snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:24:51 hanbot:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936285 << more's the point is that your "household" consists of a WoT non-entity (afaik, actually. is it?) that may or may not be just as clueless about saying something here if you get a touch of The Butt. aesthetipolitical bents, righteous as they may be, pale by comparison.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:10:54 mircea_popescu: and speaking of
http://trilema.com/2019/concedo-hoc/#comment-131427 : i'm pretty sure i read trinque referring to the laughable playdates of the menalone as "wankastery" / "wankasteries", as a transparent adjustment of monastery to more truthfully reflect its real function
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:15:54 mircea_popescu:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936596 << i imagine the ~perceived~ pressure on nameless womanhood is quite immense, "omfg, what do i say, what if they make fun of me, they're gonna say i never installed linux from scratch as if it implied i'm half a dead man riding about on half a dead rabbit!!!"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-07 14:22:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:53:54 mircea_popescu: NEGOTIABLE.
trinque: asciilifeform: per exactly that.
trinque: isn't loc though. you have a finite amount of exposure to nonsense before you kill someone else, kill yourself, or go mad.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 19:54:58 hanbot: yo trinque, deedbot doesn't like hanbot-abroad's attempts to register with a pubkey pasted to paste.deedbot.org (Import failed), ideas?
trinque: so yeah, it's not going to let you make another.
auctionbot: Buy order # 1059 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: BingoBoingo
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:07:56 asciilifeform: trinque: hypothetically might be interesting to see what programming greybeards are like on planet where can eat 9000 loc w/out breathing in nonsense dust. but i haven't been to that planet.
mircea_popescu: besides nonsense dust there;s also joy dust ; they could in principle balance out ; literature as a body of work (though mostly in french, somewhat in latin, defo not in english besides a few hundred pages) achieved that ; "computer programming" never did.
mircea_popescu: it's conceivableone day might. math very much did manage, but only as of 1905 or thereabouts! at that point it had been around for twenty five to thrity centuries!
mircea_popescu: if indeed the relation's extensible, then from the fact that literature was born balanced and math balanced in say 2500 years, we can reasonably expect computerism to also balance in 6`250`000 or thereabouts, meaning more or less year 6`250`950.
mircea_popescu: this may seem like a lengthy stretch, but in fact it quite is : linnaeus' own species only speciated about 3-400`000 years ago, the commitment contemplated here's five times what it took to have homo sapiens.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 00:29:18 trinque: so yeah, it's not going to let you make another.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:36:48 hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall we did have some ad-hoc interdict specced five years ago, is that it ? what's the situation re namesimilarity at registration ?
mircea_popescu: most recently yesterday : slut kicked out of car over specific failure, wept all the way home. lorry full of workers'd have cut her a deal just as we picked her up on the home stretch because well... she looks like the best hooker in town.
mircea_popescu: and before that, on the trip over to
castle, girly kneeling in the dirt by the side of the car in some rural parking lot attracted a... garbage truck! full of garbage men! who parked across and solicitously came over to inquire... whether she "ne
mircea_popescu: full ten years ago, at a wedding, where i was the godfather and took chet to be godmother, the ~other pair~ of godparents (romanians do this groom / bride big/small wedding godparents thing) were these average middle class 30something couple. and the dude finally got sufficiently drunk at the party so as to propose to her! assuring her of his protection and etcetera! in a slurred drunk nonsense, and with his fucking wife r
mircea_popescu: ight there, growing all shades of purple-pale & stacojiu, thrown from disbelief to rage an' dipped in all possible torment.
mircea_popescu: schmuck was gonna protect her from me. at the time you could not find a gun in ten counties surroundant who hadn't been
on my payroll at some point or another, but he was gonna "protect", with his soccer watching crew an' leased toyota.
mircea_popescu: and this was an old blind woman. but apparently it's not the age and it's not the anything else in that vein.
mircea_popescu: come to think of it, the full ten years ago is actually fifteen. whoa time passes.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:05:33 mircea_popescu: besides nonsense dust there;s also joy dust ; they could in principle balance out ; literature as a body of work (though mostly in french, somewhat in latin, defo not in english besides a few hundred pages) achieved that ; "computer programming" never did.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:06:25 mircea_popescu: it's conceivableone day might. math very much did manage, but only as of 1905 or thereabouts! at that point it had been around for twenty five to thrity centuries!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, well, not deceased afaik, but kinda retired at about the same time. i did my thesis with him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i don't count the ustards as part of culture. saying "math died because mamie in chicago" is entirely like saying "medicien died because mamie in zimbabwe"
mircea_popescu: it's always "everywhere" dood, wtf do you think newton's complaint was.
