a111: Logged on 2018-01-07 22:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the whole lulz here is that the link the man himself indicates fails to deliver./
mircea_popescu: note that it's not me saying that ; for that matter i dun much link the vandalized mircea_popescu wikipedia page or any other such nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i did a bunch of that too, discovered that out of 10k websites, ~0 remain
mircea_popescu: minor lulz at the perishable nature of the hyper-tard-transfer-protocol ended up a major topic. i just snickered en passant!
mircea_popescu: wasn't he working on exactly this not happening by his own account ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the principal problem is that he's not very good at arguing ; neither from a helping the preopinent nor from a produce useful record perspective. these are the two principal goals of conversation, i can scarcely imagine a third.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fundamental problem is that only the elite have any use for history ; the plebs generally want a "start over tomorrow" world.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 19:59 mircea_popescu: but it's certainly quite deep. the vermin doesn't merely aim to a comfortable existence, but more importantly to a memory-less situation.
mircea_popescu: indeed the zek paradise is very much that "loose shoes and warm place to shit in" historical african's paradise : if they could pick up a new woman every night and she'd be gone after cooking lunch every day ; if they had to drive to a new place to start work every monday ; if there was always a new beer in the cafeteria and a new show on tv with a new identical blondy lead... scl
trinque: the "born again in cheesus christ" thing points right to it
mircea_popescu: hence all the "revolution" bs. o really, revolution in programming ?
trinque: grants magical perpetual reborning
trinque: that's what the nightly sorries are about
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, in other lulz, poor shop here in poor quarter, "se reparan zapatos ; clinica de ropa ; jesu christo vive."
mircea_popescu: the catholocism-in-orclang IS the fungus to begin with.
shinohai: Most of the dumb Indian hispanics from Central America around here go to evangelical churches, Mexis the majority Catholic here.
mircea_popescu: anyway, more generally, the idea that "the people" are some sort of thing, and to be catered to, IS the fungus.
mircea_popescu: distinction without a difference ; do children believe in nightmares or merely pretend to, or merely the misfunctioning of their undeveloped brain conflates two things ?
ben_vulpes: unrelated to anything, i recently had the most amusing experience with a "bitcoin cash" wallet where it *insisted* on creating a zero-satoshi output.
shinohai: lol ben_vulpes which wallet was it?
ben_vulpes: shoulda been the simplest possible transaction in the world, one output summing to the value of all wallet inputs less explicityly set miner fee.
ben_vulpes: it's what, 2018, and the people pushing altcoins are still struggling with arithmetic.
mircea_popescu: hard to fix anything by copy-pasting ancient windows ware.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you remember the article where you said something like "or the entrepreneurs will win and then there will be a decade of hedge funds making a killing on the opaque altcorn market before we kill them all slowly"?
mircea_popescu: this "emacs / xemacs reconciliation" is a tiresome painful fucking read. why the fuck would anyone consider merging xt in emacs ?! what is wrong with these people.
mircea_popescu: basically, a principled "emacs does not want or need window-decorations gtfo" out of rms would have been a lot better than his inept dithering
mircea_popescu: what does he imagine that he gains brownie points with someone somewhere for "cooperate" ? ffs.
mircea_popescu: the original discussion cca 1993 was centered around this\
mircea_popescu: in fact, i'm generally unhappy with the thin fonts everywhere. terms and borland back in the day had touched greatness wrt glyph thickness
mircea_popescu: i generally set up everything to more or less correct proportions, at terrible cost
mircea_popescu: there's a screencap of my yahoo messenger config in this vein floating about somewhere even
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:06 asciilifeform: of all the plagues discussed in this thread, i'd say fonts are the mildest, it is at this very minute quite trivial to operate a machine with 2-3 fonts installed , with ~0 surgery
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:08 asciilifeform: incidentally 'scalable font' technology was imho a failure:
mircea_popescu: i can;t fucking believe jwz and daveg are seriously discussing doubleclicking wiuth the spacebar
mircea_popescu: basically, technocucks so fucking petrified of their emotions and the structure of power, they will retreat into bikeshedding as a comfortable substitute for sanity.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, before you reinvent the wheel you should read the other things other people did before" "motherfucking hell what if I CAN NOT READ THESE PEOPLE!"
