BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> "Obamacare's markets are nearing failure as premiums climb and healthier individuals drop out" << did someone cancel the penalty for rolling uninsured or am i missing something here << "Rolling uninsured" penalty is trivial compared to Obamacare subscription
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: sure, if you don't have taxable income
mircea_popescu: what you mean is, "if you're not trying to run a small business"
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, the utter dearth of "small businesses! young people!" verbiage in the tower of maga is perhaps the lulziest part of all this.
ben_vulpes: nono, instead we get "women executives"
mircea_popescu: "service economy" aka "we'll prosper through doing each other's laundry, babysitting each other's kids and drawing things on each other's napkins" to be replaced by "maga economy" aka "we'll prosper through hipsters in haliburton hard hats" or wtf.
ben_vulpes: if it were "small businesses! young people!" the clamor for universal college debt jubilee would be deafening
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: max was total annual premiums for a "bronze" plan
mircea_popescu: aurolac = instabronze, which is what ro urchins sniff.
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure it's toluene because of the tell-tale parasympathetic lesions leading to loss of ability to regulate body heat in abusers.
mircea_popescu: depends. became a niche thing pre 70s ; otherwise during the 90s
mircea_popescu: there's that picture of the naked kid sniffing from a bag in bucharest cca 2000 that gave it iconic status
mircea_popescu: but it's self limiting enough that it never was as fashionable as i dunno, raising cats.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Huffing has been a thing since sad man first found petroleum seep
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sniffing technological solvents is never going to be fashionable in the ipad sense for obvious reasons.
mircea_popescu: i know the specs and etc because it was in the management class, workforce hazards.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile workforce became you know, "in charge of its own destiny", consequently sniffs the hazards voluntarilt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was a thing in the sense gayness was a thing. before the boring lametards got their grubby culturally appropriative hands on it, meausred in ppm but present.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: that's my point. post ww2 there's very marked silence-post-centralisation.
mircea_popescu: well yes but sniffing solvent and writing on paper are rather mutually exclusive.
mircea_popescu: decade ago or so. anyway, it's a subculture, inconsequential as it may be. in certain ways infinitely more authentic than the alternative interpretations.
ben_vulpes: let us not forget how committed you were to "can not possibly win, clitler and lizards would never stand for it" you were, asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: well, he likes to play the roll-up. win one, get to have been right all along :D
mircea_popescu: win symbolically, win eventually, win ironically, just as long as it's win!
ben_vulpes: unfortunately, without skin in the game the man can keep "doubling down" forever.
trinque: anybody who fancies an interesting life might prefer he gets removed
trinque: it'll piss the people who voted him in off quite a bit.
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, i wouldn't particulartly mind seeing the answer to that riddle play out
ben_vulpes: anyways, asciilifeform is there a particular thing you're citing or just "moi moi, uber alles"?
mircea_popescu: "is there such a thing as a white man left in the new world ? or did the redskins totally eat the colonists"
trinque: if they did nothing after, piss on them; they aren't people
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's funny how "winning" works out. white man went to new world to make the local idiots stop sucking. much like iraq today.
trinque: asciilifeform: you need to go travel the parts of the country you consider "fly over" before we continue the thread
mircea_popescu: in the end... the stupid side of the planet ended up dragging them to its own level.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pick any large down ; go downtown. irs doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: go to bucharest, talk to the guy depicted. no irs in those gutters.
mircea_popescu: alrighty. los angeles. roxbury, since i just mentioned it. pittsburg.
trinque: didn't the oregon militia people get off anyway?
trinque: aside the guy they shot, and iirc it was *one* guy that died
trinque: waco to letting 'em walk in two decades
mircea_popescu: "there's nothing we can do but we realloy really wanna do something so we'll accidentallty shoot one".
