7o3uw4HGH1tf0vpqo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7rNIa )
nubbins`: ehh
nubbins`: this kicked up a bit of a stink here yesterday:
nubbins`: http://www.thetelegram.com/Opinion/Letter-to-the-editor/2015-07-11/article-4208931/City-invades-private-homes/1
assbot: City invades private homes - Letter to the editor - The Telegram ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7rZqG )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202458 << usg sop. consider, if they did not proclaim to have found 'quality dope', might have to let him go ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 14:29:58; assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 12:57:37; nubbins`: "The substances purchased have been various Schedule I and II drugs, including ecstasy, cocaine, heroin, LSD, and others. As of April 2013, at least 56 samples of these purchases have been laboratory-tested, and, of these, 54 have shown high purity levels of the drug the item was advertised to be on Silk Road. "
scoopbot_revived: Eulora Sunday Event - July the 19th http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-sunday-event-july-the-19th/
asciilifeform: nubbins`: afaik house-to-house searches are perfectly legal in ca ?
nubbins`: asciilifeform iirc, a kg of brown substance that's 5% hashish and 95% chocolate is considered a kg of hash
asciilifeform: nubbins`: aha. this is especially lulzy re: lsd
nubbins`: 8)
nubbins`: .005% active ingredient
nubbins`: asciilifeform this was a city assessor demanding entry under threat of fines
nubbins`: council decided they'd better clear the air today:
nubbins`: http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2015-07-14/article-4214517/Residents-don%26rsquo%3Bt-have-to-allow-assessors-in%2C-says-councillor/1
assbot: Residents don’t have to allow assessors in, says councillor - Local - The Telegram ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn4Pfh )
nubbins`: “If you refuse them entry into the home, that’s fine. The assessor won’t go any further with that. The assessment work is then done from outside the home.”
nubbins`: lel
asciilifeform: nubbins`: btw this is sop for rented dwellings in usa
asciilifeform: i actually had an assessor visit a month or so ago
nubbins`: apparently sop here too
asciilifeform: took photos, too. every room
asciilifeform: 100% in the contract.
nubbins`: council clarified they're specifically not "inspecting" or looking for code violations
nubbins`: just extra apartments, additions, etc that'd impact prop tax
nubbins`: asciilifeform landlords have the right to inspect property here with 24h notice
asciilifeform: aha
nubbins`: somewhat related, we've decided to keep the second house for another 5
nubbins`: i am two mortgages, hear me roar
asciilifeform: and over here, it even includes photos. for sale ad, or 'refinance', etc
asciilifeform: don't leave the seekrit documentz out.
asciilifeform: (if strangers ~don't~ ever invade your house, but the latter has... windows - same applies)
nubbins`: heh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the "laboratory testing" where some woman in mass was found to have out and out lied over thousands of cases, resulting in a bazillion overturn or retried cases ?
asciilifeform: aha
nubbins`: somewhat related, the interest rates on mortgages are INSANE right now
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not afaik. why would they.
nubbins`: they wouldn't because then there would be no labs left
asciilifeform: not like they ~want~ to find more of this.
mircea_popescu: so... yeah. it's probably rampant, half the labs just fgind what the da says and the rest have no clue what year it is.
nubbins`: i think we renewed at smth like 2.5%?
mircea_popescu: anything over 0.3 or so is a joek.
nubbins`: hey, 's life
nubbins`: mine from ~4 years ago is around 3.6%
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/c54dae92e84d836c68e2a667f7d45dba/tumblr_n15ldcHA9o1rtx81jo1_1280.jpg << guard room to the slavecoin mining facility.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn5IEv )
nubbins`: thought about selling the second home
nubbins`: decided we probably would not be in a position to repurchase a second home in the future, should we so desire
nubbins`: & so
gribble: Error: "so" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: ...
asciilifeform repurchases shirt on his back
asciilifeform refinances 2nd shirt
mircea_popescu: see, if you didn't do enough drugs in your youth ? nubbins` got you licked.
