mod6: oh fwiw, like we discussed, I also added a "multiple roots found, continue?" question for the user.
mod6: ben_vulpes: i like how wotpaste works in lynx btw.
mod6: weird. must be within error tolerance eh?
mod6: re: question for the user to proceed with multiple roots; this adds a level of annoyance. thoughts?
mircea_popescu: myeah. rather than "proceed yes/no" it shouldask you which genesis you mean.
mircea_popescu: are we going to go through this whole thing every single fucking time someone brings it up ?
mircea_popescu: so we'll have semantic difference between press and flow now./
mircea_popescu: why not add the outside temperature to the flow. it'll be better that way.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-29 05:54 mircea_popescu: lol ahahaha wait, derpy left narrative is now that random judge can STAY an executive order ?
mircea_popescu: if only people knew activist judges can stay executive orders, how much fun obamacare'd have been\
mircea_popescu: pity earth sciences hadn't discovered this golf cross pattern earlier.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what one must be smoking to imagine this will ever occur, but hey.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as derpy slum-dwellers with delusions of participation and importance believe it does, more power to 'em.
mircea_popescu: next congress is going to pass a debt ceiling or something.
mircea_popescu: look, at the height of bushomania the dude's breaking-the-law dept was declaring on its website that "they obey the laws". and nixon's, idem. because wtf are they going to be, men ? the next mp, state "take it an shove it" plainly like that ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile all sorts of dorks can importantly say whatever they please.
mircea_popescu: the chances of black person without a twenty dollar bill making it in the us today is ~0.
mircea_popescu: all the judges in the world gathered in conclave can do jack shit about this ground fact.
mod6: Hm. Well, maybe I'll take out the check then. And it's really up to the operator.
ben_vulpes: dear lispers, what would compel someone to put a defpackage form inside an eval-when?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> hey i genuinely disagree that power saw needs an 'am i sawing finger' sensor. << Ideally saw operator has said sensor
adlai: ben_vulpes: literally nothing: "If a defpackage form appears as a top level form, all of the actions normally performed by this macro at load time must also be performed at compile time."
adlai:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598739 << it's in more than one volume of taocp, but "discusses" is a drastic overstatement. he just gives a few "port the aforementioned binary algorithm" exercises. if you're still curious - it's in "Seminumerical Algorithms"
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 23:33 gabriel_laddel_p: also, if you could locate the precise knuth book where he discusses balanced ternery, and then find me a warez copy, that would be useful
gabriel_laddel_p: !!rate adlai -10 0/10 on homework. Reposts known information in an attempt to appear useful
gabriel_laddel_p: !!v 133C6F826EB544F8CB0A159F0A216E4491D9D56EE21251A43B3B5B57BB1771C7
deedbot: gabriel_laddel_p rated adlai -10 << 0/10 on homework. Reposts known information in an attempt to appear useful
gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, I have a copy of that volume and don't need a link.
gabriel_laddel_p: A task for anyone who has the time: people have recently (re?)discovered that when you run visible light into a "nanomaterial" with a "grating" whose components are less than the wavelength of light, you get interesting effects.
adlai should start a collection of these
netmonk: cash restriction proposal from European commision
netmonk: In view of the development of cryptocurrencies and the existence of other means of payments ensuring
netmonk: anonymity, an option could be to extend the restrictions to cash payments to all payments ensuring anonymity
netmonk: (cryptocurrencies, payment in kinds, etc.).
mircea_popescu: netmonk hey, it worked so well for india... and moreover socialist "europe" SO VERY MUCH wants to be just like india that i'm not at all surprised.
mircea_popescu: the above being the ENTIRETY of "usg cyberwarfare capacity" by the way. that it got idiots (schneier, koch, weimer etc), to write software that sets p as password everywhere independent of user input and then ten million imbecile lusers to use that "because it's what everyone does" where everyone is so defined to exclude everyone sane.
mircea_popescu: but, be that as it may, overflows are actually republic/other fiats speciality. it's how the usg gets owned in general.
mircea_popescu: she did this, no matter how stupid, because usg told her to ; and when usg says, she does, no matter how stupid. this is the core of her identity, she's not a woman, or a person, or a mother, or anything. she's, first and foremost, good soviet ; and anything else to the degree there's space (and usg tells her to).
mircea_popescu: "i was in the situation room" hillaric clinton's case was no different ; just that in the case of that old hag / usg asset nobody is interested in ass.
mircea_popescu: so then, this exact idiocy repeats itself time and again. 1. usg.apple tells ustards to use $item-which-sets-all-passwords-as-p-independent-of-user-input ; 2. ustards do. 3. republic owns them, and puts them to whatever use more adequate to their tard genes, such as fap fodder, lulzcow, whatever. 4. the usg comes up with a color of your bits "goes without saying".
mircea_popescu: that's the whole comedy, and it's playing again and again and again and again. republic decides us elections ? usg claims putin did it!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the discussion re apple/"apple" recently ?