mircea_popescu: anyway, orig dude should be... well, just about 80 by now
mircea_popescu: anyways -- re miners : the great (really, only) advantage of working with the mind is that the coal dust and the wage are made of the same exact substance
mircea_popescu: here, and nowhere else, it may indeed be possible the wage of unsin is undeath.
mircea_popescu: everywhere else... not so much. hence the appeal, since the day of plato
BingoBoingo:
And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This has been done plenty of times before. The kids cry about Microsoft hiring a pedophile enabler, Microsoft kicks Stallman out to the street again. For all the dancing and noise Stallman maybe gets 18-36 hours of cot in the hallway.
BingoBoingo: The kids and cucklets will say he instead confessed.
BingoBoingo: Until it's their turns to get sacrificed as the cultural revolution marches on.
BingoBoingo: I suspect English doesn't allow "controlled burns" in the way Mandarin does
BingoBoingo: Bulls still cripple the occasional farmer who turns their back. Grain lifting augers maim quite a few farmers.
The fallout from Gawker et al. is that there isn't really much farming going on at the left farm.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mandarin allowed honoring Mao-think as a sort of A/B test, and allowed the revision to be popularly embraced. Something about Mandarin lets the Chinese be cohesive on just about anything. It's weird, alien, and seems rather far removed from what is in the Anglo language toolbox.
BingoBoingo: It's also possible they don't manage to replace. FSF/OpenSource oppress poor artisan app studios, etc
BingoBoingo: Well they gotta fuss now because Epstein is THEIR mess.
BingoBoingo: And so they gotta purge the accesory organs first. Just *maybe* that way they can save their Cintonium core.
mircea_popescu: i find it quite funny this coincidentallies with discussions of leucosis.
BingoBoingo: Well, the KGB eventually did get Putin to do a sorta Make Russia Great Again
mircea_popescu: whole rms thing and what i suppose is here the continuation.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And Clinton sold Uranium to Russia. People trade in the metals all the time.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:26:32 BingoBoingo:
And they, the cucky cocklets will probably just ignore this case, which should enter the canon, of why males can't survive the decision to align themselves with a "leftist" movement. If they live long enough their ideological spawn will eat them.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:32:04 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: betcha microshit already cleared out a hallway corner for mr mushroom.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:33:41 asciilifeform: for so long as there's a gaggle of idjits who see him having 'auctoritas', his formaldehyde-pickled hide is worth sumthing.
BingoBoingo: I don't see Putin's shift in US-relations as coming too late. US was very committed to blowing its Cold War winnings in Iraq. WTF was Russia to do other than work on the S-400 anti-"Shock and Awe" system and let the US burn treasure on everything else.
mircea_popescu: that was his one remaining utility, that we'll supposedly give a shit.
mircea_popescu: this is a werid q, if i published it why yo uask and if i did not how you know ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:38:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: exactly like the chinese cultural rev. (which shut off like a lamp when mao flicked switch) this one is a 'controlled burn'.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The missiles themselves may be incremental improvement, but the major point is anti-stealth radar picket it plugs into.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-01-16 14:33:06 asciilifeform: one of the reasons i still, despite everything, have > 0 respect for rms, is that of all of these figures, he never had 'about-face' moment.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make the point for the 9`000th time in the general, because unlike the previous 8`999th times prior, each exactly proven correct and each exactly disavowed the very next morning, THERE IS NOTHING CONTROLLED ABOUT INCA WORLD.
mircea_popescu: the one important property of the failure of mankind is its complete and utter incapacity for any controlling of anythin whatsoever, internal or external.
mircea_popescu: the sun's not a controlled burn, but natural phenomena ; and the fermentation of the dregs of humanity, the dumbest women, the cuckest dorks, the socialists and morons and agglomerated stupidity -- exactly same.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-06-02 06:48:29 a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 16:24 mod6: asciilifeform: I'm just trying to put together the monthy address; In one to three sentences cna you help me summarize what is going on with glibc/libnss?
mircea_popescu: well, conceivable we search better once we get the historical bundle, afaik this is prior to your logs ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:39:40 asciilifeform: cattle stampeding (all the way into meat plant conveyor) aint 'cattle running the farm', the farm is still a farm and farmer is still the farmer, and meat still grown for market.
mircea_popescu: it's unclear in what similar. those people were getting laid.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:48:51 asciilifeform: this being said -- will be interesting to see which 'bob beck' is crowned as 'new rms'.