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=/Marilyn:0.9.99 << anyone know ?
assbot: Snapshot of reachable nodes in the Bitcoin network - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7u06b )
asciilifeform: could easily be a 'second us'
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thisisthat/texas-sugar-water-bring-your-kids-to-work-day-newfoundland-apology-no-gambling-casino-1.2843567/texas-town-adds-sugar-to-water-supply-to-encourage-residents-to-drink-more-water-1.2843568?segtest=1
assbot: Texas town adds sugar to water supply to encourage residents to drink more water - Home | This is That with Pat Kelly and Peter Oldring | CBC Radio ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7u3Pv )
nubbins`: i read this with wide-eyed amazement until they said 4 tbsp of sugar per 8oz water
nubbins`: then was mildly annoyed at myself
asciilifeform: 'the onion' ?
nubbins`: cbc equiv
nubbins`: "we don't just talk about the issues, we fabricate them"
nubbins`: asciilifeform refinancing anything isn't in the books
nubbins`: it would be fairly difficult to lose money on this
nubbins`: in fact, due to accelerated payments, the house could lose 40% of its value over the next 5 years and we could still sell it for a profit
asciilifeform: neat
asciilifeform: i'm not sure even my organs will be sold at a profit.
nubbins`: not by you, anyway!
asciilifeform: https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/?q=/Ender:
assbot: Snapshot of reachable nodes in the Bitcoin network - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn7iGr )
nubbins`: my biggest worry was some sort of major catastrophe happening and not being able to cover repairs
nubbins`: but i think at this point, everything that could go wrong already has
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they haven't invented insurance yet in ca ?
nubbins`: there's a lotta shit insurance doesn't cover
nubbins`: even if it does cover it, takes weeks/months to settle claim
asciilifeform: so get moar insurance ?
nubbins`: meantime, you've got a hole in the side of your house or a flooded basement or w/e
nubbins`: water damage is specifically excluded from most insurance contracts
nubbins`: anyway, i'm pretty much a home repair expert by now
nubbins`: trial by fire
nubbins`: "yeah, we have rent here for you... and there's a gallon a minute pouring through the first floor ceiling"
mats: 10:40:46 <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform recall the "laboratory testing" where some woman in mass was found to have out and out lied over thousands of cases, resulting in a bazillion overturn or retried cases ? << another chick was found to be doing the same thing in 2014
mats: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/01/chemist.html
assbot: Northampton chemist Sonja Farak gets 18 months in jail for tampering with drug samples | masslive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn7WUd )
mats: another one in MA, no less
asciilifeform: l0l, that's a woman ?
chetty: https://archive.is/ybntU
assbot: Qntra | Reporting the Intersection of Bitcoin, Technology, and Politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn8dGI )
asciilifeform: chetty: qntra loads here
chetty: yeah its good here too, now
asciilifeform: 'By stealing cocaine from the crime lab at the University of Massachusetts, Farak undermined public faith in the criminal justice system and sabotaged drug prosecutions in four western counties, Rup said during a hearing' << l0l!!
asciilifeform: stole, ate ?
asciilifeform: 'For Farak, crack cocaine was not a party drug, but a way of controlling depression, Pourinski said. “It was about coping; it certainly wasn’t about having fun; I don’t think she’s had fun in quite a while,” she added.' << paging tlp!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103200 @ 0.0005587 = 57.6578 BTC [-]
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: implying that most cocaine users do it for the fun. ☟︎
nubbins` chuckles
asciilifeform: http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/07/crd_metalworks_denied_special.html << from same rag
assbot: Confederate flag-flying CRD Metalworks may move 14 jobs from Williamsburg to Hatfield | masslive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn90aJ )
nubbins`: implying that regular cocaine users don't just use it to cope
nubbins`: etc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51489 @ 0.00055838 = 28.7504 BTC [-]
nubbins`: For Farak, crack cocaine was used for the same goddamn reason everyone else uses it, Pourinski didn't but should have said
asciilifeform: '"I was not happy that we had to find this way," said Locke. "CRD employs 10 to 15 people, and they make a good, well-designed product. But we had to follow the rules." Issues around the Confederate battle flag did not enter into the Planning Board's deliberations, said Locke, adding in an email that "this is a very successful business that outgrew its existing location and permitting."'
asciilifeform: can't make this shit up if i tried.
shinohai: https://mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg00500.html ☟︎
assbot: [bitcoin-dev] Significant losses by double-spending unconfirmedtransactions ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sn9bD8 )
nubbins`: it outgrew its permits
nubbins`: heh
asciilifeform: ^ zeroconf idiocy, news at 11?
