BingoBoingo: How are those headlines any different from last February's? (They aren't!)
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't hjappen to be the five pointless, witless susan fowlers at the uni.
mircea_popescu: it's "students". you know, like dependopotamus' "children demand moar cheese"
mircea_popescu: it's pretty incredible that putin is sitting down for all this provocation.
ben_vulpes: how's it so terribly obvious that this is a western nailgun job?
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, us has been sending nothing but ex-cheerleaders/strippers. current one's a certain nikki do anything)
ben_vulpes: so because it happened in the states the states did it?
mircea_popescu: the usg will have to decide if it claims sovereignity or does not.
ben_vulpes: and because high-profile politician, natural causes rule themselves out?
mircea_popescu: how many people do you know who died before 65 suddenly and from unknown causes ?
mircea_popescu: if guy;s a fucking baker with three mortgaqes insurance won't pay out
BingoBoingo: At that age almost alway *known" natural causes
mircea_popescu: anyway. i guess the russkis really want to finish the job with the sino-soviet split.
ben_vulpes: a website can be illegal, dontcha know.
ben_vulpes: preserve hollywood's eroding margins! outlaw basic arithmetic!
mircea_popescu: "illegal" is rapidly becoming a set item with "our democracy" and "human rights" etc to simply denote the current embodiment of racism.
mircea_popescu: "illegal" ie what non-ustards do outside the bezzlewalls.
deedbot: veen voiced for 30 minutes.
veen: greetings republicans
veen: long-time listener, first-time caller
BingoBoingo: Welcome, keep coming back. It works when you work it.
veen: i suppose today ben_vulpes is my honorary daddy, his doings are well-known in these parts
BingoBoingo: Congrats ben_vulpes you've got another mouth to feed
veen: i've been enjoying this little stitch-n-bitch from afar, thought i might indulge in the pick-a-little talk-a-little
veen: the cathedral commenting on milo's downright-clintonian, hair-splitting defense of his pederasty practice:
veen:
http://archive.is/QLSAy << "'Pedophilia is not a sexual attraction to somebody 13 years old who is sexually mature. Pedophilia is attraction to children who have not reached puberty,' [Yiannopoulos] adds, dismissing the fact that 13-year-olds are children.”
mircea_popescu: well, historically pedophilia is a sort of homosexuality. it got a little coopted to mean "children", it really is little boys.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. just like "brits" have no idea what rotterham is all about.
mircea_popescu: libertards' pipedream chiefly consists of this deranged notion that i must seek and obtain his permission to know things. it wasn't on wikipedia therefore it mayn't exist.
veen: mircea_popescu: indeed, and milo understands this. the nyt's obstinate refusal to entertain the distinction is so very quaint
veen: milo, son of mr t., regent of brietbart, premier of getting deleted from twitter, &c, &c
a111: Logged on 2015-07-15 01:53 danielpbarron: mats> NATO would also presumably be happy to sell their enemies ammo for the right price << reminds me of Milo from Catch-22
mircea_popescu: entirely beyond me why there'd be two of these seeing how there's no need for one.
trinque: for all this crowing about "this is who I am", these milo types almost always got diddled as a kid by somebody.
trinque: surely these things are unrelated.
mircea_popescu: well... for all the crowing about "this is who i am", these heterosexual females almopst always got diddled as a kid by somebody also.
trinque: sure, but I'm not asking the guy who lost the race what he thinks acceptable males look like
mircea_popescu: i thought he's discussing what he thinks acceptable female-impersonating malkes look like
mircea_popescu: then again i'm entirely unfamiliar with the no doubt extensive (in 140 byte increments) body of work in question.
trinque: !!v DD3472A1125220A83FDB9923181669D61BE07F317D0813F0561204D105AE9EFB
trinque: ^ gentleman in ben_vulpes' meatwot, smart fella.
trinque: yep, I'll otherwise let ben_vulpes make intros
mircea_popescu: well good you fellows said something, because $next out of my mouth was going to be something along the lines of "hey, since you're so voluble but clearly nontechnical, how about you write something for qntra".
BingoBoingo: Hey, write something for qntra anyway before you go touching tech knobs
mircea_popescu: should be a step in between "hi" and "ok, go write your own v implementation / log bot". "write the news, man" could work as well.
ben_vulpes: runs a tight ship, i'm proud to serve with the man.
mircea_popescu: so what's he, like the business mind in that cascadian outfit of yours ?
