mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, here's what i can't put to rest : it's not JUST fucking joseph smith, "o i heard them fine folks in rome have this religion thing, ima make one myself out of shit around my log cabin". he's one of the more ridiculous exponents, yes, but he's in no way marginal. not at all. murray rothbard is exactly "oh i heard them folks in paris have a philosophy, ima make one out of old shit in demolished us protest
mircea_popescu: ant churches".
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking country, it's not x or y. this is what america is, this tinkering bs.
mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
mircea_popescu: works a damn sight better when it comes to taking a loud, large british tank and making a marginally acceptable if too late to matter sherman.
mircea_popescu: take say... what, whatever, anything. take mabel dodge luhan, the us clone of anne louise benedicte de bourbon-conde, twpo centuries later.
mircea_popescu: "In 1917 Dodge, her husband, and Elsie Clews Parsons moved to Taos, New Mexico, where she began a literary colony. On the advice of Tony Luhan, a Native American whom she would marry in 1923, she purchased a 12-acre (49,000 m2) property. Luhan set up a teepee in front of her house, drumming each night in an attempt to lure her to him. Although Sterne bought a shotgun with the intention of chasing Luhan off the property, unabl
mircea_popescu: e to use it, he instead took to insulting Dodge. In response, she sent him away, although she supported him financially until the time of their divorce four years later."
mircea_popescu: sounds about right, yes ? except dogs won't read the shit coming out of tepee, new mexico. but otherwise basically the same thing, right ? harvard can be university, just as good as european, neh ?
shinohai: Gracias, mod6
mod6: De nada, shinohai. Thanks for your help!
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683508 << apologies, this is going to take another weekend. the bot wallet service is done, but it occurs to me that it'd be wise to separate the OTP generation from the rest of the services. on one side, a big, complicated wonder of modern computing; on the other, a simple box connected by serial port which can receive OTP requests, generate them, and confirm/ignore OTPs.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 16:47 mircea_popescu: aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down.
mircea_popescu: a well
mircea_popescu: !!key f1maze
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/13E7C7232B391BF17116827F11A456582793120E.asc
mircea_popescu: !!rate f1maze 1 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691547☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 22:09 finitemaz: Hello! To introduce myself... I'm an american structural engineer (if anyone cares about profession) living on the east coast
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FqD8c/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!v EF206D71F581306AF305A2467D8CC872159998289AEB4563B3F9960B59E4EB0B
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated f1maze 1 << http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691547
mircea_popescu: f1maze you can self voice now.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691608 << aka 'junkyard wars'☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mircea_popescu: the whole fucking country, it's not x or y. this is what america is, this tinkering bs.
mircea_popescu: never was anything else.
mircea_popescu: babbage says the same thing, "oh, americans just wanted to know how they could rothbard this item"
asciilifeform: it's == the 'lemme stick the fork in the mains socket' 'creativity' discussed by dutch.
mircea_popescu: managed to confuse the plain absence of a higher cognitive function for a correctly functioning intellect because looked at it in a single case : one where correct function was to stfu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed.
mircea_popescu: i had this pet theory whereby ustards were not born tards, but made tards by the Great Spinster Revolt, "civil rights" and welfare state.
shinohai: \o/
mircea_popescu: but im losing faith in such a notion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you had earlier theory where they never actually managed to grow a culture
mircea_popescu: this is not so much a theory as a fact. they never did.
asciilifeform: imho moar descriptive of the reality on the ground
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: but the cause, what be the cause.
asciilifeform: nobody marvels why, e.g., french guiana, never grew a culture, for some reason.
mircea_popescu: do you understand how fucking small that item is ?
asciilifeform: turns out they're both small. in this sense.
mircea_popescu: the french guyana is 30k sq miles, 1mn pop if that.
mircea_popescu: roughly the size of chicago.
mircea_popescu: hm. look at that. a TENTH of the population of chicago.
f1maze: charlie lee talking bitcoin litecoin on cnbc.. I just spit out my drink on my keyboard
f1maze: he even talked about dogecoin
mircea_popescu: which is cnbc ?
f1maze: some main stream news station
mircea_popescu: oh. i thought for some reason "crypto network" blabla.
f1maze: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxWM6rJV0nk&feature=youtu.be
f1maze: cringeworthy
asciilifeform: who the fuck is charlie lee
shinohai: !!gettrust coblee
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: -1 by 1 connections.
shinohai: ^
asciilifeform: some misc scum ?
shinohai: liteshit
f1maze: Yeah, apparently
asciilifeform: did antonoupolus or whoever was the designated talking muppet, slip in the bath?
shinohai: Sadly, no
mircea_popescu: f1maze look at that, cnbc has no show in top 10 ratings, ditched nielesen in protest. lol.
mircea_popescu: then again... check this shit out, us programming is dominated by "game of thrones", way the fuck ahead of disney and discovery channel. which, amusingly enough, are really competitors now.
mircea_popescu: and who is rachel maddow
f1maze: I think Justin Beiber's brother
mircea_popescu: this is the new tonight show ? really ?!
f1maze: sad
mircea_popescu: other than that, it's "wwe raw"
mircea_popescu: is that where they get the slightly aged strippers and do a sort of ... light daytime drama + staged "fights" ?
f1maze: Pretty sure wwe raw and the white house have their own drama... I remember seeing something recently of potus wrestling someone
mircea_popescu: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/smashing-glass-ceilings-the-women-of-wwe <<< "i can't believe they;'re not white latina chicks code!!!"
mircea_popescu: f1maze pity trump;s no andy kaufman. some female wrestling post that whole "i grab them by the pussy" fail-scandal would have worked ok for ratings i imagine.
f1maze: damn, that's true
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691632 << i actually did that as a small child. i was trying to see if you can charge a battery by connecting it directly to the outlet :o☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 01:41 asciilifeform: it's == the 'lemme stick the fork in the mains socket' 'creativity' discussed by dutch.
mircea_popescu: my parents were very careful to explain the ac/dc differences and so on rather early on.
phf: yeah, that makes sense. they used to do those "flowers & bees" conversations (which are apparently now discouraged in america, because some bees are actually flowers!), but nobody really does the basic mechanics of the environment conversations
asciilifeform: lol my folx did
mircea_popescu: i was a very dangerous child ; pretty much the only defense was making sense.
asciilifeform: aha same
asciilifeform: we made gunpowder etc
mircea_popescu: i believe it's teh correct approach.
