mircea_popescu: there's no actual reduction ; just an expensive, bug ridden implementation of half of usmail
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 22:15 asciilifeform: 'We submitted extensive information about our random number generator (RNG) to an independent organization. We asked this trusted resource to perform an in-depth analysis of the randomness of the output of the RNG, and its implementation in the shuffling of the cards on our platform.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this impression is borne out of lack of experience and no more. what, i'm going to assembly line phds ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 22:18 asciilifeform: this does not actually solve the problem of proving that the output of prng was not known in advance to one or more of the players.
mircea_popescu: the reason i kept trying to get him to be involved with things was exactly that he had good solutions to actual problems. but... never caught on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seed is a combo of site-produced TRNG entropy and player-set (with defaults if playher doesn't feel like setting). you can change your portion at any time.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: site publishes site + player, player can verify that published player = what he thought he was and that the sha results match (published)
mircea_popescu: concrete example : you set your seed to "i like chicks with small tits", site sets seed to "71c0891f45d65ff7"
mircea_popescu: then the first hand is played as 0c3dbf77a25ebe9733548266406161111522839d1d41f221070e59c361f6b2b0990df0606d143e90b1bb9ed1a9b39ff5fcf0ac153cc0e90297f1273076fcf38c
mircea_popescu: and then when the reveal occurs, you sha512(i like chicks with small tits71c0891f45d65ff7) and see.
mircea_popescu: and it doesn't work without withening ; or in other words : he intelligently used the otherwise useless whitening step as an assurance provider. was pretty clever move, esp considering the standard for intelligence at the time.
mircea_popescu: house uses the same hash for all players for the whole day.
mircea_popescu: again, this was for casino games, not poker. he never implemented multiplayer afaik.
mircea_popescu: anyway, we had a good solution with poker, but it never got implemented.
mircea_popescu: then they want to talk about "Gdp growth" and "technology". fuck them in the ass with a pike of stupid, there's no technology in north america, and no gdp growth.
shinohai likes how original satoshi BTC code haz built-in pokar room
mircea_popescu: nah, i don't recall what the site was called, but dice something.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why you're so fixated on poker, this was just early bitcoin business.
shinohai: It was the most recent hoaxtoshi, tried releasing code that is publicly available if one digs hard enough
shinohai: I mean *I* have a copy on my site
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 00:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this impression is borne out of lack of experience and no more. what, i'm going to assembly line phds ?
mircea_popescu: ah. you know you souind a little like a hooker ? "customer wanted to pay more for drinks so i figured what the hell, ima go home with him. am i fired ?"
mircea_popescu: "no, just come to work on heels and nothing else tomorrow"
mod6: haha, that was all over the place.
hanbot: Stanislav Datsokgivsky << straight outta that "Cheap Detective" Neil Simon parody where everyone east of the mississip is AdjectiveNounVerbski
mircea_popescu: oh is that the one where they mash casablanca, to have and have not, the maltese falcon etc together, leslie nelson style ?
mircea_popescu: the short dood with bad diction, was in a buncha tv detective shows
hanbot: iono, phtephen mcstature
ag3nt_zer0: Hello TMSR... trying to implement trb here. What is the proper way to "save the PGP public keys" before placing them in .wot? Do I simply copy the entirety of the text (including -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----) revealed at the link provided by deedbot, place that into a text editor, and then save as .asc?
mod6: name the files like, 'mod6.asc', 'asciilifeform.asc', etc.
mod6: you want to paste everything through '-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----'
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4864.01, vol: 17307.21357500 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4855.3, vol: 33254.43085696 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4882.03, vol: 5321.89464584 | Volume-weighted last average: 4860.54304793
deedbot: needhelpwithnode voiced for 30 minutes.