trinque: I recall having a neighbor from $southernshithole a while back
trinque: guy roughed up a girl he liked so he carved his lungs out
trinque: asciilifeform: there are people you've never seen in your life
mircea_popescu: i would offer it as a fact that there's more people within the contiguous 51 states (bahamas addedone, what!) on whom the irs dun work than there's webdevelopers.
mircea_popescu: lafond makes a great point at some point, that "violence" in the millitant style the us represents it as is principally a product of the second sons of a favoured class.
mircea_popescu: this is entirely correct, "black thug" is generally the neglected son of a respectable black accountant with an earned college degree.
mircea_popescu: similarily, the "invading mexican" is the son of a woman who moved there in the 50s barefoot and married the police chief.
mircea_popescu: so yes, it's a class warfare thing. two heads of the aspirational hydra - one that aspires through "stem" and the other that aspires through "business".
mircea_popescu: in between sucking their cock for coke bumps, there's nothing the ironic cumrags from wellesley agree more heartedly about than how lame business majors are.
mircea_popescu: the same dynamic repeats, yes, the dorky kids who took programming class hate the jocky kids who took fast and furious on tv.
mircea_popescu: "it was supposed to be my pie in the sky and now you're eating it!"
mircea_popescu: the only way a pie in the sky can even be eaten in the first place is this.
trinque: legalize flying cars fuck yes, about time
hanbot: what's the proper name to ascribe to this super fun phenomenon wherein trb node happily catches up on blocks until 99.x% and then drops connections and stops seeing new blocks after <10mins?
☟︎ hanbot: i assumed that entailed eventual unblackholing. granted i haven't had the patience to wait more than a day to see.
trinque: might be interesting to collect some wireshark packets while this is going on.
trinque: and to look at those alongside your log
mircea_popescu: i suspect one willing to live a monk's year with this might end up with a handful of servers inside ft meade in his hands.
mod6: shinohai: hey, thanks!
mod6: my test node gets bh'd all the time, still responds to rpc commands. i typically do the samething, stop. wait a bit, restart.
mod6: yup, i should add that I am running with malleus.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> also note that if you built with malleus patch, you will be kickbanning prb peers as soon as they disgorge a prbism of any kind (e.g., 'bloom filter' command) << Bloom isn't what disconnects most PRB nowadays. It is "BIP 151 compact blocks".
BingoBoingo enjoys the plot of every Tom Clancy novel playing out in role reversed fashion. Brave russians help patriotic Americans save nation from decades old KGB plot.
BingoBoingo: Seriously fucking cultural marxism was THE soviet wunderwaffen. Putin is doing the world a service by trying to disarm it.
jhvh1: 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
BingoBoingo: Coding patch to simply say "no" to compact blocks and restore TRB/PRB communion would likely be trivial, BUT setting that precedent is impossibru
BingoBoingo: Still power rangers don't get to add faggy pinky stuff to node handshake.
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mircea_popescu: let's not overstate flynn lel. bannon's teh vizier. so far he outranks cia on the nsc.
mircea_popescu: anyway. certainly not "next". they've been whining about him since day one, he'd have been 1st, 2nd and 100th, if only could. but the noise is soundly muted out of apparent desperation.
BingoBoingo: This year's superbowl was rare good game, and Trump/Brady won in the end
trinque: no denying flynn was a "rein in teh shadow state" guy, and got popped
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude that is like the most inept scoring i ever saw. for one thing, trump scored like 500 touchdowns. for the other, srsly flynn is half a point.
mircea_popescu: get out of here with this dumb shit, you're the equivalent of the prison bitch who "prison bitch : 1 ; prison system : 0" because asshole already loose anyway.
mircea_popescu: and if you're going to count flynn, then "some judge" is worth about what, 72 points and three superbowl nipples ?
mircea_popescu: us president stated on the record that us federal judge is inept and not to be taken seriously.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, gotta make meathook factory first
mircea_popescu: inconsistent simplicity is indistinguishable from wilful stupidity.