mircea_popescu: usg does not exist and is not held here to signify anything but the "collective abject idiocy" aka "the female mind" aka "the community consensus" etc. it is specifically NOT the case that there exists something even vaguely in the vein you think of (ie, a powerful and directed, self-conscious usg, the "lizard hitler" or such)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-31 18:18 mircea_popescu: "apple", does it make it better if it's "apple" in quotes ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-25 16:10 asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'US urged Britain to keep Trident blunder secret. Obama administration ‘feared missile failure put American nuclear deterrent at risk’.'
mircea_popescu: they have all the self-determination of the average ferret : if you keep hens in a henhouse it will try and sometimes succeed to get in and suck blood off a few of them. that's it and that's all. there's no ferret poetry, no ferret philosophy, no ferret tools even. exactly like in the case of any orcs, if you see them wearing armor or wielding actual weapons as opposed to "random shit they found in their immediate surrounding
mircea_popescu: s" you know there's a human somewhere helping them. because they, on their own power, are not capable. monkeys, entirely.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-30 15:05 asciilifeform: i suspect that reduction to practice is nontrivial.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 14:31 mircea_popescu: japan got buldozed chiefly because of the utterly immoral attitude of thinking people at the time.
mircea_popescu: amusingly the whole "he's black so of course he knows what he's doing" thing in the 70s (which yes, was an actual thing in the heads of all the retarded jew princesses, sarah schneiders of their time both felt they're personally insufficient and imagined they can find the missing parts on their own)
mircea_popescu: is a fine example in this vein. womenz keep looking around for men, can't find any.
mircea_popescu: so it is with the orcs, and so it is with all the inferior life.
mircea_popescu: it's necessarily more abundant than what it lacks ; and it does after a fashion shamble about looking for a head to screw on
mircea_popescu: from the perspective of the dogvomit these aren't meaningfully different.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I was not. And presently have no ideas as to how this would be done in jungle conditions.
gabriel_laddel_p: I wonder how hard it would be to "brain parasite" a community college..
gabriel_laddel_p: ftr, I was asking if there are comparable effects at EM frequencies other than visible light. I presently have no use for said technology, though it would be fun to replicate.
mircea_popescu: not anymore. that worked then because relatively rare written production.
mircea_popescu: there's an overproduction of written material today ; writing something of that nature is exactly akin to braying in the public market. it helps no one and degrades a scarce resource.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm not designing an atomic dirigible. I'm catching up on all the learning I've forsaken over the past four years to build Masamune. Yes, the eventual goal is to make a lispm, but it isn't as if I'm skipping meals to do CPU design.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol fabulous, he's dropped that to find a deeper fold to retreat into. who's gonna tell him he's wasting his time NAO BITCH!!!1
mircea_popescu: dude, just because you're male doesn't imply you should try and emulate ascaris lumbricoides.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel_p you're going the wrong direction. you don't need something MORE abstract to dick around with.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-30 16:43 gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm not designing an atomic dirigible. I'm catching up on all the learning I've forsaken over the past four years to build Masamune. Yes, the eventual goal is to make a lispm, but it isn't as if I'm skipping meals to do CPU design.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo plox to PM regarding possible submission when available thx
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
gabriel_laddel_p: I was adding support for shapefiles and svgs earlier today because the "base layer" of masamune is complete, and I can now rely on it to grow with me moving forwards.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally i fully expect whoever does the graphing work to end up with the core of what will be tmsr sexpr svg in the end.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I'm updating an incomplete svg parser someone else wrote + tying it to open government datasets.
gabriel_laddel_p: .svgs are essentially paths you can feed to CLIM:DRAW-POLYGON*
gabriel_laddel_p: shapefiles are heathen nonsense, but it turns out they can be easily converted to json, which CL has plenty of parsers for.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gabriel_laddel_p 1 at 2016/12/01 18:38:14 << Crazed Cali Kid, but at least banging his head against a goldmine rather than a brick wall.
mircea_popescu: !!rate gabriel_laddel_p -1 turns out the appeal was mostly to bang the head.
mircea_popescu: !!v 28C3E30ED398C25E1278E3DA033B40FB223310615BBD27A87B3E2512D89559BB
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of gabriel_laddel_p from 1 to -1 << turns out the appeal was mostly to bang the head.
gabriel_laddel_p: mircea_popescu: Would you mind explaining why what I'm doing constitutes "banging my head"?
mircea_popescu: !~later tell gabriel_laddel_p review your record. what have you made that i currently use ? useful means useful, and you're not it. that you're not it in spite of allegedly being capable rather than because incapable does not speak in your favour ; but on the contrary.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, no, i did test it. the converter is cheap, which means cheap. low q optics.