needhelpwithnode: basically i was lonely and was looking to have some human affection/love. So going back to home i converted an hidden amount of btc to 50 eur, cashed out at the ATM, and started to looking forward for Street hookers. I'm generally afraid to do it because if my country police catch you talking for business with a pro, there is a very big fine (500 e
needhelpwithnode: (this fine only applies to cheap Street prostitution, since the cool kids cannot morally stand an half naked woman doin her job, doin it at home is perfectly legit and no fine applies)
trinque: starting to see what node he wanted help with
needhelpwithnode: then appears this super cute girl (at least for my standards), she's 20, very hot romanian girl. Scared as fuck and proactively looking for police to eventually flee the zone, i approach her and she tolds me that for 30 bombs, she can have good time with me in the car
needhelpwithnode: i'm totally ok with the price, but only later, when we are in the car and she show me her just remade 7k euros fake titties, I realize that I'm an emotional guy and the vulva of this girl is not turning on me at all
needhelpwithnode: well but likes shared VPNs, with such prices you cannot have nothing to expect aside of the physical action
needhelpwithnode: she realizes that I'm not turned on, and then tells me: baby, I don't have much time to spend here cause i need to continue working
needhelpwithnode: I try to explain to her my delicate situation having her standing in front of my stomach. She try to fix the situation in a harsh way telling me "should i go up your little friend?"
needhelpwithnode: To cut a not too long story short: i just hugged her, and had no ejaculation of any kind
needhelpwithnode: well, after this I realized to have wasted 30 euros, but even more sadly, wasted bitcoin to have something that is really difficult and expensive to buy
mod6: shinohai: hey, thanks the donation Sir.
mircea_popescu: mostly for the lulzy "A team of four people hired by the nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center to serve Mr. Anglin with notice of a lawsuit accusing him of leading a troll army have failed. They scoured parts of Ohio, where Mr. Anglin is from, and talked to his brother; they went to his fathers counseling office; they drove around his sisters church. When they saw someone was home at an apartment affiliated with h
mircea_popescu: im, they staked it out. The fruitless search for him exemplifies the challenges that online harassment cases sometimes encounter.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but anyway, as per usual : the usg focusing on idiots, trying to build "legal precedent" on the basis of pursuing people too feebleminded to as much as find their way here.
mircea_popescu: then supposedly "as to the mentally retarded, so for everyone, tis teh caselaws!" or somesuch bullshit.
BingoBoingo: It's just what USG does. Brings everyone down to retard precedent.
BingoBoingo: In other lulz, Google, after inventing a holding company for itself 'Alphabet' has invented a holding company for that 'XXVI'
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 11:48 BingoBoingo: In other lulz, Google, after inventing a holding company for itself 'Alphabet' has invented a holding company for that 'XXVI'
deedbot: barpub voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 06:27 mircea_popescu: im, they staked it out. The fruitless search for him exemplifies the challenges that online harassment cases sometimes encounter.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. cuz they know he's an imbecile and dun wanna miss out on the presence ?
mircea_popescu: there's a composite value, and i suppose they're aware the "this is what our SOPS said nyah" portion is just about epsilon.
mircea_popescu: the "this dood we chose for not being mp -- isn't mp, so nyah, no mps do or can exist" portion is apparently what they're after.
mircea_popescu: amusingly this whole thing stems out of : some obnoxiouys pantsuit hag started harassing that spencer dude's mom, to get her to "disown" her son and donate his inheritance to the nigger fund or some shit. THAT part was a-ok ; but when this dork put some words on a website and as a result THOUSANDS of people told that woman what a shitstain she is, THEN it became scandalous.
mircea_popescu: because you know, how dare the pantsuit misbehaviours THAT ARE OH-SO SOCIALLY SUPPORTED not be socially supported at all!
mircea_popescu: so let's make a trial about not-that and be right about it vicariously!
mircea_popescu: (that being the idea here, the shit-piss-licker center isn't suing about "is it ok for a meg ryan wanna-be to try and defraud an old woman into giving her all the moneyz". it's suing about "is it ok for fraudster specializing in old women to be told off by the public if she's defrauding for the dnc!")
