phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-05#1839743 << probably a multiroot situation. otherwise btcbase does sound alarm (e.g. the "deprecated" patchset has some examples). ftr btcbase is a visualizer of extant patches, it is to some extent more permissive by design than production vtron
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 22:57 asciilifeform: !!later tell phf
http://btcbase.org/patches/zfp_2_noc << is not a valid vpatch !!!!!! and yer viewer should have rang the alarms. it references files not in the genesis !
phf: also shiva situation is different. shiva pressed files, that are not otherwise referenced in subsequent patches, but which are required for the operation of final product. an out of band genesis
BingoBoingo: In other propaganda campaigns, OG Pantsuit Patrick Stewart has been signed to do a revival of his clasic series: Bipeds Sitting In Chairs And Stairing At Screens While Wearing Pajamas
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: i'm not criticizing, only nudging you to write your accounting standards down
a111: Logged on 2018-08-02 00:04 mircea_popescu: !Qlater tell spyked any interest adding ^ functionality to spykedbot ?
lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 4 days, 8 hours, and 44 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> any interest adding ^ functionality to spykedbot ?
jurov: !!v F1EFA757D912B86093632193C226A28FC8276DF750D94EB4DEC80FAD956147CC
mircea_popescu: jurov that'd be what criticizing IS, lol. not that there's anything wrong with criticizing.
mircea_popescu: the world would be a much better place should people actually do a whole lot more of it.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 21:23 ben_vulpes: so accounting's job is to provide a reasonable, non-malicious estimate of that value, and let investors perform their own valuation based on whether they think that a high or low value for the tangible in question.
mircea_popescu: just because it's short doesn't mean it's not great ; the item in question happens to be, specifically because in its shortness it manages to not contradict any of the principles needed by functional accounting while including nothing not needed.
mircea_popescu: but anyway ; much as in the case of "no mechanical trust", there's no such thing as an "automated" valuation. the value of things requires thought, at all interfaces, which is to say wheresoever the thing potentially changes hands, even if just mentally. these are just minute re-applications of ye olde "no possibility of meaning outside of structure of authority". of fucking course all authority is predicated on thought, and
mircea_popescu: of fucking course it's the substance and the liant holding the human world together.
phf: let's have us a look see
phf: asciilifeform: oh no i'm not about to start debugging the paste/webserver/download loop again
phf: asciilifeform: i saw somewhere suggested that there used to be a unix shell written in ada with some kind of ada like semantics, you know anything about that?
phf: (^ POSIX shell for windows written in Ada, presumably for adacore build toolchain)
phf: asciilifeform: well there apparently used to be a unix shell in 1980s that was written in ada, i suspect it's not the gsh above, but something else entirely
Mocky: ^ circa '96 "The goal of this binding is to make scripting language features, such as associative arrays, regular expression matching, and execution of OS commands available to an Ada programmer and to allow a Tcl programmer to use Ada in place of C where needed"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 21:43 candi_lustt: ben_vulpes: 0.8262125
a111: Logged on 2018-08-05 22:41 jurov: mod6: won't it be sufficient to do depreciation once per year, if at all?
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely clear as to the benefits of depreciation under the tmsr accounting regime; most of my experience has to do with optimizing tax treatment in fiatlandia which is irrelephant here
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes purely for meeting people's expectations ; depreciation is the principal faucet out of the tangibles bucket, so you don't end up with massive tangibles that are greatly overstated in accounting terms.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it is only worth doing systematically if it can be done in such a way as to not require phd assembly line.
mircea_popescu: a lot of what mod6 is stuck doing currently strikes me as exactly that, as the least constructive take (more constructively, it's training him in accounting and valuation fundamentals, which is not a waste at all).
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes in purely notional terms, the diff between a 10k btc tangibles line 0.01% valuable and a 10btc tangibles line 10% valuable is nil. but people have some optimal values so to speak.
mircea_popescu: man much better at estimating the diff between 1st and 2nd mile than between 1000th and 1001th
mircea_popescu: hey, at least there's social media and chick's rights, right ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-30 23:04 asciilifeform: 'As more people with less commitment to quality and much less attention to detail got involved in writing it, its educational value diminished, too. It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an in
diana_coman: I am moving my blog over to pizarro so I do need to change the ip; new ip is 161.0.121.198
diana_coman: still rough around the edges but almost there
mircea_popescu: should be fun to destructure the pantsuit style "platforms" anyway.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, if the NRA can't herd millions of poor derps through the visa gates to fund their flannel pantsuitism, what hope do the actual pantsuits have herding their poorer herps
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 22:29 mircea_popescu: in other lulz : femen, the "ukrainian" organisation is selling shit priced in dollars via 2checkout.com, the columbus ohio us corp.
mircea_popescu: how about 100% of "donations" to, say, pantsuited hilarity campaign were in fact imaginary ?
diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in this same vein, nra can't, but "black women code" can.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman you call them with space double parens " (("
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and in this same vein, nra can't, but "black women code" can. << Well, the big NRA take is from ranges mandating an NRA membership to join and manufacterers throwing in X length of NRA memberhsip with purchase
mircea_popescu: yes, but your question was in the format "how can car manufacturer compete with print shop printig pictures of cars". well... the OTHER people DO NOT actually get anyone to donate anything.
