deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-circle-explore-method/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Circle Explore Method
danielpbarron: heh, i typed up the xml file manually to make it do that
ben_vulpes: lol, dedication
shinohai: I manually made buttons to explore and return to town in xml xD
shinohai: one for irc but kept messing up client
shinohai: #chainstate ..... so much better than irc.cpp
mod6: shinohai: +1 outstanding work! thanks for testing those for me. much appreciated.
shinohai: o7
mircea_popescu: trinque what do you think re bill, line 1 name, line 2 amount in satoshi, all likes prefixed by a # memo field ?
mircea_popescu: nothing else is needed or wanted , or is there ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612495 << if your trb node is on solid hardware might as well add it to the list of nodes ; otherwise there's an ample swath of thingd to do, depends what your inclination is. i suggested looking into mimisbrunnr in the context of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-29#1609460☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 20:46 Reuel: mircea_popescu, i am geting blocks so i guess i built TRB, what would you suggest i do next? you mentioned mimisbrunnr, looking at that now, anything practical I could do except read?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-29 17:56 mircea_popescu: then you can look through mimisbrunnr and see the sort of load bitcoin db implies, then you'll be in a fine position to model adequate tests for the profiling thing above
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 23:29 shinohai: I tried to install it in a sandbox, naturally it says "Oh you are a speshul case because you dont share your private keyz with us"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612513 <<< o noes, but i thought internets are srs bidniss run by like professional corporates etc!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 23:37 framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
mircea_popescu: whole fucking stack consists of pictures of cats clicking upboat on pictures of dogs going "i have no idea what's going on".
shinohai: I'm not Framedragger or asciilifeform levell but I've had my eye own them from inception
mircea_popescu: who are them here ?
shinohai: them = keybase
mircea_popescu: ah ah yea
mircea_popescu: in other news, checking out the latest trump news is like fucking catnip, total unintentional comedy & butthurt goldmine.
shinohai: Why the insistence I upload mah pk
mod6: 'easy d' lol
mircea_popescu: pk ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, apparently melania trump worked as a high end escort, sez daily mail ? i never had the pleasure, but seriously, wouldn't you WANT a president whose daugther is keen ?
shinohai: *pk = privkey
mircea_popescu: ah ah
mircea_popescu: "i have nfi who thios coretta king person is". totally.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's a harsh blow to the socialist dorks to realise that no, being "an activist" doesn't mean you're someone. every yoko ono out there shudders, and that's... most of the movement.
mircea_popescu: anyway. warren becoming the libertard schelling point is possibly the best thing for sanity. she's utterly terrible.
mircea_popescu: selected fake news butthurt : https://archive.is/VJCqA
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/18b0b3a13a75ed537a94955d7ec082e8/tumblr_o7yhg27Se91v0oj9oo2_500.gif
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-capitalism/#comment-121289
asciilifeform: http://www.trobar.org/troubadours/montan/montan2.php << found by way of the not-so-great www sources.
mircea_popescu: o hai. was just answering
asciilifeform sick in bed all day, caught up on l0gz, about to return to same.
mircea_popescu: there you go.
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: pretty good bed-reading.
mircea_popescu: certainly.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Beautiful new blog layout!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612526 << i saw this and immediately expected it to be about the spiral 'torpedo' search strategy, but nope☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 00:08 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-circle-explore-method/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Circle Explore Method
asciilifeform: ( pretty spiffy hot-cold search algo used in torpedo and some types of ir-guided rocket. possibly generalizable to n-dimensions )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612539 << i am unaware of 'keybase' in any ~other~ context but 'ploy for scamming privkeys out of idiots'☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 02:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users.
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612513 << somehow this unfailingly happens to every d00d who works with tmsr. reminisce nostalgically of the old days when kgb did not have to take down an entire building to plant one phone bug.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 23:37 framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612423 << this is very spiffy phf . didja ever use 'microc' under msdos? similar.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 05:22 phf: asciilifeform: http://www.bdsoft.com/resources/bdsc.html "An 8080/Z80 C Compiler"
asciilifeform: (though for n00bz i will point out, c compilers as a class did not get much play in the z80 days, because everybody programmed in asm (well, in codes, most folx asmed on paper , by hand)
trinque: goes without saying but hey, back your shit up locally, folks
asciilifeform: )
trinque had namecheap "oh we deleted your records but you noticed, so we removed the penis. what penis, even?" while back
mircea_popescu: i recall
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612534 << sounds sensible to me☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 01:57 mircea_popescu: trinque what do you think re bill, line 1 name, line 2 amount in satoshi, all likes prefixed by a # memo field ?
mircea_popescu: prolly should add line 3, block count where bill is due.