trinque: no shit huh? now they know how to meathooks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not guess the same but the other way ? "i never made a budget in a public institution, but if i had i'd know you always overprovision so the '''watchdogs''' can cut something and feel useful. i guess flynn was that."
ben_vulpes: in other radiation damage, $client calls up, "hey latest chrome doesn't work with $app from inside the muni vpn" "...can you swing a vpn or shall i get on a plane?"
ben_vulpes: at least we finally routed around the procurement process...
ben_vulpes: and in yet other "you don't own this device" news, my v1 kindle does this amazing trick when i email it .mobi files where it briefly displays them and then immediately removes them
mircea_popescu: learn this one amazing trick a portland dad discovered that apple doesn't want you to know.
ben_vulpes: spoiler alert: it's called a usb cable
ben_vulpes: i am fond of the device. it has a slow, but acceptable resolution screen for reading old texts of middling ocr quality, fits in jeans pocket. most importantly and differentiating it from later models, it shows no ads.
ben_vulpes: i know a gent who is cursed with one of the later, more expensive models and he keeps it in a piece of leather to hide the ads.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: every release past the first if i recall correctly. second you could buy an ad-free version, but...
ben_vulpes: excellent little device for erotica on the train "or so i hear"
mircea_popescu: it's quickly becoming a sign of idiocy, like going out in public in flip flops / hoodie or being fat.
ben_vulpes: don't ask me, i'm not sixty female and fat
mircea_popescu: otherwise wtf... so you get hard and... oh shit i didn't plan this far ahead... uhmmm... i guess fuck this here keyhole.
ben_vulpes: i do low-intensity email and various other tasks that don't call for focus on the train
mircea_popescu: last time i was actually on a train-train i bought out the sleeping car and had the girls naked and rubbing before it rolled out of the station.
ben_vulpes: hey i found a slut on the train to pycon one year!
mircea_popescu: ah, those. i went on the light rail here, it was a spicy adventure. i don't think they EVER maintain the tracks. solid 10 minutes of screeching.
mircea_popescu: if a car doesn't go offrail there one of these days, argentina is outside normal physics.
ben_vulpes: surely not i thought that was an actual subway
ben_vulpes: have they run one to the airport yet ffs?
mircea_popescu: i am relatively proud to say i have by now seen just about every inch of this ~largest town on earth.
ben_vulpes: train to jfk always beat cabs on price and speed
mircea_popescu: let me make a point here. buenos aires and instanbul are about the same thing, 10mn+ towns, largest in their area etc.
mircea_popescu: istanbul airport processes about 5-10k people/hour, every hour, every day. i haven't seen anything like that since before maga.
mircea_popescu: buenos aires HAS NO DIRECT FLIGHTS. you understand this ? they're like omaha, nebraska, you can fly to flordia or madrid. that's it.
mircea_popescu: well, it's about the size of a medium sized mall's parking lot.
ben_vulpes: still. no train to an airport that far from 'downtown' is bogus.
ben_vulpes: a+ steaks and entirely friendly horsefolk too
ben_vulpes: the mind boggles at the conspiracy of circumstance that would let a someone near your tools
mircea_popescu: eh, cheap chino item. i set it on the windowsill. stepped inside for a moment. wind rolled it into the gap. when i came back, 5 mins later... gone.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants a used 10 dollar screwdriver from the sidewalk ffs.
ben_vulpes: i ever tell you about how i took sport in fixing toilets in ars my first trip there?
ben_vulpes: anyways, 9/10 places charging more than twenty dollars a place had at least one busted shitter
ben_vulpes: facade of a sushi joint's only shitter was busted
mircea_popescu: it;s something else with the toilets. in any other place, you can guess : cheapo place, dubious shitter ; expensive restaurant, nice shitter.
mircea_popescu: here, it's totally disconnected. you can go to a pretentious restaurant, take an ill advised left and find oyurself in that scene from trainspotting.