nubbins`: "loltasticly a Mike Hearn Bitcoin XT node was used to relay the double-spends"
asciilifeform: who the fuck uses zeroconf and why.
nubbins`: all the rubes buying coffees?
nubbins`: hm, wonder if there are any plantations accepting btc
nubbins`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hN89U_XD9E
assbot: Interview With Creepy Hand Model (CBS Interview) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7xdmq )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47721 @ 0.00055717 = 26.5887 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48129 @ 0.00055717 = 26.816 BTC [-]
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/marvel-targets-tiny-town-tilt-cove-for-ant-man-marketing-campaign-1.3152593
assbot: Marvel targets tiny-town Tilt Cove for Ant-Man marketing campaign - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1K7yI3O )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54808 @ 0.00055571 = 30.4574 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29848 @ 0.00057146 = 17.0569 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62700 @ 0.00054809 = 34.3652 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00057146 = 30.5731 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36252 @ 0.00057146 = 20.7166 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75948 @ 0.00057369 = 43.5706 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105000 @ 0.00055533 = 58.3097 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: http://spacecoastdaily.com/2015/07/blastoff-atlas-v-successfully-launched-from-cape-canaveral-air-force-station/ < usg manages to lauch another gps satellite
assbot: BLASTOFF! Atlas V Successfully Launched From Cape Canaveral Air Force Station | ... ( http://bit.ly/1fJrcQd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.0005763 = 26.6827 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71715 @ 0.00055341 = 39.6878 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22235 @ 0.00054194 = 12.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.000575 = 10.1775 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00057798 = 13.727 BTC [+] {3}
Adlai: n/bu37
Adlai: oops
chetty: brace yourselves, there is something new under the sun, the price of a pack of smokes went down.
Adlai: duty free?
ben_vulpes: no wai chetty
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: dumpblock killed my stator when i misscalled it
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: say more ?
ben_vulpes: myes, let me dpaste you a thing
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/31KP5N7
assbot: dpaste: 31KP5N7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1gCjuY7 )
ben_vulpes: you'll want more from debug, so hang plz
ben_vulpes: anowait, the dumpblock rpc is right there
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: paste whole log ?
ascii_field: i'm a bit puzzled what happened between '"blocks" : 331976' and 'SetBestChain: new best=00000000000000000138 height=335023'
ben_vulpes: quite a bit of time went by
ben_vulpes: debug.log is 500M, you want the whole thing?
ascii_field: nah
ascii_field: just between those 2 events
ascii_field: or hell, to the crash point
ascii_field: and see system log for segfault or the like
ascii_field: was there a reorg at that block ?
ascii_field: wonder if that was it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40900 @ 0.00054442 = 22.2668 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: http://dpaste.com/1DZN9W3 << last 500 lines, lmk if you want more
assbot: dpaste: 1DZN9W3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1gCkyLA )
ascii_field: i see no useful clues therein
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1DGVBQK
assbot: dpaste: 1DGVBQK ... ( http://bit.ly/1gCkGe1 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: try the mistaken param again
ascii_field: notice, no error checking with the filename
ascii_field: if this reliably kills, then blame yourself
ascii_field: take more care with the pistol. don't point at own head
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85558 @ 0.00054442 = 46.5795 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28504 @ 0.00053851 = 15.3497 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2HZD4WN and http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xbtXn2xM and also http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CUjm6ZsF
assbot: dpaste: 2HZD4WN ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuvHrP )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuvHrZ )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuvJ31 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: and probably many more will come.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-November/006878.html << see also.
assbot: [Bitcoin-development] The difficulty of writing consensus critical code: the SIGHASH_SINGLE bug ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuvTr0 )
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-November/006878.html
assbot: [Bitcoin-development] The difficulty of writing consensus critical code: the SIGHASH_SINGLE bug ... ( http://bit.ly/1MuvXHp )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119600 @ 0.00055304 = 66.1436 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: ascii_field, posts like that make me feel like liquidating
nubbins`: and putting the money in something safe, like penny stocks or mediterranean economies
ascii_field: nubbins`: this is when you ought to envy folks like me, who have nothing ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: for me, this whole thing is a game.