trinque: makes sense. and "this is paid when the precise amount of satoshi moves to my account" ?
mircea_popescu: so something like http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tOSaM/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: trinque well if they're deeds then i say something like !!pay http://deedbot.org/deed-451136-1.txt and deedbot responds with 451136-1.txt paid or insufficient funds or somesuch
mircea_popescu: of course im not so sure tight coupling between deeds and bills is such a good idea.
trinque: right, previous threads on opposability are coming to mind
mircea_popescu: of course in principle deedbot could work as it works now, take any url, if shoe fits it pays.
mircea_popescu: so if user wants to deed fine, if not, no.
mircea_popescu: that opens up the "omfg why did you pay bill at http://scambills.org/roflcopter.txt it wasn't me!!" to which the retort is hey, sfyl, next time don't let someone else log into #trilema as you.
asciilifeform: ^ ups the ante for fleanode-diddling tho.
trinque: might be a good thing
mircea_popescu: for one, yes, good thing ; for the otherdeedbot can still limit payments to voiced ppls.
mircea_popescu: so you know, if you pass a !!up...
trinque: also payment can just challenge with OTP
mircea_popescu: should yes.
trinque planned on that
mircea_popescu: there;s a lot of flexibility here. i mean i can see the value in terms of both ease of use and discovering how frail the system is to not bother with opt challenge ; on the other i can see the value in terms of solidity and so on to do bother.
trinque: perhaps sensible to leave it to choice here as well.
trinque: I provide some command to flip the challenge-me bit
trinque: folks want to use it out on a night of drinking, can. want to hold it more tightly, also can
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: i mean suppose what'll now forever be known as the phf problem : you find yourself stranded in tijuana with a drunk slut in bed. you want to buy breakfast. wut do ?
mircea_popescu: !!up mthreat
deedbot: mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: o.O
trinque: speak of the diddle
mircea_popescu: !!up mthreat
deedbot: mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
mthreat: lol
asciilifeform: cosmicray!
mthreat: mircea_popescu: how's BA?
mircea_popescu: as shitty as always.
mircea_popescu: how's texas enjoying the pussygrab ?
mthreat: ride 'em cowboy
mircea_popescu: lel
trinque: mthreat: whereabouts in tx?
mthreat: austin
trinque: ah I think maybe we had this conversation already
trinque: anyhow that's a californian exclave by now right?
mthreat: yeah all the rich californians coming into the third world here
mircea_popescu: bwahaha. "just as hot as back home, except lots and lots of animals to save!"
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/kings-bounty-reloaded-mages-still-rule/ << Trilema - King's Bounty Reloaded - Mages Still Rule
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=6528
BingoBoingo: http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8741
phf: ^ reminds me of a 90s ru joke, a "new russian" (i.e. mobster) is showing off a piano in his giant mansion lobby. so the friend goes "you know how to play it?" "no, but i got some egghead stopping by tonight to show me how"
mircea_popescu: lel.
mircea_popescu: and in other clams'n'snails, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb4h6snWex1rg58a9o6_500.gif
mircea_popescu: "Boston University's Charles River Campus is cancelling daytime and evening classes on Thursday, February 9, 2017 as of 6:00 AM. All academic and administrative activities (e.g. classes, seminars, student activities and meetings) that are scheduled to take place are cancelled." << global warming gave boston a winter storm the likes of which was rarely seen.
mircea_popescu: 20 inches of snow apparently.
shinohai reads latest trilema, waits for mircea_popescu to tip fedora
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumbin-plumber/ << Trilema - The Plumbin' Plumber
thestringpuller: Why are OpenSSL types so ridiculous to work with? EC_KEY needs to plug into BIO which has to plug into TTY before you can even print the thing to stdout or a string.
thestringpuller: libsecp256k1 is even worse from what little glances of it
asciilifeform: in other olds,
asciilifeform: 'Another unsuccessful rocket torpedo inventor was Patrick Cunningham, an Irish immigrant who earned his living as a shoe maker and repairer in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Samples were tested for several years at NTS but the short range and wholly unpredictable trajectory destined this weapon for the scrap heap. However, in one last fling of exuberance, Cunningham fired his torpedo down the main street of his home town; it roared along
asciilifeform: her’s shop where it burned down the ice room.'
asciilifeform: ...roared along at very high speed before coming to rest in the butcher’s shop where it burned down the ice room.'
