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asciilifeform: afaik they've a nicely deadlocked gov, too, with a putin prime minister and a usg parliament.
BingoBoingo: I don't see Putin's shift in US-relations as coming too late. US was very committed to blowing its Cold War winnings in Iraq. WTF was Russia to do other than work on the S-400 anti-"Shock and Awe" system and let the US burn treasure on everything else.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i.e. putin is ~exactly rms
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bonus funny re subj -- putin continued selling sovok's plutonium stockpile to washingtonistan all the way to '13 ! ( then -- when stopped in '14 -- got the 'ukrs' fiesta )
BingoBoingo: Well, the KGB eventually did get Putin to do a sorta Make Russia Great Again
asciilifeform: reportedly indeed is, iirc putin still takes vacation there
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other lulz, putin published uncensored copy of molotov-ribbentrop pact .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: outta curiosity, only varanul + other native scum get to be earls, or can e.g. putin buy dukedom ? how about soros ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-02 11:11 mircea_popescu: putin goes to visit school, kids are invited to ask him a question.
mircea_popescu: the idea being, transparently enough, that in pantsuitist alt-reality "putin [as pantsuit defines the term] can
mircea_popescu: everyone gasps, "omfg, THIS is what's burning you ?" and then just as putin starts "well...." the bell rings and class is dismissed.
mircea_popescu: putin goes to visit school, kids are invited to ask him a question. ☟︎
asciilifeform: lately they've been moving back, putin gave'em some phree lands somewhere
asciilifeform: modern-day ru, with putin's 'we will have government without ideology'(tm)(r) is in practice very similar animal.
BingoBoingo: Hence the Putin liked Trump more than Clitler fuss. Distracts from China owning the Senate wholesale.
asciilifeform: ( putin -- decreed that it is to be fixed, we'll see how that goes )
mircea_popescu: then they told him he can be president! and he believed. and... unending http://qntra.net/2015/11/obama-at-asean-money-overwhelms-ideas/ misery, cockpuppet for every passing putin.
mircea_popescu: in other news, reading old logs is something else, my the snr has changed. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#565157 << back in 2014 dorky kids still thought "putin" is how you say "cool". in the intervening years -- they, changed not at all. everything around them... ☝︎
mod6: Someday, I'd like to get the chance to play in a pick-up game with President Putin.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-26#1844688 << nah, he "got arrested" therefore all the http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ are penning pieces in all the usg-"financed" ( ref http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048 ) "mainstream" media throughout all ru neighbours, "putin arrested the head of russian opposition". ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform made wrong raft the wrong way. mine fucking floats. theirs floated so fucking well, putin's cut their heads off.
mircea_popescu: putin doesn't understand how the world works.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 03:16 asciilifeform late evening, listening to elderly ukrs derp on shortwave re horror of their neet chillunz derping on ipnojes; where to read re antennae design; putin.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 16:13 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward'
asciilifeform late evening, listening to elderly ukrs derp on shortwave re horror of their neet chillunz derping on ipnojes; where to read re antennae design; putin. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward' ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's a very deep link between "putin doesn't understand how the world works ; notwithstanding which he stole our election" and "cell (5,7) on your screen".
mircea_popescu: but to be resolved by the group in question, neither i nor putin nor whatever papie mache in washington is going to decide this for them.
mircea_popescu: he could pull a putin, have ivanka president for a cycle, just to bother the democrats.
asciilifeform: iirc d00d is a court jester for putin.
mircea_popescu: this is a bigger problem for putin than anything else.
mircea_popescu: spyked such as in eg http://trilema.com/2011/sa-ne-agitam-putin-pe-tema-notatiei-limbii-romane and etc yes.
phf: Wittes, who happens to be a martial arts aficionado himself, has chided Putin as a âfraudâ and a âphonyâ and is trying to call his bluff by challenging the Russian strongman to a fight in any location where Putin lacks the authority to have him arrested.
phf: i unrelated lulz i googled "putin judo" through an ssh proxy with u.s. ip and the top article is "Is Vladimir Putin a judo fraud? - The Washington Post"
mircea_popescu: it's basically a sort of mini-mit, us equiv of "state assets corp of china", exact implementation of "putin has billions hidden away across the world" except for lizzards.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 10:05 mircea_popescu: (nemtsov, recently assassinated, was, of course, the guy putin beat for to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687959, yeltsin's chosen successor. ah what a great party it'd have been, for teh pantsuits. clinton forever, herdemocracy herp derp... then gore lost to bush, nemtsov lost to putin, nyc lost to gravity, sads sads sads.)