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but i can tell you the clinton foundation "gender" derps are well defunded.
mircea_popescu: cuban ministry "uhm... i'm pretty sure they were this way when we got 'em. americans with brain injury, amirite ?"
mircea_popescu: "To put the matter in simple terms : next time you get a "black chix code" itch and feel like vomiting your idiocy in the shape of "patches" and "code submissions", seriously consider writing strings on your tits instead. It's infinitely easier to clean up, and it ends up costing us less money! This is what true ecology is all about, ye ken ?"
mircea_popescu: but yes, by the time code costs a buck a line to NOT exist, i'm considering a bullet per "IT expert" "github developer" etc head would be way the fuck cheaper.
mircea_popescu: next 20 btc goes to bomb cars in bay area, not to fucking code cleanup.
mircea_popescu: !~google how many bomb cars could i buy for 100`000 dollars in san francisco
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. nevertheless, i can't shoot people in the past.
mircea_popescu: i gotta shoot people in the present so they don't befoul the future in the manner they befouled the present through existing in the past.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i'd very much like to kill the present crop of "it experts" "github developers" etc as babies if possible. rather than as adults.
mircea_popescu: imagine, you know, getting ian "debian was the early apple appstore" murdock into a terrible, decapitating bike accident at age 5, rather than waiting for him to be fucking forty and get it from its own team.
shinohai:
https://github.com/owocki/pytrader <<< "My test portfolio was initialized with a 1 BTC deposit, and after 2 months and 23,413 trades, exited with 0.955 BTC. The system paid 2.486 BTC in fees to poloniex."
shinohai: I'm sure the Baloney exchange appreciates these advances in AI and machine lurnin
a111: Logged on 2013-02-17 02:04 asciilifeform: zanz: I made 0.4 BTC (or 1.4 BTC, depending on how you count) using MPEX
shinohai: ^ heh that was when I was still doing my 6 month novitiate log reading
mircea_popescu: yeah, somehow all the abundance of "commentary", exploratory-creative as it is, fails to fucking mention "120k" actually means 70k post tax, and -5k post rent.
mircea_popescu: da fuck bitch, when i say make 120k i MEAN make 120k. wtf is this "hey, congrats on your 120cough70" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: the "oh, tax goes without saying" lulz is rapidly becoming the lightningrod of imperial dorkitude. really, bitch, tax ? and what else, gender fluidity ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how is that supposed to work anyway, like argentine's notion of rental agreements, "We decided to increase rent" ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i ever recounted that lulz, was a buncha dorks, "um... we would like more money" "that's nice. so would i"
mircea_popescu: i had nfi taiwan was cheap anyway. isn't that where they stack like sardines, moreso than in london ?
mircea_popescu: now, specifically re san francisco, it's not THAT much worse than london/moscow and way the fuck cheaper than shanghai.
mircea_popescu: 2-300k will buy you flat "in san francisco, where trains go"
mircea_popescu: yes, but your thinking is in the vein of free image association.
mircea_popescu: im sorry, flats in moscow are free of condo encumberments ?
mircea_popescu: resulted in place of employment being notified and you being pulled before the "Collective" for your "attitude".
mircea_popescu: moreover, nastygrams in communism aren't what you think, chiefly because there's no other plantation and nobody is allowed to own savings or live off them. just like in us.
mircea_popescu: which is how and wherefore all these doods keep shitting their pants, "o noes, mother is upset with me!!1"
shinohai: It appears if I ever want to learn Romanian, I'm just gonna have to find a girl to come live here about a year or so for immersion purposes.
shinohai: Sure, but shinohai learns languages faster when females are involved for some odd reason :)
shinohai: Nothing quite like having girl curse at you in foreign language whilst throwing dishes. It just sticks!
shinohai pages mats for rusty sapper's spade
mircea_popescu: anyway. the reason "chickenshit" and nobody cared about paying hoa in 1980 was that there wasn't anything whatsoever to do with the "money" anyway. much like in the us.