BingoBoingo: As the boomers used to say "Don't trust anyone over 30" is how they keep the purges rolling
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that is a similarity without substance, much like saying "dentist and opera writer similar, they ask others to vocalize"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:45:46 asciilifeform: 'old age & treachery beat youth & vigour erry time' or how did it go.
mircea_popescu: in general, the "sons of the gulag" will rule rather than the "sons of red guard" because both oppression and posterity are generally the lot of the more numerous.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the state of the US left is such that the ONE anti-war candidate did not make the latest round of primary debates. Tusli Gabbard: veteran, active reservist, and woman of color can't consistently poll over 2% enough to get on stage
mircea_popescu: it's also a red herring : it's generally
the orphans that rule. at the very least since modern era, because fathers suck balls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i can't conceive how the pantsuit will manage to get a candidate. for one thing, trump did in fact end the dnc, as discussed in the logs.
BingoBoingo: In other intra-left dialectics: "Maduro: "Cualquiera que diga que Venezuela es dictadura es un estúpido, incluido Mujica""
mircea_popescu: looking at the matter from an in-universe fiction perspective, how the fuck's the collection of nobodies gonna enact identity ? they can't get behind any of themselves, they're all scum without exception as paradigmatic criteria.
mircea_popescu: they'll just sit and whine at unfairness of elections in general, "why should there be candidates"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ghostships eventually touch land one final time. Whether the land is seafloor or shore depends
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:55:10 asciilifeform: ( why nao cement -- i have nfi. it aint as if anyffin was ever likely to rise outta that grave. )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's two folks running against trump in the Coke primary, none have gravity
mircea_popescu can't be arsed to find the line, but w/e, was a one day wonder, "knows shit" in his own opinion retard.
BingoBoingo: That the DNC is dead doesn't mean surviving hangers on won't try to put on a show
mircea_popescu: not that THAT moron didn't hold the same laughable handshake "beliefs".
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 13:57:22 BingoBoingo: And so they gotta purge the accesory organs first. Just *maybe* that way they can save their Cintonium core.
mircea_popescu: we fucked her in all the holes last time, leaving her a broken heap. and she was already fucking old.
mircea_popescu: there's... nothing there, demented morons collecting garbage.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> we fucked her in all the holes last time, leaving her a broken heap. and she was already fucking old. << How could the derealized know?
mircea_popescu: the problem with being on heroin is that you never really escape the inkling of actual reality.
mircea_popescu: same thing with being in the pantsuit, cry yourserlf to sleep as you will each night, the perception of mp grinning's still always there
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:54:41 BingoBoingo: Anyways, the state of the US left is such that the ONE anti-war candidate did not make the latest round of primary debates. Tusli Gabbard: veteran, active reservist, and woman of color can't consistently poll over 2% enough to get on stage
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:44:51 mircea_popescu: anyway, to make the point for the 9`000th time in the general, because unlike the previous 8`999th times prior, each exactly proven correct and each exactly disavowed the very next morning, THERE IS NOTHING CONTROLLED ABOUT INCA WORLD.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gabbard was at one point a DNC CHAIR!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:24:33 asciilifeform: '91 was simply culmination of this process, when pretense fell away.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-01 15:45:29 mircea_popescu: the "consummer affair" is the gringo's exact version of the "thinking man gave up", coming 2 decades later. (ie, next generation of ustards copied prev generation of soviets. like they always do, btw)
mircea_popescu: i should prolly have a better link, there's somewhere in the logs where we discuss this mystery, of why and wherefore soviet thinking man simply laid over and gave up in the 80s.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Tried to de-Clintonize too soon. The losers have to hate.
mircea_popescu: the flow of history doth in fact inform and ground the view, however. "what happened to phf ?!" is not so important about the one tard ; but rather, instructive as to the failure mode of a sort of mind.
mircea_popescu: i suppose what happened to all of them is the same thing : one day their derealization came home to roost, and they were so alienated from their own existence, they hadn't actually prepared for the event.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's not clear to me what you're asking above ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, far from "oh, kgb sold off sovok", the fundamental problem was simply that soviet man ~gave up~.
mircea_popescu: the thing it gave up on was garbage collected through whatever method. but the causative agent was THAT GIVING UP.