mircea_popescu: so sgml is a flaming pile of shit, oda is a waste of paper and i even read french, what exactly are these wheels one's supposed to not reinvent ?
mircea_popescu: isn't this definitionally what naggum proposes one not do ?
mircea_popescu: so tell me how is pstp going to work without a gns to reference container content names ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not asking how it'd be rendered, it god damn ed be rendered the same. im asking...
mircea_popescu: lmao so after stringing along "oh, we have spent so much, we hope to still work together, tell us how" for a year, gabriel is like "Unfortunately, GNU Emacs 19 is not constructed following modern programming practice - even though there are procedural interfaces to some functionality groups, one could not say that abstraction boundaries are maintained. The mish-mash of data structures is just too clumsy and incoherent to make
mircea_popescu: life for the maintainer easy. This is proven by the fact that Arceneaux was unable to add the extensions we needed to an early version of GNU Emacs 19 given somewhat over a year's time to do it and by the fact that it has taken you and Blandy so long to get GNU Emacs 19 out.
mircea_popescu: We believe that the merge in the other direction is the proper way to do things, and this is the course we shall pursue. There are things that you have done to GNU Emacs 19 that are good, and we believe that the best way to proceed is to clean them up and put them in Lucid Emacs 19. Maintainability is important to us because even though GNU Emacs 19 has no warranty, we must support a warranty on our commercial product which i
mircea_popescu: I think this is not a good outcome for the Emacs user community, and I hate to have to criticize the implementation of GNU Emacs 19, but at some point clean code and good structure counts more than a false sense of parsimony, and that point has been reached."
mircea_popescu: well thank you bitch, you ~could~ have said this a year ago and saved everyone the hassle. o wait, cuz needed to appear all humble and shit for a year to poach users / devs i see i see.
mircea_popescu: it's like watching middle class single parent 12 yos at work, mendacious manipulative little shits that imagine their nonsense is entirely opaque to anyone and everyone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in ~principle~ a container could tell you what class of procedure it wants to be eaten by ; and gns could tell you which v-trees implement it.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-09 11:38 mircea_popescu:
http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
mircea_popescu: anyway, so : a container could tell you it's a document, and it contains a text, a song and a picture. should that container end up on a list of things you're interested in, your client could then look up what to do with documents, and how to parse texts, songs and images.
mircea_popescu: then it could tell you "well, here's that thing you wanted in a browser, because that's where it says it goes, and we couldn't process the song part because nobody you trust signed an implementation of anything on the list of song things, but the text is there as per so-and-so-textizer signed by x y and z"
mircea_popescu: "and the image is in the list of things you don't want so we omitted that also"
mircea_popescu: and indeed, management of the implicit semantics in all this will be the end of the world.
trinque worked under a semantic-web-head for about 4-5yrs, built several incarnations of this kind of meta-browser monstrosity
trinque: dunno it ends up being any more complicated than existing DHTs but for the urge to make a giant, complex, systemdtron with myriad ways of describing the same things.
trinque: plenty of bad implementations already written
mircea_popescu: trinque the disaster i perceive is this : that a) the worst world is to have a lot of ad-hoc implementation of sexpr-datastructs but b) the cheapest way is a and c) the complete construction is unachievable.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform noodling phase yet, dun worry, nothing in my hand will get lost.
mircea_popescu: let's put this in different terms : the happiest life is, empty planet, where man can go picking berries / quals/womenz as he feels inclined. everything fits well and all is good. the necessary correlate is that the petri dish slowly fills, at which point incompatibles will result in perpetual war and strife. all is not so good.