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 986.0, vol: 22398.26328720 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 968.483, vol: 15891.5575 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 979.07, vol: 50196.59104347 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 996.632, vol: 27158.27450000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 983.136, vol: 5954.70531136 | Volume-weighted last average: 983.084341579
mircea_popescu: sounds very maga-ish
asciilifeform: in other lulzies, http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/02/09/27
mircea_popescu: bweahahaha knights for socialism, bash the fash, leftist fight club ? epic.
asciilifeform: 'We found a few extended regex expressions in GNU libc that will crash or abort the execution of regcomp or regexec. For instance: \a?{1,32767} will immediately exhaust the stack calling calc_eclosure_iter in the compilation. A small variation of this regex is: \a?{0,32767} will consume a very large amount of memory: it seems to eat 16GB in less than a minute. It is also possible to exhaust the stack memory trying to parse...'
mircea_popescu: lel
mircea_popescu: apparently "enclosure calculation" is a fundamental braindamage of ustards ?
asciilifeform: drepper is a 'ustard' ?
mircea_popescu: buncha fosstards "reviewed" thje code yes ?
asciilifeform: incidentally -- there is more to this crapolade than meets the naked eye. regexp is a fundamentally braindamaged concept -- not only in the way described by naggum (how do you infer false positives?) but also in the haskellian idiocy where 'reasonable' and 'thermonuclear self-annihilation' programs look nearly identical, and distinguishing them is np-hard
asciilifeform: ( see also, http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3182471178876789@naggum.net.html )
mircea_popescu: wut do ?
asciilifeform: the expulsion of 'In all likelihood, there was no change at all to the labor-intensiveness, but the labor was more "fun" for a certain class of people. Now, industrious retards can be a horrible thing. Over a number of years, close to a decade, Perl accreted bits and pieces from programming languages and became usable in lieu of a programming language by people who lacked the mental wherewithall to do programming. Tinkerers, repair
asciilifeform: ers, handymen, the auto mechanics of the IT industry, all flocked to Perl because they could tinker so well with it with no required knowledge or skills.' ( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3241270848355795@naggum.no.html ) would go a long way.
asciilifeform: regex belongs in the tool chest next to 'duct tape'.
mircea_popescu: so you want no regexp ?
asciilifeform: certainly not as part of any permanent public structure.
asciilifeform: any moar than 'superglue'.
asciilifeform: it is properly a 'harem object'.
asciilifeform: rather like that tape that one uses to keep car muffler from falling down on the way to the welder's shop.
thestringpuller: duct tape is useful for actual ducting...
thestringpuller: ventilation et. al.
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i love the way the comments work on your blog. brilliant!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-plumber-rampant/ << Trilema - The Plumber Rampant
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> duct tape is useful for actual ducting... << NO!!! For that you need a Mastic Ducting tape!
BingoBoingo: Common "Duct tape" is too vulnerable to temperature fluctuations and decomposition to be useful on ducts
mircea_popescu: i thought mastic was for sniffing
BingoBoingo: mastic is an entire class of stuff
BingoBoingo: But yes, generally sniffable
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: just when you thought this can't get any lulzier: '...resource exhaustion issues which can be triggered only with crafted patterns (either during compilation or execution) are not treated as security bugs.' ( https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Security%20Exceptions )
mircea_popescu: fucking epic. so - putin asks trump about extending the START, trump says it's a bullshit deal.
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: MWGA!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice heh.
mircea_popescu: in other somewhat lulz, https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2017/01/25/12/trump-abortion-2.jpg
mircea_popescu: teh lady doth protest, but she looks unconvinced.
asciilifeform: ..that's a woman??!
mircea_popescu: lotta these ^ shaped mouths on fatties in attendance huh
mircea_popescu: sorta suggests pelagic fish to me. *nom*
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/pboc-coordinates-action-among-chinese-fiatbitcoin-interfaces-again-anti-money-laundering-being-pushed/ << Qntra - PBOC Coordinates Action Among Chinese fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Again: Anti-Money Laundering Being Pushed
BingoBoingo: ^ Original People's Republic seems to want to Bahamas
mircea_popescu: by some strange law of conservation there's always an idiot in the room.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's ~really~ hard to learn from what happened to mrs pantsuits.
BingoBoingo: Hard to formulate a law of idiocy when well of idiocy is too deep to explore.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/02/internet-transit-provider-cogent-communications-blocking-pirate-sites/ << Qntra - Internet Transit Provider Cogent Communications Blocking Pirate Sites
mircea_popescu: apparently there's such a thing as hashbang.sh
mircea_popescu: some kind of non-republican uci attempt ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun see anything 'uci' about it -- looks like a script that serves up a shell? 1990s parlour trick
asciilifeform: ( and, unsurprisingly, lives and dies by linux's attempt at userland process separation )
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8D4Xi/?raw=true << lisp folks, shouldn't this work?
trinque: the connection in that slot is definitely eql to the one in the specializer
trinque: kind gentleman in #lisp points out that the second arg ought to be a list