diana_coman: it's not in plugins.php atm, that much is clear; maybe hanbot can help as she seems to have the footnotes working on her blog
mircea_popescu: nra is working the wrong end of the funnel, it's a whole lot easier to get visa to pretend like you got 10mn donated than to get 1mn derps to send you a tenner each
diana_coman: or esthlos lobbes? how did you get the footnotes working on mp-wp?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you understand this, right, ALL of the "mainstream" in pantsuit narrative is 100% fabricated astroturf. nobody ~actually buys~, actually subscrtibes, actually anything. vice has a readership of maybe 10 people in a good day.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:35 asciilifeform: who was, for some years, subscribed to all kinds of nonsensical snailmail spamola as result of once being in 'nra'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more than very little is still useless here.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 23:36 asciilifeform: and yes, being on that list apparently nominates you for EVERY pyramid scheme, herbal viagra, !!!!!!URGENT!!!!! faux-irs envelope, etc. scam in usa.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Astroturf and forced memes. CC fraud and Union dues.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the true problem here is that restaurant is attempting to compete with online simulation of restaurant.
mircea_popescu: by now they've faked the faking to the point there's truly and overwhelmingly absolutely nothing there.
mircea_popescu: and they gotta be "secret", specificalkly because it's rarely half a dozen attendance.
mircea_popescu: it ain't 2000 anymore, when /b/ decided time's man of the year to be m00t.
mircea_popescu: it's 20 years after that, after tmsr ended clinton's presidential hopes and so on and so forth.
BingoBoingo has fond memories of getting cashiers checks from the grocery store to order camping supplies from the "Cheaper than dirt" print catalog back when it sold cool shit
BingoBoingo: Back in the days when it was full of looted eastern block cool
mircea_popescu: right, because when the us can't sell its useless shit in russia it's "russia embargo", and when us can't afford to buy russian shit it's "obama banned".
BingoBoingo: That it did. Now it's all just new manufacter chicom nylon
mircea_popescu: so lucky, the ustards, that they have a patriarch there at the ready to set the sun every time the sun sets and raise it again every time it raises again.
BingoBoingo: Or any sks at all, so long as it's not a Chicom one (Clinton I regime weird)
mircea_popescu eagerly awaits the time "most advanced army in world" comes back "not defeated" from whatever shithole, but instead complaining that "the barbarians don't understand how the world works", "aren't used correctly '''advanced''' weaponry" etc
mircea_popescu: "republic not using nato-based warheads means we can't turn them off! SECURITY THREAT!111"
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 19:33 diana_coman: ugh, on mp-wp I have avatars fine but I don't have footnotes?
BingoBoingo: TBF he did get to the slave name discussion
diana_coman: I almost hoped to read "diana has trouble fucking the goats with eucrypt on musl cuntoo"
mircea_popescu: anyway esthlos i know it's hard but srsly, don't give it up, it's entertaining and perhaps marginally even useful. "Hence I'm changing my base organizational approach and will be prioritizing the log reading above Keccak and other projects, to move towards the desired number." pfff!!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: re that "bloopers" item, "The inhabitants of Egypt were called mummies." << it seems rather suspicious to me that this exact item tends ot lead ro internet collections also. da fuck
☟︎ diana_coman: yeah, that there is a fun read but as asciilifeform said most probably a cultured pearl essentially
mircea_popescu: "Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice they didn't ask for, a service for which he was eventually killed. Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock." << not even bad (slightly corrected)
BingoBoingo: This doesn't seem like a blooper: "He also signed the Emasculation Proclamation, and the Fourteenth Amendment gave the ex-Negroes citizenship. "
mircea_popescu: "Martin Luther Cling was nailed to the church door at Wittenberg for selling papal indulgences. He died a horrible death, being excommunicated by a bull." yeah not altogether terrible.
BingoBoingo: Those things support the cultured pearl theory. A hive mind that reliably bloopered this way wouldn't be as bad a the true Reddit
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 20:17 mircea_popescu: re that "bloopers" item, "The inhabitants of Egypt were called mummies." << it seems rather suspicious to me that this exact item tends ot lead ro internet collections also. da fuck
mircea_popescu: same flatfile that had the toilet "operating system" lampoon and so on
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 19:57 BingoBoingo: (missing of course all the other .30s
BingoBoingo: Well there's a few other missing anglophone .30's the .30-06, the Brit shit, etc
BingoBoingo: Ah, I was under the impression it may have been the new .308 (7.62 Nato)
BingoBoingo: The newer (~1950s) 7.62 nato is quite a bit shorter. .30-06 is classic full size/full power. 7.62/.308 Nato is compact size/full power, being the bullet US police shoot people with in standoffs
mircea_popescu: "polizei is wermacht that couldn't be taught aiming" or what.