mircea_popescu: so gns is basically just a lengthy registrar of assignments, a=b sorta thing, signed by keys.
mircea_popescu: there's no obligation on anyone to maintain any particular portion of it, or to communicate it to anyone -- can be run locally just as well (in practice, equiv rto "only trust my signature").
mircea_popescu: this much can be implemented without bothering anyone. right ?
mircea_popescu: v is basically just a lengthy pile of code trees, made out of patches also signed by keys ; in practice its coinvolved with the v-application, which can press etc, but let's here distinguish.
mircea_popescu: this idem already exists, and is not getting in anyone's way.
mircea_popescu: now let's look at how things work. mircea_popescu decides one day he wants to find out about sgml, and therefore instructs his client.
mircea_popescu: 2. the client queries whichever gns it is configured to, and inquires as to contacting machines which hold data related to this item. it receives a list of them, on the basis of what signatures mircea_popescu told it to trust signed.
mircea_popescu: 3. open link to machine, explain what it is it wants, get an answer in the form of "here's a list of document containers, which do you want". it explains which it wants (such as "all" or w/e) and it gets a container containing them. maybe it's gzipped or whatever.
mircea_popescu: 4. in all cases, a container consists of a tag and binary data ; the tag section of the gns tells it what v trees are acceptable applications upon that data.
mircea_popescu: 5. client proceeds to build what it can (if set to, and as per signatures again) and present the pile.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in this way, someone who wants to read unicode will accept containers of that type and have in his seals sigs of people who wrote such a tree ; and who wants to see (what now is) .avi or .gif or etc similarily.
mircea_popescu: ie, the whole thing can be built out of parts without getting in anyone's way whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: i don't have to have the people who want to use unicode to agree to anything in particular ahead of time, and if tomorrow they decide to call it fuck-bush instead, they can and nothing gets broken
mircea_popescu: there's no requirement that the gns even be properly global ; it's your job to make it global-locally and that's that.
trinque: this 1) agreeing ahead of time with pantsuit council on what schemas exist or 2) infinitely nested lookup tables for viewers is exactly what killed the prior idiots
mircea_popescu: you can make upon a private lan the agreement that "unicode" is how you call the tga decoder, and lo and behold... you read tga with the unicode displayer now.
mircea_popescu: so in the atomic case, practically overengineered but for the sake of understanding each other : each v tree should simply say it wants to be pressed by a v presser, and the client should inquire wtf that is and get one.
trinque: it also leaves space for *multiple* hypertext document viewers, many as you like.
mircea_popescu: obviously we all do this manually at present, but we really utterly don't want to.
mircea_popescu: obviously the fact that a bitcoin txn container will come with "this takes bitcoin" will not result in you recompiling bitcoin for each tx -- you already have it ;
mircea_popescu: and that "bitcoin" can mean whatever the fuick you choose it should mean.
mircea_popescu: so announcement of a new partch would be author changing his gns entry for X from press-to-q to press-to-k ; if user is disinterested he jkust gets dragged along, otherwise if user requires he sign local copy he stays put.
mircea_popescu: no more need to run javascript (ie, unsecured remote code) ; no more need to "ask people to upgrade" ; no more anything of the idiotic sort. if i want a cuntoo/mp-wp/we it is now i have to ask here, and maybne someone produces one. this could just as well be handled by the machines, it's a machine task.
mircea_popescu: item eminently doesn't deal with "programs" or "applications" or anything ; it's a proper url system, it locates resources. can put in the gns that you're a dentist in kennebunkport, maine, and if i need a dentist...
mircea_popescu: rather than the current "google search" utterly useless bullshit.
mircea_popescu: at least that way i have someone to tell his dentist sucked ; and he might negrate the douche. or vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: gets a new rating, and NECESSARILY more business, because now more people can find him.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 19:06 asciilifeform: Framedragger: note that this was the laughable piece, 'majority votes', i had nfi how to cut the knot of sybil etc.
