Framedragger: heh. labour theory of value for reddit: i spend hour at reddit while you spend hour at reddit at work - why we unequal
mircea_popescu: goes right with the "western women be bitchez" logics of the alt-unfucked.
mircea_popescu: see, booth WAS a liberal. these dorks are conservative.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re public fucking - it's good for the soul, what's to be "into". public fucking, public speaking, public dying, it's all human nature.
mircea_popescu: but i will point out that i'm not into it per se ; i just don't happen to give a shit.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-20 23:54 Framedragger: "no possibility of transcend", so to speak, following protocol. (re. "can you pay me to do what i'm used to doing when i get paid")
mircea_popescu: they wish not merely to be personally insured against the situation where the owner of capital forces them to subjectively change - they wish for this to not happen, anywhere, ever. because if it doesn't happen anywhere ever, it's not even that they're retards (literally, infantile minds trapped in adult bodies), but "just how things are". the normalisation of neoteny is the fundamental point of regulation.
mircea_popescu: in which sense, of course they're at least scared of trump. and of course he's "the rapist". forcing change in the passive subject, irrespective of said subject's spinny ruminations - intolerabru!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i thought it was just a campus. << There are cities named bloomington in Illinois and Indiana, both bloomingtons have campuses. neither are anything special
mircea_popescu: not horribru, but it totally seems like they had a decent idea and then didn't really know what to do with it.
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mircea_popescu: mkay, so working class usians want the us to be more like argentina, ie, poor and stupid but monolithic in the poverty of stupidity. "they'll be happier".
mircea_popescu: which is how the whole "jews invented sluttery so hardworking redditards don't ~get~ a^H THEIR woman!"
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-20: [19:36:42] <mircea_popescu> ACTION tries to read bartle because people keep insisting. aside from his tiresome cabotinism (really bitch, mud1 is a major point of reference, because why, you never heard of rogue/nethack or what) he's about as sighted as a snail. 'cyberpunk teaches designers a number of valuable lessons about the sociology and psychology of players and the
scriba: responsibilities of developers. virtual worlds are not insulated from the real world
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : total student debt in the us is 1.25 trn. ie - more than bannon's trillion.
BingoBoingo: Power Move For Bannon: Forgive it and blame Obama.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'd totally see trump go on tv first day of term and say "all us college degrees are utterly worthless anyway, so nobody should have to pay back anything to anyone for them."
mircea_popescu: harvard will get really, really angry and... what ? birbe putin to invade ?
mircea_popescu: with what money, with all their apple stock that could buy russia ?
BingoBoingo: Or pin bailout to successful trade school + apprenticeship in trade for maximal butthurt
BingoBoingo: Seriously though, baristas waiting for waiting for screenplay idea who refuse to work with dirty and wood and hands are stuck still in debt because circular saws are so unfair
BingoBoingo: OMG no air conditioning until AFTER building wired!
BingoBoingo: It'll be like Elliot and the staircase on a mass scale!
trinque: nodes in the svg are hyperlinks nao, thickness indicates rating value
trinque probably will have a nick & fp search on it in a few days, pubkey download, sorts on table cols
mod6: injector/coil pack job done. runs like a watch.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: since i'm fiddling around with postgres for work anyway, i'm curious, if you find a moment, could you maybe send me the postgresql.conf file on phuctor's machine? i'd take a look (it's very possible you know much more re. what's needed there, but i'm just curious about a coupla parameters, doesn't hurt to check)
☟︎ shinohai: Now he can spread those chemtrails in style.
mircea_popescu: trinque dots should be stop chars though. i meant actual solid alphanum blocks not "blackmirror.nosedive.final"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: apparently microsoft gets institutional contracts through bribing the local politicians, who could have guessed.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated xmj.
Framedragger: !!v 43755F6E0D0835E77B954BEAAC0470B159FBF960D48D2084B182FE18C40C33C0
deedbot: Framedragger unrated pirateat40.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated liquidassets.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated blazedout419.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:06 asciilifeform: !!unrate kakobrekla
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated oleanie.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated nubbins`.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated mrottenkolber.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated moiety.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated foofingers.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated felipelalli.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated Joshua-I.