phf: asciilifeform senior plotting the downfall of soviet union in his garage, aha, runs in the family
mircea_popescu: of course the downside is you end up with these kids who have no problem growing into slavekeeping adults etc.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform's brother also made various nice things, trotyl, tetryl, etc. but asciilifeform never graduated to this, we left for shitlandia prior )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform flash paper ?
asciilifeform: aha, various
mircea_popescu: flash paper totally worth it.
mircea_popescu: (aka guncotton, ie the item that wasn't there on the "hospital" ship germans sunk)
mircea_popescu: it is, after all, rothbardian human nature for there to be no guncotton on the hospital ship which germans sink.
mircea_popescu: https://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/100-years-ago/germany-sinking-hospital-ships << typical lulz. shannonizer engine entirely unchanged in a century.
asciilifeform: archive.is/GK1wmSU << unsurprisingly eggog
mircea_popescu: too long neh
asciilifeform: hm yea
mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=GK1wmSU << rando spambot, by all accounts.
mircea_popescu: funny, incidentally, how much of non-tmsr irc consists of join/part spam. apparently 80% or os.
asciilifeform: i suspect 99+
f1maze: mpex.ws lol
f1maze: if I'm terrible at trading, Eulora probably isnt the game for me, right? lol
mircea_popescu: f1maze plenty of people play without trading.
mircea_popescu: not really clear what type it's for / not for so far. outside of really not being for the innumerate.
f1maze: Great, will give it a try
f1maze: http://trilema.com/2015/if-you-go-on-a-bitcoin-fork-irrespective-which-scammer-proposes-it-you-will-lose-your-bitcoins/
f1maze: well, I'm glad I came across that
f1maze: scammers everywhere
mod6: ^
f1maze: !!gettrust fluffypony
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
f1maze: not sure how that works
f1maze: figured I'd try anyways
mod6: related, "a bankrupt gang of pompous horse's asses" : http://trilema.com/2017/again-with-the-money-laundering-bullshit/
mircea_popescu: f1maze it tells you how well you know someone.
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust mod6
deedbot: L1: 5, L2: 46 by 26 connections.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's 26 other people could vouch for him if i need them to.
f1maze: How does everyone know eachother so well?
mircea_popescu: many years.
mircea_popescu: and in otehr news, did we do aus dem leben der marionetten ? great film.
f1maze: mod6: even more related I have a meeting with my new tax accountant next week because I was an idiot and brought cold storage online -- did a couple big trades on GDAX (lost big too) a couple months ago. Now I'm nervous
mod6: http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-aus-dem-leben-der-marionetten/
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah but you know, 2011.
mod6: ah, right. all .ro. i used to just translate the stuff. however, it was mentioned in the logs, since im not sure what exactly is being lost in such translations.
mircea_popescu: i was reading the ro review and it came out "better rewrite than translate".
mircea_popescu: this happens a lot sadly.
mod6: I wish I could learn a lang in six weeks.
mircea_popescu: only works after the 12th.
mod6: I suppose for me, the trouble with my german and spanish is usage. i never get to use it, so I tend to lose it :<
mircea_popescu: it's like a volume discount package.
mod6: I learned german first, and that took me about 6mos to a year when i was 11 or 12. then when i was ~18 i learned spanish in like... well pretty quick, 2-3 mos. its easy.
mod6: but again, i never get to use it.
mircea_popescu: espanisho no is difficulto.
mod6: verb conjugation is easy
mod6: german felt like it was way harder.
mircea_popescu: anyway, portuguese and spanish are the lulziest in this vein. at some party i chatted with this girl for a little, and eventually i asked her why does she have such a thick accent ? "because i'm speaking portuguese".
mod6: yeah, they are pretty close huh
mircea_popescu: i was buzzed enough to not have noticed, but i was talking spanish at her and she was talking portuguese back at me
mod6: lol. nice.
mod6: immersion is definately a good way to learn
mircea_popescu: i trust no other.
mircea_popescu: precisely because as you say, then you lose it.
mod6: i've been trying to pick up some russian just from all the damn unicode pasted in here.
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: at least, character to english letter combo transations.
mircea_popescu: russian is easy. Xулы?! Нихуя! Нехуй расхуяривать ! Hахуячено нехуево! Похуйярили! is really all you need.
mod6: hah
phf: хуясе?
mircea_popescu: holy shit im the only source for this on the internets ?
mircea_popescu: ffs.
phf: this version is not bad either "- Хуяссе. Охуели? Нахуя дохуя хуйни нахуярили? Розхуяривайте нахуй. - Нихуя, хули. Захуярено нехуево, нахуя расхуяривать?"
mircea_popescu: ha
mircea_popescu: mod6 the idea being that the russian grammar is so descriptive, an vocabulary isn't really needed. you can express yourself on the strength of grammatical structure and arbitrarily chosen verb + noun.
mod6: heheh, interesting
mod6: I noticed, four different words for 'fucking': ????? ????? ????? ?????????
mod6: bah, irssi fail
mircea_popescu: it's all dicks, huy. just you know, dis-dick-entangle and un-dick-bother and whatnot.
mod6: \u041d\u0430\u0445\u0443\u044f \u0434\u043e\u0445\u0443\u044f \u0445\u0443\u0439\u043d\u0438 \u043d\u0430\u0445\u0443\u044f\u0440\u0438\u043b\u0438
mircea_popescu: actually proper english structuring of mat would be a fine exercise for learning either. though more in the phd level of things.
mod6: my apologies. apparently my thing only does ascii.
mircea_popescu: phf at any rate i have proof! of some cursory russian interest even before meeting alf!
phf: the translation could be "what the hell. you guys lost it? why did you build so much stuff? break it down no matter what. - no way, why? it's not such a bad work, why break it down?"
mircea_popescu: phf no but i mean the FORMAL translation.
phf: err, i started translating before that sentence about "actually proper english..." etc.
mod6: I tell people all the time here that people not even from here speak/write better english than we do.
mircea_popescu: "what the dick, are you dicked ? why the dickendicking! disdick the dick! dicks dick! dicker dick, why dick with it ?"
mod6: It's crazy. I'm guilty of this as well. My spelling is horrid.
phf: i'm not even sure how i would approach above sentence if i was trying to fully relay the nuance and the ambiguity
mircea_popescu: phf and not using any word ROOT that's not you know, dick.
mod6: /topic what the dick, are you dicked ? why the dickendicking! disdick the dick! dicks dick! dicker dick, why dick with it ?