nubbins`: i envy your workshop(s), which i imagine is/are full of wonder and strange
nubbins`: for me, too, this is a game 8)
nubbins` generally lives life as if 1btc == $0.00 ☟︎
danielpbarron: nubbins`> ascii_field, posts like that make me feel like liquidating << haha i had similar thought
nubbins`: danielpbarron, it seems likely that kludges and bugs will be baked into Bitcoin for eternity ☟︎
nubbins`: should make for an interesting future
danielpbarron: such is life
nubbins`: harry belafonte should write a song about bitcoin
danielpbarron: i do not worry or envy though -- that there exists bitcoin as it is today and other things that go with it like what's done in here is like a miracle to me
danielpbarron: my expectation for this world is that everything will suck and everyone is stupid ☟︎
nubbins`: sure
nubbins`: but you do find beautiful flowers in the strangest of places, huh?
ascii_field: holy fuck is the mempool full of boiling liquid shit right now.
ascii_field: 'not enough fees' 100s in a row
danielpbarron: height=365405
danielpbarron: dang i'm more than 50 behind
ascii_field: danielpbarron: where are you syncing from ?
kakobrekla: pogo has trouble keeping up with real-time?
ascii_field: this was a pogo ?
kakobrekla: o was it not?
danielpbarron: yes it is a pogo, and it's not syncing from any particular node
ascii_field: what's in the pogo ?
danielpbarron: it says when it starts up
ascii_field: ssd?
ascii_field: and, presumably, configured for swap ?
danielpbarron: yes
danielpbarron: 2 gigs swap on a solid state drive
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: i would not be greatly surprised to learn that it does not keep up
ascii_field: also will not surprise me if that flash disk doesn't last the year
ascii_field: the keep-whole-block-index-in-ram thing is retarded and Must Die (tm)
ascii_field: ditto unlimited mempool
ascii_field: (see yesterday's thread)
ascii_field: the current turd is not 'pogoable' and i'm surprised that danielpbarron bothered to test it there ☟︎
danielpbarron shrugs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111623 @ 0.00055305 = 61.7331 BTC [+]
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub/364671.bin
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JimWOr )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DaJcdsyqQSs/UsiTXNHP-0I/AAAAAAAATC0/kiFRowh-J18/s1600/blockchain.png << see also.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzIoIo )
mod6: magic number is not 0xD9B4BEF9 in 364671 ☟︎
ascii_field: ??
mod6: !up ascii_field
mod6: is that what you saw in that block too?
mod6: im looking at the block, i don't see the magic number in there.
ascii_field: woah
mod6: http://dpaste.com/2J1JRCR.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiqujQ )
ascii_field: aha it
mod6: that's the first part of the block...
ascii_field: your copy same as mine, or no ?
mod6: http://dpaste.com/24VDKVN.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiqIHN )
mod6: maybe i got a bad copy?
ascii_field: same as mine
ascii_field: and now we know how blkcut died
nubbins`: it was pluto's fault
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0914 << blocks get written with this header, apparently, but it is never checked
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzLOuM )
ascii_field: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?_i=pchMessageStart
assbot: Satoshi identifier search: pchMessageStart ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzLQ62 )
ascii_field: unless i overlooked something
ascii_field: methings some clever fella is trying a frame-shift attack
ascii_field: *thinks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114976 @ 0.00054244 = 62.3676 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11774 @ 0.00053801 = 6.3345 BTC [-]
mod6: anyone see where the code serializes the magic number itself?
ascii_field: linked above
mod6: sorry /me looks again
ascii_field: pchMessageStart
punkman: which version do we target for bug-to-bug compatibility, since 0.5.3 won't do? ☟︎
ascii_field: 0.5.3
ascii_field: punkman: see also http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000115.html and http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000116.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] bip66 resolution criteria (corrected) ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzN2q1 )
assbot: [BTC-dev] bip66 resolution criteria ... ( http://bit.ly/1RzMZKN )
solrodar: sorry to butt in, but could one of you gentlemen working on this take a few minutes to check my call graph script so I can claim my payment?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79562 @ 0.00055349 = 44.0368 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: it'll have to be ben_vulpes or trinque; i don't presently have an install of 'clang'.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29438 @ 0.00055835 = 16.4367 BTC [+]
mod6: same
solrodar: what OSs are you working on?