BingoBoingo: He prolly does everything while ben_vulpes maeks baby and IRC's
ben_vulpes: clearly you staple them together from human parts one finds at walmart
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: after four years of constant close collaboration we're pretty hot swappable
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> clearly you staple them together from human parts one finds at walmart << You spray a big glob of expanding foam and then gab hammer to smith glob into baby shape
trinque: thought it was that pink slime they use at mcdonalds
BingoBoingo: Pink slime spoils eventually, polyurethane endures. Makes weather resistant baby
mircea_popescu: this discussion is oddly in line with the latest trilema.
ben_vulpes: anyways, the man stands on his own feet.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell veen Please 2 submit a Qntra piece on clozure's connections to the Pizza Pedos
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: going to watch westworld instead of the statham crap anytime soon?
ben_vulpes: a quick skim of something purporting to be a script for ep1 suggests they don't show up in episode one!
mircea_popescu: you don't mean the rail skin bitchy dorks in the texas bar pretending to be "in the wild west" do you ?
hanbot: mircea_popescu would prolly like it better in reverse sequence, but damage's prolly done
mircea_popescu: here's the thing ben_vulpes : that item is contrived, badly, because made by people who have absolutely no life experience beyond the water cooler and no substantial understanding of anything, and i do mean anything, including their own feet.
mircea_popescu: now, to best explain this point, we will look at what lays closest to home. so : the relationship between the "machiavellian" advertising dork and the "professional" ceo woman or w/e she is
mircea_popescu: there's a whole lot of bickering, pointless and evidently there for the needs of inept script writers who "we didn't know how to write for a woman", except thye don't know how to write for powerful people, or ambitious people, or in general people. notwithstanding they maintain delusions of belonging to some/all those categories.
mircea_popescu: this same problem is present throughout. those whores don't work, at all, much like whatever engine your kid will make in two years won't work.
mircea_popescu: what varies is how obvious it is, but at the core, the whole thing is someone's splooge spread out on a napkin pretending to be "an idea". it's not an idea, partly because it doesn't use ink, and partly because those aren't letters.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: oya, those are the worst scenes
ben_vulpes: dunno who'd watch ww for anything other than the rape, titties, and watching the robots suffer through endless reincarnations sort-of remembering things
mircea_popescu: would have helped if they didn't PUT the worst scenes in there at all.
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's like going to a brothel where this petite asian DOES suck your cock on her knees looking up, however the whole place reeks of cabbage stu and there's a naggy old woman always heard in the background.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's an american cultural artifact ca. 2016; let us marvel that the scriptwriters were allowed to ship the scene where ed harris drags blondie into a shed by her hair
mircea_popescu: i kinda went through a whole pile of this in the 80s, tyvm but i didn't think it was very good back then, either.
mircea_popescu: i don't give a shit what half-assed performance dumbass delivers "within the constraints of her education"
ben_vulpes: well see that's your problem, you have standards and a breadth of experience and shit
ben_vulpes: all americans have is this vague conviction that nothing is good, and that some things are less shite than others.
trinque: Trump used a morning visit to the Smithsonian's National Museum of African American History and Culture to offer his condemnation << wahaha, "what group of whiners is this again? oh whatever"
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it drops them. and i am pretty clearly remembering we talking about this in the early days of trb and foundation
mircea_popescu: this pingdom thing is an inadvertent marker for cowboy node
trinque: ping is not already considered a heathen command?
mircea_popescu: it won't actually break with prbnet, mostly because prbnet is not actually run on prb nodes. they just connect to it.
mircea_popescu: sort-of how apple doesn't run osx on whatever servers the ipads connect to.
mircea_popescu: basically sometime in 2014 the fake bitcoin dorks discovered that their "technology" doesn't work, and sort-of split it into "the working part" and "the frontend part". they evolved undesignedly sort-of independetly, now there's a shambling abomination and a writhing horror.
mircea_popescu: at that point, the writhing horror (which you think of as prb) had about 10x as many loc as trb does ; by now it's 100x.
mircea_popescu: the shambling abomination started life as this "optimization" by blue mat that others (esp the ones trying to have shit work, rather than engaged in pure github livejournalry) clung on to. but then it got discontinued
mircea_popescu: so various almost working assemblaged got ad-hoced in its place.
mircea_popescu: the poor situation of the shambling abomination is the deep reason for repeated humiliations delivered recently to blockchain.info for instance.
mircea_popescu: as the "business" (in the sense of pretending to sv vc, that sorty of thing) portion of the larger prb ecosystem is running into a very marked bitcoin winter (recall, bitpay axed most of the crew a year ago), the ramen support for the "tech" side of prb (various mendacious scumbags like luke-jr, assorted imbeciles like taaki or that idiot who emailed the entire customer base the email addresses of the entire customer base, "p
mircea_popescu: hantomcircuit") find it harder and harder to cling on to their pretense actively.