mircea_popescu: that's also how i was getting 20s whenever i felt like and so on. worthless govt paper.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 23:39 mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: a good tmsr-rsa signature write-up can't possibly hurt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider something like : 1. split item to sign into 512 byte blocks. create block 0 from rng. sign hash(block 0), hash(block 1 + hash(block 0)), hash(block 2 + hash(block 1 + hash(block 0))), and so following.
mircea_popescu: see, "any order" is not advantage because you have the original document to provide order ; and the "lose a few" works for enemy here, helps to fake sigs
mircea_popescu: moreover, the relevant "hashing" is when you can have signature shorter than document. neither scheme contemplates that.
mircea_popescu: so i'd propose it's not properly speaking hashing in that sense, to take 512 byte blocks and spit out 512 byte blocks.
mircea_popescu: there's no rule you must have collisions in this kind of hash function.
mircea_popescu: (if one's absolutely crazy can declare the function from 511 to 512 bytes, and then split all the packages into 511 byte blocks and hurr.)
mircea_popescu: anyway. proper tmsr-rsa-signing is still in need of some chewing.
mircea_popescu: one major point is that other than mpfhf which has been well implemented thanks to peterl, sina and ben_vulpes (and to some degree researched -- speaking of which, still cooking ben_vulpes ?), there's keccak which HASNT yet been implemented much ; and we really could use a fixed-block hash function that's any good.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: algorithmic hash function is nice ; accordeoning hash function is nice ; anisotropic hash function would be nice to have.
mircea_popescu: or how would you call "guaranteed bijective hash function" if not anisotropic
mircea_popescu: for one thing, you'd prolly want to run it on the ffa anyway
shinohai: Notice that happened after nist.gov declared their spec
shinohai: Maybe he'll use that BTC mp gave him to buy a pantsuit with.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-02 21:10 asciilifeform: oooh hey hey hey lbj. i finally found out why prb folx like schnorr.
kanzure: asciilifeform: i implemented a speech recognition system (tensorflow + keras + CTC loss scoring)
☟︎ kanzure: trained it on 80k hours of audio books. admittedly, 'machine learning' is 98% cargo cult bullshit.
shinohai: I'll just wait for the wikileaks, tyvm
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "tyvm" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 13:25 mircea_popescu: (that being the idea here, the shit-piss-licker center isn't suing about "is it ok for a meg ryan wanna-be to try and defraud an old woman into giving her all the moneyz". it's suing about "is it ok for fraudster specializing in old women to be told off by the public if she's defrauding for the dnc!")
shinohai: tl;dr is instagram had a "bug" that reveled user emails and phone #'s, several celeb accounts are up for grabs, in addition to random nobodies.
shinohai: Asi es ..... I din check out the tor www because, as you see in thread, he insists that one must "Enable javascript in tor browser for complete site functionality"
shinohai: I'm just curious to know if it is genuine item.
shinohai: Act now, and we'll throw in a phree facial bone from the head of St. John the Baptist.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 22:23 asciilifeform: since we're on subj, asciilifeform got the recently released ice40-8k (largest in the series) going. ( there's only 1 decent dev board for the 8k, the one released by olimex ~2wks ago )
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 15:38 asciilifeform: in very very other noose : the vendor's vga and ps/2 kbd demo verilog for ice40 builds and WORX
spyked has had a spike in spendings on hardware in the last ~3 weeks, but couldn't be helped
spyked: lessee. what do they use? JTAG?
spyked: ty asciilifeform! I have an arduino board somewhere, will try to get that working.
spyked: hm. why? problems getting it compiled and running? (the linux guide looks straightforward)
phf: i'm more asking what's missing from ice in comparison. flash memory, dram? etc.