mircea_popescu: in a sense moving the problem away into where it belongs.
mircea_popescu: oh, obviously : there's no possiblity of name conflicts, either. the fact that my key defines "usg" as x and trump's key defines "usg" as y allows us both to live our respective delusions happily.
mircea_popescu: but if i were to guess, i'd guess this is where it's headed.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-08#1766927 << needless to say re this that just because you trust someone's signature it doesn't follow that someone's obliged to distribute his patches to you ; this allows him to be paid for his work ; you're also more than welcome to obtain your patches from someone other than their author, provided... you trust their signature ; and obviously the author's STILL not obliged to distribute patc
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 02:02 mircea_popescu: 5. client proceeds to build what it can (if set to, and as per signatures again) and present the pile.
mircea_popescu: this then allows the emergence of software distribution networks, and so on.
diana_coman: in other gnupg-isms: it uses lcm(p-1, q-1) instead of phi itself, supposedly to make decryption faster but essentially through making the decryption exponent smaller; moreover, this is a sort of buildup on the whole pile of stink because it quite relies on p and q NOT being really random (if they really are random, chances are gcd(p-1, q-1) relatively small and therefore phi and lcm not really all that different anyway)
☟︎ diana_coman: (obv. no comments in the code to know why it uses lcm there, so the supposition above is entirely mine; if anyone sees a different reason for that, let me know)
diana_coman: asciilifeform, where the fuck did I say gcd and lcm same??
deedbot: btcvixen voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: Welcome btcvixen .... hafta to lurk until mircea_popescu comes online
btcvixen: what do I Have to decorate on my tits now?
shinohai: He should be here any time now
shinohai: Yeah, he will give you a unique string to write on your tits, take pic/upload/ get paid.
btcvixen: where do I prove I've been naked before?
shinohai: Well in otc you said you were on cam?
btcvixen: i have cam4 profile, chaturbate profile
btcvixen: shinohai, can i whore my stuff here?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 14:33 diana_coman: in other gnupg-isms: it uses lcm(p-1, q-1) instead of phi itself, supposedly to make decryption faster but essentially through making the decryption exponent smaller; moreover, this is a sort of buildup on the whole pile of stink because it quite relies on p and q NOT being really random (if they really are random, chances are gcd(p-1, q-1) relatively small and therefore phi and lcm not really all that different anyway)
diana_coman: "where nlen is the appropriate length for the desired security_strength" - where is this wonder in gnupg anyway
diana_coman: apeloyee, I guess that's the how come lcm, because they said so, yes
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> basically, technocucks so fucking petrified of their emotions and the structure of power, they will retreat into bikeshedding as a comfortable substitute for sanity. << Could not be more evident than in Microshit/Ubuntu "User Interface must change every major release"
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 14710.0, vol: 16245.50952799 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14589.0, vol: 56500.76635817 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 14600.0, vol: 3668.69709413 | Volume-weighted last average: 14615.2522153
BingoBoingo: In other news, datacenter meeting Wednesday morning. And ended up booking the hostel through the end of February.
btcvixen: can i link my chaturbate channel here?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, thing is: unlikely to make it much smaller anyway if p and q are chosen randomly, no?
apeloyee: but gpg uses CRT, thus shaving a bit off d itself ~doesn't matter. looks like "because said so"
shinohai: Block: 503136 00000000000000000077bb565be220f1cf03648453ef421b22f516d372ceee21 <<< Gotta mine dem Empty blocks so ppl will move to BCrash!
deedbot: btcvixen voiced for 30 minutes.
hanbot: btcvixen> name is Jade, btw. << welcome Jade, where are ya from?
hanbot: oh hey, i don't think there's any other jersey talent here atm, i guess you get to be de-facto miss shores. i'm in costa rica, banana area
☟︎ hanbot: what do you do besides camming?
btcvixen: not much, really hoping to get into motorcycle racing
btcvixen: really the reason i started camming
hanbot: if motorcycle racing plucked most participants from camsites i wager it'd be a lot more interesting, personally ;p
mircea_popescu: hanbot you mean the camhos or the zombies "watching" ?
