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ascii_field: in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can'
mircea_popescu: nuts.
mircea_popescu: yes, jerry can, that's the proper item
ascii_field: also turns out that the other pogo (the one still in print) has internal sata
mircea_popescu: how big ?
ascii_field: empty jack
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i c.
mircea_popescu: spreading the news : http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4d16cb626a7d4213b9b6ae3500b296c/tumblr_n4vyxoGeid1txo69co1_500.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbh92v )
mircea_popescu: "Some people have been mailing me lately, random people asking me if their kids should go. It's expensive. Way expensive. Tough choice to make, even now, with Wizard Academy grads making anywhere from a quarter million to a million a year, while the rest of us plod away in 5-figure territory."
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is he on about ?
mircea_popescu: i guess im a later adopter than even yegge.
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: he was describing, i think, a fantasy
mircea_popescu: by now it's impossible to tell satire from an obama speech.
ascii_field: some sort of school
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mircea_popescu: http://www.chapeldulcinea.org/are-you-guys-a-cult-or-what/
assbot: Chapel Dulcinea - The Free Wedding Chapel - Are You Guys a Cult, or What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MbhUbR )
mircea_popescu: "Roy Hollister Williams is a best selling author and marketing consultant best known for his Wizard of Ads trilogy. He is founder of the Wizard Academy institute and currently lives in Austin, Texas with his wife Pennie."
mircea_popescu: wikipedia, ever so endearing.
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jurov: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021447 B (Total: 426.11 B). Delta: 0.15 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+]
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
jurov: O
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mod6: <+ascii_field> in usa everyone uses either the red plastic bottles, or goes to antique shop and buys nazi 'jerry can' << at some point in the last 6+ years, the USSA standardized the can. Now it seems you can only by 1 standard type of red-plastic gas can. And the f'ing pour spout does not work. It is a worthless pile of shit. It makes you twist and unlock it or some crazy shit. Now, I just throw the spout away, and pour through a funnel fro
mod6: It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can.
mod6: </rant>
mod6: haha, "Welcome to socialism! Here's this new gas can to save your retard children from drinking it while you're off doing important things."
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mod6: Oh and did I mention there's no rear breather hole to let the stream pour smoothly?
mod6: Nope.
mod6: srsly.what.in.the.fuck.is.happening.net
mod6: this is the spout: i.ytimg.com/vi/nytxlA-G1Sk/maxresdefault.jpg
danielpbarron: heh, that url resolves
cazalla: mod6, that looks like a combi can, not sure
mod6: ah, you know, just searching for it... looks like i can by a non-retarded gascan online easy enough.
mod6: i feel like i've said all this before in here too, then jurov linked me to something lol.
mod6: maybe i dreamed it
mod6: this is what i really want: www.hearth.com/talk/attachments/img_0736-jpg.72703/
cazalla: google search shows it to be an eco but quite similar to a combi can.. seems to be user error imo :P
mod6: yeah, eco can. im not the only one, search "new gas can sucks"
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mod6: the first one i ever used i snapped the fucker while trying to unlock it...
mod6: i was so mad. the girl didn't want to talk to me for 20 minutes because she said was laughing like i was insane.
cazalla: never used an eco can so i can't say, i just use one of these http://i.imgur.com/hcbpjLY.jpg with a spout but when i was doing some chainsaw work, they had these newfangled combi cans and those things are awesome
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzbBwC )
cazalla: a funnel i mean.. spout lol
mod6: wow. that's different.
cazalla: that is your typical petrol can found here
cazalla: for your mower and whipper snipper anyway
mod6: `whipper snipper' that's fantasic. im gonna call it that from now on.
cazalla: what do you call it?
danielpbarron: weed whacker
mod6: here it's called `weed wacker' or 'weed whip'
cazalla: nah mate, it's a whipper snipper
mod6: that's so much better.
mod6: this channel is awesome
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trinque: lol wtf
trinque: I just got a 500gb SSD in the mail supposedly for amazon
trinque: for someone who does not live here... with no receipt or anything in the packaging
mats: i bought one, it was 150
mats: 'Prime Day'
trinque: sweet
trinque: this drive is not getting plugged into shit
mod6: tomato bath
trinque: mod6: haha wassat?
mats: does that work on SSDs?
mats: suggested method to corrode mechanical drives
trinque: ah
mod6: ah, suppose not.
mod6: melt with blowtorch
mats: or just return it to sender
trinque: yeah, going to call amazon and ask wtf
mats: its expensive enough someone might go looking for it
mod6: http://trilema.com/2014/spy-stuff
assbot: Spy stuff on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mzckhw )
trinque: "As you can see, inasmuch as the seal has not been broken, the warranty still stands." << lol!
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mod6: haha
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decimation: mod6: http://lfb.org/how-government-wrecked-the-gas-can/ < of course, the reason for you gas can problems is usg
assbot: How Government Wrecked the Gas Can ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzcGVc )
decimation: they didn't pass a law, they just made it known that making gas cans that vent to the atmosphere wouldn't make them very happy
decimation: "There’s also the problem of the exploding can. On hot days, the plastic models to which this regulation applies can blow up like balloons. When you release the top, gas flies everywhere, including possibly on a hot engine. "
mod6: bah, i've lived in one of the hottest places in the world. sure, the cans get bloated a bit. just don't stick your face 1" from the thing when opening the lid. simple.
mod6: my favorite: "So for the last three years, you have not been able to buy gas cans that work properly. ..."
mod6: and it is true, i spill much more gas pouring it out of the open mouth without shitsucker nozzle into a funnel with no goddamn breather hole.
mod6: but fuck 'em
trinque: mod6: yeah, lived in tx for a long time, had these
trinque: you just peel the thing slowly
trinque: though I never recall having one without a vent at all
mod6: really?
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trinque: yeah, mine had tiny pinhole vents with a plastic cover
trinque: and then the spout on the other end
trinque: they still bloated up though and hissed when you popped the vent
mod6: typicall usg: take something that works perfectly well and then wreck the goddamnthing
trinque: somebody probably knew somebody that made the tardspout
mod6: oh ya
mod6: what's also obnoxious about it, is now i cant easily pour gas on my fire like a normal person.
mod6: i've got a wide mouth USG pos that would light my damn balls on fire in the process.
trinque: heh for this and other reasons, bitcoin.
mod6: so now i have to fill up a plastic/glass cup and then throw it in there from a distance.
trinque: and really, is there any higher freedom than pyrotechnic freedom?
mod6: im sayin'!
asciilifeform: aha, got one of these pieces of shit
asciilifeform: you can buy the nato-standard metal can (copy of nazi item) from various places. for now.
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asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
trinque: how bout that, something that looks like a fucking tool
trinque will have to see if the local army surplus has it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://imgur.com/RZjoXb9 << arm a9; 256M ram; 802.11; hdmi; usb
assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1MzdJ7E )
asciilifeform: <mod6> It drives me nuts, because I can't find a regular old-school (even a plastic one with a normal pour spout) to save my life. Might have to check at garage sales or something. All major stores only carry Soviet Gas can. << this is mega-lulzy because ~actual~ soviet gas cans were 100% metal, on the german pattern
ben_vulpes: ikura desu ka, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: how much does it cost, and does it *nix?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this one was ~17 usd (with postage)
asciilifeform: and yes
asciilifeform: (the plug in the picture was another few)
ben_vulpes: goodness. usb hdmi and all.
ben_vulpes: we can have wifi in the cardano after all!
ben_vulpes: someone call spamgun.