phf: right, so ice is basically just the fpga with minimum amount of breadboarding, if we want to pipistrello gottta design our own
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 22:44 asciilifeform: phf et al : to briefly continue
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707895 -- picture an a4-sized plinth, of, e.g., 32 dimm slots. each can contain a card of sram, or alternatively of 4 ice40-8k's, or some peripheral ( e.g. nic magnetics. )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 12:25 asciilifeform: but lattice per se is EXACTLY like xilinx, same profit model, closed arch, license 'ip cores'. their larger flagship fpga is exactly like xilinx 'spartan', full of proprietary peripherals, and that's the one that tends to get packaged into devboards with nic etc
phf: this is beyond me at this point. i'm mostly trying to understand various initricasies of cadr fpga-ing, i'll revisit this thread later
phf: right, it already does (board above). i was curious if there's a porting out strategy, but your answer explained the situation
phf: i didn't notice it, but i'll look next time i build
spyked: also, synthesis of open source icestorm toolchain might be somewhat less efficient than closed source? (just a wild guess, maybe not)
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 19:40 asciilifeform: try it and see.
spyked: no idea why they need clang. but I see your point
phf: i'd say it's more like 80s lego and modern lego (if you haven't seen, now it's all >50% custom per-toy parts, that can be snapped to a traditional lego coupling, but otherwise non-universal)
☟︎☟︎ spyked: anyway, don't see why toolchain would need github deps. can fork and sanitize
spyked: aha! so gotta lispify the toolchain. this sounds like a nice project
phf: right, that's the first thought when you have your cadr up. "oh wait, i need to go fuck around with xilinx tooling to make any kind of changes here)
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 16:51 asciilifeform: holyshit the original keccak www is gone
mircea_popescu: Guido Bertoni, Joan Daemen, Michaël Peeters, Gilles Van Assche and Ronny Van Keer << might as well dump the list of bernsteins that'll have to explain themselves.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 17:23 asciilifeform: betcha the man wears 'gott mit uns' belt buckle, he does.
mircea_popescu: or however you'd spell a portmanteau of psychology and physiognomy.
mircea_popescu: you realise you'd prolly hang all my whores for "hanging out with enemy, AND wrong garterbelt buckles" if you had to manage the thing ?
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, did i ever recount my sad encounter with another man's electronics lab, as a 6 yo ?
mircea_popescu: so i was about six, and a bright young adorable kid with blond curls that proposed to my parents' friends' wives. marriage i mean. and even bit one.
mircea_popescu: and this guy who was an amateur electronist died, and he actually LEFT me his lab! which included all sorts of things, glassware from pre war and such.
mircea_popescu: now at the time we are writing about, "electronics hobbist lab lightbulb" meant a fixed, all-identical, standardized thing. gost like. every kid in school could recognize the item, "this is lightbulb". same for 4.5V 3-cell-in-paper battery and so on. identical, you understand ? (and same for all girls underweasr and all people's flats and furniture in them and so on)
mircea_popescu: now this man... he had a set of 9V lightbulbs. and so as any good respectable citizen i sat down with the dead man's dragon pile, to TEST everythiung I got. yes ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now the lightbulbs, connected to the standard battery, did not light up. but only ever slightly orange in the filament.
mircea_popescu: so i threw it away. and piucked another one. same thing. so i scream-ask my mom, across the flat, "mom, is a lightbulb that doesn't not light up thereby no good ?" "yes" she says, evidently using a different standard of "not light up" than mine.
mircea_popescu: and only realised the problem after the garbage had been taken out.
mircea_popescu: mind you don't end up as sad as me at six as an adult. it goes away a lot faster at that age.
mircea_popescu: no, i just concluded i was inept at standardization and speech generally.
mircea_popescu: possibly the event that made it impossible for me to be seriously racist in the usual sense.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> now the lightbulbs, connected to the standard battery, did not light up. but only ever slightly orange in the filament.
mircea_popescu: btw, you won't believe this, but for being the only house with incandescents on this mother-of-biodiversity hill i get like half the moths and consequently a third of the birds.
mircea_popescu: did i ever recount my theory as to WHY they seek the lights ?
mircea_popescu: this is my theory, which i name it my theory because i came up with it.
kanzure: asciilifeform: how fast can you run an inkjet valve, you foresee any problem with 1 MHz?