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: dicker dick, why dick with it? dick.
mircea_popescu: i think "dick" makes, phonetically, a better huy than cock or anything else. has a nice ring to it.
mod6: it kinda rolls off easier 'eh
phf: dick dick dick dick dick dick dick - how many dicks was that? - alot
mircea_popescu: course it makes anyone attempting to use it orally sound like a pail full of bearing balls, but hey.
mod6: phf: lol
mircea_popescu: reservoir dogs was like teh weakest of the lot.
mod6: you didn't like?!
mircea_popescu: i liked, sure. but the others seemed better.
mircea_popescu: even the explanation of what madonna's "like a virgin" means seemed outta place.
mod6: Harvey Keitel was great in that
mircea_popescu: true. possibly his best role.
mod6: yeah, the madonna scene seems a bit forced or something.
mircea_popescu: and tha tschmuck, what's his name. the fat kid, "son of boss" whatever. he's a terrible actor and drags the whole thing down.
mod6: oh Chris.. something or other
mircea_popescu: chris penn ya
mod6: ya
mod6: thats it
mircea_popescu: he's for rom coms and "true to life" films about hackers / stock exchange brokers / etc plox.
mircea_popescu: but, yes, not terrible. you wanna see terrible, watch poolhall junkies.
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/dH0WR/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: got chazz palminteri AND christopher walken, and plays like the 3rd placed highschool media lab production for 1986.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/qntra-s-qntr-july-2017-report/ << Qntra - Qntra (S.QNTR) July 2017 Report
deedbot: accepted: 1
mod6: i'll have to checkout poolhall junkies
phf: i think i watched it on trilema review, ended up skipping through mostly
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is that where they get the slightly aged strippers and do a sort of ... light daytime drama + staged "fights" ? << Yeah, then smackdown's the one they painted blue
mircea_popescu: oh i wrote it ?
mircea_popescu: ah yes, because of the whole stakhanovism bs
BingoBoingo: <mod6> but again, i never get to use it. << Get a lumber yard gig
mircea_popescu: i expect nothing but spanish spoken huh
mod6: yeah, i've got some friends who learned/speak spanish now because of their co-workers.
mod6: but it's generally a weird spanglish mix
BingoBoingo: Nah, lots of English spoken by hobbyists who "just want to" and maintenance folk.
mod6: ah
BingoBoingo: Good builders speak spanish
BingoBoingo: Most spanish speakers will speak a weird spanglish to Gringos, until you make them stop and speak spanish
BingoBoingo: You pick up a lot of vocabulary with "Como se dice"
BingoBoingo: And pointing
mircea_popescu: "como se dice follar ?" "no se dice. se hace."
BingoBoingo: <mod6> oh Chris.. something or other << Chris Farley
mod6: na, Chris Penn, MP has it.
mod6: I just couldn't remember
BingoBoingo: Ah
mircea_popescu: his brother was pretty hot in that newman way, cca 1980.
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is mega roided up
mircea_popescu: myeah
mod6: he was married to Madonna for a while 'eh?
mod6: shit, 30+ years ago iirc
BingoBoingo: In his current straight to netflix gig's he's been Stalone in the 1970's and Arnold in the early 80's type 8-4% bodyfat sorta cut, but that mass dun impress on screen no more
mircea_popescu: was he ?
BingoBoingo: Now was, is now.
mircea_popescu: honestly i thought madonna was married to a horse.
mircea_popescu: a female horse.
BingoBoingo: Before was a sorta paul newman/tom cruise but with horse face
BingoBoingo: Now Sean Penn is low rent action figure with OLD sarah jessica parker horse face
phf: i sort of assumed that chris penn and jonah hill is the same person. there was probably one in the 60-70s also
mircea_popescu: o yeah, what ever became of that "talented" shithead ?
BingoBoingo: !!up fromdeedbot
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: somehow these people don't seem to observe the contradiction between "talented" and "15 minutes of fauxfame"
BingoBoingo: fromdeedbot: WHo is your daddy, and what does he do?
fromdeedbot: It's not a tumor!
BingoBoingo: It is a tumor
mircea_popescu: wait, wut ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Age testing the n00bs
mircea_popescu: phf i had to google this hill dood, and i still don't know who he is.
mod6: he was in a movie 'superbad', among some others.
mircea_popescu: uncredited in walk hard. mmkay ?
mod6: Emma Stone was the main attraction in Superbad.
mircea_popescu: imdb lists 60 credits and he's not been in anything. da fuck.
mircea_popescu: mod6 is emma stone the pubescent chick from that franchise with the schoolhouse "wizards" and whatnot ?
mod6: dunno /me looks
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hill's in pantsuit propaganda flicks, aka post humor stoner comedies
mircea_popescu: "post humour" ie cancerous faggotry ? mmmmmkay.
mod6: mircea_popescu: maybe you're thinking of "Jennifer Stone" ?
BingoBoingo: yeah
mod6: Wizards of Waverly Place or some shit
BingoBoingo: The fanfic thing, it's an emma
mod6: ah, hmm. dunno.
mod6: Anyway /me likes redheads :]
mircea_popescu: whisper in my ear clarifies i was thinking of one emma watson.
phf: i saw him in the horrible wolf of wall street and then later in war dogs. both are millennial updates of greater movies, later one being a take on "lord of war". he basically plays the same character, young annoying and smug jew who gets what he wants on chutzpah, until he doesn't.
mod6: ahh, emma watson ya. from the wizard thing, gotcha.
mod6: phf: lol
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, the libertards are exactly so described. they dare do the whole trilema rewrite thing, except their results aren't "the original improved, because closer to mp". their results are "the original, destroyed".
mircea_popescu: chutzpah is not for schmucks!
BingoBoingo: In other chutzpah https://archive.is/popJa
phf: there's nothing good about any of this. i thought scorsese would know better, but there's no defense against old age
mircea_popescu: phf and fucking anthony hopkins! wasting his time with the inane netflix crap! and ...
mircea_popescu: well hgonestly, all of them. pacino doing bullshit incomprehensible, they all drank dumbweed.