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: this one is for item mentioned earlier, 'what is the barfiest hardware that might host a node' inquiry.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: witness car2go, zipcar, the whole nine.
ben_vulpes: end game here is a share in a robo fleet.
ben_vulpes: might even approach full utilization of the capital equipment that way, instead of this insane 1:1 car:butt ratio where they're mostly stationary all of the time.
mod6: i like how ascii has the oldest looking deck of cards i've seen.
ben_vulpes: probably brought them over himself.
ben_vulpes: and not in the checked bags.
mod6: he has a eye for antique stuff.
mod6: when we were at the bazzar there was a bunch of neat trinkets
mod6: ok so you use this miracast thing and you link up a 500gb usb drive, good to go?
mod6: (is this like a google tv-like thing?)
asciilifeform: mod6: still need to do a buildroot for this bugger
asciilifeform: and also jurov pointed to a possible boojum (though i have seen account of others who did use usb storage with these)
mod6: ah. ok. looks like this one im looking at on google is $13.46 is that about what the cost is?
asciilifeform: varies
mod6: sure, but about same cost as pogo?
decimation: asciilifeform: worst case you can use it to watch turd tv
asciilifeform: (depending on ram, single/dual/quad core cpu, etc)
asciilifeform: decimation: the included fw doesn't display anything useful. just a menu where you can connect to local wifi
decimation: what's the point then?
asciilifeform: certain pnohes/tardablets are, i'm told, able to throw a picture to these things
decimation: sounds usless
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: hence cheap.
asciilifeform: no one thinks 'it is a computer'
decimation: I was reading my ham radio experimenters magazine today
asciilifeform: but it's a linux box, slightly faster than 'pogo'
decimation: the writer of an article was complaining that some of the designs featured in earlier articles are cranked out by chinese and sold on ebay
decimation: in this case it was an LC meter I think
asciilifeform: mod6: same cost as pogo - the castrato sata-less one - yes. but recall that pogo is a dwindling non-renewable resource
asciilifeform: hence the slow, leisurely search for possible alternatives
decimation: this guy http://www.dg5mk.de/pages/artikel/dg5mk-lcq-meter.php
assbot: DG5MK - DG5MK LCQ-Meter ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9GIRB )
mod6: asciilifeform: very cool.
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mod6: how hard is gonna be to do a new buildroot for this one?
asciilifeform: mod6: no idea yet
mod6: *nod*
asciilifeform: mod6: seems like the chinese units can be reflashed via usb; while google's 'chromecast', which is the exact same item but at double cost, has to be diddled via the on-board test points
decimation: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/17/tesla-announces-model-s-ludicrous-upgrade-90-kwh-battery/ < tesla figures out how to milk more cash from the only market they can: current owners
assbot: Tesla announces Model S Ludicrous upgrade, 90-kWh battery ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9GM3N )
mod6: i'll give one a try as soon as it's built and ready to test.
decimation: "
decimation: Details for how Tesla can offer this quicker option can be found in CEO Elon Musk's blog post (available below), but the gist is that a new advanced smart fuse for the battery allows an increase in the maximum amp throughout from 1,300 to 1,500 amps. This will cost new buyers $10,000, but current P85D owners can get the upgrade pack electronics for $5,000 plus installation labor, for the next six months."
asciilifeform: decimation: waitasec. 90kWh ?
decimation: yeah, they stuff more lithium batteries I guess
asciilifeform: nono, think
asciilifeform: take an ordinary petrol engine
asciilifeform: say, 100 horse
asciilifeform: 74600 W
asciilifeform: so ~75kW
decimation: that's the equivalent energy of about 2.5 gal of gas
asciilifeform: and that's all you get in this mega-car ?! ☟︎
decimation: yep
decimation: hey, it's better than 1 gal
decimation: asciilifeform: batteries suck, what you gonna do
decimation: if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution ☟︎
asciilifeform thought, for some odd reason, that 'tesla' included an astonishingly large battery
decimation: ^ save the laser fire in the streets
decimation: no no 90 kwh is the 'upgrade'
asciilifeform: and that it behaved somewhat like a proper car
decimation: it does, for about 100 miles I think
ben_vulpes: bwahaha
ben_vulpes: i'll take the ancient corvette any day.
mats: nah, does like 200-250mi in california iirc
asciilifeform: i could, just possibly, get to office & back in this machine
asciilifeform: if no radio and no headlights.
ben_vulpes: or ac!
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: (and no heat. in petrol car, you get engine heat 'for phree' in wintertime)
ben_vulpes: my ac is plumbed from the hydraulic system
ben_vulpes: kills mileage
decimation: yeah I suppose they have some kind of heat pump
mats: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=32557 << says 265mi when new
assbot: Compare Side-by-Side ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9H0YK )
ben_vulpes: refrigerates
ben_vulpes: god bless america.
mats: which is almost half what a hybrid does.
ben_vulpes: stop trying to disrupt the ice.
ben_vulpes: it is terrifically good at what it does.
decimation: there's only so much efficiency you can glean out of 2.5 gal of gas
decimation: plus, unlike gas, it takes hours to 'fill' instead of seconds
decimation: and the batteries get worse with age and cold
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ben_vulpes: there's also the 'battery paste' stuff
mats: i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind ☟︎
decimation: even if improved by a factor of 2x (energy density at the same cost) it would be a huge win
ben_vulpes: why?
ben_vulpes: just price gas out of everyone's hands.
decimation: heh
asciilifeform: mats: afaik, 'tesla' has done nothing whatsoever for battery tech
ben_vulpes: no, seriously mats decimation. why improve batteries?
decimation: no there was a 'tesla teardown' I linked here awhile ago
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: laser pistolz!
asciilifeform: why else.
decimation: ben_vulpes: there are loads of applications that become possible if you have portable high energy source
ben_vulpes: such as?
decimation: like lazer pistols
decimation: or 500 mile range electric cars
ben_vulpes: and what i ask again is wrong with bullets.
ben_vulpes: or the ice.
mod6: cell phones that last longer than 8 hours.
decimation: or home energy storage
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: recall the thread about 'brass is made at izhevsk' ?
ben_vulpes: the cell phone was a bad branch on the tech tree.
mats: well, this is thinking small, but i'd like a 'smartphone' that runs longer than 24h
asciilifeform: that's what's wrong with bullet.
ben_vulpes: well, tablet phone.
ben_vulpes: startac did no wrong
decimation: or double the power for the processor at the same lifetime
ben_vulpes: razr did no wrong ☟︎
decimation: ;;lasers
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
ben_vulpes: i'm growing fond of mp and alf's attitudes towards workstations.
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ben_vulpes: laptops are going to become more and more impenetrable boxes of turdware.
decimation: the main advantage to workstations: ecc and raid ☟︎
ben_vulpes: unrepairable, unimproveable.
ben_vulpes: decimation: and ergonomics!
ben_vulpes: decimation: and security!
decimation: the last bit I'm not sure about
ben_vulpes: decimation: and power!
decimation: agreed
ben_vulpes: you do not get the F1 engine power when derping around like armadillo.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> decimation: and security! << at lesat you can easily rip out the shit you don't want. as opposed to debate weather or not to get rid of the screen.
ben_vulpes: i mean physical security, but sure.
ben_vulpes: vaultputer, so to speak.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: speaking of
ben_vulpes: mhm?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'vaultputer' - recall the ancient thread re: nuke test compliance geosensors ?
decimation: even vaultputer needs i/o
mircea_popescu: mod6 lol wut!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: can take small computer, instrument with geophones, etc, and pour cement.
mircea_popescu: that looks retarded
decimation: https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DiG9qANf5PA "Something you did recently has been an unmitigated disaster. Of the roughly 1000 spam threads I've gone through so far, right now 228 threads were incorrectly marked as spam."
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrKT3I )
decimation: ^ Linus bitching about gmail
ben_vulpes: decimation: they are now refusing to mark spam for me.
mod6: mircea_popescu: wifi antennas
ben_vulpes: i suspect that fitbit is paying to get through their filter.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> this channel is awesome << bwahahyaha okay.
decimation: I thought the whole point of spam was to force you onto gmail
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: 'It wouldn’t surprise me to find, for example, a sudden proliferation of heavy-duty “water cans” in 1- and 5-gallon sizes, complete with nice spouts and vents, looking almost exactly like the gas cans you could get anywhere just a few years ago. How very interesting to discover this. Of course, this law-abiding writer would never advocate buying one of these and using it for some purpose other than what is written on the
asciilifeform: package. Doing something like that would show profound disrespect for our betters in the bureaucracies. And if I did suggest something like that, there’s no telling the trouble that it would bring down on my head.'
asciilifeform: ^ l0lz!
asciilifeform: 'Ask yourself this: If they can wreck such a normal and traditional item like this, and do it largely under the radar screen, what else have they mandatorily malfunctioned? How many other things in our daily lives have been distorted, deformed and destroyed by government regulations? If some product annoys you in surprising ways, there’s a good chance that it is not the invisible hand at work, but rather the regulatory grip
asciilifeform: that is squeezing the life out of civilization itself.'