mircea_popescu: http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/08/18/gettyimages-632914834_wide-d8a9d3c24306ed3d1f4309b438991c94c1b85680-s800-c85.jpg << back in january (2017) talking to putin. all that's left is the phone now
a111: Logged on 2017-08-10 10:05 mircea_popescu: (nemtsov, recently assassinated, was, of course, the guy putin beat for to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687959, yeltsin's chosen successor. ah what a great party it'd have been, for teh pantsuits. clinton forever, herdemocracy herp derp... then gore lost to bush, nemtsov lost to putin, nyc lost to gravity, sads sads sads.)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:02 phf: by the time i started figuring out the socioeconomic part of the question it was a year too late (they started tightening the screws some time before putin came to power, which was not so much the beginning but the announcement of the done deal. i remember '99 the situation of a lot of people changed drastically.)
mircea_popescu: (nemtsov, recently assassinated, was, of course, the guy putin beat for to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1687959, yeltsin's chosen successor. ah what a great party it'd have been, for teh pantsuits. clinton forever, herdemocracy herp derp... then gore lost to bush, nemtsov lost to putin, nyc lost to gravity, sads sads sads.) ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/10695204/Paranoia-leads-Vladimir-Putin-to-the-point-of-no-return.html << o dude, there's no news like old news.
mircea_popescu: "oh, we don't know". riight. and putin has problems.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 23:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
mircea_popescu: ~~~PUTIN~~~ is hit by a recession because of his inept policies ; and ~~~PUTIN~~~ is trying to hide the crisis. and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis ☟︎
shinohai: "Putin to expel 75 US Diplomats" lol
phf: by the time i started figuring out the socioeconomic part of the question it was a year too late (they started tightening the screws some time before putin came to power, which was not so much the beginning but the announcement of the done deal. i remember '99 the situation of a lot of people changed drastically.) ☟︎
phf: also in the last two years, as putin became a kind of presidential role model for the midwest, i think it also became a lot more acceptable to come out in support of countries that are not america, so america and its people are seen as having lost the way, etc. it went from "red scare" to "i wish putin was our president" (a phrase i've heard more than once even before the previous election cycle)
sina: its NYT so Putin will be mentioned in everything, but Ukranian intel says they have no firm evidence it was the Ruskis (in the article)...of course it probably was but that's not the bit of the story that's interesting
mircea_popescu: and putin is related to this because russian hackers ?
sina: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/world/europe/ukraine-assassin-russia-putin-amina-okuyeva.html
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo an' lemme guess, some kulak elements, at putin's behest, are intermeddling in the legal attempts to bury the whole thing ? tsk tsk.
mircea_popescu: right. stalin had the right idea -- some remnants even visible under putin.
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt : putin recently proclaimed another $maxint grantolade tranche for 'proper clean ru os and iron' . i dare to predict that it will evaporate without a trace just like the last N times . )
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, washpo aggitating over how trump gave putin "Secret Infoz!"
shinohai: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/28/10/3FAFDA2200000578-0-image-a-63_1493373300468.jpg <<< New way to `rack up` support for Putin?
BingoBoingo: Trump needed contrast to Obama/watches too much television, and needs a pretext to come into friendship with Putin honestly if MWGA is to happen
BingoBoingo: Surely Putin must know of American dog wagging rituals.
CompanionCube: asciilifeform: but putin wouldn't get much more power unlike bush
mircea_popescu: wait, putin bombed his own loyal subjects ? what is he supposed to be, bahamas ?
CompanionCube: why would putin bomb their own place like that
mircea_popescu: hruschev had no idea how to get even with the us. check it out that putin humiliated obama.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 22:55 mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards.
mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's pretty incredible that putin is sitting down for all this provocation.
mircea_popescu: dat "embargo" totally ruined russia and ousted putin.
BingoBoingo: Seriously fucking cultural marxism was THE soviet wunderwaffen. Putin is doing the world a service by trying to disarm it.
mircea_popescu: fucking epic. so - putin asks trump about extending the START, trump says it's a bullshit deal.
asciilifeform: stack trace plox, i lost the frame, which was putin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that's putin.
mircea_popescu: putin influenced teh grab.