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated kakobrekla.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: well, regarding whether a gpg contract was broken, and by whom. but i guess since he doesn't seem like being motivated to present his story in one take, instead of passive-aggressively reminding people of the story by hints, it's a bit derp.
Framedragger: (ah, i guess i see what you mean by 'confined to his own planet'. unrating != negrating.)
mircea_popescu: "It is important to remember that the score associated to a relationship does not mark the direct trust of the scorer for the scoree, but merely the scorer's confidence that the information he has about scoree is correct, accurate, relevant and complete. All four.
mircea_popescu: Let's also note that such a thing as "the direct trust" of X for Y can not even be noted down in the first place, it being entirely a subjective determination of X, and consequently wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen applies. "
Framedragger considers how accurate his information about mp is. the computation required is probably NP-complete, lol.
☟︎ Framedragger: maybe i'll get the opportunity to organize a party in the next 20 years. would be grand.
shinohai: !!v 99DFD7D2987717996C40721EF93346B9CA1E07C7D462354048FAC676D5F116CE
shinohai: !!rate trinque 3 deedbot.org, trb
shinohai: !!v BDF76E681DF822D787E29E0BCB0A11116F3697FD66F4EDB9F476234DC4A869BD
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of trinque from 2 to 3 << deedbot.org, trb
trinque: still work to be done, but done soon.
trinque: I'll have the page updates being fired via db trigger. I just don't do this "lets regenerate every page of this book every time the page is read" anymore.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 14:33 mircea_popescu: and in other news nobody cares about,
https://archive.is/lh93u << microsoft management in romania as well as various politicians etc arrested for graft and whatnot.
shinohai: I keep reading about this new Ubuntu-based distro Zorin OS ... an "alternative" to Windowze 10
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 14:17 mircea_popescu: trinque dots should be stop chars though. i meant actual solid alphanum blocks not "blackmirror.nosedive.final"
trinque: such elliotism, that what was "distro" is now OS.
shinohai: I'd almost bet a Bitcoin that anond from #eulora will come in with it installed on his laptop next time he surfaces.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i used to hold get togethers, we did iirc three.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:24 asciilifeform: there is also the elementary fact that ratings take up space.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:16 asciilifeform: in my mind, you oughta unrate those folx who there is no reasonable expectation of seeing again.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 17:09 asciilifeform: very talkative corpse
mircea_popescu: the wot is to be based on judgement about the past ; not on projections about the future.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 15:26 Framedragger considers how accurate his information about mp is. the computation required is probably NP-complete, lol.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-20: [19:36:42] <mircea_popescu> ACTION tries to read bartle because people keep insisting. aside from his tiresome cabotinism (really bitch, mud1 is a major point of reference, because why, you never heard of rogue/nethack or what) he's about as sighted as a snail. 'cyberpunk teaches designers a number of valuable lessons about the sociology and psychology of players and the
scriba: responsibilities of developers. virtual worlds are not insulated from the real world
phf: also i've been mostly quite in the past two weeks, because i'm sick. i should be back to the regular schedule programming in a week or so
shinohai: !~later tell mod6 so after roughly 10 minutes, trb will accept a 8192 char string as label :D
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, there's a reason trilema has to be this fucking big.
shinohai: asciilifeform: yesterday we were curious if bounds checking was performed when importing a privkey
shinohai: working on a regrind of funkensteins privkey patch
shinohai: It appears db4.8 doesn't really care how large the field is
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone play a lot of rogue / has friends/connections in the rogue/nethack community ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: at least a decade ago they kept track who ascended with what and when and etcetera.
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that it's not just a good fit for eulora, but actually very wot and tmsr-like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was a pretty cool dungeon crawler (demise) which i loved and always regretted they didn't properly implement it as a roguelike with gfx.
mircea_popescu: but nah, demise was advanced, actual paper dollies like the might and magic series.