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: do you know where this file resides? 6. Compile Eulora Add the following line to ~/.bash_profile:
asciilifeform: ^ actually 9 out of 10 times that i smash some piece of shit from sheer contempt, it is because of chinafication and 'market' penny-shaving, rather than direct usg mandated suck
mircea_popescu: i dont but try find -name bash.profile ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i gather the proposition is that these aren't different.
mod6: next they'll sell us a toothbrush that doubles as a jackhammer. won't need to prop up the dental insurance companies any more, no one will have any more cavity laden teeth.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is just so. but i don't think the fella who wrote the linked piece, would agree
mircea_popescu: it has a little leg to stand on, at least. inasmuch as usg claims a mandate to regulate everything, every failure of regulation is on their head.
mircea_popescu: well, what people do and what people mean to do may diverge, but nobody cares about the latter. the fellow who wrote it necessarily agrees, in the writing.
asciilifeform: the gas can item is notable for the sheer ham-handedness of the usgification
asciilifeform: normally they find some way to 'market-wash' the suck
asciilifeform: make it seem inevitable, wholesome, capitalistic.
asciilifeform: like that chinese flashlight, with micro and eeprom
asciilifeform learned that he still has the pieces of that thing, in a box, somewhere
decimation: or the phasing out of proper refrigerant
asciilifeform: ^ nah, that was quite a bit more like the fuel cna
asciilifeform: can
decimation: heh true
asciilifeform: 'envirowhinerism: expensive, shoddy, deadly.' -- uncle al
mircea_popescu: or the incredibly colonialist "now that the third world can produce lightbulbs, it's time to 'move on' to a toxic 'alternative' that looks god awful and will poison the immediate environment with mercury"
mats: fake pyrex
mats: le sigh
mircea_popescu: imo that's the top of the list of that stupid shit, and it's not even usian
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and when they gear up to blow the glass, fill it up? time for white led
asciilifeform: full of rare earths
mircea_popescu: yes. the lightbulb scandal is the one thing to hang people for.
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mircea_popescu: actually even above the "global warming" sham.
asciilifeform: the white led has got to be an asian revenge for the ccfl though
asciilifeform: usa is poor in rare earths
mircea_popescu: usa is poor in anything but bison.
asciilifeform: until recently - helium was a u.s. monopoly
asciilifeform: but it was spent. (how? homeland severity! neutron detectors at border checkpoints, $maxint)
decimation: actually they have plenty of them in the ground, it's just not very profitablel to mine/process
asciilifeform: it's a decay daughter
asciilifeform: so only so much of it in there, at one time.
decimation: no I meant the rare earths, helium is a problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you recall the philips cartel? the history of 'squeeze the third world out of light bulbs' is almost a century long !
decimation: really there's no 'running out' of any element - just 'no longer cheap'
asciilifeform: japan was supplying 'cartel-breaking' edisonian bulbs, to the great annoyance of cartel, in the '30s iirc
asciilifeform: made largely by hand, in ragtag workshops
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205196 << eh bs. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 01:43:53; ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> in retrospect, his going to war with the dealers sunk his car business. << Beware the trade guilds << prole ownership of cars is going away. period.
mircea_popescu: usians are going away. not to be confused with actual trends for actual people.
mats: http://sphincs.cr.yp.to/index.html
assbot: SPHINCS:Introduction ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrMjvk )
trinque: "Special note to law-enforcement agents" << sad that they felt this needed to be said
mats: >Special note to law-enforcement agents: ... We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours! Also, "hash" is another technical term and has nothing to do with cannabis.
trinque: heh yeah
decimation: "Signatures are 41 KB"!!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: proles are people nao?
mircea_popescu: "including bigger batteries and a quicker acceleration mode, called "Ludicrous." That option will take the car from zero to 60 miles per hour in 2.8 seconds. During the hold music for the online press conference, the automaker played some of Ludacris' music"
decimation: mircea_popescu: what else you expect, selling baubles to idiots?
mircea_popescu: bunch of retarded fucking monkeys. http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/v/19733f9b5da9864601475a8ba7c48a8d3e902be4/img/editors/sebastian-blanco.jpg << this inept fuckwit really thought THAT is what needs to be reported. ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrMqqG )
mircea_popescu: do they even have schools in usia anymore ?
decimation: it's the human angle, see
mircea_popescu: mats could have been lol but it lost me at "post-quantum"
mircea_popescu: i see the monkey angle there, is the thing ;/
mats: but, djb
mircea_popescu: ;;ud djb
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=djb | Not Djb or DJB but sometimes d~J~b. Looks better in dresses than I do. ._.
decimation: lol
mats: Daniel J Bernstein
mircea_popescu: o that guy. mkay.
ben_vulpes: i wonder how pete woulda treated the tesla ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205248 << been pointed out to death, this, but somehow the 75k fucktards who bought it just glaze over and it flies past them and everyone else knew already so doesn't care. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:02:37; asciilifeform: and that's all you get in this mega-car ?!
mircea_popescu: anyway. yes, electric car is a piece of shit submarine-airplane joint nonsense, specifically because there is no battery equivalent of fuel.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205252 << if ~ terrorists would also use batteries instead of bombs. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:03:20; decimation: if batteries were about 10x more energy density they would be the no-brainer solution
decimation: good point
decimation: or they would just laser-cut their way through 'strong points'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205281 << i'm cheering for that anon schmuck working on a perpetuum mobile to succeed too. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:07:12; mats: i'm cheering for tesla to somehow succeed, if musk improves batt tech thats a net win for mankind
mircea_popescu: the problem is, idiots working on wrong problems are not a net win for humanity.
decimation: yeah is there any evidence he has improved batteries or is even working on it?
mircea_popescu: which incidentally, since you don't ask, is exactly how love and hate works in this channel.
mircea_popescu: the more resources one throws at a wrong problem, the more thoroughly reviled.
mircea_popescu: the converse also holds.
gernika: Incidentally, I had the completely opposite impression that Tesla was catching on - having recently seen Tesla recharging stations at a Holiday Inn in Winnemucca. Seems I should have weighted more heavily the fact that -- no one was using them.
mircea_popescu: decimation well, hes improved the mass production part.
mircea_popescu: you can now get a 70kwh battery for cheaper than in 1995.
decimation: yeah I linked a teardown awhile ago - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-09-2014#837328 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2014 17:12:50; decimation: asciilifeform: some guy bought a 'salvaged Tesla' and did a teardown of the battery pack: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/34934-Pics-Info-Inside-the-battery-pack
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205312 << no. the main advantage is the screwdriver. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:10:35; decimation: the main advantage to workstations: ecc and raid
mircea_popescu: decimation yeah. and the impression i got, from there an' everywhyere lese, is exactlly this : neat execution, uninnovative.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing new there but they made it cleanly.
decimation: yeah, just a big package of standard lithium batteries
mircea_popescu: now if the us could just get over itself collectively and reach the humility of chinese peasants cca 1970, the us would be all ready to be china thirty years ago.
mircea_popescu: people like that black dude in wc metro are actually helping.
decimation: the liberal elite are trying the hardest to avert their eyes from him
mircea_popescu: this "liberal elite" thing...