mircea_popescu: you can also step into hole in the wall nothingery, ask for toilet, discover that it's immaculate, and slightly larger than the dining hall.
mircea_popescu: i ask the maitre d' "so what happened to your bathroom ?" "uh... it's always been like that."
ben_vulpes: upstairs of the cafe where asciilifeform and i had coffees with chetty was hugely bathroom, and the space that wasn't bathroom unused
ben_vulpes: in line with the wannabe shabby chic of the place
mircea_popescu: yeah they're abhorrently bad at allocating real estate.
ben_vulpes: place entirely fails to achieve "delightfully busted" unless you really go looking for it
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 07:20 ben_vulpes: i know a gent who is cursed with one of the later, more expensive models and he keeps it in a piece of leather to hide the ads.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you notice anything in the interiors of the sewage system dwellers asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: yes but did you notice the old phone kept as a statuette ? and the rest of the hipster dumbassery ?
mircea_popescu: that'd be why it's buried under crap, becauswe functional.
mircea_popescu: tell you what : those people are the quintessential hipsters. that's what a hipster is, exactly that : a bum. like orwell, like all the ironic waitresses / actresses of the west coast. bums. tramps. PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AT HIME HERE.
mircea_popescu: that old phone provides a fundamental lifeline. maybe god will call him on that phone any day now.
mircea_popescu: that phone is the palpable (it has to be! hipsters don;'t have souls), certain mark of apartenence. they are people too, because of that phone, you see ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mark of the covenant, with their ancestor lord-saint graham bell.
mircea_popescu: the notion that meryl streep is in any way different from bruce lee of bucharest's sewers, or for that matter you-name-her-nameless-activist-du-jour is possibly contemporaneity's best lol.
mircea_popescu: "for as lord as i hear the voice of google and all the websaints, i am not properly alone in teh valley of where mp rapes my buttonhole daily."|
mircea_popescu: ever wondered why people who literally do nothing online, spend all day on quora or wikipedia or whatever, get so irate if their signal dies ? "omaigawd no internet" "bitch, this is good for youcoin."
mircea_popescu: mostly "students". recall the chick being educated over phone ?
trinque: nah they're baristas that teach yoga and but really someday my (obscure pointless hobby) will be discovered on etsygogo
mircea_popescu: just about. 20yos too lame to fuck being kept busy so nobody has to notice they're actually too lame to fuck.
mircea_popescu: trinque they're hysterical with the self-identifying, too. "i do x-with-y dorkitude". you know, like "i'm a doctor". "i paint seashells with nail polish"
mircea_popescu: oh, THAT'S what you do. how about when you're not being 5, what do you do then ?
trinque: met a chick in portland that literally made cat bowties
trinque: not out of cat, mind, but for them
mircea_popescu: and AT FIRST i thought she's the tits, because hey, seemed like she's aware of a by now 20 yo mockery of the exact genre.
mircea_popescu: but no. she was playing gorge's accountant girlfriend straight for chrissakes
mircea_popescu: had me going for a while, you know, cause obviously my retort was "what do you do when it rains"
mircea_popescu: and she went "oh, they're art silly, you hang them on the wall"
mircea_popescu: it is neither endearing nor harmless. it is animal abuse.
mircea_popescu: animals are not your fucking "companions" anymore than you're an oil rig.
trinque: nah you let people be inane by themselves too long, they get self-important and will return to foist it upon you
mircea_popescu: mkay. 1. animals don't matter. ducttaping around a chicken and fucking it for fun is not animal abuse ; 2. people are at the center. imagining the chicken is your companion IS animal abuse, in that you abuse the animal.
mircea_popescu: ie, chicken CAN be fucked in the manner described ; but chicken CAN NOT be your companion.
mircea_popescu: do you see the difference between trying to use transformer as capacitor and trying to use transformer as father ?
mircea_popescu: former is starvation behaviour ; latter is retardation behaviour. starvation of a different kind, of a different part. no blood supply to brain.