mircea_popescu: ie, we survived summer of forks, wheel turned, now they hafta survive winter of dorks. dun look so well for them, but we see.
mircea_popescu: this is (at least by my lights) the result of running node on vps. interface optimizes the message on the outbound
mircea_popescu: if you recall during the original blackhole debate, this was the argument in favour of "at fault is the broken node code"
veen: BingoBoingo: at which address are qntra submissions accepted?
trinque: lel, was just building teh snip-snippy myself
trinque: we'll see what it does to deedbot
mircea_popescu: trinque should be more interesting to see what it does to mimisbrunnr
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do try the above patch, may actually bring you back above waterline.
trinque: deedbot does lag time to time
trinque: I just keep tabs on it and give it a restart when
mircea_popescu: but he was benchmarking "who hears tx first" and that type of thing
ben_vulpes: heh hadn't gotten to "who hears tx first", that'll need umpteen nodes to do properly unless i misread the situation.
trinque: I wonder if it'd be useful for deedbot to say a txid when sending.
trinque: for other folks to note time until seen
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 22:55 ben_vulpes: blockchain.info falling behind?
mircea_popescu: trinque can't hurt, if it knows its txid at that point
ben_vulpes: neato asciilifeform, i will get this into rotation
ben_vulpes: in re "nobody over there even does anything"?
trinque: seems to me you'd end up closer to miners
ben_vulpes: no but no trinque miners run cutting edge stuff only
mircea_popescu: originally, miner code got split off the main satoshi base sometime in 2011. there was a lot of back and forth between pre-trb prb node code and the node code miners used, but not that much in the past few years.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the alert they're trying to send?
ben_vulpes: idle curiosity, don't let it block important stuffs
ben_vulpes: it should be doable to 'getpeers' from the nodes from which a trb gets a block and then attempt to traverse upstream, no?
ben_vulpes: i don't mind the arcana, it's what a holistic understanding's made of
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 16:54 mircea_popescu: i can't even recall who was in cadsoft prior to sale.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Bastard 0.7 ish node corrected will patch trb nodes at convenient time, tyvm
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1116.56, vol: 8652.47831716 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1079.997, vol: 7554.2308 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1120.1, vol: 29084.22992281 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1060.688547, vol: 8393.38810000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1118.448, vol: 2802.65060397 | Volume-weighted last average: 1105.28471892
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lulzy pieces. they kind of remind me of 1980s items.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> to continue: what portion of cpu time is spent verifying ultimately invalid blocks? <<< yes, yes and yes, altogether a proper STATs module should very much be part of stock trb, and very helpful if it were.
mircea_popescu: this directly links into the "garage chemistry = the fundamental articulation of western world", or, give everyday fellow powerful tools that touch the root of the world.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616286 << hurr durr, nyt & friends still refusing to graduate the You Are Not The World 101 class at the School of Hard Knocks. probably signals the need for special ed, they've been stuck on this entry level subject for years now.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 19:58 asciilifeform: in other lelz, 'The White House repeatedly refused to mention Jews in its Holocaust remembrance, and had the audacity to take offense when the world pointed out the ramifications of Holocaust denial.'
mircea_popescu: apparently one bad usa is africa" track they listened to back in '85 constitutes enough basis to ignore scientific research for these schmucks.
mircea_popescu: btw, check out what altman does with his time. does this look like the job of an engineer or the job of a politruk ?
ben_vulpes: i thought he was a blogger scraped off some other vc firm's shoe
mircea_popescu: who would, upon hitler winning unexpectedly, drop everything he was doing and start "talking to people" ? wernher von braun or joseph goebbels ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes depends who you ask. according to the average 2oish yo "stem" imbecile, he's a role model.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the sheer insanity of this, you know, dork who supposedly "is a ceo" and "we something or the other billions of dollars something or the else other companies corporate business like real men and with suits!!!1" nevertheless has the fucking time to go on campaign trail. and the absence of mind to do it AFTER the election.
trinque: lol, first flynn, now teh 'dangerous faggot'
trinque: left is on the move, people!
trinque: I suppose next they'll egg George W's house
BingoBoingo: 4srs, about time Milo went independent again
BingoBoingo: He started some tech rag "The Kernel" he sold to DailyDot
BingoBoingo: Then he let his politics flag fly. Should have the money to do it.
mircea_popescu: oh and to get back on the qntra topic : that the molested child enjoys the experience is neither shocking nor that uncommon.