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the us has an elite. merely a perception of such a thing does not cosntitute one.
mircea_popescu: who exactly, outside of that idiot mit kid, actually says "we are the elite and move out of our way" ?
decimation: somebody fills the plum book, decides what the ny times prints, prints usd, etc
mircea_popescu: if i go up to obama and take a leak on his shoes he's going to say "that's inappropriate" isn't he.
mircea_popescu: or "that wasn't necessary" or some bs.
mircea_popescu: what elite ?
mats: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120041623
assbot: Charge Rate Modulation of Metal-Air Cells as a Function of Ambient Oxygen Concentration - Patent application ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrNhHP )
decimation: you would be tackled and arrested (by 'his' people)
mircea_popescu: and charged with anything but "failing to respect the elite"
mircea_popescu: which is the tell tale sign of the absence of such an elite.
mircea_popescu: im all for prosecuting them AS IF THEY WERE, it's right and proper.
mircea_popescu: but that aside : they aren't.
mats: am not an expert by any means but this air-metal stuff looks 'next gen'
decimation: they certainly pretend to it
mircea_popescu: not in so many words.
mircea_popescu: unaware, unready, unprepared and undesirious.
mircea_popescu: an elite in all senses of the term that are negative.
mats: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120041625
assbot: Efficient Dual Source Battery Pack System for an Electric Vehicle - Patent application ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrNv1I )
gernika: Who was the last known elite person in usia? Someone in the Sicilian mafia? (serious)
decimation: mats: people have been coming up with battery tech for ages, with incremental improvement. I hope they can actually produce it
mats: I tend to think of the Kochs when 'elite' comes to mind
mircea_popescu: gernika possibly the psoriasis banker guy
decimation: mats: the Kochs are universally reviled by the east coast set
mircea_popescu: i imagine the sentiment is mutual.
TomServo: h
mats: how about the Kennedys, then
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1166/netflix-inc-will-trade-at-least-790-usd/ wut a bet.
assbot: BitBet - Netflix Inc will trade at least 790 USD per share before July 24th :: 1.26 B (21%) on Yes, 4.64 B (79%) on No | closed 23 hours 38 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbt0xs )
mircea_popescu: mats the kennedys never went out with a "we're better than you, so do it this way"
mircea_popescu: i suppose you can count the moon thing, if you wish.
gernika: !s psoriasis
assbot: 3 results for 'psoriasis' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=psoriasis
mircea_popescu: gernika jpmorgan.
mircea_popescu: how goes TomServo
gernika: ah so it's been over 100 years.
williamdunne: What on earth made them think that they would go that high
mats: yeah wtf is this bet? NFLX is at 114
hanbot: mats mind the 7/1 split
mircea_popescu: look who's not following teh market >D
mats: o, what's the ticker for the other
phf: i thought in u.s. liberal elite is a keyboard for professorial types with feminist wives, who go to opera and listen to npr
williamdunne: that makes sense
phf: *keyword
mats: nvm
decimation: phf: yes, the same ones who staff usg bureaucracies and corporations
phf: decimation: "we like to listen to tchaikovsky. incidently alexander berzshinkiy is playing our favorite tchaikovsky works at kennedy center next month."
hanbot: the same ones who'd buy a keyboard cause it's called 'elite'
mircea_popescu: phf yeah, middle aged men looking about as sad as the nayor of mew york.
mircea_popescu: such an iconic image, that.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-elephant-in-the-room/#selection-51.1-51.8 << there. that's your "liberal elite"
assbot: The elephant in the room on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrOqz9 )
mircea_popescu: in a shitty 70s suit, looking like they won the zoo lottery and it's more monkeys.
decimation: what do you expect? being carried in the streets in a litter?
mircea_popescu: if that's what elite is...
mircea_popescu: if anyone wonders what "lich" in that pic is, http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/albany/2015/06/8570923/lich-act-passes-assembly
assbot: LICH Act passes Assembly | Capital New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mbtsf3 )
mircea_popescu: apparently NEEDS MATTER!111
decimation: it's more complicated than you might think. in many us states it is against the law to build a hospital unless you 'prove' that there's a 'need' for one
decimation: http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/con-certificate-of-need-state-laws.aspx "In 1964, New York became the first state to enact a statute granting the state government power to determine whether there was a need for any new hospital or nursing home before it was approved for construction."
mircea_popescu: the notion of "approved" for construction is foreign to my mental universe.
mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it. ☟︎
decimation: ^ that's highly illegal in nearly all locales in the us
decimation: especially if the plans are unapproved
mircea_popescu: i guess neartly all locales in the us are fortunate i don't give a shiot about building anything there.
decimation: some places in rural bumfuck you can do it though: http://www.sangres.com/colorado/national-forests/sanisabel/bishopcastle.htm
assbot: Bishops Castle ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrOQFL )
TheNewDeal: mp, I've got a talented phocomelus that can man your wizard tower. 5 star techie
decimation: " If you do stop and talk to Jim, you'll discover that the hardest work in the whole project was fending off all kinds of attacks on him and his work coming from the federal government and the National Forest Service: he's on private property but he's surrounded by National Forest and the feds want complete control of everything. In Jim's words: the only thing they haven't done is they haven't shot him, yet."
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal cool!
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mircea_popescu: decimation adding that nonsense to the porcfest nonsense (or was it burning man ?) i'll lol once every house in the us has to have a special bathroom for any visiting cops
mircea_popescu: that the residents may not use
TheNewDeal: that was required by 3rd amendment v2.0
TheNewDeal: must haz cops
decimation: yeah it was burning man when usg agent demanded royal tent serviced by servants
decimation: the powerpoint even demanded that the thing be called 'blue pit'
mircea_popescu: and to think 99% odds are all these shenanigans is because the sexually deprived twerp was trying to get laid with some marginally fuckable middle aged woman.
decimation: he kinda implied he was better than 'little people', does that make him elite?
mircea_popescu: did he say it ?
mircea_popescu: you gotta ask the girl out to be a man. that's the bar. you don't ask, you're not a man. you hint at her you might like to, you're a lesbian trapped in a transsexual's body, not a man.
mircea_popescu: elite works the same way.
decimation: I doubt there was a blank on the permit form that allowed one to declare one's superiority
mircea_popescu: which is why form pushers can never be elite.
mircea_popescu: clerks are clerks.
mircea_popescu: they can hang as elite, sure. a hare can hang as a fox.
mircea_popescu: but it can never BE a fox, while living. nor can these pencilnecks be elite.
decimation: in this sense, the us is like a jealous mob - always keeping one eye out for the unforgivable crime of trying to clamour above the others
mircea_popescu: well, democracy.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen xemist
gribble: I have not seen xemist.
TheNewDeal: an envious lot, I think jealousy goes to far... implies too much work
TheNewDeal: methinks*
mircea_popescu: what's your definition of jealousy ?
TheNewDeal: you know. Seeing pencilneck prick drive a jaguar down the road. Slober at him, then go home and watch tv to forget
mircea_popescu: and envy ?
TheNewDeal: ah shite
mircea_popescu: lol yw.
decimation: ;;dict envy
gribble: wn: envy n 1: a feeling of grudging admiration and desire to have something that is possessed by another [syn: {envy}, {enviousness}] 2: spite and resentment at seeing the success of another (personified as one of the deadly sins) [syn: {envy}, {invidia}] v 1: feel envious towards; admire enviously 2: be envious of; set one's heart on [syn: {envy}, {begrudge}]
TheNewDeal: that was my envious example
decimation: ;;dict jealousy
gribble: wn: jealousy n 1: a feeling of jealous envy (especially of a rival) [syn: {jealousy}, {green-eyed monster}] 2: zealous vigilance; "cherish their official political freedom with fierce jealousy"-Paul Blanshard
TheNewDeal: I was thinking jealous should be the superlative
mircea_popescu: i ask because this is a fine example of english being a pigdin, where dictionaries don't define and nothing means anything specific
TheNewDeal: ;;ud jealous
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jealous | For instance, envious/jealous behavior such as a friend has a nice new car and instead of being truly happy for them you badmouth them or the car or make up ...
mircea_popescu: in sane languaged jealousy is sexual and envy material
mircea_popescu: but apparently that's not widely known in english.
danielpbarron: i thought it was that you're jealous of your own things and envious of other people's things
TheNewDeal: whats that one commandment about neighbor's wives?
mircea_popescu: "make sure they're always pregnant" ?
decimation: ;;dict covet
gribble: wn: covet v 1: wish, long, or crave for (something, especially the property of another person); "She covets her sister's house"
TheNewDeal: covet
phf: covet
TheNewDeal: that's the ticket
phf: ha
mircea_popescu: may be a false friend, it comes from a time when wives were just another kind of chattel.