BingoBoingo: US doctrine is a dozen people pointing firearms and one pulling the trigger at a person
BingoBoingo: Right, shephard/sheep situation. One guy gets a rifle and the report panics the rest of the piggies
BingoBoingo: Still in business. Won some case about spamming his 3d printed hazards everywhere
BingoBoingo: Of course his win was swiftly followed by an injuction because "Think of the hands!"
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is such a pleasant donjon over a vast field of "revolutionary!"
mircea_popescu: recall how the whole sintered magic was going to "change the world as you know it" ?
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile the Chinese are thumping their chests about a "practical laser rifle"
BingoBoingo: Right, then the EU cucks panicked. And the Chinese moved past blinding
a111: Logged on 2016-10-17 05:30 ben_vulpes: i am more interested in the "never get close enough"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sometimes it's fun to consider what "revolutionary" items like this would make of the past. like say, submarine wars carried out with lengthy "swords", underwarer.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason ships don't try to swing at each other underwater like men do, or did, on ground ; just like there's a reason air-to-air missiles aren't propeller-propelled (while torpedoes aren't jet engined)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, ru air corps still teaches ramming as a legit move << Mass has always been the equalizer
Mocky: laser useful in the field for range finding
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:21 mircea_popescu: "oh it dun do anything, it's just oxigen" "sure. until the day it does something, then you'll really see a show"
mircea_popescu: Mocky yes, as far as information is concerned, photon unbeatable. as far as mass-interaction however, photon never ever gligible.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like an electric-h2/o2 super-soaker sized gun could perhaps be demonstrated.
mircea_popescu: but it's unclear to me it'd produce the sort of bang one expects out of a hunting rifle say.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's constraints. but anyway, it's not clear to me it wouldn't, so.
mircea_popescu: this may be the very problem : very fast but weak wave.
mircea_popescu: may be just enough to fracture your chamber rather than propel your round. i never did teh maffs
mircea_popescu: a major advantage of gunpowder is that it is strong ~but VERY SLOW~. in chemical reaction speed terms, the black powder item is an outlier of slowness.
mircea_popescu: anyway. prolly solid gold chamber better than solid steel. in any case this repeat-h/o explosion item is not either cheap or light
mircea_popescu: it's not soft at the speed cntemplated. more importantly, i suspect it's not friable
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just gave an example. understand, sea is made of concrete if you're falling into it from high enough. your perception of mechanical material properties is bound to low impulse, but things are different at higher speeds.
mircea_popescu: possibly the case ; in which case that'd be why no one tried.
BingoBoingo: A distict downside of transcontinental migration is that I can't open my copy of "Arms of Krupp" for insight atm
mircea_popescu: the one item chem reaction speed / reaction front wave is most sensitive to, is dopings.
mircea_popescu: and finally, specific form factor of chamber may also be important enough to worth mention
mircea_popescu: what, we went to school with kalashnikov, exchange many stories of weapons designed ?
mircea_popescu: strange that all the kids that "want to show futility of parents control" go to mall to buy emo geddup rather than burn down house.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 14:59 ascii_lander: iirc 'make me chaste and continent but not yet'
mircea_popescu: ww2 partizans had a credible structure of auctoritas, linking them to the very tree of reason.
mircea_popescu: (yes, there's no real difference between authority and authorship, in the sense used in scholarship. because how.)
mircea_popescu: ass of new girl has three layers of marks acquired in not even two days, and out of the balance of dozen+ she's earned. because, genuinely, this problem. and this is a smart & brave girl.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 20:58 asciilifeform: ( for folx who slept in kindergarten -- air is not perfectly transparent )
BingoBoingo: Well, what asset do the chicoms have if it isn't that their meat comes wrapped in smaller more numerous packages
BingoBoingo: It accomplishes untold DARPA wank in response
BingoBoingo: But on it's own that is blinding. Gotta amp up the power for more damage
BingoBoingo having a truly depressing experience searching out tomato seeds for the balcony
BingoBoingo: Typical Uruguayo seed vendor term of sale: * Por favor, tenga en cuenta que cualquier tipo de auriculares, audífonos y articulos de cuidado personal no estarán cubiertos bajo esta política de devolución debido a la cuestión de higiene.*
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1"
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 21:25 asciilifeform: was given by asciilifeform as example of 'what the 'open sores arms' people might do if they weren't dropped on their heads as children'
phf: there's no reason to search for further meaning
phf: in related i was recently rereading old issues of phrack, and the first couple of editions are more "anarchist cookbook" than the late 90s thing, e.g. in issue 2 has instructions for building a classic single shot "gun" out of wood and pipe. also much more practical piece of "open sores arms"
BingoBoingo: And for activity oriented Pizarro travellers
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a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 22:17 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-06#1840047 << i believe item in question started as "lulz what else can we print wit dis thing" kind of like at a house party at 4am one tries to figure out what else can be used as a vodka mixer, but the government ban turned it into "i do what i want mom!1"
a111: Logged on 2014-03-09 00:49 asciilifeform: it's a variant on 'ricing'
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 21:34 asciilifeform: periodically, uppity folx who need to bake something that shoots, in a hurry (e.g. filipino rebels ) rediscover the korean trick.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-06 11:47 jurov: !!pay-invoice mod6 4