mircea_popescu: imagine there's a bunch of bugs spawned over an acre. to perpetuate, they must mate. how shall they encounter each other ? "wut if we used this waste light and have them all seek it ?" said engineer in charge of moth one day ? "they'll necessarily converge before they reach the moon".
kanzure: i don't need 100 MHz just >100 KHz, like 1 MHz
kanzure: acetonitrile, tetrazole, ammonia, 3-methoxypropionitrile, 2-methyl glutaronitrile, etc.
mircea_popescu: "anything you want ; not conducive if you don't want it to"
mircea_popescu: here's the bitch : conducive is corrosive for this application.
mircea_popescu: problem with this sorta gear is that it costs a billion.
mircea_popescu: kanzure your discussion maps on the inkjet vs bubblejet historical approach to printing.
kanzure: "bubble jet" seems to be canon trade name for inkjet
mircea_popescu: kanzure at some point someone came up with "charge the droplets, move elctrostatically, send them out with a quarz pump"
shinohai: In Soviet Russia, fluid vaporizes YOU
kanzure: much of the inkjet "literature" seems to be patents today. was injet peak hype in 80s?
kanzure: phosphoramidites and acetonitrile and tetrazole
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 17:24 kanzure: asciilifeform: i implemented a speech recognition system (tensorflow + keras + CTC loss scoring)
kanzure: depends on what you mean by work! it has like a 10-15% word error rate...
kanzure: i built out a voip demo for business conference call transcription
kanzure: wardials into random conferences and emails the participants the text at end of meeting
kanzure: depends on how much you care about quality; btw youtube already has captioning thing have you tried that?
mircea_popescu: there's 0 willingness to import empire bullshit into the workflow. they must be raped, even if they'd be willing.
kanzure: oh i should have warned you about that, sorry
kanzure: it's academia tho so you should not have had high expectations
mircea_popescu: lol are you going to end up with people doing spoilers for you alfie ?
kanzure: surely you're happy enough with opentrons
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 17:24 asciilifeform: my current impression is that d00d's duties were not originally connected to antibitcoin detail, but to keeping 'biohackers' and other DIY types well-surveilled by fbi , dhs
a111: Logged on 2015-04-12 19:18 mircea_popescu: does this not suggest that the ACTUAL REASON adults "had to" register their typewriters was because they wanted to have to ?
mircea_popescu: ah that. wasn't re ribbons, but re the actual letters.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 19:08 mircea_popescu: the captured male how to behave so it doesn't rub wrongly. Example suffices, he will perhaps protest but certainly learn and definitely change to fit the limit on his penis. It's not like he's not very eager to alter his behaviour so he can maintain that sweet, sweet delicious cage for longer, for as long as possible, forever. Whatever he may say, it's all window-dressing for that simple, fundamental fact -- he's happier neu
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 17:24 asciilifeform: my current impression is that d00d's duties were not originally connected to antibitcoin detail, but to keeping 'biohackers' and other DIY types well-surveilled by fbi , dhs
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 18:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform understand this bit of GT : the knowledge of all the things you don't know thereby constructs a sybil of you.
mircea_popescu: identity is such a little bitch. almost as much as money.
a111: Logged on 2015-11-16 21:01 ascii_field: BingoBoingo: 'I didn't know that,' I said. 'No one knows everything,' he said. 'Did you know,' he said, 'that until almost this very moment nothing would have delighted me more than to prove that you were a spy, to see you shot?' 'No,' I said. 'And do you know why I don't care now if you were a spy or not?' he said. 'You could tell me now that you were a spy, and we would go on talking calmly, just as we're talking now. I
a111: Logged on 2015-11-16 21:01 ascii_field: would let you wander off to wherever spies go when a war is over. You know why?' he said. 'No,' I said. 'Because you could never have served the enemy as well as you served us,' he said. 'I realized that almost all the ideas that I hold now, that make me unashamed of anything I may have felt or done as a Nazi, came not from Hitler, not from Goebbels, not from Himmler — but from you.' He took my hand. 'You alone kept m
mircea_popescu: allow me to offer you a traditional "you guise are fulla shit" alfie.