TheNewDeal: a person's wife is obviously their property. This material vs sexual is getting to intermingled
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mircea_popescu: don't covet another man's fleet of ships, gaggle of cunts or flock of deer.
mircea_popescu: this obviousness doth not follow.
TheNewDeal: have you published an actual 10 commandments yet? We need a v1.0
mircea_popescu: i don't believe in the prescriptive approach.
TheNewDeal: not some fairytale nonsense
TheNewDeal: It can be something cheesy along the lines of the native american 10 commandments http://www.nativevillage.org/Inspiration-/ten_native_american_commandments.htm
assbot: The Ten Native American Commandments ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jLhh )
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this respect
TheNewDeal: like in da Ali G sense
mircea_popescu: http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/04/29/the-ten-commandments-of-liberalism-n1830696
assbot: The Ten Commandments Of Liberalism - John Hawkins - Page 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jKdc )
mircea_popescu: http://www.getfrank.co.nz/editorial/features/the-10-commandments-for-drinking-like-a-man
assbot: The 10 Commandments For Drinking Like a Man ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6jQ4i )
mircea_popescu: check it out - everything on the internet is a list now.
TheNewDeal: truly
mircea_popescu: pretty sad indictment of the intellectual capacity of the people behind it.
TheNewDeal: usians crave buzzfeed and chive, nothing more, nothing less
mircea_popescu: even english lit professors a few decades ago would have laughed this pedestrian bullshit out of class.
decimation: http://spinroot.com/p10/
assbot: The Power of Ten -- Rules for Writing Safety Critical Code ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrQQh7 )
mircea_popescu: "oh, you have no clue about composition so take refuge in the bullet point ? go back to the hoe."
TheNewDeal: 60 lines, what kind of piss-ass function is this? takes that many to clear the registers and program counter
TheNewDeal: update the PC
punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X178JL8Gr2U
assbot: The Notorious B.I.G (Ten Crack Commandments) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GrRawh )
mircea_popescu: " Snapping, clapping, yelling, whistling or just general rudeness to someone waiting on you are a sure sign to anyone in your company that if they spend enough time around you, you’ll eventually treat them with the same selfish nonchalance and disdain that you treat those who are paid to be nice to you."
mircea_popescu: motherfucker.
mircea_popescu: someone "paid to be nice^H^H^H^H be my servant who fucks up his DUTIES is going to be called to task. before a sound beating.
mircea_popescu: and yes, anyone else contemplating the same position'd better get in their skulls that no, they don't get to fuck around on the job.
mircea_popescu: here we sit discussing "elites" in a space that doesn't even know how to keep the servants in line
mircea_popescu: or more importantly, that there IS such a thing as servants, and such a thing as a line for them to keep to.
mircea_popescu: what fucking elite. start by keeping a household.
mircea_popescu: elite comes a century thereafter.
decimation: levelers gotta level
TheNewDeal: it's a land of servants, and the alleged elites are house-negros
mircea_popescu: anyways. off to look for slithy toves.
mircea_popescu: the life i lead...
punkman: do they still make english butlers?
ag3nt_zer0: well I just spent a few hours following that eulora mac guide and last 2 steps yielded this: Install1 /usr/local/eulora/lib/libxdelta3-0.0.a ...failed updating 4 target(s)... ...skipped 8 target(s)... ...updated 15 target(s)... xxxx-Mac-mini:eulora MacMini$ ./euclient -bash: ./euclient: cannot execute binary file
ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing ☟︎
decimation: early yarvin had a point about this: "You are a Catholic. Your parents were Catholics. You were educated by Catholics. You are governed by Catholics. All your friends are Catholics. All the books you've ever read were written by Catholics.
TheNewDeal: just pay someone here to do it
decimation: "How do you convince this guy or gal that the answer to all the world's problems is not "more Catholicism"? How do you say, um, dude, this Trinity thing - the virgin birth - transsubstantiation... ya know...
TheNewDeal: who's those yarvin character?
TheNewDeal: and for the record punkman, the 10 crack commandments shouldn't be grouped with the liberal buzzfeed nonsense, because that's legitmate knowledge passed down by a semi-respectable ruffian
ben_vulpes: more like a jester, retelling stories he heard knights bandying about
ben_vulpes to numb the family-in-law with more booze
decimation: TheNewDeal: it's mencius moldbug: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/04/case-against-democracy-ten-red-pills.html
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: The case against democracy: ten red pills ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6kkrh )
punkman: TheNewDeal: yeah those 10 are not so bad
TheNewDeal: never heard him referred to as yarvin
decimation: it's his real name, curtis yarvin
TheNewDeal: doxxed!
TheNewDeal: I jest
TheNewDeal: decimation I had a friend convice me quite shortly after being confirmed as a Catholic. Just need to be open-minded. Tough for a large majority of sheeple
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: In Romanian is new and first the same word?
williamdunne: ignore me
williamdunne: Trying to work out why a translation is so poor
decimation: TheNewDeal: I have no problem with catholics, but what's not obvious from what I pasted is that moldbug is making a point about being submerged in a particular point of view from birth
decimation: usians know nothing other than rabid egalitarianism
danielpbarron has a problem with catholics
decimation: heh yeah I'm not a fan of the pope and the authority of the church over scripture
TheNewDeal: egalitarianism is the biggest epic fail of usian existence
TheNewDeal: but hey, write it on a few pieces of parchment, print it on the money, and it must be true
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TheNewDeal: I must stfu and catch up on many a log. May be looking to resell part of a bitbet in the near future (approx 1 week from now). Keep that in mind if it sparks your interest
danielpbarron: !up Bingo_bar
Bingo_bar: Oh I wish Zimbabwe were in dixie
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
ag3nt_zer0: http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/Public/articles/The_Destruction_of_the_Christian_Tradition_Part_1-by_Rama_Coomaraswamy.aspx
assbot: "The Destruction of the Christian Tradition (Part 1)" - an essay by Rama Coomaraswamy ... ( http://bit.ly/1HF593L )
TheNewDeal: !down
TheNewDeal: !down TheNewDeal
Bingo_bar: Oh I wish I were in Dixie land to take my stand.
Bingo_bar: To live or die in dixie
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: I wish I were in Dixie
decimation: Bingo_bar: you at stone mountain?
Bingo_bar: Hooray
Bingo_bar: Hooray
decimation: !down Bingo_bar
decimation: !up lolballz
lolballz: bb found the jukebox?
decimation: !up Bingo_bar
Bingo_bar: Niggers, too many here
Bingo_bar: I wish
Bingo_bar: Anyone here loan me a dead bigger for storage
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lolballz: 2@37.5 bb
williamdunne: Is there a sign saying dead nigger storage?
lolballz: rock out
lolballz: with yer cock out
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cryptome.org/2015/07/1-7B-anonymous-comments.htm << lulzy re: 'reddit' et al
assbot: 1.7 billion "anonymous" comments from 5% of the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1HF6O9w )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
lolballz: ziggy played guitar
punkman: I need more disks
punkman: with all the terrabyte sized datasets floating around
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punkman: http://atechdad.com/Deanonymizing-Darknet-Data/
assbot: Deanonymizing Darknet Data · atechdad ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcPlLx )
punkman: (fellow finds GPS coords in images from that darknet dataset linked yesterday)
punkman: !up lolballz
lolballz: u greeks brew nice beer, why are u so broke?
punkman: they export greek beer?