BingoBoingo: Honestly incorporating that into the act could motivate the punters to part with the cash faster
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo considering the death of the indiancandy experiment... i expect the pebkac.
hanbot: BingoBoingo totally, camhos and sportsbooks were made for each other, no idea why there's nothing doing atm
shinohai: indiancandy came by as sofiababy last night while I was afk mircea_popescu .... still need a voice for the pr thing ?
shinohai does like her for her Brit voice at least ....
btcvixen: I have been patiently waiting here for this, almost in disbelief in what sort of digital harem you've managed to accumulate.
ben_vulpes: btcvixen: didja get bored of the #-otc babbling?
mircea_popescu: btcvixen holy shit you've got like an irc client and everything ? what are you, like a geek ?
btcvixen: lol, i've been spectating it for several years.
shinohai: There was a mention of needing a voiceover for tmsr radio production? I can dig inlogs
btcvixen: mircea_popescu, i generated 6600 coins cpu back in 2010, unfortuantely i got raped and spent them on heroin and they were gone by march of 2012 when they were worth $2 a pop
btcvixen: i've been cleaned up since march though, but i really could've used that $100 million
btcvixen: I was thinking of writing a book.... entitled "from hashcodes to Heroin: a bitcoin legacy"
shinohai imagines gabriel _ladell reading with interest, preparing marriage proposal .....
btcvixen: okay lemme go get a sharpie and my tits lol.
ben_vulpes: btcvixen: lol i was gonna ask where you keep 'em
mircea_popescu: yeah asciilifeform you should ask me computing things when you don't know what they are.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hue, ofc how silly of me
btcvixen: mircea_popescu, can i throw my twitter or chaturbate there too or just the code?
shinohai: Precisely how large are those tits ffs ?
btcvixen: actually i might skip that part since it's hard enough to write numbers mirrored on my own tits
btcvixen: mircea_popescu, case sensitive?
ben_vulpes: btcvixen: cannot draw visual palindromes on demand?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you also have any questions about computer things i could answer for you ?
ben_vulpes: oooh yeah actually yeah there's this thing called javascript and i can't figure out why it exists, what's up with that
ben_vulpes: hey asciilifeform what's up with javascript?
ben_vulpes: "eyy, so javascript am i right? eh? anyone? it's like, terrible right?"
mircea_popescu: this is because you have to ask me about computing like things asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: heyyyyy mircea_popescu why are programmers so angry
ben_vulpes: "we will *not* be shooting up, omfg. we will be *snorting* like civilized adults."
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 15:02 diana_coman: phi and lcm relatively same, NOT lcm and gcd
mircea_popescu: as in what, not huge tits ? chromosomally xy ? which ?
mircea_popescu: dude theo de radt discussing "Captured"... gimme a fucking break
trinque: BingoBoingo: ey, got a quote back from Latechco on a rack. PM if you want to compare
mircea_popescu: awww, jesus. btcvixen listen! this dun work for "transgender"! what did you think "any human female" meant ?!
trinque: BingoBoingo: not trying to rent the thing for you; just gathering ammo to help.
deedbot: btcvixen voiced for 30 minutes.
btcvixen: do you ask for anyone elses vagina/
btcvixen: or do you have special rules for me based on a whisper?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 01:25 asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo where was that hoster that'll host peculiarly small boxes , that you were using back in the day ? i have a buncha
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754247 that fit exactly those dimensions
ben_vulpes: (all you really need to see are the knuckles hue)
btcvixen: You asked for females to show you tits. I am female, I showed you tits. Why are my real tits less legitimate than a female with silicon tits?