nubbins`: where's your call graph script
solrodar: << instructions at top ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jit4WU )
nubbins`: and then i found myself installing llvm
nubbins`: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127200 @ 0.00055863 = 71.0577 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: ascii_field | it'll have to be ben_vulpes or trinque; i don't presently have an install of 'clang'. << solrodar: maybe later, doing irl work presently
solrodar: trinque: thanks
jurov: http://www.dx.com/p/islamic-muslim-style-home-decoration-removable-pvc-wall-sticker-decal-black-395762 lol anyone? ☟︎
assbot: Islamic Muslim Style Home Decoration Removable PVC Wall Sticker Decal - Black - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1GmyXjT )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00055606 = 13.0396 BTC [-]
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151347 @ 0.00055798 = 84.4486 BTC [+] {3}
mats: looks like the Black Standard, jurov
mod6: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38512 @ 0.00056837 = 21.8891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00056837 = 16.4827 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00057127 = 17.4237 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87791 @ 0.00056837 = 49.8978 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98345 @ 0.00053801 = 52.9106 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00053765 = 8.1723 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9835 @ 0.00053423 = 5.2542 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202572 << actually a pretty lulzy damnation of hearn. guy's the swiss cheese of software designers. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 15:03:02; shinohai: https://mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg00500.html
pete_dushenski: ascii_field so what's the deal with this 'out of range' signaturehash stuff ? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: i read the linked articles but they didn't mean much to me.
pete_dushenski: other than the obvious : bitcoin was written by the retarded.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202652 << always with the russian orthodox jew schtick, this guy. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 18:12:50; ascii_field: nubbins`: this is when you ought to envy folks like me, who have nothing
pete_dushenski: "being a slave is better than you'd think. being a freeman is for delusional suckers !" ☟︎
pete_dushenski: bah, i dun buy it.
thestringpuller: not everyone can grow a jew fro pete_dushenski
nubbins`: a freeman o.o
pete_dushenski: nubbins` not freemason, now.
nubbins`: i know what you said
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller i bet alf could ;)
pete_dushenski: anyways, bitcoin is bricolage, even if it's 'elemental'
pete_dushenski: nubbins` so why the 'o.o' ?
nubbins`: do you consider yourself a 'freeman'?
pete_dushenski: i would.
pete_dushenski: brb.
nubbins`: the o.o is because being a 'freeman' implies you're a kook, simply by virtue of all the assorted kookiness 'freemen' get into
nubbins`: gibberish documents etc
nubbins`: arcane declarations in courts
ascii_field: phreeman
nubbins`: right?
nubbins`: the word's tainted
nubbins`: it is like alf calling himself a 'maker' because he's creating a pick & place from scratch
nubbins`: and thusly putting himself in the same bin as people making secret knock unlock devices w/ arduinos using prewritten libraries
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202766 << the point i was trying to make is that the one upside of having pretty much no coin is that i can sit and think about the whole shebang going to hell without pissing in pants ☝︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:31:15; pete_dushenski: "being a slave is better than you'd think. being a freeman is for delusional suckers !"
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202761 << bitcoind is finally getting the fuzz-testing it ought to have had in 2011. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:24:45; pete_dushenski: ascii_field so what's the deal with this 'out of range' signaturehash stuff ?
ascii_field: and the enemy is in 'tilt' and decided to do it publicly ☟︎
nubbins`: ascii_field it's an upside of not having put money you thought you didn't need but actually sorta do need into bitcoin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 275950 @ 0.00053311 = 147.1117 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41868 @ 0.00053695 = 22.481 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: back
pete_dushenski: aha. see 'freeman' to me is simply free. man.
pete_dushenski: sleep ad libitum equivalent
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202786 << true. you don't have mp's 'problems' ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:39:33; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202766 << the point i was trying to make is that the one upside of having pretty much no coin is that i can sit and think about the whole shebang going to hell without pissing in pants
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202790 << hehe. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:40:50; ascii_field: and the enemy is in 'tilt' and decided to do it publicly
pete_dushenski imagines uncle sam at heads-up poker table with stan, the two staring each other down, sweat beading on their brows, knowing that the winner takes home the cash, the loser hangs by his guts
pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202797 << iirc he doesn't have this problem. fella was rich long before bitcoin ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 21:50:49; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202786 << true. you don't have mp's 'problems'
pete_dushenski: different level, but you're right.