BingoBoingo: *smoked dumbweed
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, was that nigger in the trilema sense ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Everyone in that story, yes
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: And the visual spectrum sense too
mircea_popescu goes back to bergman.
phf: dead directors won't have a chance to disappoint, there's a joke there somewhere about ex wives
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478505 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1302 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2871.0, vol: 10949.50050683 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2871.7, vol: 26690.41450288 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2878.830513, vol: 8754.72170000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2900.327, vol: 7988.46455973 | Volume-weighted last average: 2876.91203784
mircea_popescu: !!up guest846723
deedbot: guest846723 voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: guest846723 did you want to say something ?
BingoBoingo: Ouija board https://archive.is/rb43A
jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
jurov: BingoBoingo: how could 2626+260 == 3993 ????
jurov: you wrote the report sober or sth?
jurov: oh the morning broke, i get it
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691879 <<< Yes jurov, it appears it was on mpex side .... sorry for the inconvenience.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 07:24 jurov: shinohai: it looks it's now OK?
shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
mod6: ahh, haha. they filmed that movie at some arenas I used to play in all the time.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << o noes! but there was SUCH DEMAND FOR BIGGER BLOCKS!!!!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2687.98, vol: 12214.37393640 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2681.5, vol: 41319.17544442 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2687.944289, vol: 22935.96470000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2694.996, vol: 12455.5303363 | Volume-weighted last average: 2685.94256135
mircea_popescu: i guess the "everyone blathering about bitcoin was wrong, #trilema was right" articles are mysteriously not going to get published by bitcoin.com, coinbase.fakenews and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what i'm basing this wild notion on, really. i mean they're all truthful, useful and sane news venues, rite.
mircea_popescu: and in other "blockchain world" lulz, http://imgur.com/ebLrV7X
mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
mircea_popescu: not like bruce dickinson is taking out google ads on "justin bieber" search strings, is he now.
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which! http://ironmaiden.com/whatdoesthisbuttondo/
mircea_popescu: "oh anglotards have no male role models". well i wonder why the fuck that is ? maybe they're not born, yes ? somehow birth proportions changed because tiresome old spinsters say so. totally not because, to pick a random example, that the same trite old spinsters purported to give "bring your daugther to the slaughter" a "golden raspberry" for "worst original song" in 89, before being rescued by iron maiden into topping the ch
mircea_popescu: arts.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, the oppinions of stupid old women matter ever so muchly! let's pay attention to what they have to say!
mircea_popescu passes in loud silence over that case where sharon rachel "dumb whore" osbourne got so pissed off dickinson mocked her "talent" (reality tv) that she got her shithead of a husband to try and sabotage iron maiden's performance.
mircea_popescu: totally not a case of tiresome old spinsters being ever-so aggressed at nobody giving a shit about their dumb selves.
mircea_popescu: !!up Unique_one
deedbot: Unique_one voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: o.O
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << ty for writing this up danielpbarron. I'll surely be leveraging this in round 2 of my general Gentoo quest even☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/xFaNd/?raw=true
deedbot: accepted: 1
BingoBoingo: jurov: ty, forgot to edit my line in the copypasta process that is report assembly. http://qntra.net/wp-wordcount.php
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691729 << 1 of the few imho entertaining uses for toypads is the language gamez☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:41 mircea_popescu: only works after the 12th.
asciilifeform: you can do hungarian or something else 'martian' that would never otherwise get to.
mircea_popescu: what's a toypad ?
asciilifeform: crapple etc
mircea_popescu: i never saw that to usefully work.
asciilifeform: depends on what is usefully
mircea_popescu: yes, it does.
asciilifeform: they used to have these for msdos too
asciilifeform: (language gamez)
asciilifeform: pretty low tech
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, finding a native hungarian speaker is generally as easy as visiting the closest bordello.
asciilifeform: rly? in cr?
mircea_popescu: in a civilised country!
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: imo fine criterion for "am i living in civilised country".
asciilifeform: anyway 'translate this' gamez don't beat harem method, noshit.jpg. but they beat learning by reading spam, which is how i did, e.g., ro
mircea_popescu: "usefully" above meant "acquiring a capacity of expression not heretofore had".
asciilifeform: expression not so much. readonly is attainable.
mircea_popescu: ie, it's not "when i can sort-of mangle my english statements of my thoughts into pashtun", but when "i came up with this perfectly pashtun form of what i was thinking i have nfi how to put in english".
asciilifeform: well yes
asciilifeform: that'd be 'fluency'
mircea_popescu: fluency is when one can interact with native speaker for some definite, common task without having to ask for breaks.
mircea_popescu: the equivalent of "no need for flow control" in tcp/ip say
mircea_popescu: much lower bar.
asciilifeform: i think of 'fluency' as when i can translate poem
mircea_popescu: that is poemy not fluency.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, it is much higher bar than the above defined "usefully".
trinque: I've only been using the tappyputer for flash card, pretty narrow part of "learn language"
trinque: *cards
mircea_popescu: much like eating your own cum is less disgusting than faire dinette.
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun think comp is practical for any other level
mircea_popescu: in fairness, when i was about 4 or 5 or so my parents wrote various pghone numbers of interest (such as my grandmother) on pieces of paper and afixed them about eye height around the house.
mircea_popescu: for a few months i had to run and check, but eventually brain was "fuck this shit, im learning it".
asciilifeform was shown once and learned...
mircea_popescu: imo the only real use of the flash card : make it moderately motor inconvenient to check. then you'll learn
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu must have had many many relatives
mircea_popescu: it's how i learned all the physics constants say, "fuck me if i have to check one more fucking time!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, just zero inclination to memorize anything.
mircea_popescu: even today, if i'm trying to reference a girl it's 50% gonna be "you know, that one, with the hair". literally. then the girls have to sort out if i mean jodie foster or that chick we fucked once three months ago.
asciilifeform: folx who are too easily persuaded to memorize, come to nogood
mircea_popescu: everyone comes to nogood, and especially folks who are persuaded.
asciilifeform: ( betcha everyone knows some )
trinque: they become accountants or w/e
trinque: terrible folks
asciilifeform: trinque: what do accountants memorize ?
trinque: tax law
trinque: at least in hell
mircea_popescu: the account plan.
asciilifeform: i was thinking constant 'e'
mircea_popescu: do you know the us account plan asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: what's 322117 ?
asciilifeform: can't say that i do !
mircea_popescu: so yeah.
asciilifeform: IANAA
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
mircea_popescu: also, the CAEN or however you call the job numbers.
mircea_popescu: also etc.
asciilifeform hangs head, realizing that he has maybe two dozen rfc's memorized..