Framedragger: there's dcss
https://crawl.develz.org/ which you can play using webtiles, or via standalone executable with gfx (iirc), or via terminal / nethack-style. i haven't played a lot of it but it's nice.
mircea_popescu: (if you teleport into solid walls you're fucked worse than death)
mircea_popescu: it also displays what was wrong with it - fucking rings of magic. get teleport ring + death/fire rings, wipe it all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, eulora dungeons are very likely to look a lot like demise's (except programatically generated).
mircea_popescu: iirc first incarnation of loud imbecile with flock of followers who got publicly owned and moved to "proof of stake" as "solution"
mircea_popescu: lol kayne west is "white nationalist" nao ? poor jooz, so much to want, so little to get, so many mind pretzels to make!
BingoBoingo: This is truly a great again time to be alive
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw speaking of "i don't understand what this does therefore it's secure" - you know the rogue rnz ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 17:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone play a lot of rogue / has friends/connections in the rogue/nethack community ?
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: good stuff! horribru UI (in terms of consistencies) iirc (long time ago)
mircea_popescu: i think it was just in my blindspot. apparently everyone goes through a decade-ish of disinterest.
ben_vulpes: rather deep crafting tree, roguelike + 4x
ben_vulpes: dwarf fortress is a game you play in spite of the game's best efforts to stop you
ben_vulpes: players wrote their own dwarf mgmt software because the builtin mgmt tools are famously inadequate
mircea_popescu: actually : current lead dev started life as frustrated eulora player who wrote a bot to automate the insanity.
Framedragger: main df dev gave up pure math postdoc to focus on df full-time iirc
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, from this losing article, seems eulora castles are intended to work exactly like fortresses, ie, sooner or latter you'll prolly lose it.
diana_coman: iirc I *did* mention dwarf fortress some time ago precisely because of some similarities; I think mircea_popescu left a message on their wiki/forum/whatevs but nothing/nobody materialised as a result
Framedragger: if there's one thing they have is a fucking dedicated community
diana_coman: my xp with the (very few) df players I know is that they are either so dedicated to df or so comfortable with it that they totally unavailable/unwilling to even looking at something else
shinohai: Fucking Eulora ... I had a dream about exploring one night.
shinohai: Nope, just like irl I keep getting smalls xD
shinohai: What can I say, the game likes punishing me for taking so long to jump on board.
mircea_popescu: o look, bay12 (like minigame, but for dwarf fortress) does... monthly reports.
Framedragger: that's mainly because the two brows live off of stable donations by their dedicated community, i think. :) but then the community has high expectations and are (in a wishy-washy) sense kinda-shareholders.. so yah, heh.
mircea_popescu: ./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: 1: Syntax error: ")" unexpected << ahem
mircea_popescu: so basically they ship binaries which don't run and all the discussion is re df.exe
Framedragger: "This error means that you are using the 64-bit edition on a 32-bit system.
Framedragger: "Try downloading the 32-bit version from the All Versions tab on the Dwarf Fortress download page. "
mircea_popescu: Framedragger pretty sure the system is 64 bit but anyway
Framedragger: (oh that may be for the pack. sorry for spam.)
Framedragger: (because there shouldnt be need for java iirc)
mircea_popescu: meh, dies because doesn't have "shared" libraries which it needs but doesn't bundle.
Framedragger: i know how you dislike 'shared libraries', but honestly this is standard practice, yknow.
Framedragger: inb4 "standard practices can suck my dick" - fair, i guess
mircea_popescu: well, standard whatever. i don't have it, they don't supply it, story ends neh ?
mircea_popescu: can pick one of (deliver binaries, expect user to accomodate your library needs). not both.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wait, they're still not accepting the election results ?
BingoBoingo: "Despite uneventful Q1 hour cold calorics, weekly MRIs, a record breaking 1,500-hour continuous EEG, and a clinical exam consistent with unquestionable brain death, the patient remained a ‘full code’ at the wishes of his power of attorney. The patient’s family insisted that he has “always been a fighter.”"
BingoBoingo: “His PT/OT evaluation went from partial to full weight bearing on lower extremities now that his rigor mortis has fully set in,”