lolballz: yep, not like italian beer made locally
punkman: mediterranean beer is awful
lolballz: we're getting proper peroni now
lolballz: tasmania has some excellent ones, hops barley and water
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punkman: there's the odd small-scale brewery that makes ok beer
lolballz: half the country drinks beer from cazallatown
punkman: but really all spanish/italian/greek beer I've had is almost as bad as heineken or worse
lolballz: i don't mind heineken, i like to know what my armpit smells like tommorrow
lolballz: the hops are unique
lolballz: tazzie blends em
lolballz: well
lolballz: like "single malt"
lolballz: doent mean shit if u can do it
lolballz: *can't
lolballz: fuck a larger tho, gimme an ale
lolballz: and so, i prefer a single malt
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punkman: any of those left that Diageo doesn't own?
lolballz: you want a nice cigar?
punkman: nah
lolballz: just accessible info?
lolballz: yeah id swap everything for a good cigar
lolballz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhqN0KcWAE
assbot: Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HFbhcp )
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decimation: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/09/hitlers-thoughts-on-the-euro/ > "I’m halfway through Look Who’s Back, a book in which Hitler wakes up in 2011 and, homeless and friendless, ... The Reichsmark was no longer legal tender, even though others—probably some clueless dilettantes on the side of the victorious powers—had clearly adapted my plan to turn it into a European-wide currency. At any rate, transactions were now b
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Hitler’s thoughts on the Euro ... ( http://bit.ly/1fcAS4P )
decimation: being carried out in an artificial currency called “euro,” regarded, as one would expect, with a high level of mistrust. I could have told those responsible that this would be the case."
decimation: "“Haven’t you ever been abroad?” “Well, obviously: Poland, France, Hungary . . .” “OK, they’re inside the EU.” “And the Soviet Union.” “You got in there without a passport?” I thought about it for a moment. “I cannot recollect anybody having asked me for one,” I replied confidently."
pete_dushenski: decimation: kinda funny to consider what the man woulda thunk had he been time warped into the present eh.
decimation: heh yeah
pete_dushenski: this quote, of course, being the first of two that greenspun wrote on 'look who's back'
pete_dushenski: the second being the inspiration and provocation for my 'turns out you wanted hitler after all' article
pete_dushenski: i definitely appreciate how prolific phil is. i've been visiting his blog daily the last couple weeks.
decimation: heh awesome, I was just gonna lookup the nazi platform
decimation: you saved me the trouble
pete_dushenski: and added my free commentary whether you wanted it or not !
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205408 << a question that may yet be answered some day. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:33:25; ben_vulpes: i wonder how pete woulda treated the tesla
pete_dushenski: someone in my meatwot is bound to splurge for one, and it'd then just be a matter of time before i snagged some seat time.
decimation: heh this nazi stuff is lulzy, looks much like the modern lefty platform - save the anti-immigrant stuff ☟︎
decimation: which is actually pretty rational if you are gonna make a 'nationalist' welfare state
pete_dushenski: given that i was able to attract a fair few steers of unusual and exciting personally owned autos with my old blog, it should be a cinch with contravex's broader readership as a selling point
pete_dushenski: decimation: the anti-immigration, the free education for gifted only, and the get off your lazy ass elements are the only differences i could really spot
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pete_dushenski: but hey, times change (albeit modestly) and usians are emphatically not teutons
pete_dushenski: not entirely, at least.
decimation: actually, the white part has a significant portion
decimation: but their cultural distinctiveness has long disappeared into germanic surnames
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pete_dushenski: what's 'significant' ? 10% ? 20% ?
decimation: I think more than that, more like 50%
pete_dushenski: even with all the irish, italian, and eastern yurapeans ?
pete_dushenski: seems high.
pete_dushenski: "The ten largest ancestries of American Whites are: German Americans (16.5%), Irish Americans (11.9%), English Americans (9.2%), Italian Americans (5.5%), Mexican Americans (5.4%), French Americans (4%), Polish Americans (3%), Scottish Americans (1.9%), Dutch Americans (1.6%), and Norwegian Americans (1.5%)" << via 2008 census bureau
pete_dushenski: boom. called it ;)
pete_dushenski: "It's still an honorable thing to get a Ph.D. " << bahaha on what planet is this ?
decimation: interesting, I thought it was higher
decimation: I'm sure that the relative portion is higher in certain regions like the midwest
pete_dushenski: "It's not as if the Wiz Schools have killed CS at universities. Not yet, anyway." << mkay then. pass the pipe.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2015#1204995 << #b-a is for adults, not kids. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-07-2015 23:24:38; williamdunne: 00:06:08 - gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: reference material for ben+pete's school for kids who might maybe not suck one day <<< isn't that what #b-a is anyway? At least that's how I'm trying to use it.
pete_dushenski: kids gotta climb the ladder before they can jump off the diving board into the deep end.
pete_dushenski: lift head before sit up, crawl before walk, etc.
decimation: apparently wisconsin, daktoas german ancestry is 'self reported' to be ~40%, roughly 20% through the midwest
decimation: http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/c2kbr-35.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1fcDxeM )
pete_dushenski: where it's cold and the people hardier, basically.
decimation: yes, and that area happened to be where land was cheap when the wave of germans were fleeing derpiness/overcrowding
decimation: actually many in that time period saw the centralization of the prussian mega-state and decided to leave... because there was somewhere to go
pete_dushenski: right. it wasn't the urbanites that were fleeing the old world so much.
pete_dushenski: or if they were urbanites, they weren't died in the wool urbanites
pete_dushenski: like, say, teh jooz
decimation: initially it was poor folk with no other choice, but many in hte 1830-1860 bulge were people of some means who were 'voting with their feet'
decimation: as their ancestral homeland/city-states were steamrolled
pete_dushenski: lol not hard to imagine 2030-2060 usa being similar
decimation: no, but the problem in 'where is the frontier'?
pete_dushenski: that's a point.
pete_dushenski: the number of countries offering free fertile soil to industries immigrants is awfully limited
decimation: really, it was a rare point in history where people of some means had alternatives
pete_dushenski: industrious*
decimation: most people for most time do not
pete_dushenski: well there's always money in the banana stand...
pete_dushenski: by which i mean, there's always south america
pete_dushenski: only 400 mn people currently in the southern half and inhabited by a reasonably conquerable people
pete_dushenski: latin america is certainly a better opportunity than, say, asia, africa, the middle east, or europe for those usians looking for an exit door
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205306 << ahem. -does- no wrong. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:09:47; ben_vulpes: razr did no wrong
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205396 << sop to suck automaker cock and gargle balls in car blogosphere, of which 'autoblog' once ruled the roost (they still might even, but i doubt it, even though i stopped paying attention) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 02:30:18; mircea_popescu: bunch of retarded fucking monkeys. http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/v/19733f9b5da9864601475a8ba7c48a8d3e902be4/img/editors/sebastian-blanco.jpg << this inept fuckwit really thought THAT is what needs to be reported.
pete_dushenski: writing about every little retarded marketing detail is par for the course.
pete_dushenski: this is what passes for "being observant" in an industry where you can't actually criticise the plastic balls of shit you drive every week.
pete_dushenski: lest you, y'know, bite the hand that feeds you.
pete_dushenski: as far as car news sites and writers go, there's literally no other branch of 'journalism' that's so bereft of intellectualism, individualism, and integrity
pete_dushenski: this is very much by design.
pete_dushenski: derps like sebastian get wrung through the gawker-esque grinder for a fraction of the rate of internal marketing staff at an automaker
pete_dushenski: and to largely the same effect, with the added bonus of the illusion of independence to what i can only assume are very slowly-witted readers.