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2723.11, vol: 13318.13117936 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2725.4, vol: 44647.74211786 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2724.868511, vol: 23512.37310000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2724.87231206
mircea_popescu: ha-HA!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691747 << this almost suffices to qualify as crane operator!111☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 03:46 mircea_popescu: russian is easy. Xулы?! Нихуя! Нехуй расхуяривать ! Hахуячено нехуево! Похуйярили! is really all you need.
mircea_popescu: ikr!
asciilifeform: and in fact is how asciilifeform's father addressed subordinates
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ( to productive result )
asciilifeform: and no it dun translate, ends up soup
asciilifeform: because the necessary ~structure~ ain't there in monkeylang
asciilifeform: ( and some ~excess~ structure - e.g. inflexible word order - interferes )
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: ro dun suffer from these problems, so mircea_popescu knows how this worx.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:35 shinohai: heya mod6 .... thought of you earlier, Mighty Ducks was on netflix
asciilifeform: !#s brock pierce
a111: 73 results for "brock pierce", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brock%20pierce
asciilifeform: ^ subj
BingoBoingo: What about the one with Pedo and Sinbad?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691885 << this is lulzier considering that, iirc, the fork d00dz also monkeyed with the difficulty equation☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 14:18 shinohai: "Bitcoin Cash fork has still not mined a >1mb block and is now 8 blocks behind the Bitcoin blockchain." <<<lmao
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ix2R1/?raw=true
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-31#1691587 << i nearly missed this spiffy piece☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-31 23:49 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/gentoo-eulora-quest/ << Daniel P. Barron - Gentoo Eulora Quest
asciilifeform: afaik this recipe would not have helped hanbot: iirc in that case the machine would not even boot the installer ( and afaik no one ever found why )
asciilifeform: the other thing that reading this reminded me of, is that probably tmsr gentoo mirror is inevitable
asciilifeform: i have a collection of tarballs, and turning'em into a mirror is on the conveyor.
asciilifeform: ( circa - mostly - 2011 )
trinque: without proposing some hardware, no noob is gonna get the thing to work.
trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
asciilifeform: trinque: looks like danielpbarron offered to sell some elementary hardware
asciilifeform: ( presumably he has a warehouse of such )
asciilifeform: whilesupplieslast.
trinque: neato
shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
asciilifeform: shinohai: they did the cheapo sybils thing last yr also
asciilifeform: costs about what a loaf of bread does
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-fails-to-mine-block-in-four-hours-and-counting-exchange-rate-low/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Fails To Mine Block In Four Hours And Counting, Exchange Rate Low
shinohai: Complete with handy script to spin up hundreds of docker instances in batch iirc
asciilifeform: ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it
mircea_popescu: trinque> afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders. <<< yes, which is why the way danielpbarron packaged the deal is so intelligent.
mircea_popescu: basically, he's ~= RHEL by his lone self.
asciilifeform: iirc he has a crate of pogos also. could sell these as well gentooated.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ what even means to have an 'exchange rate' for a shitcoin where nobody can mine a block ? how do you MOVE it << Comments section is for the lulling about their insufficiency
mircea_popescu: my crate of pogos lol.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand, d00d! IT WAS FOR THE MASSES! THE DEMAND! PENT UP!
asciilifeform: i suspect the pogos would fetch moar moolah if there were yet a gentoo for it
mircea_popescu: i don't think niggers & pantsuits got so badly humiliated by anything in history. bitcoin rocks lol.
asciilifeform: but should not take much sweat to cook one, use my recipe
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda the idea.
asciilifeform: ( the kernel bringup is the fiddly bit, and i got it going nice an' smooth )
asciilifeform: i also have a port for that other pogo-like thing, whose name escapes me at the present moment, 4 core beast, fiddybux or so
shinohai: asciilifeform: You had recipe to gentoo-ize the pogo?
asciilifeform: shinohai: linuxize
shinohai: I think I spoke breifly w/ danielpbarron abt it
asciilifeform: the gentoo userland is separate puzzle
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-02#1475150 << thread.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-02 15:29 deedbot: [Loper OS] Terraforming the “MyCloud Mini” : TTY. - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1644
asciilifeform: ( re the pogolike box )
asciilifeform: i found it when searching for year+ for suitable (GB/s nic, inexpensive) pogolikes
asciilifeform: this one had a little bonus feature : clock battery
asciilifeform: today there are probably other , similar boxes on the market, it's been >year since i bothered to look
asciilifeform: i'd really prefer one with NEITHER x86 nor arm ( say, superH ) but can't have everything.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691896 << iirc we saw one of these last yr☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 15:40 mircea_popescu: by the time they gotta try and farm cred by advertising on my fucking name, i would expect even the dumbest of the dumb in the crowd could perhaps figure out who's who and what's what.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692001 << this is worth coming back to : it is 1 of the reason why linuxbios was useful☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:31 trinque: afaik the sticking points are drivers and bootloaders.
asciilifeform: guaranteed boot into usefully-interactive thing
asciilifeform: ( lilo etc in rom )
asciilifeform: so you could actually diagnose wtf is happening on, e.g., that box where it wouldn't read the cd
asciilifeform: recent boxes have big enough roms to stuff entire kernel in
asciilifeform: which has other advantages.
asciilifeform: ( 'recent' being past decade or so )
asciilifeform: many old boxes that took lpc rom can be upgraded to bigger one, i will also note.
asciilifeform: in some cases up to 8MB!
asciilifeform: ( quite enough for any sane kernel of whatever type )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692006 << since when do these derps list alts on same www as actual btc ?!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:33 shinohai: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=Bitcoin+ABC <<< ah, the good 'ol "Let's spin up 5k Amazon nodes to soical-engineer peeps into thinking we are popular" trick.
asciilifeform: ( i suppose -- 'since nao' )
mircea_popescu: since forever afaik
mircea_popescu: haven't they been listing eg prb ever since ?
asciilifeform: prb wasn't truforked yet
asciilifeform: ( afaik still not )
mircea_popescu: still not bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
asciilifeform: was in the sense that it grudgingly ate same blox
asciilifeform: ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats.
mircea_popescu: so then.
asciilifeform: a rewind of the softfork nonsense would send prb to pluto
asciilifeform: !!up p0nziph0ne
deedbot: p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: ...srsly?
p0nziph0ne: ?