mircea_popescu: depends for whom. syphilis and staphilococcus infection also difficult to distinguish, for layman.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-14 15:34 mircea_popescu: for it to count it can't be denied, which comes down to, because michael flynn contains nothing, encryption doesn't help him in any way.
phf: multitran has gotten completely useless, it gives grip, shank and tang, though the last two are the metal parts (at least in case of knives)
phf: i was curious. mt uses to produce pretty accurate translations that i would not have guessed, but it's been wikipidiotized at some point, so now it gives every single possible relevant translation
mircea_popescu: anyway. the point being, for the anglos, that the axe is the tool you use to chop down forest, and the axe handle is made of wood.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-16 14:24 mircea_popescu: that phone is the palpable (it has to be! hipsters don;'t have souls), certain mark of apartenence. they are people too, because of that phone, you see ?
phf: well it's like with fpgas. once you have complete documentation, it means there's no possible way to get the thing
mircea_popescu: i thought there's a service where you send them your mangled/burned/whatever bills and they credit it to your account.
phf: pretty sure every "hacker's top toolz" cd from gorbushka had an nfo file describing this hack
phf: i suspect the cds predate the "here kid". they would also contain current issues of phrack. the thinking is probably "i'm going to pad it with every single thing i could find on my upstream BBS"
phf: hehe, you left too early. those cds were like a boy's treasure trove box. you never knew what you're going to get, but every one of them promissed mystery ~and delivered!!!~
phf: so you missed out on "10000 best games!! (for DOS)" cds too
phf: you'd basically save your change and not buy a piece of pastry three of four times during lunch, so you could pick up one of those beautise
phf: nah, full blown games, not shovelware. typically rar'ed and gotten through the most brutal of scene strips, so no cutscenes, no cd audio tracks, typically pre-cracked
phf: which also meant that some guys were forever unobtanium. like phatansmagoria, i saw it at a "legit" computer store once, but didn't get to play until i could lift it off tpb years later
phf: i think there was this famous doom-like, that came out before doom, but otherwise it seems like all were either ports from dos, or else ported to dos
phf: i briefly had an account on a mac warez server, that you could only connect to using a mac os 9 exclusive tool (in 2010!)
phf: but it was all mostly "creative professional" tools. audio, dylan/lisp stuff, hypercard
phf: i've been trying to track down whole earths catalog hypercard for a while, but so far unsuccesfully. haven't tried hard enough though
phf: hmm, battery about to expire. afk
mircea_popescu: toast almonds. straight out of the oven, nice and HOT put them in old style glass, pour cognac on top.
mircea_popescu: phf no cutscenes and no cd audio tracks was the standard for my gaming experience. tbh i liked it.
mircea_popescu: i also prefer older formats for movies. was only last week screaming at girl, "stop getting movies over 650mb. it is enough."
mircea_popescu: fucking 7gb monstrosities they do nowadays. like i really have to see the unwatchable crap in high definition.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeat they don't quite live to expectation huh.
mircea_popescu: i for first time saw mm7 cutscenes recently. they're pretty idiotic.
mircea_popescu: then again, diablo 2 notably got to keep its cutscenes. so i think it was very much an aesthetic decision.
mircea_popescu: yes i'll get archival copy of stuff i like. amusingly, 99% of which doesn't exist in better resolution anyway. wtf am i going to do with an archival copy of cat on the hot tin roof, watch the original artefacts in preference of the modern ones ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but of what. i had "high res" scan of andalou dog in my hands, the real mccoy. 99% compressed it looked exactly the same the original's just that bad.
mircea_popescu: ~nobody knows because hey, "trade secret", but the shape of the old celuloid vaults is beyond sad.
mircea_popescu: thousands of films pre technicolor are alread yloist ; the few remaining kinda going that way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes it's well known by people in the know. nobody else, becauyse hey, nytimes has a lifestyle section.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect you're right. of course, a nation that deliberately destroys the memory of competence in the hopes of making life more comfortable for itself merely succeeds in making death that much closer. but that's another tale.