ascii_field: at any rate, none of the diddles thus far would have made so much as a scratch on, e.g., 'adacoin' ☟︎
ascii_field: all artifacts of the cpp turd's bottomless well of stupid
pete_dushenski: ascii_field well adacoin couldn't wait until 2020 or w/e
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: it will wait until someone gives a sufficient fuck to pay for it.
ascii_field: could be a hundred years, could be yesterday
pete_dushenski: that and 'computers'
ascii_field: i say 'yesterday' because, as mircea_popescu is fond of reminding us, no one knows what is used on the planets where the miners live
pete_dushenski: well, we know a chunk of them were/are using spv
ascii_field: however presently his 'smart miners' live in the same hypothetical world as my 'meta-nsa'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00054983 = 1.0997 BTC [+]
ascii_field: i.e. by all signs they ~ought to~ exist, somewhere, but the evidence accessible to the naked eye is very thin.
pete_dushenski: i see mp's smart miners as a 'one day' phenomenon, and therefore more akin to your talebian dream life
pete_dushenski: both of which may well happen. just not yet.
pete_dushenski: 'after the war' to borrow a term
ascii_field: mno, my understanding is that he believes them to exist ~now~
pete_dushenski: that may well be.
ascii_field: ask him when he wakes up.
pete_dushenski: it may also be that we are 'after the war' already but don't know it (not that i necessarily subscribe to this theory).
pete_dushenski: that we imagine the enemy's cannon range to be far greater than it really is, and our defenses stronger than they are.
pete_dushenski: this seems to me unlikely, but not impossible.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: didja miss the thread where mircea_popescu told us that is appears my nodes are the last remaining known pre-0.8s which are unwedged presently ?
ascii_field: his - hosed, as of last night
ascii_field: well - 'node'-singular
pete_dushenski: i recall him thanking the heavens that #b-a exists, yes.
ascii_field: (i have two but only one is on a serious pipe and running 24/7)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80412 @ 0.00055923 = 44.9688 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19288 @ 0.00056764 = 10.9486 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: https://keybase.io/blog/2015-07-15/keybase-raises-series-a
assbot: Keybase raises $10.8M ... ( http://bit.ly/1CHYvwW )
punkman: "Only since the advent of smartphones can we create good public key software that doesn't need to say the word "key." As an added bonus: the more devices you have, the safer you are when one is lost."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98200 @ 0.00055715 = 54.7121 BTC [-] {2}
mats: wat
punkman: I don't know
nubbins`: ...
punkman: http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0718/450-year-old-debt.-Trillions-owed.-But-will-German-village-get-repaid
assbot: 450-year-old debt. Trillions owed. But will German village get repaid? - CSMonitor.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1CHZdKG )
punkman: in other news, greek parliament just voted for 3rd bailout deal
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49600 @ 0.00056323 = 27.9362 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: punkman: Really? The Greeks aren't going to conspire with Mittenwald against Berlin?
punkman: they played the ww2 debt card already
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: But the Greek Debt is nothing compared to Berlin's Debts
punkman: indeed
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo qntsideration : http://dpaste.com/1FZ3GS7.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI065O )
pete_dushenski: :)
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: DoS returned. Will try to get it up when possible.
pete_dushenski: sounds good man
pete_dushenski: with that, ima sign off. cheerio !
mthreat: ;;seen kakobrekla
gribble: kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> o was it not?
kakobrekla: m?
mthreat: i've moved the search.b-a to a new server, although it's running on the old one for another 2 weeks
mthreat: you control the dns on that right?
kakobrekla: want to change ip now?
mthreat: sure, the new one is
kakobrekla: done
mthreat: alright, thanks!
kakobrekla: ty
punkman: http://adage.com/article/digital/alibaba-yanks-job-ad-seeking-candidates-pornstar-qualities/298387/
assbot: Alibaba Yanks Job Ad Seeking Candidates With Porn Qualities | Digital - Advertising Age ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI1cP0 )
mats: http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/07/15/fireeye-intern-dendroid-charges/
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CI2Xf6 )
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-07-2015#1202744 <<< this would go sick in the rear window of my car ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2015 20:02:04; jurov: http://www.dx.com/p/islamic-muslim-style-home-decoration-removable-pvc-wall-sticker-decal-black-395762 lol anyone?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81650 @ 0.00057481 = 46.9332 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37599 @ 0.00058019 = 21.8146 BTC [+]