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron unfortunately won't work : nsf co uses dynamic dns and thing won't even load correctly if requested by today's ip ( that's how they send ddos to hell on the cheap, long before there was shitflare etc )
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
p0nziph0ne: i am glad i have found this channel
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-24#1573247 << see thread.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-24 23:49 pete_dushenski: i keep getting forwarded to www.www.loper-os.org lol. wondering if i muntzed the /etc/hosts file or what.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
p0nziph0ne: like your discussions
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: introduce yourself ? who are you? what brought you here
p0nziph0ne: my journey started at april this year
p0nziph0ne: where it all began with monero
p0nziph0ne: i read "when you care about privacy have a look at monero" in linux reddit
p0nziph0ne: what i found out then was mindblowing
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what did you find out ?
asciilifeform: !#s monero
a111: 226 results for "monero", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=monero
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the no static ip thing is starting to be a problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the main problem of that hoster.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mirror it on phuctor server ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i get total ddosproofness ( tested empirically ) with five-nines uptime.
asciilifeform: for literally 1$ or so per mo
asciilifeform: ( varies on load )
mircea_popescu: what difference does it make what dust it costs.
asciilifeform: the difference that if i moved it literally ANYWHERE it would cost thousands/mo to get same performance
p0nziph0ne: we are living in a world controlled by a few, to work in a slavery for hunting numbers and papers they call it dollar and euro
asciilifeform: esp the part where i never have to fiddle with it at all.
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne it's altogether dubious you do any work. so it's really win-win.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's he mirroring anyway, a package ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nah, it was his list of wwws for hosts table
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-style
mircea_popescu: ah
asciilifeform: i dun have anything vital packagewise there. strictly civilian bl0g
mircea_popescu: since deedbot reads its rss anyway, i suppose the altenrate route is to go through archive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how did they say this in soviet, "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, long live the socialist republic" ?
asciilifeform: approx
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i like my work, its not hard for me at all, tbh i am bored its too easy atm, so i put more time into reading and finding interesting channels like this one
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is interesting when these folx show up, you can almost ~smell~ reddit
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/why-god-has-died/ << Trilema - Why god has died.
mircea_popescu: ^ perhaps of interest to his worship danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne but what do you do ?
p0nziph0ne: i work in the IT for more than 10 yrs
p0nziph0ne: i had a steady learning curve
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: what do you DO ?
asciilifeform: as in, with own hands
p0nziph0ne: looking for possibilities to grow my knowledge and learn from others
asciilifeform: that is not a DO
mircea_popescu: this is going well.
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: and in today's "best of pantsuit poetry, all glory to ourdemocracy", http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/gems/a-new-temperance-poem-in-memory-of-my-departed-parents
asciilifeform: 'Whereas if he couldn’t get Whisky, Rum, or Brandy, / He wouldn’t do his work so handy' << lolgold
mircea_popescu: "Therefore, in that respect let strong drink be abolished in time, And that will cause a great decrease in crime." right in line with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686100 , bridge over the centuries☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 19:00 ag3nt_zer0: trinque no just worried about getting them out at august first
p0nziph0ne: asciilifeform: but learning is a doing for me, or i might not get your question yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guns kill people, rum robs people, you know how it is.
asciilifeform: p0nziph0ne: q was, what is it they paid you for
asciilifeform: for DOING
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne earlier you put forth this proposition that someone is enslaving you and so on. the only problem with this view is whether you actually do anything that's worth stealing. it's perfectly possible you just sit at home all day and eat the govt's dole.
asciilifeform: digging cable trenches? crapping our perl ? what.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... though i can see what mircea_popescu means. prb would not, iirc, eat a highS block. and several other types that trb happily eats. << PRB will eat high S when in block. Will fail to propagate high S until mined.
mircea_popescu: hm, actually i think bb has it.
asciilifeform: iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N)
asciilifeform: i'ma check when i get home to the torture room.
mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
ag3nt_zer0: hi all... who or what is that a111?
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 log bot.
ag3nt_zer0: just grabbing randoms?
mircea_popescu: hm ?
ag3nt_zer0: oh, no ok
ag3nt_zer0: i see you were referencing
mircea_popescu: it reads out log lines when someone references the log it keeps. kinda how log bots work here.
trinque: mircea_popescu: you latest article demolishes my lingering notion that the grease spot left where a god was killed can be called the same thing as him. or http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-31#1594911☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:43 mircea_popescu: in any case, no, the clay colossi are all that - machinery, golums.
mircea_popescu: the advantage of mythical time (which is what's involved whenever gods are discussed) is that you can flow it backwards as well as forwards.
p0nziph0ne: mircea_popescu: i am pretty free in what i am doing, i may choose the topics by myself, its a comfortable position because i always look out for optimizations whether its automation or security as a benefit for all, employees, company/customers and of course through automation less workload for me
mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne i see.
p0nziph0ne: i do not feel enslaved personal, but the system makes lot of people to money slaves, loosing its value daily
mircea_popescu: let no one say psychotropics do not inspire creativity in sensitive people!
mircea_popescu: p0nziph0ne so what's thje problem with a bunch of tards being slaves ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc it wouldn't eat it if in block # > N (for some N) << No tienen bolludos por eso
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692127 >> http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=makefiles&%21v=0.10.0#1688☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:26 mircea_popescu: iirc they didn't have the gumption to actually change verification code.
asciilifeform: ( seems to confirm my iirc )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cojones.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform block version.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: DER is encoding standard for signature, nothing about S
BingoBoingo: DER stops the Gox "drop zeros"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: cojones doesn't have the implication about size
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bolludo from balls, argentine slang.
asciilifeform believes
mircea_popescu: anyway, without discussing all the rest of the matter : asciilifeform should a high-S block be included with version <3 that if would pass.
asciilifeform: only if top 750 blox are <3
asciilifeform: otherwise rejects.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> expression not so much. readonly is attainable. << Way to make jump seems to be read a book, listen to speakers, interject, keep interjecting until you can swim in conversation
asciilifeform: ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/chainparams.cpp?v=0.10.0#0119 , http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=0.10.0#2655 see also . )
asciilifeform: this was the latest prb handily indexed by jurov . possibly different logic in moar recents.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so at most prb goes away for a week.
mircea_popescu: big whoop.
asciilifeform: i didn't say it was a bigger woop.