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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205499 << well with that kinda tall shadow being cast onto the street, and that sort of whimsical 'build whatever wherever whenever' attitude, you're just gonna drive a stake through the heart of your pedestrian-friendly utopia, mister ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:02:21; mircea_popescu: ima build a fucking wizard tower on my own land if i feel so inclined, and if anyone doesn't like it ima add cannons to it.
mircea_popescu: yeah i know
mircea_popescu: i'm not ready yet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205598 << eventually there's going to be a binary for macs as well, so check back in a few weeks ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 03:39:46; ag3nt_zer0: so think I am done as I don't know what the hell I am doing
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you're also not alone here. i'd be pleased to offer my urban planning and architectural services to the cause :D
mircea_popescu: hehe l
mircea_popescu: k*
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody will care.
mircea_popescu: there's this very strange delusion where twerps on the internet and beyond imagine someone, somewhere, (important! secret!) gives a shit what they do.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact the various governmenbts don't have enough of a clue to even keep track of the most direct threats to their very existence,
mircea_popescu: let alone random twerp in montana not possessed of enough intelligence to find a mate.
mircea_popescu: and in any case "the right to be forgotten" comes from the same set as "the right to fried chicken". forgetaboutit.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: how went the slithy toves this eve ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205707 << hitler was a national-socialist, the current lefties are international-socialists ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 06:15:38; decimation: heh this nazi stuff is lulzy, looks much like the modern lefty platform - save the anti-immigrant stuff
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski poorly. still none found.
pete_dushenski: hm. tough gig.
mircea_popescu: an' in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/64967f37cc6cd78ef79fd75bc46cdb4b/tumblr_n625ybJIET1t7h3z1o1_1280.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1fSDPZk )
pete_dushenski: re: modern leftist : they're inter-everything, inter-sexual, inter-raced, inter-gendered, all the way to inter-opinionated
pete_dushenski: where 'every opinion is valuable... unless it's mean !'
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pete_dushenski: "As faking a 7 percent figure takes more risk than releasing a lower but real one, China has no motives to forge the data... It is hence groundless to suspect the NBS faked its statistics." << cute.
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assbot: Successfully updated the rating for bitstein from 1 to 2 with note: doing god's work on social media. https://twitter.com/bitstein
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.mircea_popescu.4:e29fd8985f2d0012bbacc5e9ca3f45037fdf14c37bddce4ebf46752b89fa5176
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mircea_popescu from 2 to 4 with note: still the mpex rabbi
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.danielpbarron.2:7da19ed5834cd7e319ea1fc69b27cda70efb9e5c75e8e39dda74af49967f5b88
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pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.jurov.4:9b4b6d115c7e3ae9efa66c174d0b1cb0d980b7fbbf1fccd227565c1a6956c928
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pete_dushenski: should do it for tonight.
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cazalla: ;;later tell bingoboingo cascade or boags?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-07-2015#1205785 <<< riddle me this.. is it women who desire the buttsecks more so than men? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 07:40:30; mircea_popescu: an' in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/64967f37cc6cd78ef79fd75bc46cdb4b/tumblr_n625ybJIET1t7h3z1o1_1280.jpg
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mircea_popescu: womenz don't desire teh buttseks, womenz desire to be hurt by a cool guy. buttseks' means to an end.
mircea_popescu: further study http://41.media.tumblr.com/5717b7cceb4ab697fca7355e63f60faf/tumblr_mzfa0mCnIN1qbgewho1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DmDu61 )
cazalla: can't say i'm too fussed on the idea and both times i was pressured into it and obliged because if i don't, someone else surely will, in it goes
jurov: cazalla: own experience?
cazalla: yeah how else would i know?
cazalla: just to clarify.. i fucked them, not some weird ass pegging shit if you're trying to set me up with some cool meme
jurov: ;;ud ass pegging
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pegging | anal sex reveresed. instead of the man sticking his penis up the womans butt, the woman wears a strap-on and sticks it up the mans butt.
cazalla: jurov, do you remember your first blow job?
jurov: no
cazalla: guess ya sorta derailed my joke then
jurov: dude was not very keen on bj's, went straight for the ass
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shinohai: @ cazalla "not some weird ass pegging shit" < Traps perhaps?
shinohai: Nothing to top off the weekend like a relaxing prostate massage.
shinohai: think of them as hot girls with snipped dinglies.
cazalla: would ya give bailey jay a bit?
jurov: ;;ud bailey jay
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bailey+Jay | Also hotter than most women you'll ever meet. "Hey, did I seriously just catch you fapping to Bailey Jay?" "Hell yeah! No homo." by Bill27 March 31, 2014. 43 1.
shinohai: For say 5 BTC then yeah, I'd turn down the lights and plow that.
shinohai: Slap dat ass with Icy Hot and ride!
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cazalla: shinohai, seems relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjxTrrbjmx0
assbot: Rog on traps - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jozioh )
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cazalla: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
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shinohai: qntra isup 4 me
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mircea_popescu: mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ?
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thestringpuller: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
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Naphex: https://xotika.tv/#/channel99/hotgirlforyou
assbot: XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iamc1x )
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTR] 2007 @ 0.00111 = 2.2278 BTC
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shinohai: woo-hoo @ Naphex \o/
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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 so what's the plan, turning stator into a release ? << Yeah. I believe 'stator' + { eat/dump block, rm testnet & verifyall } should be the 5.4 release unless anything additional is submitted before we can finish testing & bundling release. ☟︎☟︎
punkman: mod6, debug_sanity perhaps?
mod6: As far as testing, so far everything seems to be working ok -- i've fully sync'd 1 stator build, and i've got 2 more full sync's running curretly: one gentoo x86-64 w/glibc & one OpenBSD x86-64 w/glibc
punkman: did anyone try musl yet?
mod6: One of my goals for this week (and I'm running a bit behind) was to create a test matrix for everything that needs to be tested for this forthcoming release. I hope to at least get a start on that here today yet.
shinohai: mod6: is your stator on a pogo?
mod6: <+punkman> mod6, debug_sanity perhaps? << maybe.
mod6: <+punkman> did anyone try musl yet? << yeah, check out ascii's comments from yesterday
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6: is your stator on a pogo? << nope
shinohai: :/
mod6: Haven't had enough spare time to dig into it. Been hectic enough just trying to keep up with all the incoming patches.
shinohai: i havent gotten past stator 0.5.4 w/blockdump
mod6: ascii only has 3 patches post blockdump (eatblock, rm testnet, verifyall)
mod6: not a huge deal. nothing super critical there, just nice-to-have type of ones.
shinohai: ok, then that is just 2, and testnet isn't important ☟︎
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mod6: punkman has his debug_sanity, but I hvane't had a chance to test version two, and it's not a super high priority for me at this very moment.
TomServo: mod6: Was your OpenBSD recipe made public somewhere?
mod6: especially if anyone is helping test or whatever and they need debug_sanity they can just apply the patch to their local codebase.
mod6: same as any of the others: dump/eat block, verifiy all etc.
punkman: I'm gonna do debug_sanity part2 too
mod6: TomServo: it's not my recipe. i'll dig it up
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000118.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] openbsd patch ... ( http://bit.ly/1MhDb4G )
shinohai: I shamefully decided yo put all my crap in a github repo. There is no better way right now for me to organize it all. ☟︎
mod6: punkman: ok cool.
punkman: mod6: any wishes on that front?
mod6: honestly I don't have anything in mind at all.
punkman: I'd really like the debug.log to be parseable, that's the main motivation here
mod6: make something work for you on your end, see if it makes sense, and if it does, perhaps submit the changes.
TomServo: mod6 and Philippe, thanks
mod6: for anything to make it into the next release, the patch must be 100% perfect and apply perfect. if I hvae to do any mental gymnastics or gyrations to apply a patch or whatever, it wont make it in. there's already a large enough scope on this release.
mod6: TomServo: anytime
shinohai: anyone got a arm static binary of stator build?
shinohai: i offer no patches. I control my server 100% with crude shell scripts xD
mthreat: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/18/what-other-currencies-besides-bitcoin-have-experienced-inverse-debasement-basement/
mthreat: "What other currencies besides Bitcoin have experienced inverse debasement? ('basement'?)"
mod6: Anyway, most of the submissions so far have been pretty top notch. We want to encourage people in the WoT to submit patches. If something is submitted but doesn't make it into a release right away, that certainly doesn't mean it won't be pulled in to a later milestone. ☟︎
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mod6: I think it's great. If you've got an idea or something you wanna discuss for submission, this is where that type of discussion happens. Keep it up! :]
mod6: phf: keep an eye out for punkman's debug_sanity-part2 -- or maybe you both can coordinate together so that all three of these patches will play together nicely: debug_sanity-part1-corrected, debug_sanity-part2 and milli timestamps
trinque: shinohai: bashops is bestops!
punkman: I thought of incorporating milli timestamps as an option in part2
ben_vulpes: did someone say bashops?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski find someone who's a shareholder, they can do test drives
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ben_vulpes: <punkman> mod6, debug_sanity perhaps? << i've yet to play around with this one in depth
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punkman: ben_vulpes, doesn't do much
punkman: main attraction is removing the wx crap
mod6: which was nice for sure
mod6: that needed to happen at somepoint.