mircea_popescu: multiple incidents, including a large and quite deliberate bonfire.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, apparently bitpay will not show you the bitcoin address unless you provide them with an email address.
mircea_popescu: i recall they cut staff at some point. haven't pulled the plug yet evidently.
mircea_popescu: i guess one box, one man and his red stapler in an office building basement somewhere do yet survive.
mircea_popescu: but hey, at least it drives adoption for ben_vulpes 's thing
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: No matches found.
Reuel: Hey guys, how come deedbot spits out article urls every know and then? Is it like an ownership registration?
mircea_popescu: it follows v arious rss feeds, like trilema's, qntra's, phuctor's etc
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BingoBoingo: wishes unnecessary with presents like that link
ben_vulpes: and a hispanic for labor secretary! so racist!
shinohai raises a glass of hot tea in BingoBoingo's honor
mircea_popescu: re bitpay earlier. and generally speaking, expecting the y-shitonator bitcoin "infrastructure" simply going away by the end of the year isn't exactly misplaced.
mircea_popescu: (depending how capable one is re bitcoin network, you might be able to see they tried to relay it starting ~26 hours ago, but plenty of places didn't even hear about it until ~6 hours ago).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't think the content of the rt link may have happened in angloverse.
mircea_popescu: check it out, judge "giving chance" ? what is this, a romantic comedy ? dork with no tits and no clue "giving another chance" for someone to be her meal ticket ?
mircea_popescu: 15yo marches downstairs, "i am giving you another chance to buy me a car"
mircea_popescu: bitch, if and when i feel like buying you a new pair of sneakers i know where the shop is and where i keep my money.
a111: Logged on 2014-08-31 18:52 asciilifeform: so, formula is: 'don't own. if you own, don't admit it. if you admit it, don't write about it. if you own and admit and write, don't sign your name. if you own, admit, write, and sign name, don't be surprised.' (apologies to rev. t. reese.)
mircea_popescu: female state. it expects its victims to want to get shit done, and hence they came up with that.
mircea_popescu: repackaging of the ancient socialistoid idiocy, "oh, creative people just can't keep themselves from creating shit we can all eat" ; except it's "men can't sit put" now. whatevs.
mircea_popescu: i don't, specifically, but you run into them with some regularity when spelunking in court "records".
mircea_popescu: way way too common an occurence for there to be that few. shit's more common than murder, definitely.
mircea_popescu: i've not been reviewing prison records. but if you do - guaranteed steady supply of wtf.
mircea_popescu: for instace : more than half of the people doing time at any specific moment are NOT actually convicted of anything.
mircea_popescu: merely waiting for court system to get its shit together. average wait time well over 18 months.
mircea_popescu: and yet they STILL sign the fucking plea bargains, like the idiots that they obviously are.
mircea_popescu: lol multiple years. multiple centuries, like in austrian empire.
mircea_popescu: afaik da who doesn't get plea bargains > 95% is fired.
mircea_popescu: which is the fucking point. ONE non plea-bargain item ruins his month. do that.
hanbot: asciilifeform> hanbot: first apply the basic litmus: does the thing eat rpc commands while blackholed ? yepper, eats. no malleus. meanwhile has caught up without restart, and meanwhile also noticed my addnode medley's outdated.
BingoBoingo: ty asciilifeform for the linkpresent, and others for the wishes
BingoBoingo: Also ty President Trump for the lulzy press conference
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Trying, may just plop transcript in a block quote
BingoBoingo binging on cake today. I am powerless over cake and my lyfe is still pretty manageable.
ben_vulpes: $girl has been probing for the caek i will eat. so far, not much success.
ben_vulpes: and moreover if anyone had heard of usg.intel doing it as well, that's a) fake news b) old news and c) standard diplomatic behavior...for us