asciilifeform: but that mircea_popescu was actually right in 'prb != bitcoin' strictly.
mircea_popescu: right. but i wouldn't say this qualifies as any sort of check.
asciilifeform: it can be wedged apart with a relatively compact crowbar.
mircea_popescu: but yes, prb is an amateurish attempt at a non-compliant bitcoin node.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the real forkgold is in the ecc routines.
asciilifeform: which are a fairly heavy chunk of voodoo, i've been slowly chewing through.
mircea_popescu: with all sorts of silly/quirky/potentially dangerous misbehaviours, neither defined nor ennumerated, yet irresponsibly baked in. because monkeys loive to code, can't read code.
mircea_popescu: like in that joke with the soviet policemen.
asciilifeform: ( both openssl turd and the moar recent prb-proprietary one )
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/aiYBv << The DER tests, nothing about which S, which S wank came later https://archive.is/aiYBv
asciilifeform: interestingly there does not, by all indications, exist anywhere anything like a sane implementation of ecdsa
asciilifeform: to this day
mircea_popescu: how would it ?
asciilifeform: well, say somebody sat down an'... wrote one
mircea_popescu: like... who ?
asciilifeform: somebody!1111
mircea_popescu: "there exists no standard plumbing in anthill". well... um...
mircea_popescu: this is kinda not how anthill works.
asciilifeform: currently i strongly suspect that it is possible to produce a technically valid ecdsa sig that will choke 1 particular ecctron but NOT another particular one.
asciilifeform: instafork.
mircea_popescu: possibru.
asciilifeform: ( this is definitionally so if thing is sufficiently complex + ill-specified. )
asciilifeform: currently i also suspect that the whole ecc 'fashion' was instituted specifically to prevent a ffa-style treatment.
mircea_popescu: seems fertile ground for "gotcha" in any case.
asciilifeform: aaha.
asciilifeform: and i will note, if a cipher system REQUIRES a MB of source, it is not a cipher system but an overcomplicated practical joke
mircea_popescu: how long was mpfhf, fifty lines ?
asciilifeform: ( the question of whether it actually takes the mb -- will be settled when i get around to implementing )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: depends in what. but not so long.
mircea_popescu: so then 50 for a hash, say 100 for a cipher. seems fair to me.
asciilifeform: i dunno how to fit a bignumtron in 100
asciilifeform: ( 100 ~readable~ , clear ln )
mircea_popescu: the cipher tho, not the gcd
asciilifeform: if somebody does -- plz write in.
asciilifeform: i am counting whole shebang
mircea_popescu: well what, including display bindings ? the kernel ?
asciilifeform: ffa for instance does NOT rely on an os
asciilifeform: or kernel
mircea_popescu: it's fine if it imports its maffs.
asciilifeform: being present at all
asciilifeform: it is portable to micros
asciilifeform: all you need is a putbyteuart and getbyteuart
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686859 << see also☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 19:00 asciilifeform: i have 'p' structured such that all it wants i/o-wise is a 'getbyte' and 'putbyte' that operator can replace with whatever
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-13#1669719 << seealso☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 23:13 asciilifeform: >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lBzDS/?raw=true << from the archives of asciilifeform : simple c example of The Only Driver
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity.
asciilifeform: ^ minimal x86 'os' in c.
asciilifeform: worx everywhere from 386 to whatever's on your desk.
asciilifeform: ( may have to change the constant in line 3 . )
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691984 << looool. yes, apparently, he was in this movie.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:25 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691887 << lol, the film with the pedo tardstalk sc4mz0r d00d in it
mod6: they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters.
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692017 << very much so yes, but I have not figured out how to gentoo a pogo unfortunately. I wasn't aware that there was a published recipe for it but i'll check out the loper OS article on the MyCloud Mini thing☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 17:36 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you wanna put it on teh market ?
danielpbarron: i must admit, working with the pogo makes me feel quite stupid. brings back that fear I used to get when working on normal computers "oh no will it no longer boot? i'm screwed!"
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: use my boot-on-tftp recipe
asciilifeform: doesn't touch the rom
asciilifeform: it was how i sweated out the pogorotor thing
asciilifeform: ( bonus, gives ooda loop of 5sec or so )
danielpbarron: is that for getting into it in the first place so that something more permanent can be installed?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: strictly for dev work
asciilifeform: ~useless in any other case
shinohai: Well almost *6* hours later the tards finally manage to mine a block.
shinohai: This is good for coffeecoin
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/roger-ver-ified-fork-finally-mines-a-block/ << Qntra - Roger Ver-ified Fork Finally Mines A Block
BingoBoingo: <mod6> they told us at the time, "Hey, you can be an extra in the movie if you want... it doesn't pay anything, just have to stand there for 12 hours a day..." Fuck that, we were too busy playing grab-ass with the figure-skaters. << What you have to do is speak during a take that is too good to exclude, get your SAG card.
BingoBoingo: !~calc 8/36
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: 8/36 = 0.2222222222222222
BingoBoingo: ^ MEGA thoroughput increase
BingoBoingo: !!up Birdman
deedbot: Birdman voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: mod6 there are worse asses to grab than figure skater's.
mod6: oh for sure. figure skaters often has nice asses. we like.
mircea_popescu: gotta stamp for approval also.
mod6: :]
f1maze: do I have to verify with deedbot everytime I connect?
f1maze: lol
mircea_popescu: yes. an' also stop join/parting all the time
f1maze: Is it that often? I connect/disconnect when arriving and leaving work, and when I get home
mircea_popescu: so get a bouncer maybe ?