mircea_popescu: btcvixen well, if you're curious about procedure, l1 invalidated your claim and you're sol. kinda how things work here.
mircea_popescu: but procedural approach isn't worth much in the republic anyway.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: first people whose names start with 't' and now 'b'
mircea_popescu: btcvixen no, the substantive issue is that you are not female ; you would like to be, which is fine, but it doesn't do anything.
btcvixen: i would have been fine if ben_vulpes did not blow up my spot.
mircea_popescu: the fact thjat you might've gotten away with fraud doesn't actually change the argument.
btcvixen: it's not fraud, i am who i am.
btcvixen: shinohai, did you purposefully bring me here to mock me?
mircea_popescu: the claim "i am female" is fraudulent ; you are male and will die male. this is something decided at birth and unalterable.
btcvixen: is this the purpose of your whole little thing?
mircea_popescu: if you are confused on the matter, pick a cell and a chromosome count kid, see if the sex chromosome is xx or xy.
btcvixen: why is it when i am hormonally female i function so much more clearly and feel so much more comfortable
btcvixen: there's XX males and XY females
btcvixen: just because your personal philosophy doesn't accept who i am as a person doesn't invalidate me or my identity.
mircea_popescu: btcvixen no, actually, nobody gives a shit about the obscure "i am genderconfused" demo either. the purpose is for the ~5bn extand females to earn a penny ; the 50k or whatever overfed white boys with too much tiome on their time isn't foremost on anyone's mind.
mircea_popescu: btcvixen my personal philosophy doesn't enter into any of this.
btcvixen: Yes it does, as my government id says "Sex: F"
btcvixen: and you are denying me what you asked for females
mircea_popescu: your government is about as interesting as one instance of dorks playing monopoly.
mircea_popescu: now -- stop making fraudulent claims, and find something useful to do for yourslef, there's more in the republic than titswriting.
btcvixen: i did what you asked for, why not extend yourself as promised. I told you who I am. I know who I am.
btcvixen: just because you say otherwise doesn't mean anything. You may have money but the one thing you don't have is authority over my identity.
btcvixen: I know who I am, and any little opinion you have is worthless to me.
btcvixen: My mind, my strength, and my integrity are worth far more than those 2 bitcents of pittance you offer me.
shinohai: btcvixen: nope, but the heroin story was grand.
mircea_popescu: !!rate btcvixen -1 attempted to scam bitcoin through fraudulent claims.
btcvixen: yeah it would have helped... but overall you just seem to be a shallow man that doesn't seem to realize the entire scope of human individuality
ben_vulpes: good monday, #trilema! are there any other marginalized characters who want to line up for a stomping?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes incredible what sort of inflexible thinker ends up sucked into the whole "no rly, i r gurl" subculture.
ben_vulpes: the speed at which the immune system kicked in was pretty impressive
ben_vulpes: "do we really hav to do this? IN 201y!?!?!"
shinohai: asciilifeform: did not know until now that Bfernandez was xy
mircea_popescu: somehow "The vaguely amused forum + mp rating is worth WAY the fuck more than whatever self-delusions i nurse, let me put this to use" is apparently inaccessible.
shinohai: I think I only spoke 2-3 times when I first came here with them
mircea_popescu: da fuck anyone could possibly care about anything OTHER than " got hanbot to talk to me and mp rated me"
shinohai doesn't think he has ever seen a bfernandez pic
mircea_popescu: shinohai certainly didn't attempt to defraud, the fernandez.
shinohai: Nah, it was my fault I saw over in #otc where was advertising cam links, I linked to article. But is user's responsibility to read
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean in the way "just heard there's weird internet money let me spend it all" ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai do a skim over see if there's "transsexual" or w/e mentioned, spare the future tulpas the rude reawakening.
mircea_popescu would be very impressed to see one that got this clue running, but does not expect to.