BingoBoingo: Still, big media that hates frat-rape is denying victim his lived experience!
mircea_popescu: a good chunk of the "psychological damage" of what's known in the us as "child molestation" and in the rest of the world, both geographically and historically as nothing in particular has to do with the batshit insane reaction of the environment. substantially the EXACT same cause driving psychological damage in "abused children" as used to drive psychological damage in "mentally ill" aka homosexuals. it did get turing to kil
mircea_popescu: hence all the discussions re "fags got their weddings, pedos are next".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and funnily enough they don't CALL IT THAT, either.
BingoBoingo: Well, what can they do without vocabulary?
mircea_popescu: it's not just a case of "it's our democracy when we do it and corruption when russia does it" ; the linguistic shenanigans are at the very core of libertard program. "it's denying victim their living experience when you tell susan j fowler or whatever other coreboot-broad-of-the-day that she's just not very birhgt and didn't work very hard ; but it's nothing when dangerous homosexual etc"
mircea_popescu: at this point it is strictly impossible to distinguish between us "progressive" and a woman that's been locked into a house with preteens for too long and simply snapped and lost her mind.
mircea_popescu: pedo marriage still the norm, go to india, the middle east, wherever.
ben_vulpes: atlantic even did a piece on a victorian child bride recently
trinque: pedo tends to mean quite a bit younger, eh?
danielpbarron: ban divorce and it isn't "pedo marriage" -- she grows up eventually
☟︎ trinque: that's actually the claim dangerous fag guy made which causes teh scandal
danielpbarron: scandal only because it can't be about fertility or else homosexuality is similarly wrong
ben_vulpes: hence the magic number (18!!!) with exceptions (unless you're both under 18! except if we want to try you as an adult!)
ben_vulpes: sad inevitability of governing by numbers.
mircea_popescu: the magic number 18 has a lot more to do with historical extraction. people wanted to get work out of children ; there's a soft spot where the uncastrated animal becomes more trouble than it's worth.
mircea_popescu: since they weren't about to start castrating boys (mostly because the crown wouldn't let them ; otherwise us southerners very much DID, and would again if could) they had to give up on them at some point and let those "indentured" servant "contracts" expire.
mircea_popescu: "how old does he have to be before the risk of punching you out, burning your house and fucking your wife and daughter outweighs whatever useful labour you may extract out of him" is scarcely a cogent basis for discussing how old must be the girl before you can buy her.
danielpbarron: heh so not child abuse but "hey! stop trying to get my farm equipment pregnant!"
mircea_popescu: and generally - the proposition that females mattered at any point in human history, no matter the circumstance or perspective, is laughable.
mircea_popescu: no law was made by women or for women ; no conflict was with women or about women, on it goes. the ancient complaint that "media fails to ~DEPICT~ the struggles of women and the impact of women" is so much charade. history fails to record because reality fails to contain. so media has to fail to depict if it cares to stay sane.
mircea_popescu: and if it doesn't care to stay sane, the result is inevitably crank and tangerine.
trinque: there is a very plain consideration on when pregnancy is going to sap energy otherwise allocated to maturation
trinque: if we're talking about utility
mircea_popescu: this hasn;'t anything to do with it as far as i can see. ironically women are more mature by whatever metric - aware, dependable, etc. in all times and places, broadly speaking.
mircea_popescu: the issue is that women are adaptable, men are not. you understand how this works ?
trinque: sure, men are, then go out and die or not
mircea_popescu: a commonly discussed example is that "everything in us consumer market is kosher, including $random item for exemplification". then there's some o wow, kosher eaters are a fraction of 1% of the whole market.
mircea_popescu: the mechanics is that kosher eaters WILL NOT eat non-kosher ; whereas everyone else will eat whatever.
mircea_popescu: as keeping two sets of $item has significant costs, it is cheaper to just make everything kosher.
mircea_popescu: this is why merely TOLERATING vegetarians is insanity if you like meat. you eating either their soy or a steak while they ONLY eat soy will ENSURE you will not be able to eat meat.
mircea_popescu: so do not simply tolerate a vegetarian. either kick her out or beat her up.
mircea_popescu: yes, yes. you'll find out if it sufficed or not at the other end.