BingoBoingo: As DNC high elder Gabbard declared Clinton's brand too toxic to try rigging the game around. Was shunned. Then TMSR broke DNC couple months later.
mircea_popescu: but, to round it off : the substantial difference between 2nd socialism and 3rd socialism is that 2nd ~actually had enough substance~ to constitute something someone could give up ~on~.
mircea_popescu: its failure therefore, to my eye, is not in any sense meaningful, there's no zoon involved. it's pure and simple bion, a matter of fermentation rather than politics.
mircea_popescu: which is why the sun reference. there's no possible way the hydrogen atoms "could organize themselves" to do anything to or about the brown dwarf future. it's foretold, and will be exectued exactly at foretold, millions of years hence.
mircea_popescu: the italians were being administered by the house of habsburg, because they were idle imbecile fuckwits throughout their existence.
mircea_popescu: being idle imbecile fuckwits and regrettably still around as well they shouldnt', the italians deeply resented this situation, where the austrians administered them well as slaves, whereas they themselves couldn't, on their own strength, as much as organize a cup of coffee
mircea_popescu: the unfairness of this situation wasn't, mind, that they were imbeciles, but that ~it is unfair~ that ~THINGS SHOULD BE SO~!!!!
mircea_popescu: because they're "great people" in the sense of latins, 2k years prior, had been. so their team already won, why should they have to do work! REALITY IS UNFAIR!!!
mircea_popescu: to "fix" this by their own lights, they came up with a wad of poisonous inept bullshit, to their best estimation perfectly engineered to end -- not the world, not the need of the world to be managed, but the ~possibility of managing it~, in-universe fantastically called "habsburg rule'/
mircea_popescu: this fruited among the lesser barbarians in three places : in germany through cultural osmosis, producing the thing copied after musolini
mircea_popescu: in the us through the italian diaspora, producing roosevelt and his nonsense, "bipartisan state" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: and in the soviets, who copied it from the germans they defeated.
mircea_popescu: but, the birth of "altruism" is the red thread in the whole pile of idiotic italian nonsense : mid 1800s is where it all starts.
mircea_popescu: there wasn't a socialism before all that ; and there won't be a socialism in the future.
mircea_popescu: something like pantsuitism started in stone age, then man discovered pike
mircea_popescu: and pike changed society from matriarchy to patriarchy, because provided effectual control to female wail behaviour : poking with sharpened stick.
mircea_popescu: but, in general, pre-heroic age social degeneracy was resolved by early greeks.
mircea_popescu: pike really was much more important instrument than commonly realised. i would say it was the first AND FOREMOST man-made tool.
mircea_popescu: specifically because it puts the female herd in line, turning them from "free" to slave.
mircea_popescu: suppose i said "we can't afford to make new loggers yet again" ?
mircea_popescu: was alternative : goes to politburo, says "either you start hanging 10% of youth each year until they produce alternative, or else we can all hang today"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 15:23:12 asciilifeform: pike, seems , wasn't quite enuff, cuz it dun stab by itself, need pikeman with a bit of sense in his head
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this takes us back round to the question : why gave up ?
mircea_popescu: and yes, "to give up" as the reality is disguised in-universe, in the works of fiction populating stupid heads, as "can't"
mircea_popescu: "can't affort", "isn't proper", "this guy's abusive", what have you.
mircea_popescu: the question is WHY, not in their terms but in mine, as the onl ypermisible terms. not "why does the moron decide to misrepresent his taks as impossible", but "why did he give up"
mircea_popescu: this slippery slope of idiocy, "i really should have beaten the wife, but since i haven't, can't now beat daughter".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the failure in this thinking is that "smart boi wants to use his smarts in war".
mircea_popescu: the precondition to action is NOT some sort of evaluation whereby action's salutary, or effectual.
mircea_popescu: whether "you think it'll work" or not makes zero the fuck difference.