mircea_popescu: can have mylar weaved with the pores, for not so much money.
kanzure: throughput is most important aspect of the setup; air is not important.
kanzure: because they are biologists and don't understand technology
mircea_popescu: yep he is correct, in the negative sense. "they do not understand what are the REAL limits imposed on them, so they just go along social lines".
kanzure: need really really high throughput, i am 3 minutes away from proposing inkjet with 1 billion valves
mircea_popescu: ideally you get something denser than trad printer. if you manage 2-3k dpi (with a tractor!) then you can just prepare your receiver on an endless sheet of paper (process upstream) and just print and print and print. constantly. sort-of how the correct re-asphalt road crew works.
kanzure: ~12 includes cleaning reagents and stuff
mircea_popescu: kanzure the solution is above, over time. no cleaning. just roll the sheet .
kanzure: also need to do multi-pass over same spots btw, about 100 * (steps per base pair addition), where 100 is number of bp or nucleotides (nt)
mircea_popescu: think of a long sheet of substrate, with prepper and as many prinbter machines as passes needed downstream.
mircea_popescu: you could in principle do 1m/s which could be worth 10k or so per line at 10k or so lines per meter ie 100mn each second.
kanzure: ok. so 1 billion valves * n=100 printheads where n was used for total dna molecule length
mircea_popescu: kanzure do not scale the printing head ; scale the printed matter.
kanzure: for charged drum i would have to pretend to know material science things
mircea_popescu: and meanwhile in #eulora lulz : <kisspunch> i don't know what the shit any of this is <mircea_popescu> yeah, there's A LOT you don't know. <kisspunch> mircea_popescu: fuck you and your ecosystem
mircea_popescu: it's basically a sort of mini-mit, us equiv of "state assets corp of china", exact implementation of "putin has billions hidden away across the world" except for lizzards.
mircea_popescu: the funniest thing to me is that this sad state of affairs gives them no pause. "what orcs ? WE ARE THE ORCS!"
mircea_popescu: side beenfit of selecting for stupid. ftr, i know of no other nazism that actually put idiocy in the spec for aryanism.
mircea_popescu: "why that stupid and not me ? i'm fabulous ?" "yes, but you correctly evaluate yourself to be stupid ; and incorrectly evaluate what you don't understand about him to be similar-stupid, which it is not."
mircea_popescu: notice that britain sunk slowly while those "stupid" were in charge and utterly collapsed once o's own bretheren took over.
mircea_popescu: because blair was correct about himself. yes, he was stupid.
mircea_popescu: actually, boar wars nailed it imo. well, not imo : caragiale says so, i believe.
mircea_popescu: survived napoleon somehow, got wiped by a guy who literally believed earth is flat.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 17:48 asciilifeform: predicted effect : 0
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 22:38 mircea_popescu: teh very respectable southern poverty law center. and i bet you bitcoin to donuts they didn't actually pay jack for it, either.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 20:02 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-02#1710087 <-- so far so good. building icestorm tools, pnr, verilog synthesis works after adding clang and other assorted crap. will work out the arduino part later.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 20:04 phf: i'd say it's more like 80s lego and modern lego (if you haven't seen, now it's all >50% custom per-toy parts, that can be snapped to a traditional lego coupling, but otherwise non-universal)
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-09-02 19:34:56: <kisspunch> gcc 7.1.1 20170630 / ld 2.28.0.20170506 / FT-Jam 2.5.3
mircea_popescu: everything in empire of stupid must end up like mozilla, version 500+ ?
hanbot:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-14#1481878 << would a sort of bibliography/encyclopedia be useful in the lordship's opinion? have entries for figures that come up often; luby, naggum, etc. obviously these are googleablelier than the dictionary entries, but might benefit from the trilema, # or no #, treatment...?
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-14 01:33 mircea_popescu: ^ if anyone has suggestions...
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 22:49 mircea_popescu: they are up to gcc SEVEN ?!