ben_vulpes looks, sees no more vegetarians in his house
mircea_popescu: this is incidentally why "irrational behaviour!! murder!! common graves!!!". because of exactly the above, economics dun care, so the inborn reflex is to overdo and make sure, rather than find out it didn't take on the other end.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes speaking of house, the BEST THING father can do for his daughter, aged 9 to 19, is make sure she has abundant, clean protein available. no meal without salmon, fine beef, shrimp, pump her full of 100g of protein a day.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: yeah. eyebrow only works if it implies "how to deliver punishment"
a111: Logged on 2015-11-08 03:33 asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
ben_vulpes: how do you know this, and also what does it do to boys
mircea_popescu: does the same to boys lol. nutrition is important to kids. and nutrition means meat.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: because of increased protein intake i gather?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im reeling in shock of having been asked to document this.
ben_vulpes: just cutting through decades of nutritive malinformation over here
trinque: well, and find meat without hormones or toxic sludge throughout, go on
mircea_popescu: kids must have abundant food and very little fastcrap.
mircea_popescu has seen this time and again, IN POINT OF FACT, experimentally, throughout his 15 years!!!! of slavekeeping career. "our democracy" western girl shows up, shorter than she could have been and fattier than she should be. switches to sane diet, her fat turns out "resistant" because hey, body used it as burial grounds for all sorts of radioactive waste. eventually it all clears out and her ACTUAL, genotypical body type eme
mircea_popescu: with good cause ; and in a fundamental and unfixable way. "bitch, why didn't you feed me when i was young and needed you to ?"
mircea_popescu has seen this time and again, IN POINT OF FACT, experimentally, throughout his 15 years!!!! of slavekeeping career. "our democracy" western girl shows up, shorter than she could have been and fattier than she should be. switches to sane diet, her fat turns out "resistant" because hey, body used it as burial grounds for all sorts of radioactive waste. eventually it all clears out and her ACTUAL, genotypical body type eme
mircea_popescu: dude wtf apparently my client sends a broken char if the line is overlong.
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mircea_popescu: well phf's thing works becsause phf is a smart cookie, but this is just ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: there's something iffy with that block, i've not yet looked into it.
ben_vulpes: well, the node to which mimisbrunnr's attached.
mircea_popescu: 74 is actually overfull. it might not even verify. 999.968kb
mircea_popescu keeps waiting for one of these "optimized" blocks that finally breaks hell loose.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Stalled out on new blocks after pingpatch 454094 is last new block
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's where I wedged after pingpatch
mircea_popescu: anyway, btc.com is pretty much a bitcoin attacker by this point, at least in my books.
ben_vulpes: that node's not wedged but very far behind.
mircea_popescu: you just happened to get one of these shitted in while looking for something else.
mircea_popescu: the exact process that makes this whole pile so difficult to watch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because it only talks to nodes that are trying to eat that one.
BingoBoingo: More elegant ping solution may be required
BingoBoingo: Clear out the space with a pesticide fogger?
mircea_popescu: if only someone invented selective poison for stupid people.
mircea_popescu: but we're not even at the point where mosquitoes were exterminated, so...
BingoBoingo: My problem of the now is connecting to nodes with a higher blockheight than I
ben_vulpes: node attached to mimisbrunnr is stuck at 454003
ben_vulpes: aye, can't quite see why it'd be stuck there
ben_vulpes: node has only recently begun responding to rpc calls
ben_vulpes: it would be feasible to chart time density of log statements
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aya, the odd thing by my read is that it is responding to rpc calls but hasn't found from whom to get the rest of the blocks
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Stepped away from node and it started catching up again
mircea_popescu: bitch, handle the buffers. let someone who knows what they're doing do the networking for you.
mircea_popescu: but such is the pain that comes with "lalala can't hear you unless you have a prototype", which is the swamp satoshi had the misfortune of being born into.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it is typical of amateur programmers esp of the windows variety to sorely misrepresent the immense bojum networtking is.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 23:35 mircea_popescu: i have nfi why bitcoin would EVEN INCLUDE networking code.
BingoBoingo: Also there may be more bogum from getdata command. Apparently ver greater than 60002 "opts-in" to "enhanced" version
mircea_popescu: and he fails to see the fundamental connection between him supporting "science" and at the same time being postgrad at BOTH of these ?
mircea_popescu: because why, they teach nonsense ? how can he fail to see this ?
mircea_popescu: if it were actual science, the honest to god sort, kvant-science, "you're not smart enough to ride" science, yes it would be at the basis of a country (would it call itself "america" ? why not ?), but it wouldn't be possible for him to pretend what he's pretending.
mircea_popescu: how many mathematician-surgeons did you meet in 1987 moscow ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well america totally is built on that, no argument there.