BingoBoingo: Set up a bouncer before you get a tumour
f1maze: I dont know what that is
f1maze: guys, I'm new here
mircea_popescu: see how many things you learn here :D
shinohai: Google for `znc` or `weechat` f1maze .... you're welcome
trinque: curious what f1maze thinks would be the alternative to deedbot auth each time
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692139 << young trinque was deeply insulted by the chemical spirits that, no matter which he took, never saw a damn thing cept woobly versions of plain old reality.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 18:32 mircea_popescu: trinque lulz of all time btw : the whole article was actually inspired by yest dmt discussion. (hence machine elves reference, which is in the field a term of art)
BingoBoingo: Just remember kids, a lawnmower is simply an underpowered helicopter flipped over
shinohai: "http://pool.bitcoin.com is being DDoS'd. Small blockers are nothing better than militant terrorists" <<< BUT OF COURSE!!!!
f1maze: BingoBoingo: I added nitrous to my lawnmower to make it a hovercraft
mircea_popescu: keks shinohai
mircea_popescu: russian hackers, it prolly was.
shinohai: Prolly ddosin' themselves, what with the 1 hour+ blocktimes this shit has
mircea_popescu: "d"dosing
shinohai: The.y wanted the D
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ponytail adventures, http://68.media.tumblr.com/c4dcffc267d4f553fcb90a66bcaa584f/tumblr_o4r93t1zGs1uxrkulo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: !!up pa1atine
deedbot: pa1atine voiced for 30 minutes.
pa1atine: hi
mircea_popescu: ello
pa1atine: i think i got around at generating my key
pa1atine: i also posted it on wtopaste
pa1atine: anybody so kind to give me further pointers?
mircea_popescu: what is it that you need ?
pa1atine: well, how to register it with deedbot
shinohai: pa1atine: http://deedbot.org/help.html
pa1atine: ty
shinohai: https://twitter.com/poisonmadam/status/892514378314076160 <<< "Who's brave enough to carve My initials *MP* into their skin and DM Me the proof? I want you to suffer for Me boys. "
shinohai: kek
mircea_popescu: lmao.
mircea_popescu: what was the usg gdp/usd backed by, again ? "creativity" was it ?
pa1atine: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/W5MZw/?raw=true
deedbot: AAC0378219053AFD79AFA4D8861DF5C40C813682 is already registered as pa1atine.
mircea_popescu: " Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?", to quote.
shinohai: So now pa1atine you already have key registered, you just need to /msg deedbot !!up (assuming someone has rated you)
mircea_popescu: !!gettrust deedbot pa1atine
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
pa1atine: i did it this morning, but it didn't seem to work out at the time
mircea_popescu: so who are you, who do you know, what are you doing ?
shinohai: Lettuce hope you retained your private key
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/ardilla-al-dente/ << Trilema - Ardilla al dente!
pa1atine: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-27#1690419☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-27 21:43 palatine: i'm a lawyer by profession and trying to escape the barn in general
mircea_popescu: ah you changed your name
mircea_popescu: !!rate pa1atine 1 Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tqGg1/?raw=true
pa1atine: changed the nick, since irc said was already registerd
mircea_popescu: !!v 7FF08C6B5987A00EC3901DEF95DDBCAB55E64CA676EB7E1588AC133B0B0951A5
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
mircea_popescu: there, you can self voice now.
shinohai: Ardilla, lol ... when I was in CA I got thrown back by *iguana tacos*
pa1atine: ty
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's eaten here too. iguana i mean.
shinohai: Has mircea_popescu tried this delicacy?
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: i only ever saw it in either teh bidonvilles or the very dubious cheapo vendors, and it never appealed.
pa1atine: that is a fucking achievement
mircea_popescu: wd.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, here's the top employers for pierce country (wa) : jblm, 66k ; public schools, 13.5k ; obamacare etc 7k ; the state of washington 6.5k, the franciscan health system (about as franciscan as the ny jewish stuff) : 5.5k ; the county of pierce : 3k ; the state-owned universities : 2.5k ; fred meyer stores : 2.5k.
mircea_popescu: !~calc 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5)
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 2.5/(66 + 13.5 + 7 + 6.5 + 5.5 + 3 + 2.5 + 2.5) = 0.023474178403755867
mircea_popescu: 2.3% "private", for a definition of "private" that essentially reduces to walmart. if it were properly private fred meyer would just be the stamp on the local scrip.
mod6: evenin'
mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's what bloomberg hasd to say about... oh you've guessed it, putin : http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-17/putin-revives-soviet-deal-of-pretend-work-and-pay-to-hide-crisis
mircea_popescu: ~~~PUTIN~~~ is hit by a recession because of his inept policies ; and ~~~PUTIN~~~ is trying to hide the crisis. and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: reading fakepapers is such a riot.
ben_vulpes: what fraction of folks work for operations not on the biggest list?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how would you calculate this ?
mircea_popescu: they're all in the tide dollar trade i'd expect, who the fuck would work for bezzlar if not on the biggest list
ben_vulpes: "but mp, half of people work for small companies!!1"
mircea_popescu: "and get paid in fucks"
mircea_popescu: anyway, tacoma pop is 195k if that helps, of which 45k famblies.
mircea_popescu: so i'd expect 0% work outside of that biggest list.
ben_vulpes: pierce county 795k
mircea_popescu: i thought the whole fucking sounds region was like 1mn
f1maze: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken
ben_vulpes: incl. seattle?!
f1maze: needs peer review I'd imagine^^
mircea_popescu: well no, not seattle. the sounds.
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: f1maze: is this steemit thing plagiarizing the logs or what
mircea_popescu: i suspect steemit is a sort of how did they call that alt-disqus/alt-github "let us steal your content" thing ?
mircea_popescu: comium ? dorkium ?
mircea_popescu: medium!
f1maze: He does cite some logs
f1maze: in previous work
ben_vulpes: mm
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not that i dispute that boeing, ms, and ~everything in that neighborhood are no more than imperial outposts
mircea_popescu: if boeing is private, then i have no fucking idea what "state owned" would mean. they do pay their debts every ~15 years or so neh
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the "independent, career-oriented business woman" with a string of "serial entrepeneurship" consisting of hair salons her bf at the time bought for her.
ben_vulpes: remainder sliver is ad tech and masters degree holders pouring cocktails
mircea_popescu: (i've met a bunch of these btw, insane and incomprehensible as the item may appear in theory)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "fake tits and great attitude", http://68.media.tumblr.com/d832f2f93f38b074d0589482036c4d75/tumblr_o9l3uv1Uhj1udxojxo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 478627 | Current Difficulty: 8.60221984436E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 479807 | Next Difficulty In: 1180 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2732.0, vol: 12511.66342067 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2731.0, vol: 42322.12733475 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2727.846511, vol: 23790.16560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2731.972, vol: 13156.3264475 | Volume-weighted last average: 2730.45824516
mircea_popescu: oh incidentally, speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1691609 : word re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688636 ? maybe by next report ?☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-01 00:03 mod6: Ladies and Gentlemen of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation's ``State Of Bitcoin Address'': http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-August/000270.html
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 ben_vulpes: interesting
mod6 re-reads