mircea_popescu: perfectly adequate for even 10 meter long lines. i dunno why in my head it was "multikm"
mircea_popescu: if you're going to do this, better use led epoxy'd into laser cut (or sharp exacto knife cut) fibers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr i have nfi what gimp these people use, but it does not sound like anything i ever used.
mircea_popescu: the best advice for mactard is to walk away from the box ; for an hour, a day or ideally forever.
trinque: asciilifeform: top sekret project?
deedbot: walter_ voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: walter_: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
walter_: I quite didn't expect that question
deedbot: walter_ voiced for 30 minutes.
walter_: Hi all. Thanks for the +v. Missed this channel.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 13:54 walter__: phf, what's special about 2005 ThinkPads?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-05 14:07 mircea_popescu: in which vein, register a key first.
mircea_popescu: archive.org belongs the same place wikipedia.org belongs.
mircea_popescu: same place the written record left by the hittite empire went.
walter_: "the Lethe flowed around the cave of Hypnos and through the Underworld, where all those who drank from it experienced complete forgetfulness"
walter_: sorry not sure I understood
walter_: I'm too stupid for the puzzle. What's wrong with archive.org?
walter_: I'm archiving important stuff recently, and noticed trilema.com responses do not contain Last-Modified header. Is it on purpose?
mircea_popescu: though trilema articles don't actually change. do you mean the root ? or the comments ?
mircea_popescu: yeah '; what i'm asking is, are you trying to get a signal when there's new comments ? because otherwise trilema articles do not change.
walter_: oh, no. I'm using wget to save websites locally. It relies on Last-Modified to know if it should re-download the page.
deedbot: walter_ voiced for 30 minutes.
walter_: but it does, because the header is missing
walter_: from HTTP and wget perspective, I'd say yes
walter_: but this is so common in the internet to ignore Last-Modified that you could argue ;)
mircea_popescu: your tool i mean. since it's redownloading when it shouldn't.
mircea_popescu: if a website doesn't provide "last modified", is it logical to assume that it never changes or that it just changed ?
mircea_popescu: and if a girl is passed out, is it logical to assume she's not into getting laid, or that she's really wet for you, or also no way to tell ?
walter_: I'd say the proper way would be for articles to "change" when new comments are added, so the page would be re-downloaded
mircea_popescu: the problem would be that because of how the theme works with the recent comments thing all articles "change" whenever a new comment is added/
mircea_popescu: i dunno. in truth the maintenance of mp-wp is a bit in the air right now ; but if you want to make a patch by all means.
walter_: oh I get it now. There's a "recent comments" section that ruins the idea
walter_: I'm afraid I cannot patch a PHP website. I can only suggest that it gains the ability to respond Last-Modified, perhaps at the cost of removing the dynamic section (should be fine as a separate page)
walter_: that would allow to optimize syncing of local website copy with the origin
walter_: what I'm thinking is how to efficiently replicate and update a copy of a website, to protect from e.g. somebody taking down the site, and banning archive.is in my country
mircea_popescu: well, run a wget, you have the whole list of articles conveniently given in archives.
walter_: right. That's what I'm doing usually. The problem is updating for new articles. The "sync" takes thousands of HTTP requests
walter_: I usually add delays to not overload the server, so it runs quite long
mircea_popescu: there must be some way to tell wget to not get files you already have.
walter_: its doable even without Last-Modified
mircea_popescu: it's not just the recent comments ; headers change daily also.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-16 01:12 mircea_popescu: they're on a different domain, as per wordpress idiocy. and wget is apparently written by imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess in desperation bash script to curl for trilema.com/2016/ and then hit each article once.
mircea_popescu: "the tax that's not a tax" very psychiatrically sound.
mircea_popescu: it is safe to say the non-sanctioned republican party wll spend the remainder of its short, unappy life running for an ever more evanescent cover.
mircea_popescu: which isn't particularily surprising, who the fuck actually wants kerry or mccain.
trinque: so, it's gaining ground because an online "petition" ?
mircea_popescu: don't tell me you don't understand "how the world works".
mircea_popescu: they're gonna say it as if it's fact ; on the basis of the hordes of idiots they spawned not being capable of distinguishing fact from writ from fiction. if it catches on good ; if not the "democrat" socialist horde has no memory anyway, so they'll be right there next week importantly sprouting a novel ream of nonsense. as if it were fact ; as if they mattered.
trinque: by now "we did it, reddit!" has leaked into every other rag on the net
mircea_popescu: then walter_ is gonna ask me about standards, apparently on the basis of his impression that such a thing as standards can even exist without l1 signing off.
mircea_popescu: because, of course, "Sepan los nacidos y los que van nacer que nacimos para vencer y no para ser vencidos."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: incredible that we're still stuck fighting the fucking spanish. won't these idiots just go die already ? they fucked up an empire five centuries ago ; they're still here looking for gifted empires to fuck up.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: BBQcoin to my knowledge still "exists"
BingoBoingo: But the shitlords at the UN took their seat away and gave it to the Chicoms!