BingoBoingo has done some trolling irl, pointing out I'd rather have Putin as president. Wish the Russians would have meddled more
mircea_popescu: i think by now the rootless youth (tm), well advanced post-irony as well as well disenfranchised by "putin's electoral college" don't necessarily mean anything in any particular direction.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the whitehouse.gov is in google for a "readout of call with putin", which then links to /transitionsplash/ which then links to root.
trinque: I had a dream last night where I was in russia at some diplomatic event, and I was drinking with Putin and asked him about the Elbrus
asciilifeform: relatedly, putin sacked 16 generals today.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 18:48 mircea_popescu: anyway, to be fair here : the russians have no interest in waiting ; putin might be uncharacteristically meek, but in general a half dozen us ambassadors starting with the resident in manilla within the next week-10days is perfectly possible. at which point obama actually having the gall to call natl emergency and set aside the transfer of power is not entirely inconceivable. after which the russians WILL sink all the us carr
mircea_popescu: that's the whole comedy, and it's playing again and again and again and again. republic decides us elections ? usg claims putin did it!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "trump is with putin". why, because he gets in the way of the fake news being with china ?
mircea_popescu: the cnn-made alt-"putin" that the us invaded itself by ?
mircea_popescu: (or, in the imperial expression, "putin doesn't understand how the world works".)
mircea_popescu: so is this putin-supported or what ?
mircea_popescu: heh. so bahamas shared his livejournal link with her flame, except putin didn't give a shit so now she's messaging all her friends on instagram about it ?
mircea_popescu: imagine, to go in trying to fight "world problems", to be fucked raw by putin and eventually defeated... by fucking israel.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-19 18:48 mircea_popescu: anyway, to be fair here : the russians have no interest in waiting ; putin might be uncharacteristically meek, but in general a half dozen us ambassadors starting with the resident in manilla within the next week-10days is perfectly possible. at which point obama actually having the gall to call natl emergency and set aside the transfer of power is not entirely inconceivable. after which the russians WILL sink all the us carr
mircea_popescu: practically speaking, the exact equivalent of "putin did wtc"
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/fP5Ce >> 'Trump’s insistence on channeling Putin’s propaganda may reflect a more permanent and creepier mindset that refuses to see Russia as a foe of the West. If the latter, how far will this go — blocking sanctions? Acceding to Russian aggression? The suspicion that Trump is Putin’s lapdog has cast a shadow over his secretary of state nominee, who is distinguished only by his chumminess with Putin.' << t
mircea_popescu: anyway, to be fair here : the russians have no interest in waiting ; putin might be uncharacteristically meek, but in general a half dozen us ambassadors starting with the resident in manilla within the next week-10days is perfectly possible. at which point obama actually having the gall to call natl emergency and set aside the transfer of power is not entirely inconceivable. after which the russians WILL sink all the us carr ☟︎☟︎
phf: putin did it (c) (tm)
mircea_popescu: putin engineered famine!
mircea_popescu: schmucks really came a long way from the 80s. srsly, consumer-mentality based fud "oh noes, i worry about my key! government should come and give me certainties! putin influenced elections! guns kill people!"
mircea_popescu: next i suppose they'll be "teaching the controversy" of whether shit or turd is the correct choice, and we'll continue ignoring them and they'll continue to pretend that we don't matter and their 5% is inexplicable at the same time. without any problem whatsoever in their absent minds, putin doesn't understand how the world works and influences the elections, sure, why not.
mircea_popescu: "shells that were artificially created" takes the cake. it's not just that putin doesn't understand how the world works - it's that the one true socialism is the only NATURAL producer of artefacts
mircea_popescu: harvard will get really, really angry and... what ? birbe putin to invade ?
rg: Putin hacked our voting machines
mircea_popescu: d to a war, but they were dismissed as hysterical, mad, or fools, as is always the way, and as people who worry about Putin, Brexit and Trump are dismissed now. A little thing leads to an unstoppable destruction that could have been prevented if you’d listened and thought a bit."
mircea_popescu: and in random news nobody cares about, the "republic of moldavia", romania's to "northern ireland" elected russian puppet guy president (igor dodon). putin's ridin' high.
trinque: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/putin-applauds-trump-win-and-hails-new-era-of-positive-ties-with-us << He denied allegations of Russian interference in the election, but said “maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.”
Framedragger: (re. putin, can't see how one could disagree there)
mircea_popescu: lol. and what else, putin just didn't understand how the world works ?