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: <shinohai> I shamefully decided yo put all my crap in a github repo. There is no better way right now for me to organize it all. << you know that you can have a git repo on disk without ever pushing it to shithub?
ben_vulpes: gotta love these rubyists, centralizing all of the decentralized things. shithub, keybase...
ben_vulpes: i blame davout
ben_vulpes: <punkman> I'd really like the debug.log to be parseable, that's the main motivation here << this is an excellent goal. a+ if you crap out an EBNF to go along with it, instead of some "protocol is in the code" parser script. ☟︎
mod6: i'm gonna throw in debug_sanity-part1-corrected to my next build/sync test, and look at the output/impact of the patch. i should have some more meaningful comments after that.
mod6: doesnt look like that one was generated with -pU either though.
mod6: does stuff like this:
mod6: @@ -45,24 +45,6 @@ Object JSONRPCError(int code, const string& message)
punkman: mod6, -U is the default, not sure how to turn the comments after @@
punkman: (I did -pU, didn't change anything)
punkman: *turn off
ben_vulpes: how does returning an error from a function in bitcoin turn into a line in debug.log?
punkman: printf is redefined as OutputDebugStringF
punkman: which decides whether to write to debug file or print to console
ben_vulpes: unfh okay i get it
punkman: also if you grep for "fprintf(stdout/stderr" you can find some that never go to debug log
ben_vulpes: well this is a whole project, innit.
ben_vulpes: do you have a plan for v2?
punkman: and there's also PrintException, PrintExceptionContinue, error() and more
punkman: I do not have a plan
ben_vulpes: i think i missed the debug sanity feedback threads too.
ben_vulpes: BUT ANYWAYS
mod6: <+punkman> (I did -pU, didn't change anything) << ah ok. git must have stripped that helpful information from the patch. fuck git.
ben_vulpes: so yeah a patch to excise the wx crap is great and wonderful and thank you etc, but i'd like to see it split from changes to logging behavior
mod6: anyway, i'll have to just repatch up everything myself and re-add your changes.
mod6: and then do a `diff -uNr`
ben_vulpes: mod6: does the patch not apply cleanly?
punkman: mod6, what's missing from git output?
mod6: ben_vulpes: the old one did not, because of perhaps something the ML did to the patch; stripping out an empty line at the end of the file.
mod6: <+punkman> mod6, what's missing from git output? << if you used -pU, it doesn't reflect that in the patch
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mod6: diff --git a/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp b/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp
mod6: normally diff will put the flags passed to it into the patch file.
ben_vulpes: but /does it apply cleanly/ ?
mod6: i dunno yet. i haven't tried the new one.
mod6: i want to make it clear that it seems /slightly less readable/ to me because of: @@ -45,24 +45,6 @@ Object JSONRPCError(int code, const string& message) << this type of thing.
punkman: I kinda like that it includes the function name
punkman: I can strip it next time
mod6: i dunno, i guess im just used to the other way.
ben_vulpes: i like it too, but it's probably git stockholm.
punkman: ben_vulpes: git stockholm? what's so bad about git
ben_vulpes: punkman: i live and die by the dvcs, i like it just fine. mod6 hates it for some reason that's unclear to me, so i'm allowing for the possibility that i just have stockholm syndrome.
punkman: btw the sqlite guy has his own versioning system, it's kinda cool http://fossil-scm.org/
assbot: Fossil: Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAtWcO )
ben_vulpes: a shit that looks nifty
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jurov: http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2015/35-visually-stunning-czechslovak-films-that-are-worth-your-time/
assbot: 35 Visually Stunning Czech/Slovak Films That Are Worth Your Time « Taste of Cinema ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ib00WE )
decimation: there was a baker who makes potica at the farmer's market this morning
decimation: I think in Slovakia it's orechovník
jurov: yes
jurov: and its brother makovník, best stuffed by so much poppy seed that it makes you very sleepy ☟︎
decimation: and makes you fail drug tests?
jurov: tests for opiates are unheard of here
jurov: and poppy seed is not addictive, just tasty
decimation: I've heard that this is a common problem in the us
decimation: nearly everyone does drug testing here
decimation: even to work at the corner grocery
jurov: !up hazirafel
trinque: openbsd's upgrade process is surprisingly (and refreshingly) easy
trinque: boot installer kernel -> mash enter -> reboot -> sysmerge
trinque: love it
mod6: my obsd 5.6 full sync is up to block: 189480
trinque: nice
mod6: gentoo nomultilib glibc: 322021
mod6: im workin on that test matrix now.
mod6: i've got 22 scenarios worked up
mod6: well, planned 22 so far.
trinque: nice, I am happy to help with that process
trinque: awaiting orders
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59900 @ 0.0005619 = 33.6578 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: I tried to get stator working on osx 10.6.8 (32-bit macbook1,1)
decimation: boost fails to compile
mod6: cool! thanks. yeah, we're gonna need as much help as we can get testing. and as soon as we have a solid test plan developed, then we'll cut a release candidate for testing.
decimation: I'm going to try to get the macports version
trinque: mod6: I've got an opteron box, pogo, i7, obsd i386, off the top of my head
mod6: We'll be on the R.C. until we're satisfied everything is the way we want it.
mod6: ok great trinque
mod6: i think the arm/pogo stuff is going to be have to be tested separately perhaps.
mod6: i don't/haven't ever setup the buildroot stuff.
mod6: but people could certainly and appreciatedly take this task on for themselfs.
trinque: I've gone through it once, got the turdel served up over telnet
trinque: hm, maybe I can help with that one then
trinque: been wanting to make my pogo do something
mod6: *themselves
trinque: what's called for there? push-button rebuild and deploy of turdel with a newly built bitcoind?
mod6: yeah, i think there will be some further discussion around that. maybe dbp can help head up that side of the testing if he's willing (other than alf) he's probably got the most exp with the thing.
mod6: personally, i'm pretty clueless with the whole thing as of now.
trinque: anyhow, I have weekend cycles and hardware, lemme know what helps
mod6: yeah, there would just be: Scenario: Create static bitcoind via buildroot, tfpt (or whatever??) to device, begin full sync
mod6: or something like that perhaps
trinque nods
mod6: thanks for your offer to help trinque!
trinque: of course
mod6: one other thing I gotta do is update the gentoo-uclibc guide to a new guide for nomultilib glibc, should be fairly easy. then test it on my pos box.
mod6: i'm gonna need another box to test on anyway.
felipelalli: ;;isup qntra.net
gribble: qntra.net is down
trinque: ^imo a news site being ddosed ought to be a matter of pride
trinque: heh
felipelalli: yes!
felipelalli: make a paid backup version, like Trilema
felipelalli: keep both online, but when the free version is being attacked at least you have an alternative ☟︎
felipelalli: or at least a kind of login where you have to sign a challenge with a GPG key L2 > 0 with assbot.
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trinque: felipelalli: were there a gossipd, it'd subsume this whole http mess entirely
trinque: first off, you have the choice of not dealing with people directly, but through any number of.. call 'em "gateway nodes"
trinque: *you being qntra
trinque: second, any node accessing qntra has the option of caching the data and making it available for their own gossipd peers
trinque: throw signatures into the mix and you have a completely unbreakable "website" hosting situation
trinque: the thing utterly needs to exist, and yesterday.
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trinque: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/world/middleeast/saudis-cast-net-for-isis-sympathizers.html << It does appear that the Saudis are quite concerned.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KdKcmp )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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cazalla: ugh this morning.. i step outside and slip on my ass because the decking is covered in frost.. first one this winter, at least the brusselsprouts will enjoy it
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