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ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 06:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,

snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 10:15:42 mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,

mp_en_viaje: the second, which is the hanging matter, is that i meanwhile specced a new functioning of ratings and voicing, the to-spec execution of which being the very bedrock upon which deedbot payments even work. come april or whatever, i'm not about to do the old style lordship ratings,

asciilifeform suspects that mp_en_viaje is right re 'fixed %' tho. but to run w/ the analogy, the radon does stay in the ground until you dig to the bedrock, so will in effect vary

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 12:46:32 asciilifeform: the 'pc micro revolution' popularized an imho extremely braindamaged concept of what is 'comp lang'. specifically, where folx think that the front syntax is somehow logically glued to the internal mechanics ( whereas is merely happenstance, pc provides such broken bedrock abstractions that forces erry new lang author to write compiler 'from 0' as if year were 1959, but this is merely happenstance, rather than lo

asciilifeform: the 'pc micro revolution' popularized an imho extremely braindamaged concept of what is 'comp lang'. specifically, where folx think that the front syntax is somehow logically glued to the internal mechanics ( whereas is merely happenstance, pc provides such broken bedrock abstractions that forces erry new lang author to write compiler 'from 0' as if year were 1959, but this is merely happenstance, rather than logical inevitability )

mircea_popescu: it's a wonder nobody ever "figures out" the grand usgistani preoccupation with "youth" is entirely built out of a solid bedrock of "you will disapoint" certainty.

BingoBoingo: Anyways, if you are setting down something heavy for a while Uruguay's got great bedrock

phf: i suspect the sources in question are just dumps from iso, i.e. the high level stuff. i'm positive that he doesn't have the bits that you actually want (i.e. the bedrock code)

phf: mircea_popescu: i think nature of bootstrapping problem is that you have to choose a bedrock that you can affect, and that bedrock falls under counterparty problem. if your bedrock is hardware, then it's foundries that you trust. if your bedrock is a "a unix" then you need to trust a large binary blob. yes you can construct a rube goldberg that gives you unix from bedrock without having trust, but we don't have anything like that

ben_vulpes: you've even said that chip speed is trumped by coherent semantics to the bedrock.

trinque has a seething hatred of the mind that holds the hive as the bedrock of reality, can cause a strong reaction.

mircea_popescu: Framedragger that said, the whole field of "socpsy" is poppycock, entirely in the manner of "moscow psychology" - it exists to try and justify a, in mussolini's terms, "Against individualism, the Fascist conception is for the State;" ( http://trilema.com/2013/sex-in-the-news/#selection-105.0-105.64 ). they even admit their "bedrock" is this "fundamental attribution error". they don't however admit that the whole point of this

trinque: well mine's easily fixed; however, I'm putting it here show that this is the kind of moron busywork that comes of taking something like RSS as bedrock

phf: mircea_popescu: fwiw a lot of vlsi research in the 70s and 80s was about that, how do we make bedrock a lot less engineery, but that all died with microcomputer revolution(sic)

phf: fixed width natural numbers are implemented at bedrock, so in order to support anything else you have to create an abstraction, keep it consistent with the rest of language features, etc. so you either get overspecialized languages like apl (with their runtime costs) or monsters like haskell ☟︎

phf: i think it's entirely normal for tmsr operation to not have a bedrock, since we've just spent a year exploring just how rotten bedrock is. hosting, "personal affairs", linguistic and architectural choices, what have you.

phf: i was thinking that get-unix-time is a language feature, that's bedrock (i.e. being able to query wallclock), and can be used to build other abstractions on time, right now used for timing, but should be used as base for get-universal-time/decode-universal-time/get-decoded-time

mircea_popescu: there's nothing wrong with treating your baby as a chunk of bedrock, you know.

kakobrekla: actually without 'code generators' your computer is useless, its just a matter of how away from the bedrock your abstraction is

adlai doesn't want a CD because 4/5ths of his hardware doesn't know what CDs are... but this is back to bedrock issues

ascii_field: why should i let you set the ground rules ? i understand how transistor works, how vlsi is carried out; how to build cpu. why should i accept the idiocy soup as the bedrock abstraction ?

assbot: Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1SPCY7G )

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible'

Adlai: bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock

assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"

phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" ☟︎☟︎

decimation: what would it look like to have 'modular bedrock'? feed output of 'cut' circuit to 'sort' circuit?

decimation: unixphilosophy > "modular is better, can process any text stream" <> "modular is always worse than 'done at bedrock'"

asciilifeform: trinque: 'bedrock' for our purposes is that which if it malfunctions you physically throw it out.

trinque: what would network IO look like if done on a system with proper bedrock abstractions from your view?

assbot: Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHYPYN )

mircea_popescu: well, i'm out of my depth as you say, but it seems to me that importing the whole code into your own project and compiling it statically instead of creating shared libraries is the bedrock solution.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's a subtle kind of malevolence wherein needless complexity is all of a sudden necessary because of a subtle misunderstanding of the bedrock

decimation: ^ perhaps there is an awakening here, folks are realizing it make sense to 'live in the bedrock' rather than accept the shit-stack in userland without question

BingoBoingo: I actually think this whole fracking/pipeline thing is rather poetic. The United States is literally shattering the country's bedrock to become more like Nigeria.

decimation: http://pepijndevos.nl/2015/01/03/branch-free-fizzbuzz-in-assembly.html << ascii, mild amusement. when one wants to implement something (algorithm without branches) suddenly there is no resort except bedrock

BingoBoingo wonders what better bedrock abstraction asciilifeform might propose to replace meat

assbot: Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it.

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decimation: asciilifeform: but the situation is even worse in the us, why do the 'thinking folk' seem to accept it as some kind of bedrock of civilization?

BingoBoingo: punkman: But the bedrock underneath it with 2/7ths of the source material missing...

decimation: asciilifeform: well it is certainly true that 'brainfuck' is not a habitable bedrock

assbot: Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it.

benkay: i'm the asshole, you're the helpful. north is south and the argentine peso is the bedrock of civilization.

mircea_popescu: because the undersubs thought it expedient to cut an eighty mile tall hole in the bedrock supporting it