shinohai adds this to the list. along with his rejection of Colombian cows in the future ....
trinque: that just feeds into the precious cuntlet narrative in head
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 16:46 hanbot: oh hey, i don't think there's any other jersey talent here atm, i guess you get to be de-facto miss shores. i'm in costa rica, banana area
hanbot: fuck me, i'm lost in the fruit salad
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this wasn't always the case, once upon a time the trannies in times square were more likely to knife a less-than-complimentary strolling banker
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes when was this time, other than in pantsuit alt-history ?
ben_vulpes: at that time though the banker was likely in the square for the trade anyways, and so would know how to talk
mircea_popescu: ~only thing the weirdos ever knifed was their own, take the scum manifesto nutjob that iirc was on trilema even
ben_vulpes: well look i've got you on one hand and the gay elders who despise my generation on the other, one of you actually lived in new york on the scene in heels before it was cleaned up
mircea_popescu: pre stonewall inn gay men were ~police-beating-dummies, and post well... media whores. this "gay men, real men" thing may be a conflatioin with the west coast biker/leather bdsm gay scene, but
mircea_popescu: more of a mythological rehistory (like the "castles in europe" etc) than factual.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, about a third of the whores i shot porn with.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, i shall go buy more suits and things nao, so we can continue this laters.
deedbot: Swant voiced for 30 minutes.
Swant: Nope just a bad in-joke
Swant: I'm in no way related to ikea xD
Swant: Well I'm just a normal freenode staffer and wanted to check in on what this channel is as it was brought to my attention
diana_coman: Swant, how is that brought to attention? like on a platter or what? btw, there are logs, help yourself
Swant: Yeah I might have to look into those
Swant: But if you have time, please tl;dr; me on the purpose of this channel
Swant: Because from what some other users have told me it's for buying and selling porn...
☟︎ diana_coman: Swant, the tl;dr is in the chan's topic, no? Topic for #trilema is: You have reached The Most Serene Republic, the world's only sovereign.
Swant: Well that doesn't really clear it up for me tbf
Swant: I'm looking for the slightly longer tl;dr; then :p
diana_coman: trouble is that TMSR doesn't quite fit in tl;dr other than that, so ...it's logs; anyways, there is search function, guess search for porn selling or whatevs
BingoBoingo: Major projects in this channel include hardware TRNGs, OS replacement utilities written in ADA, and other peer to peer and noone else communications tools
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ben_vulpes: in other self contradictions of life under american socialism, google is facing class action lawsuits from both men and women claiming different kinds of discrimination
ben_vulpes: (damore, for anyone who forgot, was fired from google for thoughtcrime)
shinohai: Moar google lulz ..... I'm still in stitches over them getting all their bikes yanked, and spending investigation monies into finding out how this could possibly happen.
TomServo: In other news, A federal judge dismissed all charges against rancher Cliven Bundy, his two sons and another man on Monday.
☟︎ TomServo: U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro cited "flagrant prosecutorial misconduct" in her decision to dismiss all charges against the Nevada rancher and three others.
trinque: mistrial == avoiding setting precedent eh?
trinque: iirc these guys shot back at the feds?
trinque: if so, that. any situation where "shot back and won"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: i don't see how this isn't a won except in the minds of the feds
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 20:20 TomServo: In other news, A federal judge dismissed all charges against rancher Cliven Bundy, his two sons and another man on Monday.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-08 20:26 trinque: if so, that. any situation where "shot back and won"
ben_vulpes: in other convergences, one of the 'keybase' faces nominally also 'built' the 'okcupid' thing mike_c now runs
mircea_popescu: let's make this point plain, as apparently somehow it's not self-evident : acting like a mongoloid does not get you "suave" brownie points. it gets you mongoloid points.
mircea_popescu: there's something wrong with lanky adult failing to understand what the problem with child bikes are.
mircea_popescu: more like "community college in the general harvard area" but w/e. splitting pubes.
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