BingoBoingo: Anyways the "Qaseth-1" drones the Saudis got hit with seem pretty lulzy. Chicom mower engine, 250 km one-way range... and how useless was all hardware the US sold the House of Saud to stop them.
mircea_popescu: "selamgano.wordpress.com is no longer available. The authors have deleted this site." and the whole rest of the precious cuntlet / inca priestess.
mircea_popescu: "Then there was the challenge of arranging entry into building where The Register's US operation is based. Stallman asked not to be identified by name to the building staff to avoid the possibility that his name might end up in a database. "Resisting tracking of persons is everyone's duty," he explained. Meeting him in the lobby proved to be easier than working out how to ask front desk staff to admit an individual who cou
mircea_popescu: ld not be named. Eventually, we were able to get Mister Anonymous into the office, and the following conversation took place..." << keks.
mircea_popescu: hey hanbot where on trilema is that piece re the argentine retards with ~same problem ?
mircea_popescu: nah, was some building we were meeting i don't remembe rwhat local retard that had "security" at the door.
mircea_popescu: naah, was some business thing. back in the early days when i was still considering buying one of the tards skyscrapers or something.
mircea_popescu: nah, was very much wanna-be new york office building thing.
mircea_popescu: in other historical "news" : james was quite pleased with his new wife, mary of modena
mircea_popescu has for the past 15 minutes bee nreading a tardball of insanity... wtf is that thing BingoBoingo ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's an autism standard. Kinda like how France has an international kilogram standard. That tardball of insanity is the international autism standard of Virginia
BingoBoingo: Anytime someone says they are a "creative" I assume they are *that* dog on the internet until demonstrated otherwise
BingoBoingo: Nah, lobbes is Charlotte, North Carolina. US recycles place names a lot
mircea_popescu: ftr, by
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937123 i was discussing rms. "They seemed receptive in a general way. But you know, whether Microsoft will change anything in practice, remains to be seen. Maybe it will change some things and not others, right? That's often happens. But I believe in judging each thing that a company does separately. So if a company is doing this thing, which is wrong and unjust, a
mircea_popescu: nd this thing, which is helpful, I'd rather not add them up. If these two activities are separable in practice, in other words, if it's possible to look at each one, individually, and distinguish it from the other, if they're not tied up with each other, so much that that's a nonsensical thing to do, then I do that. Because that way, I can disapprove of whatever is bad and approve of whatever is good. That's more useful, j
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 16:54:29 mircea_popescu: dude's fucking unreadable.
mircea_popescu: ust adding it up to get one total for a given company."
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that leaving aside his damning failure to show up, rms wouldn't have made it five minutes in the forum on the basis of his absent culture, literacy or generally speaking working cns.
BingoBoingo: But yes, the absence of culture is a pre-requisite of elevation in the Incan insanity. Can't have "luminaries" tethered to the world or their place in it. MIT is more or less a sort of "day program" for "special" adults.
BingoBoingo: So what if they gotta call him a "visiting scientist" to get him to institutionalize himself?
mircea_popescu: anyways, i expect a lot more of this trotting out / reclaiming of puppets going forward. "hey tmsr, do you wanna follow THIS esca ? no ? oook [animal eats the fleshy appendage, grows "new" one], nevermind, how about THIS entirely different other on ? no ? *repeat*.
mircea_popescu: fun fact for rotards : andrea ESCA
is named for the fleshy bait atop an anglerfish head. didn't know thsat, did you.
snsabot: Logged on 2017-10-25 14:27:40 mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit the matter of
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728843 : adrian sirbu, possibly the only romanian to have done anything since 1989 (he created the deliberate usg tool Pro Tv in 1995, a media company whose wikipedia page no longer mentions him -- very much a successful equivalent of the failed
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048), has recently been accused of... you'll guess this not ?
mircea_popescu: in other historic lulz : in other historic lulz : it is altogether likely that the fifteen year old anne lennard had a lesbian relationship with hortense mancini, her father's unofficial mistress and therefore the competition of barbara villiers, the official mistress.
mircea_popescu: then when she was 17 she fucked her mother's bf, montagu